Based parents disown mentally ill transgender child; whining to other mentally ill rainbow members commences (NP link) (np.reddit.com)

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56 comments submitted at 18:53:55 on Dec 5, 2014 by hastywilliam

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -5 Points
  • 19:00:03, 5 December

Jesus Christ, dude. This person just lost their family. Even if you don't like trans people (and having been here before, I'm going to guess that you don't), can you maybe just not be shitty to someone grieving? Whether you're trolling or not, that's really inhuman levels of shittiness.

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  • Gay_Terrorist
  • 6 Points
  • 19:37:24, 5 December

> that's really inhuman levels of shittiness.

Trannies are literal subhumans. Gas yourself please.

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  • Hazarmaveth
  • 7 Points
  • 20:22:28, 5 December

I actually replied to this guy, and told him to wait a few years before making this decision.

It's not that I "don't like trans people", it's that I know that the whole concept of "transgendered" is complete nonsense. So basically, this family is being torn apart by a lie. Yes, the families' response is harsh, but cutting your dick off and pretending to be a woman is pretty harsh too. I told the tranny OP to compromise, and just wait it out a few years and see how he feels. Surely this would be better than mutilating himself, pretending to be a woman, and losing his family.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -3 Points
  • 20:42:24, 5 December

> I told the tranny OP to compromise, and just wait it out a few years and see how he feels. Surely this would be better than mutilating himself, pretending to be a woman, and losing his family.

Not according to study on the subject. A pretty wide variety of studies show that transitioning is beneficial. Waiting doesn't seem to change minds either - here is a recent study on 55 teens who did delay their transition; every single one ultimately did transition.

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  • BustaHymes
  • 6 Points
  • 22:47:35, 5 December

It's sad that the best medical science has to offer these deranged people is to mutilate their body to approximate the sex they are in their delusions. Maybe some individuals benefit from sex-change surgery, but my problem with it is it isn't addressing the root cause of their problem which is a defective mind.

The political influence of sexual deviants has gotten so large that people are called bigots if they even suggest transgenders shouldn't be encouraged to indulge their psychiatric problem rather than treating it.

As far as I know, there's no effort being made to develop a cure or prevention of the transgenders' mental disorder, only to make them feel better.

I don't hate transgenders, I feel very sorry for them, like homeless people. I don't want to play along with the delusions, but that isn't bigotry, just honesty. They're insane and the people calling themselves "allies" are really just using transgenders to show everyone how progressive they are by "tolerating" their problem rather than working to fix it. I believe that if you came up with a method of rewiring transgenders to be happy with their own body, you'd be considered an enemy by that crowd.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -1 Points
  • 23:17:57, 5 December

> It's sad that the best medical science has to offer these deranged people is to mutilate their body to approximate the sex they are in their delusions.

Whatever we are, it isn't delusional. Trans people are perfectly aware of what body they have, it just isn't the body that we want.

> Maybe some individuals benefit from sex-change surgery

The vast majority, and surgery is actually the least well-supported portion of transition. Hormone treatments have ridiculously positive effects.

> but my problem with it is it isn't addressing the root cause of their problem which is a defective mind.

The point I'm attempting to make is that it has nothing whatsoever to do with a "defective mind".

> The political influence of sexual deviants

Transgenderism is not about sexuality.

> has gotten so large that people are called bigots if they even suggest transgenders shouldn't be encouraged to indulge their psychiatric problem rather than treating it.

Transition is the treatment: both the only successful treatment known and a highly effective one.

> As far as I know, there's no effort being made to develop a cure or prevention of the transgenders' mental disorder, only to make them feel better.

Transgenderism isn't classified as a mental disorder anymore, at least not by the APA. But it was for a long time, and many dozens of attempts were made to "cure" us of it, same as there were made to "cure" gay folks of their sexuality. They didn't work, and usually made things worse, so there was no ethical reason to continue them.

> I don't want to play along with the delusions

Again: not delusions.

> They're insane

No, we aren't.

> and the people calling themselves "allies" are really just using transgenders to show everyone how progressive they are by "tolerating" their problem rather than working to fix it.

