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[–]mak484 145 ポイント146 ポイント  (88子コメント)

The body is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised!

And before anyone comments, yes I know she used to be a woman. If she looks like a woman, has the parts of a woman, and acts like a woman, then she's a woman. Who gives a shit?

[–]WhatWouldJoseCuervoD 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (20子コメント)

I know right. If she used to have a penis chances are she still remembers what the penis likes

[–]Zeolance 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Wow... never thought of it like that. Interesting...

[–]broncosandwrestling 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (9子コメント)

though, really, the penis isn't very mysterious.

[–]datusb 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Just bite down on it and grind back and forth with your teeth girls.

[–]IamTonyStewartAMA 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This kills the penis.

[–]WitBeer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But then two grow in it's place.

[–]ColdxCrush 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just reading this made my penis hurt & retreat.

[–]capn_ed 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Welcome to Reddit, writer for Cosmopolitan magazine.

[–]datusb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's a tip, if he's screaming and there is blood in your mouth, you're doing it right.

[–]ooburai 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Listen to this guy, he's clearly a wang scientist.

[–]p3n1x 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody can fuck you like yourself.

[–]Mr_Facepalm 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What if the penis likes vagina?

[–]Road_Whorior 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Assuming she's post-op, she has one. What's the issue?

[–]Mr_Facepalm 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

According to the documentary 22 Jump Street, an inverted penis may not work so well.

[–]Road_Whorior 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They require a little extra care, but other than that, they function as sex organs just fine.

[–]SamAllmon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

According to all of my transfriends, it works plenty fine.

[–]ColdxCrush 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That she used to have a dick where you're putting yours?

[–]Road_Whorior 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no problem with this. But to each their own.

[–]Mick_Slim 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It'd be a few inches lower and more near the taint/gooch/whateverwordyouprefer area. Actually considering her size it would be a good 8-10 inches down and under.

[–]MEuRaH 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whoa... you just changed my whole life with this thought.....

[–]Greyhound272 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (5子コメント)

So, She used to be a Woman and shes a woman now, so nothing has changed!.

[–]-Beren- 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

She used to be a woman. She still is, but she used to be too.

[–]nhjuyt 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

First there is a woman then there is no woman then there is.

[–]BaconIsMyMiddleName 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This made me laugh. Then it made me sad.

[–]-Beren- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]Heavenfall 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't get it. She remembers what it was like being one!

[–]josht54 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That might be good with you and it may not be so good with other people. It's personal preference if you like a person who has had a sex change.

[–]Trolltaku -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (16子コメント)

> If she looks like a woman, has the parts of a woman, and acts like a woman, then she's a woman.

Legally, she is. Legally. But biologically, she's still technically a man. I like to use Bicentennial Man as an example. Legally Andrew became a "man", but he was never and could never truly be human biologically. This man will never truly be a woman, as far as nature is concerned, but great advances in medical science can allow him to become as close as possible to be almost indistinguishable. However, he's still a man, technically. But legally, we allow these people to "change" their gender. I fully support this right that they have and am happy that it can make them happy. But I also don't see any issues with people who don't want to recognize their "transformation". Both sides are right, in their own way, depending on how they look at it. As long as no hate is being spread, people should be able to view it either way.

I'll always see such people as the gender sex they were born with, that's my choice. But I'll never bother them about it nor ridicule them for it.

[–]mak484 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My views on this subject have changed a lot over the past few years. There's a big difference between sex and gender- sex is what you are biologically and gender is what you feel you are. A sex-change procedure affects one aspect of your sex, if only superficially, but it allows your outward sexual appearance to match your gender.

I choose to look at people for their gender, not their sex. You can't control your sex, but you can alter it to be in line with your gender. If someone was born feeling like a female but with the body of a male, I consider them a woman. It doesn't affect me at all one way or the other, and those subtle changes in perception are what lead to mass cultural acceptance over time.

