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Richard Gage was on our site today... (self.911truth)

welder621 が 投稿

I asked him if he is going to be doing another AMA and thanked him for answering my question, but disagreed with his answer and was going to show him why, as that goes against how we do things on a demo site (this was in regards angled cut beams, which you do not do as that is and always has been against regulation)

He said he has never done a AMA and agrees that a straight cut and lift is how it is done.

I think conspiracy and us users got trolled.

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[–]welder621[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Does anyone know who set the AMA up?

[–]NAM007 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Good question.

[–][削除されました]  (15子コメント)

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    [–]NAM007 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You, and they, got scammed.

    All the other AMA's include an image posted from a twitter account to verify that the person is the person they say they are. This wasn't done.

    Turns out Richard Gage wasn't even emailed, to verify.

    And, since anyone can set up an account at reddit, well - looks like we all got trolled.

    Maybe the real Richard Gage might be willing to conduct a Reddit AMA..?

    [–][削除されました]  (1子コメント)

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      [–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Both accounts are now deleted; along with the AMA.

      [–]welder621[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      ...and you are the account that dominated the top post of that AMA with 4 or 5 worthless questions...

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        [–]welder621[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        They were absolutely worthless questions to a AIA structural engineer.

        May i ask your profession /u/Lookingfortruths

        [–][削除されました]  (7子コメント)

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          [–]PilotsForTruth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

          Have any of you thought to email Richard directly as I did? rgage@ae911truth.org

          (pssst... there is a reason I keep repeating his email address on this matter)

          [–]SovereignMan[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          One of the mods here is working on trying to contact him by email and by phone.

          [–]NAM007 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Good, good.

          [–]welder621[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Please be a decent human being and post everything, better still, contact him yourself and post screen shots

          [–]NAM007 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Ae911truths

          If it's found that this redditor is misrepresenting themselves as represent Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth - can you please try to get them banned both at r/911truth and at r/conspiracy?

          Thanks.

          [–]Shredder13 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (15子コメント)

          It's also worth noting that each "engineering student" user was created about a week before the AMA (in order to post on r/conspiracy) and only commented on the AMA and nothing since.

          [–]welder621[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Probably same reason i am posting on a alt account, avoid the bullshit that comes with being a truther, when being a active and popular user on engineering subreddits.

          Common sense.

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                [–]SovereignMan[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Rule 1. Removed.

                [–]SovereignMan[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                Rule 1. Removed.

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                  [–]SovereignMan[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  Rule 1. Removed.

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                    [–]PilotsForTruth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    This is an excellent point. We at P4T rarely delete any post. When and if we do, people know exactly who we are and why the post was deleted... (mostly porn and viargra spambots who slipped through the cracks during registration).

                    No one knows who runs this subreddit... including me. I have asked SM and others if they would tell me their identity discretely... and they have refused.

                    With that said, the mods here have limited ability I assume. For example... we at P4T can split and move threads/posts of those who are trolls... therefore we don't have to delete posts. I am thinking the mods here do not have such power. After all, this section is free, while we at P4T pay for the license and hosting services. Therefore, we have much more ability.

                    My posts here on reddit have been approved virtually every post I have made after being "shadowbanned" due to the /tards influencing the Reddit admins many months ago. So I have a feeling the mods here are genuine... but I do not know for a fact who they are..... and they have a right to remain anonymous.... but as we have seen.. .anyone can impersonate anyone on reddit....

                    As always, use caution and question everything.

                    In closing, I would be happy to vouch for the mods on this subreddit.... using my real name ..... but I cannot honestly do that at this time.

                    911 Truth is a major issue which has been the catalyst to change our world. We at P4T put our names, face and professional reputations on the line. I feel that ANYONE who creates such a venue of 9/11 discussion should do the same....

                    Regards, Rob Balsamo Founder PilotsFor911TRuth.org Core member list here - pilotsfor911truth.org/core Photos here - patriotsquestion911.com/pilots FB here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/pilotsfortruth/

                    [–]SovereignMan[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Rule 1. Removed.

                    Edit: Restored.

