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[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (12子コメント)

As long as the dev team continues to use this as a means of communication about ingame updates and mechanics I'll continue to be active here. The day the team abandons this place I'm following them out the door.

There's absolutely nothing special about this place besides the fact I have the very unique ability to interact with the development team. Most people who post here don't even know how to use google.

[–]extrooper 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Precisely. This is exactly the reason I use this sub as well, the only one I'm signed up to btw. But if the devs are being pushed out, I don't mind going to the DayZ forums and hanging out there, they seem a lot friendlier than some of the r-tards round here.

[–]EdoianBeav is the name in game 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I actually wish they would completely dump reddit. I also wish the great members who put together the unofficial DayZ experimental patch notes and other occasional good thing on here, would move there too. Leave the nasty little turds here to rot in their own effluence.

[–]GandalfTheGriefBean stealer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some of us more regular redditors aren't complete spastics so I'd like them to stay. They're gonna get abuse everywhere.

[–]T0NZI don't like you either. 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most people who post here don't even know how to use google.

Honestly, the forums are a much better place than this shithole of a website. Having children who are going through puberty judging if a post should be seen or not shouldn't be how a discussion works and thats why this websites format is shot.

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hopefully it improves on Monday when the kids return to school.

[–]Muugle 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kids have smart phones now. They can bitchpost from class

The world we live in

[–]en1mal"i'm a grenade" 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just use the sub because the official forum generates much more traffic and has inconsistent loading times (really bad connection). I'm not even subbed anymore, but i take a look from time to time.

[–]Habean 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Couldn't agree with you more. Every day I wake up and check this subreddit for any dayz related new, maybe tap a few up votes, and MAYBE comment.

[–]-_-Loud-_- [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

So you frequent it daily, use all of the features, but don't really use it?

I think we should just ignore the trolls and let them die off, it works for me most places on the interwebz.

[–]Habean [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I guess I should have said, up vote, comment etc on post that are actually positive to the community. Troll post, I don't even give them the time of day. I remember when this sub first came out a few weeks before release. So much positive energy going around, it was great. Now... It can be a nasty pool of hate.

[–]InfiniteJestV 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going back to the dayz forums. I lurked there for a year before standalone was released...

[–]sqpantz 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (39子コメント)

There were plenty of other much more deserving instances that could of driven him away from reddit. It's disappointing that "the straw that broke the camels back" for him was a normal reaction to a questionable marketing decision made by his employer.

Unfortunately, he is the face of DayZ and will likely be taking blame for things that happen long after he has already left BI.

[–]Tomuchan 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The people who market DayZ have shown that they are out of touch with the way gamers react to things.

I tried to explain this to Rocket when there was a backlash for using a 5 day countdown timer for DayZ Mini. At the time I told him that the drama was mainly caused by the poor marketing strategy, not the product itself.

Once again, we're here due to some unnecessary drama caused by poor marketing. Only this time we've lost Rocket for good.

Fucking sucks man.

[–]scyth16Sniper in the mist -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you remember though DayZ isn't even supposed to go on sale so people lucked out by steam putting it on sale after the price went up anyway.

[–]Photolysis 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (32子コメント)

"Questionable marketing decision" is an odd euphemism for "criminal violation of consumer rights".

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you say the second one you get downvoted to oblivion and your inbox is filled with death threats.

[–]Photolysis 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Touché.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dean should be mad at BI, for making him and the dev team look like tools.

I know he didn't raise the price and immediately put it in "sale." BI did, and now everyone thinks poorly of them despite it being BI's fault.

[–]VenusBlueRicky Spanish [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Actually, this is not something that came out of nowhere. He talked about how the pricing model would work before Alpha was even available to the public. He said the price would go up as development progressed. The community of gaming on reddit is just full of a bunch of vile people who act entitled about everything, even when they are being ignorant about something. That thread on /r/gaming is just mainly a circlejerk of ignorant people with pitchforks who didn't bother to actually read anything about it, and keep claiming that nothing has changed and nothing is better or nothing has been added. It's all bullshit. This should have been expected by everyone. I think the mods should have done a better job at keeping people who post stupid, scathing comments about the devs out by banning them from this sub. It has nothing to do with fanboyism, and everything to do with uneducated hatred, ignorance and immature garbage.

[–]DatcoderCan't summon Rocket anymore -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, let's not use Zoe Quine tactics here. Death threats have been sent to both sides because some people are fucking crazy

[–]Vorrez [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

i felt like the discount was more like an warning as last chance to get it at that price but i don't really care this game could cost 60 dollars and still be worth it

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

In the same sense that stealing an expensive bicycle in California is a Felony that can get you sent to prison for life, if it's your third strike. Sometimes the law is stupid.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It's not even questionable. They simply ran afoul of a badly worded UK consumer protection law. It's hard to be underhanded and sneaky if you're talking about the price change in blog posts.

[–]Dylan_the_VillainUhh... Friendly? 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The important thing to remember is that swearing and calling people names strongly enhances your argument.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Also, addressing everyone with a condescending tone when it's clearly a (significant) minority of dickheads ruining it for everyone else.