Obviously you said you'd never tell anyone to their face they're wrong, and that's good. You're entitled to your own opinion as is everyone. I just wanted to clarify mine, because frankly the number of people who responded to my post with some variation of "ew that's still a man" makes me kind of sad.

[–]Trolltaku 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a big difference between sex and gender- sex is what you are biologically and gender is what you feel you are.

I know this, but since I'm not writing a paper and am just posting on Reddit, I'll admit that I don't bother to worry about being correct all the time in which words I choose.

I choose to look at people for their gender, not their sex. You can't control your sex, but you can alter it to be in line with your gender. If someone was born feeling like a female but with the body of a male, I consider them a woman. It doesn't affect me at all one way or the other, and those subtle changes in perception are what lead to mass cultural acceptance over time.

That's totally fine. I choose to look at people for their sex, not their gender, but I'm not a dick about it. I'd never be prejudiced towards someone for their choices, I'd never even bring it up. I doubt realistically my choice would have any affect on their life at all, and I'd work to make sure that's the case. I might even pretend that I see them for their gender as opposed to their sex, but I never really would. I'm just being honest. If I know someone used to be a man, I'll never, internally, consider them to be a woman. Some of us say that we would, but I don't think they're being honest with themselves. They'll never "forget" that person used to be a man. They'll just treat them like one because they know it's how they want to be treated. I'd do the same. The only difference is that I wouldn't pretend that to my core, that I'd fully recognize them as a woman. I just choose not to lie to myself.

Obviously you said you'd never tell anyone to their face they're wrong, and that's good. You're entitled to your own opinion as is everyone. I just wanted to clarify mine, because frankly the number of people who responded to my post with some variation of "ew that's still a man" makes me kind of sad.

Your opinion is totally fine, and thanks for respecting mine. I don't think those people would be very nice to say "Ew" to that person, but here, I don't see a problem with it. In a sense it's like they are venting what they couldn't otherwise say directly to the person. It's much better if they get it out here.

[–]Jackal_6 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'll always see such people as the gender they were born with, that's my choice.

No, you'll always see them as the gender you perceive.

[–]Trolltaku 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If I can't tell what they are, I'll perceive them as I think they are, of course. Then if I find out different, it'll be a different story.

[–]Jackal_6 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. That would change your perception of them.

[–]Trolltaku 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. I would start perceiving them as the opposite sex...

[–]iamnotaseahorse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

No but you're disrespecting their wishes by refusing to see them as the gender they see themselves or wish others to see them as. Gender isn't about biology, you can stick to your way of seeing things and not take into account the feelings of the people it really affects. You're perfectly entitled to do that. You're not wrong, you're just an arsehole.

[–]Trolltaku 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

No but you're disrespecting their wishes by refusing to see them as the gender they see themselves or wish others to see them as.

That's no different than wanting everyone to perceive my own identity as being an awesome person, just because it's how I want them to see me.

Gender isn't about biology, you can stick to your way of seeing things and not take into account the feelings of the people it really affects.

You say it isn't about biology and reference feelings. No, it's about biology on one hand, and legal recognition on the other.

You're perfectly entitled to do that. You're not wrong, you're just an arsehole.

I don't believe I'm being an asshole because as I said, I'd never bother them about it or try to make them feel bad about their choices. I'd actually just avoid addressing their situation altogether and would probably just rather have a beer with them and shoot the shit about something else entirely.

[–]iamnotaseahorse -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's is massively different to you wanting people to see you as an awesome person, get your head out of your arse. How can you even remotely liken that to attempting to tell the world you are not the gender they see you as.

You might think your happy go lucky attitude is more respectful than acknowledging the situation. In a social setting that may be the case. When it comes down to it though you refuse to see them how they see themselves and have given it as much thought as to liken it to how some people don't see you as awesome.

You're being an arsehole because you think pedantry about biology is more important than someone else's feelings. No one gives a fuck about your feelings about it, you're not affected.

