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Ebook tracker comparison (self.trackers)

neorean が 投稿

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I'm trying to decide on a tracker for Ebooks, as far as I know the best choices are MyAnonamouse and Bibliotik.

So if somebody could write a comparison between those two trackers including information like how they compare in terms of volume of content, what type of content either does better than the other, what site is more feature-rich, organization etc., I would be very grateful.

I would also appreciate any suggestions of other alternatives if anyone has any. I'm not looking for a tracker that is exclusively Elearning though.

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[–]scientifique 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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baconBits also has a pretty good selection of ebooks, and we recently implemented ebook grouping.

[–]netbyte 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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How can I start using baconBits? I can't login, because i have no idea how to sign up.

[–]knoland 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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/r/BaconBits

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    [–]vegenaise 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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    man, i've found that it's super easy maintaining a ratio on bibliotik. the trick is to upload an audiobook and guaranteed at least one person will snatch it. that gives you a huge buffer to play with. so long as you seed everything you download (which is super easy for ebooks), by the time you make any kind of dent in it, you should have hundreds of books that you're seeding making it incredibly easy thereafter.

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      [–]dontgivemeoops 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Don't have to be a request, I think there's a bot that will snatch any new content, at least for epub and mobi (not sure about audiobook) CMIIW.

      [–]fratdaddyZC 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Absolutely, but you'd be surprised at how many people don't get the idea of uploading. There are so many great guides made for maintaining a ratio, but so many folks think that seeding is enough, when in reality that will only get you half way on places like what and bib

      [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      That sounds great.

      My connection isn't really good enough to compete with the seedboxes on almost any tracker so filling requests and uploading content is how I maintain ratio anyway. I also like to feel like Im contributing more to a tracker than just a little seeding. And as you said; audiobooks are much larger than Ebooks and I don't download audiobooks.

      Guess I'll work towards getting 500 snatches on BTN for the Bib recruitment requirement.

      [–]neorean[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      Ok, well, I joined MyAnonamouse and I have to say... I'm not very impressed.

      I like that it is so easy to maintain ratio, but I don't understand why the site doesn't just switch to a ratioless system. The bonus point system is already set-up for a ratioless system and getting bonus points/upload credit is so easy that it may as well be ratioless.

      Being so easy to maintain ratio is good for an Ebook site because Ebooks are small and so not many seeders are required. However, since having lots of seeders isn't important but always having at least one so that the torrent doesn't die is, I feel the system should reflect that and incentivise seeding torrents with few/no seeders more.

      The ratio system isn't really a problem though, it works pretty well.

      What I don't like though is the organisation and layout of the site. Visually it is unappealing and looks messy and amateurish.

      It does have lots of categories which is nice, but I don't think the torrent organisation is good at all.

      There are no standards for torrent naming so naming conventions vary wildly, descriptions are equally unregulated and disorganized varying from great to non-existent.

      There don't seem to be any rules regarding duplication, quality control or content packing either. For some popular things there are many different torrents packed together in different ways.

      Given that Ebooks are released in various different editions and in various different formats, it would make a lot of sense to use torrent grouping and duplication/trumping/organisation rules and standards.

      Finally, and I'm guessing this is probably just me not using the search function properly or making some other mistake... but it doesn't seem to have some really obvious content that you would expect it to have.

      For example (again, this is most likely a mistake on my part); they don't seem to have any Ebook for The Lord of the Rings, which is of course absurd as it is easily one of the most famous books ever written. I'm sure it is there I'm just not looking properly, so if someone could correct me and point out what I'm doing wrong I'd appreciate it.

      I'm probably just spoilt by Gazelle based trackers seeing as all the other trackers I'm on use it. Is Bibliotik any better on these issues? Are there any other Ebook trackers that are better in these areas?

      I guess what I am really asking is is there a tracker that does for Ebooks what What.CD does for Music, BTN does for TV or PTP does for movies?

      [–]voodoopenguin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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      MAM is completely hideous, but has good content. Bib is considered the best. Very plain layout, but better organized. If you are PU+ on some reputable trackers like what or btn, then getting an invite is as easy as checking out the recruitment thread. If you want to see what it looks like, go read some tracker review with screenshots.

      [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      Yea, Bib will be my next stop.

      I'm PU at BTN, just gotta reach the 500 snatches requirement for Bib.

      If Bibliotik doesn't satisfy then I'll just have to find a non-bittorent solution.

      [–]cracked22 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      any Tolkein book is on the banned list - there are a few authors that are banned (legal reasons i'm sure).

      [–]neorean[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      That seems totally illogical.

      The entire reason that private trackers exist is to group together people who want to share and distribute copyright material in relative safety, which they are banned from doing due to legal reasons.

      When your website exists solely to aid in what is an illegal activity, why on earth would you ban certain material for legal reasons.

      MyA, with it's banning of certain content, ease of access, pointlessly easy ratio system and total lack of organisation or quality control standards, seems to me to just be a public tracker in private tracker's clothing.