[–]HerpJerseymuh immersion 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe now he can focus on developing this game and not replying to the vocal minority and getting in meaningless arguments.

[–]viktorlogiEx-Chernarus Defence Force 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think he was really involved in developing the game too much anymore anyway.

[–]1esserknown [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Didn't you repost the same bs about his cat? Now you have more time for work etc.

[–]HerpJerseymuh immersion [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

No, I didn't even know his cat died until I saw his Twitter feed yesterday.

[–]Creepermoss 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Cry about it. Or, better yet, throw a giant public hissyfit and quit reddit. Now you're as cool as your idol.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't understand why he victimized himself, its as immature as the minority who were incredibly negative

[–]racmit -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Imagine having a crowd of several hundred people CONSTANTLY demanding different things, and when you didn't get EVERY SINGLE THING done they all raged at you and called you terrible things. That's what rocket had.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd hire a PR guy and focus on developing a game.

Also I got a shit ton of hateful comments and death threats yesterday from you all for pointing out BI's horrible marketing tactic. You all are incredibly vile, especially the Dean fanatics.

One of you all wished cancer on somebody because they thought development was slow.

It's just a game, calm down.

[–]racmit -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not one to insult people or make threats. I disapprove of people who do this. I just think that a lot of people have trouble understanding what Hall was going through.

[–]TDuncker 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We all do, but even if we do, I'd imagine most of us wouldn't give a damn about people's hissyfit in this subreddit. We'd just reply to the good comments, ignore the shitty ones, and/or hire a PR guy.

Regardless of what people do is acceptable or not, I don't see the point in following up on it, instead of just ignoring it.

It's like having a kid in class not ignore that one jackass, but instead he quits the class and goes into another one, when it isn't very hard to just walk away.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

You all are incredibly vile

Seriously, you're a fucking idiot. Even if you got a hundred death threats, there are thousands and thousands of people on this sub. Yeah, we're all vile but you.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Point in case ^

Calling someone a fucking idiot, toxic community.

You know what I meant, the hardcore Dean worshipers that will kill their mothers before letting someone say something bad about Day Z.

[–]capecodcaperChernarus Quarantine Force 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The sub has over 112000 subscribers. Several hundred people complaining is hardly a drop in the bucket.

[–]ViqsFromMarsbasic survivor 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Problem is that people who are satisfied with DayZ or aren't whiney kids don't know about or rarely check /r/dayz

And there are two kind of people here:

  1. Minority, people who are passionate about DayZ, who follow development process and understand that Early Access is a new thing.

  2. Majority, people who come here to downvote and bitch about everything associated with DayZ, because they didn't understand "the Alpher Sign" on Steam page and after spending 100+ hours bitch that it wasn't worth it(if you spent 100 hours it was worth it, think about 50+ AAA title where you spend some hours and drop them).

I have spent 500 hours in DayZ and I'm satisfied with development speed and developer communications with community.

[–]Lethal_Papercut 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So let me get this straight...on a minority of people on a fan subreddit actually talk positively about the game & the rest shittalk it.

What do you think the rest of the gaming community is saying?

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

What do you think the rest of the gaming community is saying?

Who cares?

[–]PurpleDerpZOMBIES.NU 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is spot on.

[–]TheBishopGarry -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yup long live the minority

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

There's way more positive people than negative people.

The thing is Dean focused on the negative people.

The minority is the negative people.

Unless you're saying you're one of the negative minority.

[–]viktorlogiEx-Chernarus Defence Force 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People care way more about going out of their way to talk about bad shit than good shit, so it seems like the people who love this game are a minority.

[–]TheBishopGarry -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know that's not what I ment but in the post above it says minority is the positive (that's also true) because less positive people express it compaired to the negative.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The majority is the positive, the vocal minority is the negative.

Dean wanted to focus on the negatives. He'd always respond to the abusive comments instead of ignoring them.

[–]TheBishopGarry -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you may know more positive than negative then. But that's not the case for me.

[–]AmIMikeScore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree, but I feel like the opposite is true for the cesspool of festering shit that is /r/gaming.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a given, but in this subreddit it's the Dean fanatics that are the worst. They call you a cancer if you don't agree.

[–]AmIMikeScore 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its sad that they literally call you a cancer.

[–]racmit -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing is, the people who appreciate the game like me, and probably you, have almost no voice on the sub. I made a post about it and got so much shit as a result

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Maybe people give you (and the other guy) shit because you're being overdramatic and insulting to the "majority," which a "majority" of people that respond to you are going to be a part of.

You can't go "fuck all of you," and then wonder why everyone hates you. I mean, you can, I guess, if you're a fucking moron.

