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Looks like /r/conspiracy and /r/911truth got tricked. An AMA from a month ago for a top 9/11 truther appears to have been faked. (self.SubredditDrama)

75000_Tokkul が 投稿

Stickied AMA advertised by mods ends up being fake a whole month later. Dramatic happening drama time.

The post where the top 9/11 truther found out the other AMA was fake.

Another post about the fake AMA

The AMA in question

Looks like /r/conspiratard is having a good laugh over it

Looks like the news hasn't broken to most of /r/conspiracy yet.

These are the only 2 mentions I found.

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[–]wcspaz 83 ポイント84 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Eh, that evidence looks a bit too... convenient. Does anybody have a 2 hour long rambling youtube video by an anonymous poster claiming to be an expert in Richard Gage impersonation?

[–]postirony 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have a poorly formatted wordpress blog with a wall of text. Does that help?

[–]wcspaz 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is the background black with illuminati symbols? Otherwise I'm assuming you're shilling for.... Um.... Otherwise you're a shill.

[–]AstorSapolsky 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Big Geocities.

[–]Froghurt 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nope, but I do have a 6 hour documentary explaining why Hitler wasn't such a bad guy if that helps?

[–]75000_Tokkul[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was hilarious.

I think the best part was when a mod removed it temporarily. So much anger.

/r/conspiracy used to have a bot that posted all removals from the subreddit and who did it. Used to because it mysteriously stopped working after it was used to show who removed that documentary.

The same subreddit has no problem being angry subreddit don't have public moderation logs.

[–]75000_Tokkul[S] 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Its almost as bad as using the wrong aircraft in a PC based video game to help support a claim.

My favorite comment. The user who caught this and is complaining about the /r/conspiracy mods is the head of a 9/11 truth group.

That group made a video in Microsoft flight simulator, claimed it disproved 9/11, used the wrong plane, and charged ~$18 for the video.

[–]Jacques_R_Estard 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh shit, is this that guy? I loved reading about that the first time. It's quite the business model they've got going there. Sometimes I wish I didn't have this pesky nagging conscience, so I could make money off of random idiots too. I'd go big on homeopathy, astrology, conspiracies, whatever.

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurre 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

shit, as long as you put the word “parody” at the bottom of your site, you’ll be able to make money off the idiots while still keeping your conscience clean.

[–]Jacques_R_Estard 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Meh, I don't know. Still feels wrong.

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurre 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

ugh normal human emotions are such a nuisance. what if you took all the money you made from the idiots and donated it to charities aimed at improving critical thinking in education so that future potential idiots get that stuff learned out of them?

[–]Jacques_R_Estard 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You make it sound like it would be a lot of work. Where's the fun in making lots of money if you have to work for it?

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurre 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

the fun comes from getting to see /r/conspiracy upvote and agree with your website’s claim that the moon landing was orchestrated by 9/11 to kill JFK’s doppelgänger so Hitler could become the new Elvis once the previous one returned to his home planet.

[–]Jacques_R_Estard 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oooooooooooooooooo

That could be fun.

[–]DougyAM 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That group made a video in Microsoft flight simulator, claimed it disproved 9/11, used the wrong plane, and charged ~$18 for the video.

That is how you know someone is telling you the truth, when they charge you money in exchange for information.

It shows that they have only the justness of their claim in mind... that and profiting from mentally ill people.

[–]OllyTwist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hilarious! It never ceases to amaze me the different ways conspiritards find to embarrass themselves.

[–]felixthecat9898 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's a flight simulator not a crash simulator

[–]ComedicSans 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe they rebranded the Microsoft Crash Simulator as "Windows Millennium Edition".

[–]karmavorous 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it is the one I am thinking of, they used FSX (Microsoft Flight Simulation [10]). They used the default New York City terrain map - which is awful considering there is a very nice rendition of NYC done my Aerosoft for FSX. They didn't even spring for the $20 terrain upgrade.

And like you said, it's Flight Simulator, not Crash Simulator. Their claim was that it wasn't possible because the simulator said "CRASH" and dumped them to the menu when the plane exited it's normal flight envelope in the dive before they ever even got close to the WTC. On most FSX aircraft, the acceptable flight envelope (for the sim) is very conservative. CRASH on the plane they were using could mean it experienced g forces significant enough to spill drinks in first class - which pretty much means the pilot is fired, but probably doesn't mean the aircraft disintegrated.

I've landed Aeroncas and Piper Cubs on the roof of some of the skycrapers on a windy day in FSX. It's definitely not meant to be a true simulation of all the aspects of flying. Just like Call of Duty is not an accurate representation of real world combat - I'm sure that notion would break a lot of conspiratard hearts as well.

[–]cheese93007 90 ポイント91 ポイント  (14子コメント)

/r/conspiracy being gullible? Next you'll be telling me the sky is blue!