                    [–]PilotsForTruth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    No... it isn't. :-)

                    [–]SovereignMan[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Rule 1. Removed.

                    If you have concerns, please use PM or message the mods.

                    [–]SovereignMan[M] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Rule 1. Removed.

                    [–]NAM007 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    So it really wasn't Richard Gage but an imposter who did that AMA, that's interesting.

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                      [–]NAM007 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Apparently the AE911truth account and the Richard_Gage account were created at the same time, and that it turns out it was a ruse or a prank against the truthers.

                      Therefore, it would be nice to have a REAL AMA with the REAL Richard Gage, as a do-over.

                      [–]welder621[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Although i do not have any proof, not allowed cameras on site, i also have absolutely nothing to gain.

                      For all i know, he actually did do the AMA, but didn't want to talk about it, or some other reason.

                      But, someone like him would know that you do not ever, in a million years, do angled cuts on a demo site, it is far too dangerous.

                      But during the clean up operation engineers were also seen deliberately making angled cuts in beams. They did this because they wanted the beam to slide away from them, into/onto the rest of the debris pile in a predictable manner - /u/Richard_Gage

                      This is nonsense and nothing about it is predictable, you do not do this in the US, Europe or Australia.

                      If you read the rest of his replies, they appear to be very obfuscation like (sorry if wrong word, English not my first language)

                      [–]NAM007 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      he seemed 'different' in the AmA

                      He sure did. Not so bright, snarky, rude, demanding. It wasn't him.

                      This will get sorted out.

                      [–]I_askthequestions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It would not be too hard for the NSA to get the passwords of any of our accounts... :(

                      [–]ridestraight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      No. It really wasn't. I requested verification...

                      [–]PilotsForTruth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      What is interesting is that no one thought to email Richard directly to find out if in fact it was him answering questions on the AMA.....

                      I bet the troll(s) who did it are having a great laugh at this time... (pretty sad hobby imo... but whatever floats their boat I suppose)... however, it does demonstrate what some people will do to suppress the truth and/or sow confusion.

                      [–]NAM007 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      What is interesting is that no one thought to email Richard directly to find out if in fact it was him answering questions on the AMA.....

                      Good point. I assumed that they did that, but I did wonder about it when the AMA Gage started responding. I even accused him in the AMA of not being Richard Gage, but again, the assumption was that he'd been emailed to verify, but he sure did seem to be out of character.

                      [–]Eggmont 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      it does demonstrate what some people will do to suppress the truth

                      Or do for shits and giggles, not everything is a conspiracy

                      [–]LesbianChimera 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      it does demonstrate what some people will do to suppress the truth and/or sow

                      Its almost as bad as using the wrong aircraft in a PC based video game to help support a claim.

                      [–]daneoid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I think it's a perfect example of how 'truthers' would rather just believe something because it fits their world view rather than fact checking.

                      [–]scottevil132 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      And I presume you "fact check" every AMA to make sure it's the real person?

                      [–]LadyManifesto 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      it's always the simple move that gets overlooked. Good point.

                      [–]welder621[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Can i also add, that if you think about angled cuts (to make them slide away from the operative) it makes zero logical sense, think about it if you were cutting a beam with a torch, it would fall back on to you! and if you have secured it via a crane, which is what you do, why take the long route through the beam and why take the risk of it swinging back at you like a wrecking ball, after it has probably ripped your arm off.

                      [–]I_askthequestions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Can the real Richard Gage correct any errors made in his AMA?
                      The differences might be interesting..

                      [–]NAM007 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      If it wasn't his AMA then he need not correct any errors.

                      The mods at r/conspiracy in contacting him are going to ask if he, the real Richard Gage might be interested in doing an AMA on reddit.

                      [–]NAM007 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Here's the thread where we got confirmation that the Richard Gage AMA was a hoax with a redditor by the name of AE911Truth setting up the AMA and then impersonating Gage.

                      http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2nhd2n/happy_thanksgiving_everyone_we_need_more_mods/cme19kb

                      [–]welder621[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Thanks.

                      Fucked up situation

                      [–]NAM007 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Fucked up situation

                      Very.