A very important announcement. (RE: Moderation + /r/Neopets Super Secret Santa + Card Exchange)

monkeyscannotbiteme · 22 時間前

My heart is absolutely broken. Drama is one thing, escalated drama and name calling is another, but sending death threats is completely unacceptable. No one deserves harassment like that, especially from what's supposed to be an open and warm community. I am shocked that something escalated to this point. Cyberbullying is not a fucking joke, people!

/u/industria is an extremely hard worker on this sub and has done a great job moderating in these recent months. I truly hope she returns SO SOON and everyone who was hurt today can heal and move on.

I hope the petty person who did this is satisfied with their childish actions. This was absolutely unnecessary and it makes me sad that someone's life is so boring or unhappy or something that they feel the need to act that way.

Sending love and hugs to our sub tonight, and maybe a few bandaids too. Or gauze. Or really, a defibrillator, at this point.

skyblue_sky · 22 時間前

Man, that is fucked up. Her modhood started pretty rough (not her fault at all), and I'd never say I was a huge fan, but she made a huge effort to improve her attitude toward other users, and overall she's done a lot of good for the sub. It sucks that people were so awful to her, and I'm sorry she felt the need to leave.

oOvVnOo · 22 時間前

What in the fuck. That is just ridiculous and disappointing to hear.

whippogirl16 · 23 時間前

this speaks on a personal level... i too have been harrassed and stalked all over reddit, and every post i ever make is commented with hateful things..... i feel sad that her story didnt end well on here.... i hope all of this just blows over and people can learn some common human decency

MageKessu · 22 時間前

For fucks sake, it's the holiday season. Can't we treat each other like adults for one month out of the year? We should be spaming each other with gifts or raiding the Advent Calender or insulting Jubjubs (or whatever pet you hate the most)... Really anything besides attacking each other. Even the tiny forum I help moderate has it's shit together, and the game it's a part of has been dead for years.

amksh29 · 22 時間前

This breaks my heart. Poor /u/industria. No one deserves that. My heart goes out to her. I wish people would so being so sucky.

On a side note, I have no idea what SRD is but Strat should be ashamed of himself for acting like a douche. I'm glad dice banned him from the sub. He's a toxic jerk. The people of this community are wonderful and he doesn't deserve to be part of it.

I hope with time the community can heal from this and move forward.

wooitypreptime · 21 時間前

Man, so much happened today. I'm sorry for what happened to /u/industria; I didn't always agree with her tone, but it was clear that she had the subreddit's best interests in heart and that she spent a LOT of time trying to make sure that things were running smoothly.

I learned what SRD stood for today. It's not a pleasant place. I hope we don't end up there again for a very long time, if ever.

I know it's not nice to speak poorly of people who can't defend themselves and all that, but I think a lot of the drama will hopefully go away with the banning of Strat (thanks /u/diceroll123). I have no idea what went down on the skype chats but it felt like every massive dramafest we've had over the past two years was because Strat decided to pull some immature shit and leave the rest of the mods scrambling to deal with it. To be honest, I'm glad he's gone.

Thanks /u/climeski for keeping us on top of everything.

LucianoGianni · 20 時間前

Wh-what?

I just came back from the store to this?

I'm...incredibly angry and upset right now--like, I'm actually starting to cry. I haven't been here very long, sure, but I feel really attached to a lot of you, and /u/industria is one of the people I've really been looking up to. Like, it sounds really dorky probably, but I thought she was really cool and friendly and helpful and just...I dunno. Even if she DID do something I wasn't aware of, there's no fucking way she deserved that. Very, very few people do, but I won't get into politics here.

People can be fucking pigs. I'm...ugh. I need a drink.

Mrs_Patrick_Sharp · 22 時間前

I'm so saddened by the outcome of this. No one deserves to have their life threatened over something they said in defense of others or just something they said in general. /u/industria did not deserve and will never deserve to have been harassed, bullied, threatened, or other wise publicly ridiculed and harassed.

For anyone, even those not part of our normally loving and caring sub to bully anyone is not okay. We may not agree with everything the mods have to say. Hell we may not agree with things others say but that does not mean we need to tell them they need to die or that they need to fuck off or anything like that.

