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[–]iRiquee 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (39子コメント)
Bjergsen got raped.
[+]Chosler88 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 2 時間 前* (21子コメント)
Try a different descriptor. No reason to be insensitive.
EDIT: The term doesn't bother me at all personally, but it's well-known that it is in fact a point of contention in the gaming community. The way I see it, it doesn't cost you anything to respect something that is offensive to others, and I figure not using the word "rape" inaccurately is a small price to pay for respecting others. In a move that surprises no one, the adolescent LoL community disagrees.
[–]MBizness [非表示スコア] 41 分 前 (0子コメント)
Go be a SJW back to Tumblr.
[–]Heco 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
It's not being insensitive, maybe you're just sensitive or at least pretending to be.
[–]Chosler88 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前* (1子コメント)
Eh, I personally don't care. I just know that many women in gaming and friends of mine have problems with it. When there are plenty of ways to describe what happened, choosing the one you know is offensive to many people just seems unnecessary.
It doesn't cost you anything to respect something that is offensive to others, and I figure not using the word "rape" inaccurately is a small price to pay for respecting others. In a move that surprises no one, the adolescent LoL community disagrees.
[–]Yuriyvna [非表示スコア] 17 分 前 (0子コメント)
Don't you think the fact that you mentioned "women in gaming" on its own is insensitive? Men get raped too
[–]accdodson -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Does that word rape you?
[+]JakotsuKa スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 1 時間 前 (9子コメント)
I bet it does.
[–]Chosler88 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Keep it classy guys. Nothing better than the junior high response of repeating it, right? The term doesn't bother me at all, but I choose to avoid it because i know there are many it does bother. I choose to avoid terms I know offend some, you choose to repeat it to show just how tough you are.
Seriously, that is the response 12-year-olds have when someone speaks up. I hope you're proud.
[–]accdodson -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
This is the internet where no one knows you're offended and no one can make you feel guilty about it
[–]Chosler88 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
You're right. This is the Internet, and no one will make you behave like an adult. You are correct that you're free to instead behave as a junior high bully. It's a choice you get to make for yourself, and no one can make you feel guilty for the option you've chosen to take.
[–]accdodson -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Yup lol
[–]Chosler88 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Maybe I'm naive, but I choose to believe the community is capable of better than this. Have a nice day, dude.
[+]JakotsuKa スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I don't really care if anyone is bothered by it :)
[–]Yuriyvna [非表示スコア] 13 分 前 (0子コメント)
Hm, didn't expect much from this community. Even if it's ridiculous to accuse someone of being insensitive based on using a word in a completely different context, it's still pretty awful to try to use it over and over again to mock him. I'm sure you guys are just kids and haven't grown up a whole lot yet, but someday (or so I hope), you'll realize that you don't always have to have intent to cause harm. Just think about if you had a family member that was abused like that. If you still feel like you don't care then, i'm sorry, i guess.
[+]Baldoora スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Good, lets rape his innocence then
[–]grover8me -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
The world you're looking for is "verb"
[–]PM_ME_A_SEXY_POSE 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The word you're looking for is word
[–]Zarokima [非表示スコア] 54 分 前 (0子コメント)
Do certain words just rape your poor fee-fees? Go cry about it on Tumblr.
[–]JSDS999 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The truth isn't always pleasant, sorry.
[–]Khrolek[Leona Best Waifu] (OCE) -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm sure he didnt mean to rape your feelings.
[+]Marsdreamer スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 1 時間 前* (16子コメント)
There are plenty of other words that you can use to describe the match-up between Bjergsen and Power of Evil. Rape isn't a word we should casually use to describe things.
Edit: A really great video about the usage of the word in gaming culture. I highly encourage people with a few minutes to give it a watch (You don't have to watch all of it to get his main points). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-2UeibQllU
[–]aerosmithfan 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Tips Fedora
[–]wordscannotdescribe [非表示スコア] 47 分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, pick something like "murdered," "killed," "slayed," or "abused"
[–]KS_Gaming -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Why not? Everyone understands what it means in this context and words exist to transfer information right?
[–]Marsdreamer [非表示スコア] 36 分 前* (0子コメント)
Two reasons:
It devalues the word. Rape is one of the worst things a human can do to another human being. By using it trivially and in a different way, you devalue the usage of the word.