The allies I know have met some of us and have seen the difference that acceptance and being able to transition have made in our lives. My 75-year-old grandma, who quite literally lived in her highly conservative church for years, took all of three hours to change her mind about the subject upon seeing what it meant to me. "Progressive" is not a word which applies to her by any stretch of the imagination.

> I believe that if you came up with a method of rewiring transgenders to be happy with their own body, you'd be considered an enemy by that crowd.

Some, perhaps. I wouldn't necessarily agree - whether we'd take such a treatment if it existed (and I stress that it does not, nor is it likely to anytime soon) is a frequent topic of discussion in trans circles.


Seriously, I think you're making a lot of judgments without any knowledge of how things actually go. I'd invite you to read my personal story and this wall of text on the science supporting us.

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  • SchwarzeSonne_
  • 2 Points
  • 02:16:54, 6 December

Well I want to be an animal and will do anything to make it be so.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • 0 Points
  • 03:23:19, 6 December

That does not have the same scientific support.

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  • Gay_Terrorist
  • 1 Points
  • 05:28:44, 6 December

You do not have two x chromosomes and you never will. Therefore, you are not female and you never will be regardless of what surgeries you have, what new age rituals you perform, or how much you shill on reddit. Your feelings can never override the natural realities of biology.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • 1 Points
  • 06:03:03, 6 December

> You do not have two x chromosomes and you never will.

And I don't deny that fact. But XX/XY is not the only determiner of sex.

> Therefore, you are not female

See above.

In body shape, medical status, appearance, identity, legal name, legal sex, lifestyle, and hormone levels, I am female. The only two aspects of female-ness I currently lack are a reproductive system and a second X chromosome, both of which are lacked by some non-trans women.

But in all honesty, I don't really expect to convince you of that. I'd settle for the acceptance that transition really is wonderfully good for us, even if it seems icky to you.

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  • Gay_Terrorist
  • 1 Points
  • 06:23:42, 6 December

> An extremely rare disorder causes some people to not develop their genitals properly. Therefore, I am a woman if I say so.

Nice argument. Some negros have skin disorders that make them look very lightly colored. Therefore, I can be a negro if I say so even though I was born white.

You're not a female, you are a male. I am not a negro, I am white.

> I'd settle for the acceptance that transition really is wonderfully good for us, even if it seems icky to you.

Do not ask us to pay for your eunuch surgeries/hormones.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • 2 Points
  • 06:42:43, 6 December

> Nice argument. Some negros have skin disorders that make them look very lightly colored. Therefore, I can be a negro if I say so even though I was born white.

The irony, of course, is that this is an excellent example of a continuum that culturally gets put into two (sometimes three, if you count mixed-race) boxes. Your average white guy in the US has some black ancestry and vice-versa; there's been plenty of racial mixing. But that's too complicated to deal with, so people pretend it's a simple binary when it isn't.

> Do not ask us to pay for your eunuch surgeries/hormones.

I don't, and I never will except as I may for other extremely beneficial procedures. I'm torn on socialized medicine.

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  • Gay_Terrorist
  • 1 Points
  • 07:06:12, 6 December

> Your average white guy in the US has some black ancestry and vice-versa; there's been plenty of racial mixing.

The average white in America certainly does not have a shred of negro mix, although it is true that there is a notable amount of white admixture to be found in the negro population. Either way, a mixed person would be called a mixed person. A half black is a mulatto, not a full on dindu or a white.

In the case of gender, the situation is entirely different: you are a male or you are a female. You are a male.

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  • hastywilliam
  • 7 Points
  • 19:08:46, 5 December

Go to hell you self-mutilating fuck.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -4 Points
  • 19:30:48, 5 December

Doesn't exist, and I haven't and don't intend to self-mutilate in any way.

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  • GQuestioningThrowAwy
  • -6 Points
  • 22:19:07, 5 December

If she self mutilated herself, she would've been cutting herself, burning herself, basically self-harming herself. That's self-mutilation, transitioning isn't.

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  • hastywilliam
  • 8 Points
  • 22:23:04, 5 December

Tell that to his penis, if you find it in the landfill, you stupid sick fuck.