We were brought together by the love of neopets. We were not brought together by threatening, harassing, shaming, name calling, arguing, bullying, or hate. I hope that we can all learn from this and better handle the situation if this, or anything similar arises again.

We are a great sub. We can learn from this. Just show love to one another.

Edit: /u/ghosty_kitty is gone too?? :(

whitneyface · 22 時間前

I disagreed with industria on some stuff in the last thread. I got a fair number of upvotes there when I did so. I just want to say that anyone who did this should know with no uncertainty that this isn't cool. We're not on the same team, you're not scoring one for the "good guys," and you're being a piece of shit for making some feel unsafe. Argue. Loudly. Don't threaten people, whether you plan to fulfill it or just fire off a shitty PM that'll give the person a bad day. You don't know how someone will read it, and you can't say that when you threaten someone with death or injury that they should have known better than to take you seriously. It's unacceptable.

Have we officially made not crossposting to meta subreddits against the rules? I really don't think we should do it in a way that's retroactive, but I think inviting other people to view our worst moments is begging for trolls, shitty outside commentary, and weird spillover drama. It's not perfect, people can create dummy accounts, but I think it might stop or slow some of this and send a message.

I don't know if I wish I'd known industria was being threatened and sent shitty messages or not. Probably would have been a little nicer. Context matters, and I wouldn't have knowingly made a shitty situation for her worse. I didn't agree with her in all things but of course I didn't want her gone. I feel that way about a lot of people here. Wish more people could just disagree with others and not send fucking hatemail to others. Throwaway attack accounts and anonymous, hidden messages are shit. I want to believe they all came from our being crossposted and not from this community.

I'm sorry this happened. It shouldn't have.

birdboy2000 · 22 時間前

the fuck is wrong with people? Dunno if it's a poster here annoyed by some decision or another or SRD playing crusader, missed the drama, but geez there are some real assholes in the world.

halilyankee · 21 時間前

Can someone tell me why did people attacked her in the first place? what did she do?

climeski · 23 時間前

A few points I should put into place here as well. My mind is swarming with feelings, thoughts...

Talking to the community is not what makes a moderator. A moderator works behind the scenes primarily, but dealing with the community is also a large component. We also take most of the blame and hatred when something goes wrong, and /u/industria was the target this time.

Inactivity and inability to act as a moderator results in being demodded unless the person steps down. I promise we're not dramatic at all, we don't log in and think about how to fuck things up today. We just want to see the community grow, and play the game we love.

Posting to SRD results in a massive and unjustified witch-hunt, and I am extremely disappointed with those who don't work out their problems and instead go to places like that to talk shit about one another.

I have feelings, I can see what /u/stratager is posting and I recognize that what he's saying and doing isn't necessarily always right and can be very hurtful. We can all recognize this. He did not speak for the moderators as a group in a majority of the posts he made.

Dealing with the aftershock and taking the hits once everything has been said and done is so worrying. And then it gets to the point where it goes too far.

Please, please be decent to one another. We all have feelings, we're all people on the other side.

BurntFlower · 21 時間前

Seriously? People actually sent her death threats over this?! I really hope all those pieces of shit were banned from reddit, and if not, they really should be. This makes me sick to my stomach. If you were one of the people who did this, go fuck yourself.

I'm going to miss /u/industria. She was extremely kind to me, and a good moderator. I really hope she comes back. Those sad, pathetic wastes of space aren't worth leaving the community for.

MrXeon20 · 22 時間前

Each time something like this happens i get a little more dissapointed by Reddit, why do we have to go so far and send threats to people making them feel unsafe? I feel completly terrible about this, i just can't believe how people can be like this.

/u/industria did not deserve this and no one does, I really hope this ends all the stupid drama and arguments and makes people realize that cyber-bullying (and threatening persons) is NOT a joke.

I hope for the best of this sub and the new moderation team, please people, don't let this repeat itself...

thunderling · 21 時間前

Can't we all just get along?

