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[–]pernambuco 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (21子コメント)

All of these people should be arrested ASAP. Blocking a freeway -- preventing people from getting to their own jobs/meetings whatever -- is disgusting. There's a right way to protest; this isn't it.

[–]bottledhope33 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, no, I'm sure the three hours I'm going to end up spending in traffic while sick will thoroughly drive the point home and make me feel for their cause. /s

[–]agrueeatedu -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

The "right way" to protest doesn't work. Our government gives you the right to speak your mind, but that's worthless if the platform you're given is out of sight. A protest in front of city hall might have gotten 5 minutes on the nightly news, now it's guaranteed to get significantly more than that. People don't have a right to use roads, they do have a right to know that they won't be arrested or killed because of the color of their skin.

[–]cynical_bohunk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

...what? It is a common and fundamental right of the people be able to use roadways for travel and transportation. What are you talking about?

[–]antonymous -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, our founding fathers said this in the Constitution. "The right of the people to travel upon interstate roadways shall not be impeded" I believe it was Eisenhower who enshrined this in the eleventeenth Article of Independence

[–]FightOrFlight -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's going to get more press because they're doing something that upsets people, not because of their cause.

Please read up on the boston tea party. They did a political protest to the people that were causing the problems. They didn't go into the town to target ordinary people and block roads.

[–]ShadedFox 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They destroyed property of the East India Company, who had nothing to do with the taxes. They prevented said tea from getting to the colonies, which I'm sure some tea drinkers were pretty upset about.

[–]autowikibot 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Boston Tea Party:


The Boston Tea Party (initially referred to by John Adams as "the Destruction of the Tea in Boston" ) was a political protest by the Sons of Liberty in Boston, on December 16, 1773. The demonstrators, some disguised as American Indians, destroyed an entire shipment of tea sent by the East India Company, in defiance of the Tea Act of May 10, 1773. They boarded the ships and threw the chests of tea into Boston Harbor, ruining the tea. The British government responded harshly and the episode escalated into the American Revolution. The Tea Party became an iconic event of American history, and other political protests such as the Tea Party movement after 2010 explicitly refer to it.

The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act because they believed that it violated their rights as Englishmen to "No taxation without representation," that is, be taxed only by their own elected representatives and not by a British parliament in which they were not represented. Protesters had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain.

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[–]agrueeatedu -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

These aren't problems caused by specific people, nor are they ones that will be fixed by specific people. There is no specific person, nor group to appeal to, when all of us are responsible.

[–]zedextol 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Your comment is 100% correct. It's sad that people are downvoting just because they disagree with you regarding the methods being used by today's protesters, but it also highlights and punctuates the systemic problem with civil discourse in this country: there seems to be a notion that you're either 100% right or 100% wrong.

God forbid anyone look past the messenger to see the message.

[–]FightOrFlight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Let's break this down

  1. These aren't problems caused by specific people
  2. nor are they ones that will be fixed by specific people
  3. There is no specific person, nor group to appeal to
  4. all of us are responsible.
  1. This is caused by police guidelines that allow police officers the liberty to decide on their own terms what is "life threatening" and to have limited liability in the case of death. So some of these problems are caused by the police officers and law makers who write these guidelines.
  2. These guidelines can be fixed by the Judicial branch of government and under rare conditions by the Executive branch.
  3. You may literally appeal to the Judicial system. It is within the families rights to do this.
  4. Using the words All and Always is a terrible idea. You cannot hold a 5 year old responsible nor can you hold a immigrant who does not know English yet responsible for the actions of two police officers in New York. Can I hold you responsible if I go punch a person and blamed it on race?

So /u/agrueeatedu statement is 100% false.

[–]zedextol 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think what /u/agrueeatedu is saying is that these are systemic and societal problems that can only be fixed if we the people stop being complicit to murder, profiling, racial prejudice and profiling, and classism.

And as for points 2 and 3, that made me laugh, you know, because these protests are basically the result of a completely failed judicial system that would rather protect corrupt cops than do what is right.

[–]FightOrFlight 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You cannot be serious. A truck driver in Minneapolis cannot be held accountable for a police officer's action in New York.

There is someone responsible, the police officers involved with the case. There are specific people who can fix this and you need to appeal to all 3 tiers of government.

Please read more into the Judicial, Executive, Legislative branches. All 3 can be appealed to solve this problem.

[–]banitsa 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And those branches are supposed to represent the will of the people. Not enough people realize it yet but our society, we the people, still has problems with race and injustice. Raising awareness among the general public is an essential part of fixing those problems.

[–]IkLms -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Seriously, if I'm stuck in traffic because a bunch of assholes are in the road I'm going to be pissed