[–]Lorenzo0852I'm forced to post in this sub, pls send help. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What would be the majority of people on the forums complaining is the minority of the playerbase. I mean, even if every single person subbed here started "downvoting and bitching", it would still just represent 5% of the whole userbase.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It's okay, though, because "most of the people on this sub are negative" isn't even a true or verifiable statement. It's nonsense.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure I agree with those asspull statistics. Negativity may get the most reactions and replies, but it's definitely not the majority of users. That would look more like YouTube.

[–]Redlinewarrior 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Nobody forced Dean to use Reddit. If he wanted a "safezone" from shitstorms he should just have kept the feedback on Bohemias forum anonymously. Keep it professional and dont mix in personal emotions. I dont care if its Eugene or Dean or whomever who gives feedback. He chose Reddit but couldnt handle the pressure. Big fucking boohoo. Who cares.

[–]cohumi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree to an extent but this sub has been a cunt refuge for a while.

[–]chicains 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

TRUE TRUE AND TRUE

[–]SaphricPCGaming 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah. It's fucking incredible all the "SEE WHAT YOU DID YOU MADE POOR DEAN CRY" threads. Grow up.

[–]AmIMikeScore 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish everyone on the sub thought lime you. The worship and circlejerk over the devs is gross.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

They're pretty pathetic, too, but I'd rather see that than the armchair game-design/PR comments. Like anyone here has any fucking clue how to do his job. Hell, most people don't even seem to be that great at their own job.

[–]TheSoftestTacoつ ◕_◕ ༽つ Shitposting 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a difference between pressure & constructive criticizm and the shotposting thats been going on on this subreddit for the last year+

[–]kietze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nobody needs a safezone from "shitstorms" as long as these are suggestions or normal criticisms. but dean just doesnt wants to be the parent for all the kids anymore. I'm happy about all the support reddit gives and VERY lucky that I dont have to care about all the comments. a good dev team with dean ahead should and would. we paid a high price and are now cut lose from a golden line to the development of dayz

[–]Mirtastic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeap.

[–]galient5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's stupid. That doesn't absolve the subreddit (or any of the other subreddits) from being assholes. We should have felt lucky that the creator of the game was here on the discussion board we use answering our questions and replying to us personally.

[–]pbrunk༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ give nostalgia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The internet is comprised of something like 10% vocal assholes. Dean chose to predominantly interact with that subset of the community.

He could have ignored those people but instead he wrote thousands of comments arguing with them. It's a shame he burned himself out, but he was the one who chose to respond to those people.

[–]greybuscatStop complaining about the f*cking downvotes! [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Here we go, the judging starts. Now we can benefit from all of the experience of Redditors that have been project leads on AAA online multiplayer PC game projects. All none of you. Well, we had one, but he just quit...

[–]Solocov 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Wait...wait....wait, hold it there!

It is not the /r/DayZ communities fault...(just a little)

Go on /r/gaming /r/pcmasterrace and /r/games than you will understand Dean Halls decision...

I know our sub isn't the best and everyone here is professional ins software design, but at least we do not start a shitstorm like in the other threads.

Eugene harton, Brian hicks and even Dean hall stayed around he for a while... And generally they like /r/DayZ more than the Forums and other gaming related subs.

Hicks has always said that the forum is a much better place for discussion and has said a number of times that he doesn't like reddit. /u/T0NZ

And we all knew that it will happen sooner or later...

Edit: wrong information

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

There have been many idiotic shitstorms on this sub. The only difference is that there are far fewer people that view this sub than something like /r/gaming so the fires tend to get put out quicker and don't spread as fast.

[–]Solocov 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I meant something like that...

Also if the is a "storm" more people can control it, who follow the development.

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah you're right that the shit in /r/gaming was a special type of stupid I have not seen in a long time.

[–]lordaddament 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/gaming has no idea what they are even talking about

[–]en1mal"i'm a grenade" -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because most of the ranters have no affinity with DayZ (i doubt many of them even played it 20+hrs) in the first place and hating on Early Access because thats hip nowadays. Its so much easier to harass directly a dev team with actual personalities (eg. Dean, Hicks, Eugen) than indirectly a corporation like Ubi, EA, etc.

[–]lordaddament 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I get what you're saying. Whenever I see them say the game is broken I just say to myself "I played for like 4 hours last night was barely anything to justify its brokenness"

[–]T0NZI don't like you either. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Eugene harton, Brian hicks and even Dean hall stayed around he for a while... And generally they like /r/DayZ[5] more than the Forums and other gaming related subs.

Hicks has always said that the forum is a much better place for discussion and has said a number of times that he doesn't like reddit.

[–]Solocov 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry for misleading information!

[–]CndConnection 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You guys are apologizing for a dude who took on a huge project, received a lot of money to deliver this project, so far has delivered somewhat but still a farcry from what is promised, and then gave up communicating with his audience because of a smaller group of dissatisfied people.

This guy is inept, he is way over his head.

Man if I started this project and made as much money and saw this much fucking interest, I would close my ears to the haters who spew shit without constructive criticism. I would open my ears (or rather eyes lol) to those who post huge paragraphs to try and improve the game.

I would never, EVER, cut ties with the community unless the game was going to die and the project was over.