I just don't understand how this sub, which is normally always so friendly, can have such hateful drama.

behonourable · 15 時間前

This is some serious fucking ridiculous bullshit. I just want to play neopets and have fun not deal with ridiculous drama

bitterred · 13 時間前

I've felt for a long time that /u/stratager was a toxic presence in the sub, and am glad to see him go. I was never angry at /u/industria.

/r/neopets has gone through rough times in the past, although I've made no secret of my belief that Strat is the person who caused some of those dramas, so hopefully that is at an end, or at least will cool down. To me, /r/neopets is about the joy of our pixels and sharing our good Neo fortunes. We always go back to that.

Foreversquare · 22 時間前

This is what happens when you give people the power of anonymity.

houndozer · 22 時間前

For fucks sake people, I know Industria wasn't the most agreeable person here but the stalking and harassment shit is just petty.

warelecmon · 22 時間前

I'm sickened by what happened to industria. To be harassed to the point of deleting your account because people disagree with something that is at the end of the day so trivial is astonishing in the worst way. Death threats? I don't even know what you would have to do to make death threats an appropriate reaction, and all that happened here was a change in mods! Industria and all of our current mods have done a lot for the sub whether you personally agree with their decisions or not, and this is absolutely not what you should subject her to by linking to SRD even if you didn't make the threats yourself.

I hope industria takes all the time she needs to feel safe again. Stuff like this freaks ME out and it's not even happening to me. Poor thing :(

LadyCJJ · 21 時間前

This has me absolutely livid.

If any of you who decided to hide behind an anonymous account and send her death threats: seriously re-evaluate your life. Whether you liked her or not, NO ONE deserves to have death wished upon them. Not a single fucking person.

I am incredibly disappointed that she is gone, but I understand why she did it. I did not know her well, but I was lucky enough to catch her and Dice in the TinyChat a while back (maybe about a year ago?) and I had such a fun time chatting with them there.

I hope she feels comfortable enough to come back here someday. What a sad day. I can't believe this.

necahual · 21 時間前

This makes me incredibly disappointed. /u/industria was not even a part of the root source of the drama in this sub, she was only a witness to it as all of the rest of us were. She in no way or form did anything to deserve such hate, and NO ONE deserves death threats or harassment like this. I was greatly looking forward to the Super Secret Santa and all future posts from /u/industria, who I was growing very fond of as a mod despite the negativity she has received since becoming a moderator. (This is a whole different story I don't feel like going into, but will say I think it was similarly uncool of this sub and its users to treat her like that.)

I don't blame her for leaving or deleting her account, but sincerely hope that someday this community will foster enough of a safe and positive atmosphere for her to return. I really, really hope that those who took part in the threats and abusive behavior were not members of this sub and were instead outsiders drawn to us from SRD, but if anyone from here did take part in it, I hope they feel properly ashamed of themselves, reflect on the wrong they have caused, and do not ever return.

Rasupdoo · 20 時間前

I had no idea that things can spin so out of control. This hurts to read and I wish I could do more than just offer text. If you're reading this /u/industria I want you to know you can count one more in the large group of people on here who is going to miss ya and is shocked anyone could be so caustic and awful towards you over something so trivial :c

danielintheden · 20 時間前

Sigh. Okay, I didn't like her at first. I thought she was really rude and just not a really great mod, but then I started seeing her around a lot and I actually began to like her a lot. She's done a lot of great things for the sub. Sad to see this happen.

Goddammit guys, there's more drama in this sub than in my school. And I'm in high school...

SilkenStrand · 20 時間前

Whoa- What did I miss?- Industria seemed awesome from what I saw, what's going on???

gr82bhpy · 14 時間前

I can honestly say say I spend more time lurking here than Id like to admit, but Ive seen the stuff industia has done for the subreddit and she is just a great person :c Im going to miss seeing her around here ;~;

PoisonThorn · 22 時間前

I have so much to say, so much hurtful shit to say to the people that acted so far out of line, but I don't want to make things any worse. Hell, it's hard not to break down and cry.

I'm disgusted with how some people acted, people that I had so much respect for. Witch-hunting, brigading, harassment, SRD, and now death threats. Seriously, have you had to stoop so goddamn low to make someone feel like shit just so you could somehow make your own pathetic life look like it's worth a damn? You crossed the line, and you are a foul human being.

poondi · 22 時間前

I am so incredibly pissed at right now. I just messaged industria earlier to thank her for stuff and she seemed so down. I didn't realize the scope of what she was facing.