[–]OllyTwist 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (1子コメント)

the sky is blue

Only because of chemtrails

[–]System09 99 ポイント100 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Look, you may be new here, but /r/conspiracy is where many top minds collaborate, and routinely outsmart the most well funded, well equipped and diabolical organizations on earth. How do we do it? Top thinkers, experts on every field, unparalleled investigative skills and fearlessness. I would trust a top comment here over pretty much any news source, especially a mainstream source, any day.

[–]verylegitaccount 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's the thing. You said a "/r/conspiracy is full of top minds"

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a top mind who studies stuff, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls conspiratards top minds. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "meme family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Maymaydae, which includes things from rage comics to image macros to verticals.

So your reasoning for calling a /r/conspiracy poster a top mind is because random people "call themselves top minds?" Let's get investigative and fearless in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a top mind or an idiot? It's not one or the other, that's not how mindology works. They're both. A conspiratard is a joke and a member of the criminally insane family. But that's not what you said. You said a /r/conspiracy poster is a top mind, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the reddit family top minds, which means you'd call /r/theredpill, /r/adviceanimals, and other subs top minds, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

[–]4ringcircus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still golden.

[–]cheese93007 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So with that in mind, is this good news for Bitcoin?

[–]System09 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only if top minds get on it, so yes.

[–]SolarAquarion 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wonder if it's good news for gaming journalism

[–]TNBK -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but only the ethics.

[–]Myrandall 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To this day still my favorite (short) pasta.

[–]ryegye24 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Top comments there are automatically inducted into the hall of Known Truths TM

[–]lilahking 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where was this from again?

[–]Leakylocks 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

An actual post from /r/conspiracy

[–]larrylemur 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

> Implying the sky isn't a holographic projection covering up the truth

[–]viviennewestworld 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (4子コメント)

They are all a bit slow on the uptake, aren't they. In the first thread the OP posts (paraphrasing)

I emailed tht person and he said he didn't post the AMA

followed by being asked -

hold on, are you suggesting it wasn't him?

It's not really ambiguous is it?? 'He says it's not him' - 'Are you hinting that it's not him'

[–]75000_Tokkul[S] 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were confused because it wasn't in the form of a YouTube video.

[–]Jacques_R_Estard 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think it's what happens if you spend all your time "just asking questions." It's hard to stop.

[–]AbsolutShite 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you sure?

[–]Jacques_R_Estard 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who benefits from knowing if I'm sure?

[–]Bluepillschool 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is this steaming pile of bullshit?

Reddit's top detectives would have figured it out by now--I now this AMA has to be real because if it wasn't there'd be half a dozen Youtube videos explaining how the fake AMA was made and who was responsible for it. I don't know if you've realized this, but I have it on good authority that they literally are the world's top minds. If there was any trickery they would have known within minutes!

These are just false flags. /r/Conspiracy finds the truth, and if there had been anything to find they would have already found it and blamed it on a racial minority.

[–]postirony 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Note that that is NOT GayUnicorn6969 but an imposter.

Where is the real GayUnicon6969, and when can I hear his opinions on this matter? It's very important.

[–]jollygaggin 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

GU692 is a minor celebrity over in /r/conspiratard. Dude's insanity is nothing short of legendary.

[–]CouchRadish 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I remember when his first shadowban hit. I woke up in a hotel in New Orleans and saw the magic happening. Hell, I still think I was the one to set him to how he got banned.

Edit: Found the thread which followed his meltdowns, which I still am happy for starting.

[–]jollygaggin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

CouchRadish, you are my hero.

[–]Strich-9 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's long gone. Kept getting shadowbanned, thought "I'd punch a sandy hook truther if i met him" was an implicit threat of violence, spat the dummy when the admins wouldn't shadowban every body who he claimed was a government agent or was "threatening" him or just made it onto a list he created that he would update whenever he banned people.

[–]75000_Tokkul[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (7子コメント)

He complained constantly he wanted a mod position in /r/911truth.

When he finally got it one of his first acts was to ban tons of people and issue new rules saying that no debunking or the official story is allowed. Basically banned truth from /r/911truth.

Soon after he did something to get shadowbanned. From his temper I would imagine it was threats.

[–]R_Sholes 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Best part was when he came back on an alt right after that, immediately posted a hey-guys-its-me thread to /r/911truth... and another mod gave him a hearty welcome with a "Removed, rule 1: Stay on topic"

[–]Algee 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't know about the shadowban. Most users that are shadowbanned come right back.

What I heard is that he got doxxed hard and asked the admins to delete his account. It would explain why /r/conspiratard mods delete any thread talking about him now, along with why he never popped up again.

[–]Strich-9 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

he came back multiple times and kept getting re-banned, look it up on conspiratard. I think he spat the dummy and quit for good eventually.