This game has been in alpha since Dec 2013 and still has major major gameplay breaking bugs like zombies going through walls and shit. We are constantly given excuses and the only actual improvements we see are for unnecessary things like new weapons and weapon animations.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this dev team is amature and they are over their heads.

Can't take the heat of the kitchen? which is just fucking comments that you chose to read or not....GTFO! Day Z needs a stronger leader.

Hate on me all you want but (Darth Vader voice) you know it to be true.

[–]Reutertu3 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Finally someone who isn't a clueless little kid.

[–]Solocov 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also it kinda feels like you actually leaved the sub for a long time... Dean wasn't as active since the last "breakdown". And everyone wasn't sure if he already deleted his account.

Hicks and harton are the new rocket2guns now and already were for more than a month...

[–]gangstaamilzd 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The meme was funny, is was ment to be a joke so shut up and give them your money

[–]Wilizi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/dayz sucks, but I think it was /r/gaming that broke the camels back. Comments in the thread about price lift were so brainless it is unreal.

[–]k0bra3eakAnyone in Cherno 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was /r/gaming that started it then our pubbies believed them and brough it here.

[–]Mirtastic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

..but asks yourselves, Did it matter? He was leaving anyways soo I guess he took this chance to finally depart. I wish him luck in the future but it was bound to happen, it was inevitable.

[–]RektCat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Negativity begets negativity. You're just spreading the poison with this post.

[–]ronnietracksuit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh come on, his every single post was upvoted like crazy, no matter how useless. He received a lot of love from this community.

[–]FlamingIceCaveNeed Helicopters! [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

Please read this in a whiny 12 year olds voice

DayZ Players in Q3 of 2013 -

"Give Alpher!, Give Alpher!" "Rocket we don't care if it is buggy, give Alpher!"

DayZ Players in Q4 of 2013 (Release of DayZ Standalone) -

"Rocket! Your game is so bad! Why can't you fix it all in a unreasonable time period!" "Rocket! This severe bug is game breaking! Fix it in 30 seconds or I'm never playing again!"

[–]resetes12 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Sadly it's true, people think this

[–]BahamutxD [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

This is the first thing it came to my mind when I discoreved what happened.

Internet, place for people to talk about anything pretending they know their shit, when they actually don't have a clue.

[–]cafernxd 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find his actions rather immature, childish, and very unprofessional. One thing that people need to realize is that not everyone is going to happy with you, no matter what you do. But when you delete your account because you don't like what people say, then your throwing a tantrum and you let them win.... and YOU forrman17, stop trying to justify his decision. Game developers receive all sorts of complaints all the time, does that make it OK for them to stick their fingers in the ears and ignore the everyone? No, you gather notes from what they say and you try to improve. You can also just ignore them, or not read any of the notes. True, the game is in alpha and there are going to be a lot of imperfections, there fore there are going to be a lot of frustrations. Don't complain when people complain, how else are the game developers to know what to fix or what the people don't like on the game...

[–]TommyWanslowly cooling off 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a post on top of the startpage. Post your opinion there or stfu

[–]BBQ_HaX0r 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dean, accepted money and put out a product. By putting out a product to the public and taking their money, he opens himself up to criticism. Especially when there are legitimate criticisms to his product. He is now upset that those same people who gave him their money are upset with his product and letting him hear it. Why should I feel bad? He intentionally chooses to engage with some of the lowest and most vile criticisms on this sub. That was his choice.

Yes, it's a shame we no longer have access to him here. But don't ya think he's acting slightly ridiculous here? Throwing a tantrum because people he chose to take money from and engage with drove him off when they were upset with his product. And don't you think the constant lecturing like this post might have something to do with why this sub is perceived as shit.

[–]Fried_Beans 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

no like i didn't think he cared about stuff like people pointing out bugs/flaws i think he cared when people told him to kill himself and that hes a scumbag

[–]HarrysoonBaked Bean Bandit 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're preaching to the choir here.

It wasn't this subreddit's fault. /r/gaming and /r/games were by far the worst. /r/pcmasterrace were more understanding, but still had a shitstorm about it.

[–]FredderichApples.... nuff said! 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Talking about the whole community eh? Not the first one and you will not be the last.

You say community as if we exist primarily of trolls and assholes... We just happen to have them as any big community has.

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Compare this community to that of Kerbal Space Program a game that has been in Alpha since 2011 or The Dead Linger if you prefer a game closer to that of DayZ. It's nowhere near the same and there is a real problem here.

This community got too big for its own good. This is a game that wont and cannot appeal to a large mainstream audience which means a great many people who bought or follow the game will become easily disenchanted.

I've played a shit ton of games and have never seen a community absolutely eat a development team alive like this one has. It truly is incredible and I believe it would be a good thing if 40% of the community just picked up their shit and rage quit to another game. The team has enough shit to deal with than to try to firefight ignorance on reddit.