To the assholes who like screwing with people on here: What the actual hell is wrong with you? What kind of person gets some sort of twisted enjoyment on threatening someone about a site for kids? I am disgusted by the fact that you think thats okay, that there is anything someone could say on reddit that would justify threats, let alone just doing her freaking job. Especially the people on SRD who are so self righteous about this, and think they were doing something great. And not even just about industria, everything over there. I especially liked the we didn't mean to involve you just the people we don't like and the we would never make fun of peoples issues, just the stuff we think is funny gosh. Well congratulations. Are you happy now? Is there some sort of satisfaction from her deleting her account? Pathetic.

Ugh, I'm sorry this happened to you /u/industria. So sorry.

whatismylifejeez · 22 時間前

This is... heart-breaking. I don't know what to say. It blows my mind that something this shameful could happen on a sub like this, where users are usually so supportive of and kind to one another. /u/industria, please take care.

How can something like this be prevented in the future? Rules against SRD posts, maybe a semi-regular "vent" thread where people are encouraged to voice dissatisfactions publicly and civilly? Though I guess the kind of people who would stoop to this kind of harassment wouldn't be the kinds of people to actually use those threads. :/

Reginalena · 18 時間前

I had no idea this sub had any drama.

^This ^is ^why ^I ^don't ^post ^on ^reddit

kris10leigh · 23 時間前

Wow, that's terrible for her. I'm so sorry that happened, Mel.

Re: Card Exchage - If anyone no longer has their assignment (not sure if reddit deletes PMs from deleted accounts), let me know and I'll look it up for you. To ensure that nobody but me and Mel (and your card-writer) will ever have access to your address, I'll be the sole point of contact on this.

Sorry about the inconvenience, everyone. If it turns out everything needs to be re-sent I'll get that together but there might be a slight delay.

macabrasive · 22 時間前

What.

THe fuck.

Is wrong with people.

Anyways. I'm all set up with my secret santa, so I'm good with that.

I don't blame her for deleting her account. I've been harassed on reddit because I stupidly use the same username for multiple things and it shows my public contact info sometimes.

Anyways, that's fucking disgusting and I'm appalled at the sense of community. I don't care to know the drama.

/u/industria you never acted unfairly or did anything wrong in my eyes and were always a great mod. I hope that someday you'll come back and see this =)

ObnoxiousRuins · 20 時間前

I'm mostly a lurker here but I gotta say this is outright terrible. Nobody deserves this treatment. Especially someone who worked so hard to make this sub how it is today. I do hope /u/industria does return one day, or at least know that she is well-liked by the community in a general manner and we feel for her tremendously. Well, at least I can. I truly wish her the best and a fast recovery from this horrible event.

roxychalk · 19 時間前

People are assholes. I feel so bad for /u/industria :( Hopefully we can move forward from this and figure out a way to mitigate whatever pathetic idiot posted our thread SRD and subsequently snowballed someone (online and probably bled over into real life).

This is supposed to be a fun website and a place for people who appreciate that website to connect and talk freely.

arcticfirefox · 18 時間前

It is things like this that make me wonder how "great" this sub's community is. Resistant to change (even if it's a good change) and child-like tantrums. Seriously, death threats? Stalking? What is wrong with you?! And for what? Something that she didn't take part in? She's done a wonderful job with the sub! She has hosted giveaways, created new activities, kept boards clean, and was a contributing (and awesome) member of the sub as well! If that doesn't prove that she deserves our respect and appreciation, then maybe this board isn't what it's credited for. Where is the kindness I've heard about in this sub? I know not everybody participated in this ridiculous and childish action but those that did, you should be ashamed! You don't belong in this community. You are a detriment to what this sub tries to establish.