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  • GQuestioningThrowAwy
  • -4 Points
  • 22:34:23, 5 December

Her penis* and that's not how it works, SRS(Sex reassignment surgery) isn't the cutting off of the genitals(mtf), it's penile inversion(one technique, there's another one I believe, just can't name it off the top of my head). I see no reason for you to call me a stupid sick fuck btw, I've done no wrong.

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  • NIGGER_DISPOSAL_2
  • 9 Points
  • 00:00:52, 6 December

> Her penis

being this delusional

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  • GQuestioningThrowAwy
  • -4 Points
  • 00:28:04, 6 December

How is this delusional?

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  • SchwarzeSonne_
  • 7 Points
  • 00:34:54, 6 December

Women don't have penises. It is quite simple.

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  • GQuestioningThrowAwy
  • -4 Points
  • 01:30:10, 6 December

Well I do, and I'm a girl.

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  • definitely_hetero
  • 4 Points
  • 02:02:48, 6 December

I have a penis as well, but I identify as a carrot. Hi-five!

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  • SchwarzeSonne_
  • 7 Points
  • 02:07:01, 6 December

But thats wrong, dipshit.

addendum: tits or GTFO

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  • s_h_i_t_l_o_r_d
  • 5 Points
  • 19:18:03, 5 December

>This person just lost their family.

Technically speaking this was a defoo by faggotry.

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  • SchwarzeSonne_
  • 7 Points
  • 20:44:05, 5 December

A family just lost their son.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -10 Points
  • 21:12:04, 5 December

A family never had a son, and rejected their daughter.

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  • Janky__Fox
  • 10 Points
  • 21:32:40, 5 December

Dat mental gymnastics

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  • jbdontbeanass
  • 14 Points
  • 19:29:27, 5 December

Um excuse me this is a Safe Spaceā„¢ for those of us lacking cultural enrichment from hordes of tranny niggerjews. Czech thy privilege before posting this insensitive "muh feels" crap

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -7 Points
  • 19:41:18, 5 December

Not according to your sidebar. "Free speech", it proudly proclaims.

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  • jbdontbeanass
  • 9 Points
  • 20:51:41, 5 December

I'll respect your right to free speech when you respect my right to look with disdain on hormone-guzzling jewfaggots.

Serves me right for arguing with a pedophile.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • -4 Points
  • 20:58:08, 5 December

> I'll respect your right to free speech when you respect my right to look with disdain on hormone-guzzling jewfaggots.

I do. You have every right to be an absolutely monstrous person. I've voted against hate-speech legislation every time I've been eligible to do so, and I will continue to do so in the future.

I have to admit, "jewfaggot" is a new one. Ironically, I'm pretty sure religious folks - Jews included - are probably more with you on this subject than with me.

> Serves me right for arguing with a pedophile.

I love how every post here just has to slur at the end, lest you be seen interacting like a vaguely reasonable human being. God forbid, right?

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  • Albino_Jackets
  • 10 Points
  • 23:39:02, 5 December

\>implying kikes actually practice judaism

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  • SchwarzeSonne_
  • 11 Points
  • 20:39:58, 5 December

You can say it, but we'll call you a faggot.

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  • DrWoodcock
  • 9 Points
  • 19:36:58, 5 December

We need to contact the Anti Defecation League and insist that they pen a stern memo to Chelofthe_sea. Maybe suggest that the Anti Defecation League pen a stern email to the Administrators of Reddit, demanding to have this gentlemans Karma points reduced by half.

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  • GQuestioningThrowAwy
  • 1 Points
  • 22:24:10, 5 December

Gentlewoman's*

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  • SchwarzeSonne_
  • 9 Points
  • 00:35:22, 6 December

Ultrafaggot's*

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  • GQuestioningThrowAwy
  • -4 Points
  • 01:20:02, 6 December

How is she an "ultrafaggot"

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  • BigOlCob
  • 8 Points
  • 20:25:10, 5 December

Fuck off to SRS.

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  • Chel_of_the_sea
  • 1 Points
  • 20:28:59, 5 December

Asking people not to celebrate someone losing their family is hardly an SRS position. I'm actually banned from SRS.