[–]ffilps 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Compare this community to that of Kerbal Space Program a game that has been in Alpha since 2011 or The Dead Linger if you prefer a game closer to that of DayZ.

you can't compare that, because it's a completely different clientele. KSP is played by smart people interested in science/space/physics/mathematics, while dayz is played by many CoD players and 12-14 year olds looking for some PvP sucker punches. dayz is also played by a lot of other people, but i think these typical "shooter players" are the majority. and there's a HUGE gap between these two demographics.

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's true which led me to my conclusion that the community for this game is simply too large with skewed expectations as to what the final product will entail. It won't be fun for 12 year old CoD players looking for PvP sucker punches and eventually there will be another butt hurt scandal about how they got ripped off because they expected Elektro TDM in the final product.

The Dead Linger is a game in the same vein as DayZ with a much smaller community that manages its expectations to fit within the small dev team early access model game type.

I'm quite sure well over half of the DayZ community couldn't reach orbit in KSP. :D

[–]FredderichApples.... nuff said! 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am proud to say that i am with the half that did reach orbit :D

Fun game KSP.

[–]racmit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did also. Took me a long time though. All these early access games are amazingly better than some of the fully published AAA games.

[–]Fr33zy159 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Everyone here is over reacting. the community is allowed to complain and give feedback when a feature doesn't work as advertised.

Dean should really grow some thicker skin, he is a public figure and there will always be a very vocal minority hating everything that you do as a creator of any content.

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Which features aren't working as advertised?

It's an unfinished game.

When you buy the game there is a huge disclaimer about features not working and everytime you start the fucking game it says it may not work at all.

[–]Fr33zy159 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No need for hostility.

In my case, while having never touched standalone, I haven't been able to play since like a year ago in 1.7.3. The mod refuses to recognize that Arma 2 and OA are installed on my D drive.

I'm just saying there are two sides to it, and regardless of what was said, devs shutting themselves off and throwing a tantrum is just going to make the ignorant folks tantrum even harder.

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People like Zinc are why he left, say anything and people become hostile.

Funny enough the people defending Dean are the most hostile of the bunch.

[–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sorry for the hostility but this is the perfect example of the biggest problem we have on here.

People interjecting uneducated opinions on a subject that will fuel more of a shitstorm. You don't own the game, you haven't followed the game so you can't possibly form an opinion on the subject.

Of course there are two sides. There is fact and fiction. The fact is the game is working as well as advertised. From the steam store: "We strongly advise you not to buy and play the game at this stage unless you clearly understand what Early Access means and are interested in participating in the ongoing development cycle.”

The devs only came here for constructive and valuable feedback to help develop the game. When that ceases to exist there is no reason for him to be here anymore.

[–]Fr33zy159 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahh Yeah I understand that. You are absolutely right. I am a complete outsider on this. I legitimately just saw a post on gaming and thought to jump in with my own two cents.

You are correct. This is one of the few Alphas on Steam worth a Damn, most are utter crap, and I commend them for it. And I agree, negative feed back is often silly when the game works as intended.

But again, the dev just announcing "you guys are mean I'm done" isn't professional. IMO if he wanted to leave he should have just left, then if somebody brought it up a mod or dev could respond. It is one reason why Total Biscuit lost a lot of respect in my eyes for the whole "delete all YouTube comments leave my own subreddit" routine. I still like the guy, I still like DayZ and it will be awesome.

This will all blow over in about a week.

[–]_dgtL 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ladies, please. The internet is full of trolls and retards. You know it, I know it. Seems Dean didn't know that. He engaged in debate with every low-down disrespectful tard in this sub and got burnt out by it. Is it our fault that trolls gonna troll? It's the fucking internet. Get use to the assholes or leave.

[–]hobscure 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"or how about going ape shit when Dean wants to work on other projects" I was under the impression that for 15 euro's I had bought Dean's soul and a lifetime supply of pipsi.

[–]narchyI Left My Heart In Berezino 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just so you know, it was all the batshit crazies in /r/gaming and /r/games that Dean flipped the table at. Not here.

[–]NCDKorrigan 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the people here just made him nearly quit so he wasn't a very active poster here anymore.

[–]Yosonimbored 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As long as he doesn't cancel the PS4 version in 2020

[–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or the PCI final release in 2050

[–]pie_good_pie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

fuck him anyway

[–]CruelApe 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just fucking sad and I feel sorry for Dean...

The main problem is that the people talking shit were not even interested in the product,compared to the real fans who have faith and don't ask "WHEN CARZ GIB PLZ FAST!".

Recently I took it upon to basically talk with the people especially on /r/gaming which probably gave me cancer in various stages. Never in my entire life have I faced so many ignorant and just hateful people.

People just screaming that it's illegal and scummy to increase the price by 5$ and demanding a witchhunt with forks and torches and all that kinda stuff.

I thought Kotaku was the cancer of the soul,apparently it's /r/gaming and it's sensationalist asshole audience

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    [–]zkkaiser 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Well, if Dean and his dev's game wasn't a steamy pile of horse dung, people wouldn't be upset, but since it is, people are.