Nellaette · 16 時間前

This is very upsetting. This time of year is for joy, giving and peace. I am extremely sad to see that /u/industria had to delete her account because she was made to feel unsafe. There is no place in this world, online or not for bullying and I am disgusted with anyone who had to belittle someone and threaten them. I may not be as talkative as some other people are in this subreddit, but I do read what everyone says, and have seen what a nice person /u/industria is (albeit with a rocky start to her modding career), how she did her voluntary job and I hope she will return to us one day!

I hope with the New Year, we ALL turn a new leaf and start afresh. To be honest, we shouldn't have to even wait for New Year, but it's a goal I hope we can all work towards. Congrats /u/climeski for being re-modded and to /u/diceroll123 for becoming top-dog. ;) Virtual hugs for all!

shivers_42 · 10 時間前

This is horrible. Do people not understand that bullying is never ok? Death threats are insanely not ok? I hope this didn't come from within this sub at all. I don't really know SRD but I feel like they get their content from other subs (ie the drama) and the people within them should be off limit. Moving past that, I really hope Mel can come back and feel safe eventually. She's been a huge part of this sub and has helped us through rough Mod changes and rough Neopets changes, and this is the last thing she should ever have to go through. Mel, if you're lurking I want you to know that you're loved and appreciated. I give you a million zillion virtual hugs.

TheYetiCall · 10 時間前

Wait what? I have to ask (though likely wont get an answer) was she getting threats from people in /r/neopets or was it just crazy people who like to surf through /r/SubredditDrama? Not only was it made clear that none of what happened yesterday was her choice but she wasn't even really there for any of it. She had what, five posts total in that thread?

I really didn't think anyone in /r/neopets would stoop this low and still can't actually imagine it.

ohthisisnostalgia · 22 時間前

This makes my heart heavy. I'm sorry for /u/industria that anybody felt the need to pick her apart to this point. I don't know her that well but I do know nobody deserves that. :( I genuinely hope she will somehow recover from this emotional abuse and move on from the hate that she has received.

hopegigalo · 22 時間前

This makes me very sad :\ Honestly, /u/industria was/is an awesome mod and fellow Neopian/real human being, and I can't believe she had to endure that kind of abuse. No one should ever have to deal with that kind of bs. Especially when they're doing our entire subreddit community a favor, by ensuring that it runs properly on a day to day basis. Not agreeing with someone is fine, but be an adult about it, don't send them death threats. Realize that in the real world, there will be many people you don't agree with, and accept it. Don't torment people you disagree with, even if the internet shields you with anonymity. It's hurtful and immature, and honestly only leads to more animosity and pain.

I'm so sorry /u/industria, I hope you come back soon, and I am so sad that you had to endure that kind of torment and abuse.

UltrasaurusRex · 21 時間前

I like /u/industria. She was very hard working and a good mod. It's sad to see her go.

MuNotEpsilonNot · 21 時間前

Sigh. Ffs. I'm assuming you're still in contact with her some how. Let her know I'm truly sorry this happened. That all i can really say :(

thatplaidhat · 21 時間前

Oh no :( I hope she's okay. This is really sad. I hope our beloved subreddit can heal in time.

khaleesibitchborn · 21 時間前

Oh my goodness. What is /wrong/ with people! I'm so sorry that has happened to her.

slices_of_HAM · 20 時間前

I mean, I'm a bit afraid to speak up, but reading that now infamous thread that was linked in SRD, it really took me back to my days in high school cafeterias with drama and vitriolic finger pointing along with snide passive-aggressive insults... and the result also felt like, "WTF, I thought this sub was about user participation and discussion. I feel like there's so much that we don't know going on behind the scenes and that makes me less comfortable to spend time here."

Sorry that she deleted her account though.

Neoperts · 19 時間前

No no no no no! I'm so shocked and outrage. Why? Why /u/industria? What the actual fuck is wrong with people? I'm not going to be as succinct as other people but whatever I'm pissed.

Fuck anyone who stalked her and sent her hateful messages. I hope anyone who threatened her feels the acidic guilt of being a disgusting human being burning in the pit of their stomach. I hope you realize how horrible you are and change your life around. I really hope the majority was by the SRD trolls then our own community here.