      [–]cracked22 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      I agree, but IIRC it is in the upload rules.

      [–]Sj660 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

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      I guess if by "what What.CD does for music [etc.]" you mean "is the best" then probably bibliotik. If by that you mean, difficult to maintain a ratio, a lot of people who run the place that act like you're a piece of human shit and you should be sucking their dicks every five seconds for the blessing of letting you copy other people's shit, then the answer is probably "everywhere except MaM."

      You can diss MaM for whatever reasons, but at least the people who run it are nice and helpful.

      [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      I didn't mean to cause any offence.

      From what I have seen in the forums and IRC at MyA, they definitely have the friendliest atmosphere I have seen on a private tracker. Probably because their rules are designed with that as the biggest priority with their biggest rule being along the lines of "Don't be rude or do/say anything that could be considered offensive".

      Personally though, that's not what one my biggest priorities when it comes to private trackers, I also don't like censorship and prefer freedom of speech.

      [–]Sj660 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      I'm not offended, I just think that it's about three things: content, content, and content. Some trackers are like snobby restaurants: the food is good, but the waiters insult you. Well, there are plenty of really good restaurants where they're friendly.

      And, since we're talking about a private bittorent tracker and not a government, free speech isn't really a thing. It's important that we have free speech to criticize the government, but if you haven't noticed using reddit and other places, the level of discourse can quickly degrade to troll2.

      MaM has great content. Period. Full stop. End of my point. The fact that it's environment is meant to mimic a rave in the middle of the desert is besides the point.

      [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      Freedom of speech is equally important for a government or a private tracker. After all, the staff at a private tracker are a governing body for that particular private tracker, and without freedom of speech the private tracker can't grow and improve from the feedback given by its users.

      My priorities are exactly the same as yours, it's all about the content! I believe quality of content comes from standards of organisation and quality control.

      I have always found staff to be very friendly and helpful on all the trackers I'm on, but maybe I've just been lucky.

      [–]Sj660 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      The staff at a private tracker are, in a very charitable reading, still a private organization, which, in the US at least has a very limited requirement to tolerate "free speech." At worst, they are an underground operation that anyone accessing has a lot of temerity to complain about their "rights" regarding. They are in no way a governing operation.

      With no forums or anything, with no speech at all, a good tracker will do just fine if it has the goods. If it doesn't, being a liberated as reddit will do it no good.

      [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      I don't think that is true at all.

      A private organisation exists solely for it's own personal gain; the maximisation of profits.

      A private tracker is quite a different beast in that it's goal is to benefit everyone that uses it. So it would seek to do that as efficiently as possible.

      The most efficient way to improve something is through co-operation amongst people who share the same goal. This cannot happen in a private organisation as people in different hierarchical positions in the organisation will have different goals. With a private tracker though, all it's members have the same goal which is to improve the tracker by increasing it's volume of content and making it more feature-rich.

      As for your example of a tracker with no community; if the tracker has good staff running it then I'm sure it would do just fine, but it would no doubt be able to improve faster and more efficiently if it had a community behind it.

      [–]FLOWAPOWA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

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      ebookvortex is decent, nowhere near MyA or Bib, but open

      [–]brandon7s 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

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      We're also pretty good at filling request for specific books there.

      [–]craniumslows 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      I have spent many long hours to get my ration decent at ebook vortex but not made much use of the community how should I get started ? I have a few books I just cannot find.

      [–]brandon7s 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      There is a request forum.

      [–]craniumslows 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      Cool thank you or linking.

      [–]nunaguna 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

      I feel like a newb here, however, I've been drinking enough not to care: without open registration, or record of my ratio from demonoid...How do I gain access to MyA or Bib?

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        [–]cdubbs44 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        I'm in the same boat. Do yo know how I can get on MyA or Bib?

        [–]fratdaddyZC 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Ratio's from demonoid were calculated inaccurately, and therefore, are not very reputable when coming to 'ratio proof screenshots.'

        The way you get into MA is through there interview system. They talk about it and link to places on their front page.

        The way you get into bibliotik is through PU threads in places like what, BTN, PTP(maybe?), etc.

        I suggest going for MA right now, since holding a ratio there is cake.

        [–]djcurry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        PM me with an email if you want an MyA invite

        [–]cracked22 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        there is a secret code to get a MyA interview right on their website if you look around for a couple minutes.

        Interview takes about 10 minutes, and is pretty simple.

        [–]henbenley 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        I would suggest bibliotik or bitspyder. Both are more e-learning but also contain a good amount of other e-books and such. I have both and tend to use bibliotik more often.

        [–]BobbleBobble 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Yeah, but bibliotik invites are harder to come by, in my opinion. I was an ex-demonoid guy too, already got on bB and MyA and have 5+ ratios, but hitting a wall trying to get bib

        [–]voodoopenguin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        i know that what and btn have recruitment for bib, that could be an avenue to take.

        [–]fratdaddyZC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        bB might have a recruiting thread for pu's

        [–]voodoopenguin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        bB doesn't have a recruitment thread for bib.