    [–]galient5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why are you here, then? If you don't like the game, don't complain about it in this subreddit, just don't pay any attention to it. Unless your hoping that the game is magically going to change to something that you like (hint: it's not), leave.

    [–]ArCaDe4twWill dance for beans 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    So what was the last straw that caused him to leave?

    [–]Draug_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This thread on R/gaming achiving 3000+ likes (Among other shit)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2nhzsl/scumbag_dayz/

    [–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Its a legitimate concern, no need for him to throw a hissy fit and victimize himself.

    But the shit storm should've been thrown at Bohemia rather than Dean.

    [–]viktorlogiEx-Chernarus Defence Force -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    His cat died just before this went viral. Not exactly going to be in the best state of mind.

    [–]ArCaDe4twWill dance for beans 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ah, thanks for providing this. Oh well. If E:D makes people pay more to get into Beta, noone cares. If DayZ does it the other way round to get more player feedback, everyone goes crazy (although that move was kinda weird to do the raise and sale thingie).

    What I don't understand is how this should in any way affect Dean? Surely this was not his decision, right? Doesn't Bohemia have the business people do this kinda stuff? And doesn't steam have the ability to DICTATE sales?

    Internet, not even once. lol

    [–]Kesuke 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This has already been discussed at length in the other dozen threads. I don't really see why you felt it was necessary to make yet another just to push the same message as others have already said hundreds of times.

    Deans a big boy. If he can't take criticism then this isn't the place for him.

    [–]JMaboardCaptain Sprinkles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    People want to circlejerk about being a deansciple. It wasn't even Dean's fault its BI.

    [–]Roxynbrotherhoodofconquest.com 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bunch of drama llamas.

    [–]AstroPilotI make sure everything we do is wrong -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It was like a 10 dollar price increase

    [–]k0bra3eakAnyone in Cherno 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    $5 actually.

    [–]Arsenic13 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The worst part of DayZ is the entitled community that early access fosters. They see an optional purchase as a ticket to complain about development. If we had to just wait for a full release, there wouldn't be these sort of people that say development is too slow or we're being scammed.

    Take some personal responsibility and understand that buying an early access game means you're buying an UNFINISHED game.

    [–]orangeh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Welcome to the internet.

    [–]Lrishjake 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He was leaving soon anyhow.

    Im sure that influenced him in letting the internet know that it had "won".

    [–]AmIMikeScore 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Can we stop circlejerking about how the devs can do no wrong? The developers need to get some thicker skin or find someone else to take the blame. Its really pathetic to see Dean and Rocket act like this. They made a mistake by doing what they did, whatever the intentions were. Now they cant handle the backlash from the community. Im nit saying its right to stalk him and send him rude messages, but come on.

    [–]Kirinshiku 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Dean AND Rocket? U wot m8?

    [–]L1cketyspl1t 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know Dean hall and that Rocket guy

    [–]AmIMikeScore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rocket did the same thing a few months ago. Did he come back or something?

    [–]OlakolaBeanz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    i dont even know whats all this about. all i see on the frontpage is constructive suggestions and videos celebrating new features and then in between one or two posts about how bad this subreddit is. where is the big sense behind it?

    [–]RadixxidaRNorthwoods Lone Wolf 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bye /r/dayz.

    [–]braineaters138 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So much drama

    [–]notsafety 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Would just like to point out it was a /r/gaming thread that got Dean so upset, but yes; this community could use some work.

    [–]41218124 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Walk it off dude.

    Honestly - why the fuck can't adults realize you don't have to read/respond/care about every stupid opinion in the world. I wish he hadn't deleted his account but I'm not going to sit here and feel the collective guilt just because he hasn't learned to have thick skin on the internet. Quit being melodramatic and let's talk about this game.

    [–]SirKillsalot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    If rocket had a tantrum and left reddit its his own fault. This place is no different to the rest of the internet. It isn't our fault he couldn't handle it.

    [–]Vittali 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What even happened?

    [–]galient5 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not to mention this sub is a poison to each other as a community.

    I made a post about my performance issues, because as of right now the game runs terribly on my decent-good hardware and someone actually got mad at me because they played the game at the lowest possible settings at 10 fps and they would love to play the game at higher settings if they got 10fps.

    So many assholes here, its ridiculous.

    [–]shepskiiirocket2cocks 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    MORE ANGER MORE YELLING

    [–]DaRealBacon [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    I'm glad he left, maybe he'll actually work on the game now. Raising the price right before a sale just because cars were added to experimental is shady and the fact that the community is ok with that is even worse.

    [–]MnemosynoSurvivor [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Right. Like people shouldn't be paid for their work. The price is going to go up the more work they put into it. That's been known for quite a while now.

    What's absurd is that you, among others, expect that to be any different.

    [–]762x39mm [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Dean plz If you wanted to post this you should've just used your original account.

    [–]NorthernWV [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Oh hey look, another thread saying the same exact thing. Good thing youre such a special dayz fan you need your own post.