/u/industria if you are reading this I hope you can come back soon. Nothing you did deserved this kind of unwanted abuse and harassment. Take all the time you need and know that the majority of us in the subreddit are here for you and would never, ever hurt you like that. I'm so sorry this happened to you and I'm ashamed and very turned off of reddit right now.

piperandcharlie · 19 時間前

I am so sorry, /u/Industria. You didn't deserve any of that. I hope /u/diceroll123 can pass that on to you.

poopeepoo · 19 時間前

wtf that's horrible, who would even do that? Like your life must be pretty dull if you feel like you're obligated to harass someone because of what happened in a virtual pet site's subreddit. Very disappointed and I hope the people apologise.

And I'm also disappointed that this got posted in SRD because that sub is pretty stupid IMO and just makes drama even worse. Obviously I'm not mad at the actual person who posted in SRD because I know that if not them, it would've been someone else but really, if you don't like drama you'd stay out of the way and not post in that sub.

Sorry to everyone that's been cyber bullied because this is literally the dumbest thing and I hope the harassers sort themselves out.

starburstjellybean · 11 時間前

What???? I can't believe this is happening. :( I've only recently come back to Neo & Reddit so maybe I missed a bunch of stuff, but I was really shocked by yesterday's thread and all the drama going on there. I love this sub because I've always felt like everyone is so kind and friendly, so I didn't even know what to do or say when I read all that yesterday. And now to hear about /u/industria... I'm just really sad about all of this. I hope /u/industria will be able to come back someday and feel SAFE to be here. I hope we'll be able to stay above this kind of drama in the future and continue to be the loving community I know we are. I really like everyone here, and I wish all this hadn't happened the way it did.

discohaylie · 9 時間前

This has gotten way out of hand. It's a fucking website people, just be nice to each other.

suzerz · 9 時間前

What is wrong with people?? Death threats? Saying she deserves to die? This is NEOPETS, I can't even process this.

midnightdragon · 21 時間前

This is incredibly devastating. I am mostly a lurker here, but I have loved seeing what /u/industria has brought to the sub in her short time as a mod and was looking forward to what she and the other mods would do to make the sub better. I hope she is okay wherever she is.

smartman294 · 20 時間前

This drama just seems to be getting worse and worse. Everything started going downhill when the server migration hit then the duping glitches started and that went nuts and now this. There just needs to be peace again.

fizzyapplecider · 17 時間前

I'm relatively new to this community and really have no context for all the drama. But differences should be resolved via communication, not pointless vitriol and hatred :( Cyber-bullying is never, ever, justified in any case.

I've always believed /u/industria to be a great mod, and experienced how actively she works for this sub. If you ever see this, just know that we're behind you. I send you my love and support and hope you recover from this emotional trauma. Stay strong!

PolarBearIcePop · 16 時間前

omg, i had no idea. please give mine and our best wishes to Industria, she did nothing but good things here.

inourstars · 23 時間前

You think you've seen it all, and then people are sending fucking death threats over a subreddit related to a children's site.

I hate knowing I'm a part of a community that includes people that would stoop so low as to stalk someone's entire post history and send them death threats. No matter what you think of /u/industria or anyone that is a line that shouldn't be crossed, ever. This is some gamergate level shit in our sub, and I don't really have any words to express how I feel without spewing vitriol and anger every which way.

If you're one of the perps of this, get out before you do anymore damage to anyone else.

Loop_quantum_gravity · 23 時間前

Uh... How do i even sign up for the secret santa thingy?

theonlygurl · 11 時間前

MEL IS GONE?

This makes me cry.

What the FUCK is wrong with you people? You can just absentmindedly start harassing someone because something changes. Jesus Christ, grow the fuck up. Seriously. You're all assholes. Mel is a good person and a great mod. Shove it up your asses.

robuneh · 5 時間前

Wow. I never realized there could be so much drama going on in a sub about Neopets.

Industria, if you get the chance to read this, I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. None of this is your fault, the truth is that people are sometimes just awful. I'm sorry something as innocent as talking about neopets went so badly. Hopefully someday you'll come back here, because I feel like you really did contribute to the sub and its really shitty that people had to drive you off that way. I'm sure your contributions will be missed, but I hope you're doing well outside of Reddit drama.

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