You think you're being respectful by saying you wouldn't give them a hard time, so what? Who the fuck are you to give people a hard time about their life choices? You still dint mind having a poorly thought out shallow opinion and spreading that opinion on the internet. That's not respect.

[–]charrington173 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Calm down dude. He isn't being shallow. He just thinks gender is about biology and science, instead of what you identify with. That's what you disagree about, you don't have to be a dick about it.

[–]iamnotaseahorse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No. I'm not getting stuck on the definition of a word, but if we wanted to then please look up gender. I'm stuck on the fact that he thinks that it's fine for him to make a judgement about issues that don't affect him without properly thinking about the subject. That is shallow, there is no depth of thought, his shallow thinking has lead him to a conclusion that makes him an arsehole.

I'm not being a dick, I'm unequivocally pointing out that someone needs to think more deeply about things before spouting off opinions. I realive that doesn't sit well with people who like to spout opinions because it is their right but tough shit.

[–]WaveRunner23 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, QUIT SAYING ARSEHOLE, it makes you seem like an asshole.

[–]iamnotaseahorse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a good word and you spelled arsehole wrong.

[–]CanadianWizardess 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But biologically, she's still technically a man.

I don't know...if someone has breasts, a vagina, female fat distribution, little to no body hair, estrogen in their bloodstream, that seems pretty biologically female to me.

This man will never truly be a woman

She's a woman, and was before she started her transition. Because the terms "man" and "woman" relate to gender, not to biological sex, and you've already said you recognize the difference between the two.

Would it change your mind if you learned that trans people have brains structured closer to the gender they identify as, than to the sex they were born as? For someone who appreciates science (I'm assuming you do?), you might find the science behind why being trans exists to be pretty interesting. The theory is that it relates to hormone fluctuations in utero that affect the developing fetus. I can post links if you're interested.

[–]dntfkm 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she's still technically a man

lol, so you're the arbiter of who is and isn't a man?

[–]mattymogue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

*spirit

[–]caelum19 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ducktyped women?

[–]SandmanAlcatraz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Right? I've had sex with women who used to be children, and that doesn't make me a pedophile. Why should having sex with a woman who used to be a man make me gay?

[–]whiskeydevil -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If she looks like a woman, has the parts of a woman, and acts like a woman, then she's a woman. Who gives a shit?

She doesn't look like a woman. She looks like a dude.

She doesn't have the parts of a woman. She has male parts that have been altered to look like those of a woman. If you're saying that a post-op pussy is as good as the real thing, you are very wrong.

Your comments totally ignore the fact that most heterosexual men are just not into male features and despite how hard she's trying to be a woman, to any hetero man, she may as well be another man in a costume.

And every time she steps into a room expecting to be treated as a member of her chosen gender, she's asking people to suspend their disbelief at her physical traits and play along with her lifestyle choice. That's well and good for everyday life, but when it comes to sex, there is no substitute for the genuine article.

[–]CanadianWizardess 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lifestyle choice? Being transgender is not what you think being transgender is.

[–]whiskeydevil 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not describing transgenderism.

I'm saying that there is no 1:1 comparison when it comes to women v. mtf transwomen when it comes to sexual attraction. One does not have to see them as equal when equating whether or not they want to screw them.

[–]tehjaymez -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Still has a Y chromosome. I just don't want to date a woman who used to biologically be a male. The idea is gross.

[–]CanadianWizardess 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think there's anything wrong with having that preference, as long as you're polite about it to the trans person. But...technically you don't know with 100% certainty what anyone's chromosomes are. It's possible to be born with a vagina and XY chromosomes, for example. You don't ask someone what their chromosomes are before you have sex...

[–]ColdxCrush -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't believe the men that will find out about this transition after the deed is done will agree with you.

[–]CanadianWizardess 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a sitcom trope. The vast, VAST majority of trans people tell a potential partner they are trans early on. Definitely before sex.