    [–]DayZShane [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Grow up. Dean decided to get Reddit and no one forced him to get it either. If he can't handle the pressure then maybe he shouldn't have made the game. What did he expect? To get positive feedback and no trolls at all? The guy is a fool clearly. This is probably Dean making this fucking post!

    Thank god he is leaving, I guarantee the game will actually make progress without him. Him leaving is probably the best thing that will happen to the game.

    [–]the666partys [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Thank you, better than i ever could have worded it!

    [–]Wyrda [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    The people that agree with you are all nodding their heads, while the people that you're pandering to are still feeling that their malice and bile-spewing is justified because "Hurr dur I spent my own money on a game that is not complete and even though I knew this, I am entitled to getting a slow blow from all the developers while they fix every single bug within 2 days and if they don't it's because BI is just evil money-grabbers."

    [–]gmatic [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Maybe, just maybe, if the admins even attempted to moderate this place and clean up shitposts there would be some kind of intelligent debate here. Instead, we have people like /u/Redlinewarrior, just look at this beutiful comment chain.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/comments/2nnpno/congratulations/cmfbgps

    These kinds of total fucking douchebags are the overwhelming majority who post here. Sort by new and you will see nothing but shitpost after shit post. The mods here should be held responsible for allowing this place to become the cesspool of hate it is. They don't do a single thing to steer the sub in a positive direction.

    [–]BitmicroGood Lad [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    "This guy does not understand the internet. I have watched his comments around subreddits and forums for years, he argues with the lowest of the low just to try and get them to see his way. Discussing problems with people that hate your game will only validate their argument as they pull you to bits. The way to solve this problem is to distance yourself from these people and slowly address any valid concerns they may have. When someone screams for attention or demand that you have done the wrong thing, they are a voice in the wind until you validate them with a response. Literally if all of the /r/DayZ[1] subreddit shit on the game as a whole everyday all at once it does not make it true. Calling a table a chair does not make it a chair, its still a table. But Dean seems to hold the game as his baby child and defends it like nothing else. He does not understand how people work, how they think or how what he says hurts his game"

    SOURCE: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2nn15z/dean_hall_dayz_creator_deletes_reddit_after_abuse/cmf53ci

    [–]godly707 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Ohhhh SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY! Are you going to keep crying about it like some fucking little bitch? Get the FUCK over it and MOVE ON! Dean's is a bitch who cant handle the heat, so he left. QQ some more you whiny FUCKS!

    [–]bananapro [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Certainly I've seen a lot of complaining on the subreddit, I have complained as well. Dean usually handled it well so what happened that made him totally lose his shit? Link to that? I'd love to see it.

    [–]CluckerPuffRekt™ -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Someone says 1 bad thing about dean, he has a big fucking bitch fit. Every month he keeps saying he is going to delete his account. stop sucking his fucking dick and realize that this game has been out for a year and the have done fuck all. He hasn't done shit for this game or this community and everyone has a right to be mad at him.

    [–]shoejackman 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lol 1 bad thing? Even Im sick of the shit the devs have to put up with, every tweet and post is followed with abuse, even the tweet about his cat dying. I'm surprised he lasted this long on reddit. Being human and treating people with decency and respect, is not equal to sucking there dick. I think you need to realise that a year is nothing in game development, and to say they have done fuck all is a prime example of being a disrespectful ignorant asshole. The renderer itself has probably been worked on for most of that time. You only need to do a bit of research to figure these things out. People do have a right to be angry, but they should also have the responsibility to control that anger in a mature manner. Not by spewing hate filled messages. And if they are that angry maybe they should cut there losses and find a new game to play, instead of dragging the rest of the community down with them.

    [–]Schocke 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Everyone has the right to criticise the development or the game itself. The problem is its either rage posts about how we dont (didnt) have vehicles or sb claiming that the game didnt get better over the last year and how they only added chemlights, which is straight up not true.

    This still doesnt give anyone the right to insult any developer on a personal level, that has nothing to do with constructive criticism, its more like witchhunting

    [–]lBioTech 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Who gives a fuck? That whiny cunt doesn't know how to handle retards. It fucking says early fucking access when you buy it, so if retards cry about it, just ignore them and continue on your game. I mean this is internet 101, don't give them your attention. Oh well, he'll have some peace now I guess.

    [–]NuttyIrishMan93༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give Fresh Kiwi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But it wasn't this sub this time, it was all the idiots at /r/gaming, and /r/pcmasterrace (who I expected better from)

    If you look on /r/gaming they're still circlejerking about it, many of the comments there are rage-inducing

    [–]TreXeh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Its a Shame, but people do feel a bit ripped...

    How longs it been in Alpha/Pre release(Oh need a new engine) so that means alpha again...got ya!

    Really missed a trick bout a year and a half ago with these Buy the Pre release bandwagon!

    [–]wopperjoe[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ooooh yeah Im betting posts like this help

    [–]Riffhunter 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Watch out guys! This kind of posts are going to flood the dayz subreddit for sometime, so be fast if you want to grab some karma before this topic gets laid to rest!