        [–]fratdaddyZC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Than I stand corrected. Thanks

        [–]henbenley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        I realize that I got lucky as I was able to get both bibliotik and bitspyder without trying much. I've tried for myanonamouse but haven't had any luck on it.

        [–]BobbleBobble 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        You mean tried for an invite? I think I have enough points for one, I can invite you if you pm me your email.

        [–]djcurry -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Wat's bB?

        nvm figured out tat its baconBits

        [–]djcurry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        This isn't a tracker but this site has a good collection of books.

        http://www.viprasys.org/vb/

        http://www.freebookspot.es/Default.aspx

        [–]Sj660 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        I'm on most of the ebook trackers as that's pretty much the only thing I torrent. Depending on what you're after, you're best bets might be to look at the guide on the right hand side and try certain web sites and IRC before worrying about getting into private sites.

        Almost anything you're looking for is going to either be (a) on the methods I just mentioned, (b) available by request at an easier ratio site like MaM. People can diss it, but it has a lot of stuff.

        Bibliotik is probably the best on average, and its users have a lot of resources to fill requests, but new and popular releases are going to be everywhere....

        The most interesting stat to me would be "unique ISBNs." My guess would be that the winner is in that guide and isn't a tracker.

        [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        That is pretty much what I have realised.

        I've been going through the Ebook post in the sidebar and I've found Library Genesis to be hands down the best site for Ebooks, it is very well organised, way more content than anywhere else, hardly any duplicated content and is the only place I have found that uses ISBNs.

        I find it odd that there isn't an archive-style ebook tracker where everything is highly organized, sorted and quality-controlled. Especially considering the lengths some trackers go to in making sure that music or movies are of the highest quality and conform to various standards. Why does nobody do the same for Ebooks?

        [–]Sj660 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        There are sites with good organization and quality control, but I think the reason is simple: ebooks are more reasonably priced in the real market so there is less demand for piracy. iTunes certainly cut into music piracy. And so much software is free that prices have gone down, especially in the mobile apps market.

        But that's only part of it. Another part of it is that, so far as I know, no major, highly anticipated book has been leaked on the Internet prior to its release date. Yet another part is that I don't think that many people yet use ebooks at all. Some do on Kindles, but it shocks me how few people use their iPads for it.

        Also, in the US at least, people are used to the concept of libraries. Software rental didn't exist most places prior to a few years ago (I think there was a chain in Oregon in the 80s), neither did music rental. So, you had software and music as things people were trained to buy, and older movies and books as things people were trained to rent and buy.

        Now for anyone that cares, libraries provide decent ebook access and most colleges have pretty kickass collections online as well.

        Combine all of the above with the fact that I think aside from a few bestsellers and classics, books can get into massive numbers and very limited interest. There are probably thousands of books that only 1 person would download; maybe even zero people would download. In the para-economics of tracker ratios, that doesn't work too well... and I think MaM's points system primes the pump in regards to that.

        [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        All very good points and I think you are right, the vast majority of people just aren't ready for the digitization of books yet.

        It is a great shame that we evolve so much slower socially than we do technologically.

        [–]neorean[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Thanks for all the responses.

        Could anyone tell me how MyA and Bib compare when it comes to organisation of content and ease of use?

        I like trackers that are laid out well and are a pleasure to use.

        [–]stewedapples 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        They're both good in the areas they're best at: MyA's organisation works really well for fiction, and Bibliotik's for non-fiction. They're both pretty easy to use/navigate for what they're good at, and a bit of a cow for the other.

        [–]fratdaddyZC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        MA might be ever so slightly better in the e-learning category, but both trackers have a bunch of material and outstanding community. You'll develop an appreciation for either/both.

        [–]AntDogFan -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Would these sites be good for university textbooks? I'm so broke so anything that might help me to delay buying books until I have to would be a big help. Also is it possible for someone to provide me with an invite?

        Since demonoid died I've been a bit lost for a decentish site for torrents :(

        [–]rick_2047 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        Depends on what you want.

        [–]AntDogFan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        Will mainly be history ebooks but I would like fiction as well since I'm a huge reader

        [–]rick_2047 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        You would most probably like MaM.

        [–]Nomad93 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        I'd recommend Bib for academic titles, especially in the humanities.

        [–]AntDogFan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        How does one go about getting an invite for bib?

        [–]Sleisl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        The most consistent way to do so is gain Power User status on a tracker like What, and then take advantage of their invites forum.

        [–]AntDogFan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Noob and stupid sounding question but; what or where is What? :)

        edit: found a link to What.cd in the sidebar but the site is down, is that the one you meant?

        [–]voodoopenguin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        The site is not down. Go to www.whatinterviewprep.com and study up a bit, then take the interview.

        [–]Sleisl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        ごめんなさい。これは既にアーカイブしてあり、もう投票はできません。

        Yeah that's how I got my bibliotik invite. What is the best music tracker around. Kind of hard to build ratio on, but it's easier once you get started.