You don't know what a person has had happen to them in their life. Specifically in gaming culture we use this word interchangeably with a multitude of other words that could (instead) be used. Using that word cavalierly can bring up unwanted memories from people who have been actually been raped. I would (personally) prefer not force up stressful experiences on individuals who have had a traumatic past.
You may of course use the word, it is perfectly within your rights as an individual -- But it also doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Additionally things like this give gamers a bad persona. http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/24/7274655/starcraft-2-player-kicked-from-tournament-threat
Edit: This is a really good video about the usage of the word in gaming culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-2UeibQllU
[–]CozenOne [非表示スコア] 51 分 前 (4子コメント)
What a strange justification for being insensitive
[–]xxmindtrickxx [非表示スコア] 46 分 前 (2子コメント)
Shut up you white knight this is the internet, if you can't handle a simple you got raped comment then don't get on the internet.
[–]CozenOne [非表示スコア] 36 分 前 (1子コメント)
It doesn't bother me, it's just going out of your way to make this an unwelcoming environment for others and just continues a cycle of immaturity. I'm not sure what I was expecting from a bunch of teenagers though lol
[–]Yuriyvna [非表示スコア] 11 分 前 (0子コメント)
Agreed, it's not the fact that it was used "insensitively" or that it was used to describe a situation, however accurate or not, but it's the cycle of youngsters that think it's just whatever because they're so badass and don't give a fuck because it's the internet who are sitting behind their computer making an "xD" face, but it really is an awful outlook to have on serious matters in life. I dunno, just think it's pretty sad
[–]Amorne3 [非表示スコア] 45 分 前 (0子コメント)
its the goddamn internet. I don't need a justification to be insensitive.
[–]ggigggity [非表示スコア] 21 分 前* (1子コメント)
I seriously believe the demographic of /r/leagueoflegends to be 10 or so years of age under that of the average redditor. Let me explain why rape as a metaphor is a terrible descriptor for anyone who is defending it, and show why it is essentially not used out of the gaming community (i.e. a predominately male one).
Try telling an adult that they're "fucked" or that you want to "kill" them. While the first statement contains a profanity and the second a heinous wish upon them, we can probably brush off these statements relatively easily. That is because there is no controversy whatever surrounding the actual meaning of "fucked" or "kill". It becomes a easy matter then to distinguish between someone throwing the term around figuratively or literally; i.e. distinguish between a joking and serious usage.
I dare you now to say I "raped" XXX to an adult. Whether you use it figuratively (as what happens 99% of the time in the gaming community) or literally, you are always going to unsettle everyone around you and will probably receive some sort of rebuttal. Why is this? It is because rape is controversial in that not everyone will understand it as concretely as saying someone is "fucked" or that you want to "kill" someone. An example is the typical series of comments you will see in /r/adviceanimals regarding rape that will generally invoke the following arguments in one way or another: "Women should not wear sexy clothing/put themselves at risk going to a dangerous location because it invites rapists" or "women who claim false rape should be punished as much as the man who served a sentence". These are completely misconstrued perceptions of rape as statistically, the incidents resulting from the case cited by the redditors is probably under 20% of all actual rape cases. More than 80 percent of victims will know their attacker. For the second argument which is more of an opinion, the premise is morally and legally compelling but it completely distracts from the suffering of actual victims. The woman who cries rape is such a statistically anomaly from the population of actual victims and it really pressures the victims into silence, evinced by the number of unreported cases. I'm not going to touch on rape that occurs outside of America and for that matter other 1st world countries because it only gets worse.
tl;dr It's relatively better to say that "I fucked ur mum" or "I'm going to rip your fucking head off" than to say "X raped Z" because you know either the guy is facetious(joking) or serious in the first case but in the second case, you have no idea if the guy is facetious with the correct understanding of rape, facetious with the wrong understanding of rape, and being serious because so many people don't understand what rape is; otherwise it wouldn't be happening so much.
Edit: another example
[–]Scholles [非表示スコア] 5 分 前 (0子コメント)
The average redditor is probably 18-20, so I doubt this subreddit is 10 years younger on average.
[+]Zarokima スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Go back to SRS.
[–]Gryffes [非表示スコア] 52 分 前 (0子コメント)
Muh trigguhs.
[–]xxmindtrickxx [非表示スコア] 47 分 前 (0子コメント)
Assrape
[+]nolledge スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You poor fella.
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