    [–]BER1CSurvivor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    qq

    [–]CruelApe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Quality content

    [–]Devildog0491http://youtube.com/devildog0491 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not to mention the shit admins cough QuantumAI cough silence anybody who they feel they don't agree with and abuse their powers at the drop of dime. Pretentious fucks.

    Edit: Not all admins. Just the shit ones.

    [–]Naviwinsgg -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    people dont seem to understand what an alpha means.

    [–]theobod -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There its so many fucking shitheads in here. Fuck each and everyone of you who made Dean leave/if you complain about how people play the game. Fuck you.

    [–]xltbx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wow stfu it wasnt even this sub that was getting pissy it was all the gaming subs. Now shut your dick holster before I smash er ed in m8

    [–]CoolGuyMoz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The game has been out for a year. And it is nowhere close to what the mod is capable of. You have a 100 man development team and you cant get anything done?

    Dean promised vehicles by next november back in january, they reached their goal, sorta? The vehicles are shit, its only one type and it carries 2 people. Lets not forget that there is no explosion animation, or repairs/destruction.

    [–]Venomo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well...you sir, are an idiot!

    [–]therealmerloc -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Who are you talking to? No one in particular is to blame. This sudden abandonment of a social media platform isn't anyones fault specifically. Obviously it was the last straw for Dean and he left because of his own reasons.

    If it was really such a bombardment of negativity don't you think at least SOME of it had merit?

    You don't just push someone over the edge with one fell swoop, it takes a lot more than that. And if you have that much negative energy directed towards a game and its expectations then obviously the well deserved criticism is somewhat earned.

    [–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    " the well deserved criticism is somewhat earned."

    I'm curious which of the well deserved criticisms were earned?

    Just because the entire town goes on a witch hunt it doesn't mean that the witch needed to be killed because it was a popular thing at the time.

    Popular opinion =/= Fact

    [–]therealmerloc -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    If you can dismiss such fowl mouthed degenerates with opinions of little value like you can the posters on this sub why can't dean or anyone else for that matter. Its just a crazy witch hunting town right?

    News flash: some people don't have anything useful to say. I set myself up here but hear me out.

    I'm not even criticizing the game either, I'm a huge fan with hundreds and hundreds of hours but its alright to be critical of an unfinished product. You certainly shouldn't treat its creators as demi-gods? Its not done and some people are mad but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter to you or me or dean. My examples aren't really unknown so I wont provide and if I find more I will use the feedback tracker.

    OP mentioned how 'lucky we are' to have direct contact with the devs/creator. To me, if a creation isn't complete and the creator asked a group of people their opinions on his work in progress for a fee, then left because the opinions were distasteful, he is merely a coward or an anxious fool. I'm going to keep playing. I don't need dean for that .

    [–]shoejackman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nope the devs aren't demi-gods, they are people with feelings who should be treated as such. If I created a product and asked somebody what they thought and they said. "Well this needs some more work, but I like this" Id think ok fair enough I see your point and try and do something about it. But if they went "Its shit, I can't believe its taking you so long to achieve nothing" I would just think well... Fuck you guy. If I receive compliments from 10 people but get extreme hate filled "criticism" from 1, which is going to stick in my mind the most? And which would have a positive/negative effect. I don't think deans a coward or a god, hes just human being doing something he feels passionate about. People go way to far because there isn't any consequence to them, yet they don't care or think about the effect it has on others.

    [–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Well the problem comes in when you say that the criticisms leveled against Dean were well deserved and earned yet you don't even know what they were. It's much simpler to not say anything at all than to stoke a fire.

    I mean you did call him "a Pussy" yesterday and congratulated the idiots on /r/gaming for getting Dean to quit reddit. So really I don't think you have anything constructive to add to DayZ discussion on reddit at all.

    Until you have actual educated constructive criticisms to level against him I think it would be best to keep your mouth shut.

    [–]therealmerloc -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I don't think I congratulated them did I? Also it was sarcastic.

    Yes I called him a pussy but thats not news I JUST mentioned how him leaving the subreddit is far from commendable. You can't be a poster boy and a drama queen at the same time. If you really want my personal criticisms of the game I'd be happy to give you them. Is that what you want? Because I'm here to talk about Dean's absence as is everyone else, and like a normal alpha-tester I report bugs/game flaws in the feedback tracker. I am confident I do have many constructive opinions on how to improve the core game-play of Day Z. In fact your short-handed detective work into my reddit posts would have been further met into my already established opinions. I don't know what you mean by educated but I doubt you have more hours played than I do.

    [–]ZincLead"We rowdy" 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Yeah I'm sure it was sarcastic after calling him a pussy just a few minutes before that post. Good luck trying to prove that one.

    I'd love to hear examples of the well deserved and earned criticisms that were leveled against him in the /r/gaming shitstorm that's exactly what I've wanted to hear but I'm still waiting. You can't justify the witch hunt by saying "Well if everyone is saying negative shit it must have merit herp derp".