[–]Algee -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh, I know what happened. Theres a possibility that whoever doxxed him made that account and pretended to be him.

citations:

[–]R_Sholes -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

  • Unremoved original discussion of his ban in /r/conspiratard
  • Every account suspected to be his alt is banned/deleted. That user with well sourced doxxing claim is shadowbanned as well. AFAIK, impostors aren't getting shadowbanned so readily. People who annoyed admins repeatedly are, though.
  • There's "delete" button under every post you make and "delete account" button in your profile. If his concern was "but my nick is pretty unique and searchable!", then I don't think admins succeeded in wiping it from redditors' memories. This just doesn't make sense.

[–]Algee -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know if the admins actually deleted his account or he did himself, but I think its much more plausible that he received threats and that the admins got involved. It explains the errant comments supporting that idea, along with the mods of /r/conspiratard deleting every mention of the guy.

Besides, I can't imagine such a avid nut job having that kind of melt down then just vanishing from the site completely.

[–]shakypears -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see why. He seems to use the same username all over the place. That's bad news.

[–]zxcv1992 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So much for top minds haha

[–]DougyAM 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Jooz are obviously behind this in an attempt to discredit the Top MindsTM of /r/conspiracy.

[–]OllyTwist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit this is fucking hilarious

[–]phedre 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You and the Richard_Gage who participated in that AMA seem to be one and the same person from what I can tell.

A new conspiracy is born!

This is the first time I've really ventured into the conspiracy sub. Just reading all their "are you suggesting/is he saying" type questions made my teeth hurt.

[–]whisperingmoon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This whole thing is bullshit. Any of /r/conspiracy's top minds should have been able to smell the lie a mile away-- after all, everyone knows that 9/11 never actually happened.

[–]Barl0we 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

everyone knows that 9/11 never actually happened.

Obama faked it to cover up chemtrails!

[–]The_YoungWolf 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

PilotsForTruth is still around? I thought he got banned for financial self-promotion or something.

I'm glad GayUnicorn still isn't around though. I feel dirty using this word but it's appropriate as per its definition and GU's history - he was PFT's #1 shill.

[–]R_Sholes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's still shadowbanned - if you click his name you get "Page not found".

Shadowbanned users' posts still show up if mods of a subreddit approve them.

[–]The_YoungWolf -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aha, I thought as much.

[–]75000_Tokkul[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I may have reported him a while ago....and then all the alts he used after.

The guy exclusively posts his for profit links. It is rare something doesn't have a donation link on it for him.

I do it for all accounts like that.

[–]mikerhoa 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently Flytape is looking for more /r/conspiracy mods and the bullshitter has volunteered!

Absolutely love it...

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurre 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you not find it remotely suspicious that PilotsforTruth - a banned troll account - made this claim, with no evidence except a copypasta of a supposed email (yeah right...thats about as convincing as NISTs reports!)...

firstly:

BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA with that last line, you seriously sound like a cartoon version of a super eager community action leader speaking on the subject of baked goods.

secondly:

anyone else notice how gay unicorn above and the pilots for truth both pepper their sentences with ellipses? smells like a conspiracy to me!

[–]redditbots 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

(mirror | open source | create your own snapshots)

[–]pmtransthrowaway 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like those wily Joos are at it again!

(Disclaimer I'm being sarcastic)

[–]eberkneezer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was there any joke from the troll/imposter. Or was getting caught and the fallout the payoff?

I don't think the /r/conspiracy community minds trolls and fakes just so long as the narrative they produce is acceptable. The lack of reaction to this fake is testament to that... Compare this to the overreaction to an ordinary user who dares to simply speaks their mind against known truths.

Seeing that kind of circlejerk a lot from an /r/undelete perspective. It seems people embrace the likes of magnora even if he is easily discredited by long time conspiracy posters.

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[–]Monolithus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Has anyone said it must be /u/BipolarBear0 yet? I'm near a bingo over here.

[–]R_Sholes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the free square.

[–]turole -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good find OP. This is the kind of conspiracy drama I can get behind. When they look like absolute idiots.

Edit: The more I see 9/11 conspiracy theories the more I think that the jooz shouldn't have collapsed building 7 for absolutely no reason. It really gave away the whole conspiracy part of it. I mean, since the conspiracy theorists mention it so often it must such a strong point for them.

[–]KyosBallerina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

God /u/NAM007 is obsessed with this. Clearly this person has an unhealthy attachment to Richard Gage.

[–]NAM007 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not.

It's a problem when well over 100,000 people are trolled/duped over an issue like this.

[–]Pvt_Hudson_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read through some of his other comments. I think he might actually be utterly insane. Take this one as an example:

np.reddit.com/r/911truth/comments/2mosap/what_hit_the_pentagon_frank_legge_the_hard/cm6gxg8

Ho...leee...shit. That's a hugely paranoid rambling that tries to make the case that 9/11 was intentionally designed to make conspiracy theorists look silly.