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[–]disevidentSupernatural Deus ex Machina Fan 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (18子コメント)

He's got a lot of nerve chiding us for our apparently inappropriate interest in the case, given that he was involved in the murder.

[–]FLAMINGCUMBOX -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Whoa, whoa, hold up a sec.

He was involved in burying Hae’s body. That’s according to what he testified to.

You’re willing to believe that. Do you believe that?? If so, then you are willing to believe some of what he says. So, what if some of the rest of what he says is true?

Can you (in any testimony from ANYONE) quote anybody saying that Jay murdered Hae!? wtf.

At the most. At the very fucking most. All the State has proved, and all that Jay has ever said was that he buried Hae. And that was even after he told Adnan that “no fucking way” was he going to help.

If you are going to say that he was involved in Hae’s murder, you should provide evidence to show how he helped murder Hae.

[–]powlette 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

He pleaded guilty to being an accomplice after the fact. I think it's fair to say "he was involved".

[–]FLAMINGCUMBOX -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

ELI5:

If my friend baked a cake, and I put a piece into my tummy, did I bake the cake?

[–]powlette 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, but it does make you "involved" with the cake.

[–]Quaziau 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If your friend bakes a cake, and you take it out of the oven, you helped bake a cake. Quit being an asshole.

[–]jhartshorn 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody here is saying that he murdered HML, only that he was involved with the murder. I feel bad for you that you can't grasp this.

[–]WrenBoy 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Burying the body counts as being involved in the murder.

[–]FLAMINGCUMBOX -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

TIL; If you dig someone’s grave, you are involved in their murder.

[–]Quaziau 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How are you just now learning that helping to bury a corpse constitutes being involved in a crime?

[–]WrenBoy 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you knowingly assist the murderer in their crime in any way you assist in the murder and are therefore involved.

Now you know.

[–]FLAMINGCUMBOX -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Citation please

[–]H3000 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accomplice

[–]FLAMINGCUMBOX -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you even read your Citation?

"An accomplice differs from an accessory in that an accomplice is present at the actual crime, and could be prosecuted even if the main criminal (the principal) is not charged or convicted. An accessory is generally not present at the actual crime, and may be subject to lesser penalties than an accomplice or principal."

[–]H3000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So he's an accessory and not an accomplice. The point was that he was involved in the crime. Your point is that he wasn't involved in the murder, which I'll admit we don't know to be true (as it is in Adnan's case). But you're nuts if you think that only helping bury the body makes him entirely uninvolved. This is the only thing he has admitted to as opposed to Adnan who has admitted to nothing.

[–]cheeseburger12345 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessory_(legal_term)

[–]autowikibot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Accessory (legal term):

An accessory is a person who assists in the commission of a crime, but who does not actually participate in the commission of the crime as a joint principal. The distinction between an accessory and a principal is a question of fact and degree:

  • The principal is the one whose acts or omissions, accompanied by the relevant mens rea (Latin for "guilty mind"), are the most immediate cause of the actus reus (Latin for "guilty act").

  • If two or more people are directly responsible for the actus reus, they can be charged as joint principals (see common purpose). The test to distinguish a joint principal from an accessory is whether the defendant independently contributed to causing the actus reus rather than merely giving generalised and/or limited help and encouragement.

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