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[–]Dabee625 297 ポイント298 ポイント  (112子コメント)

So many people in this thread are calling Matt Damon a pretentious douche, I really don't get it. If you watch the video, all he is saying is people need access to water. Is that not true?

Oh, but he's a celebrity. He must be an asshole, then, just trying to push some image. He doesn't really give a shit about anyone's access to water.

Even if that were true, he's helping a great deal. Matt Damon is a celebrity, and as a celebrity, people will listen to him. He's not saying he's a revolutionary scientist that just came up with this amazing idea that people need to drink water to live. He's using his celebrity status to push awareness, which can really help countless people.

As a celebrity, he has a huge platform, and he is choosing to use it to promote a humanitarian nonprofit he co-founded. What a fucking asshole.

[–]themelephant 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (4子コメント)

But if you say Matt Damon is being a douche you can make it all the way to the top of the page!(This was sarcasm.)

Edit: I guess saying he's s douche doesn't make it to the top anymore.

[–]Atwenfor 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (23子コメント)

It's a cool thing among schoolchildren and overgrown man-children to hate on celebrities for the fun of it, even if they are actively promoting an absolutely common sense cause. It's considered edgy humor and/or a bit of "deep socio-political insight". That's the way things work.

"DAE Matt Stone and Trey Parker nailed his true nature in Team America? 'MAAAAAT DAAAAAMON', hahaha!"

[–]snowden_le_hero 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Certain people dislike Matt Damon because he has voiced political views that are contrary to and critical of their own.

[–]Katastic_Voyage 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He has an individual opinion?! What a jerk for using his brain and not coming to the exact conclusion I did!

Why can't these sheep wake up and act like the sheep I want!

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    [–]lip2nose 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't understand the hate either. Here is a celebrity using his popularity for a good cause and you shit on his charity? Shameful! There are too many famous people who do nothing but party all the time and are horrible role models for everyone. Yet they get more attention based on that fact. My thoughts on helping the poor have been "you can't solve poverty with solving greed". Fresh water and sanitation has a lot more progress possibilities.

    [–]CEOhthatsright 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (16子コメント)

    No, that doesn't make him an asshole. You know what does? Being filthy rich and blasting people for not accepting equality while still holding onto his own disproportional wealth.

    A middle-class guy who is opposed to more welfare because he feels his taxes are high enough is blasted as being greedy, but a wealthy liberal has praise heaped upon him for speaking out against poverty even though he's holding onto tens of millions of dollars.

    [–]snex00 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Matt Damon has been on record as saying his taxes need to go up. Well here's the good news. He can pay all the extra taxes he wants, fully voluntarily! https://www.pay.gov/public/home

    Will he? Doubt it!

    [–]EvilOldHausFrau 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It always seems like this tiny tidbit is overlooked. If you feel that guilty for having money and feel the government can make better choices with it then you, pay more. Its your choice.

    OR: You can donate, whatever makes you comfortable, to a cause you connect with, and actually does some good. E.G Fisher House: https://www.fisherhouse.org/about/financials/give-with-confidence/

    They also have links to charity verification sites.

    [–]JPSYCHC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He does pay more, but instead of doing it in the form of taxes, which is quite literally NOT A THING, he does it through private humanitarian causes.

    So, he, and most wealthy liberal celebs, does give a lot of money back. Just not necessarily to the government. So what is your point? Because he's rich he has no right to have an opinion on fairness?

    [–]mokdemos 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    God I hate this stupid argument.

    Even if every rich person that agreed, voluntarily gave the treasury their money it wouldn't fix the issue.

    Quit parroting illogical stupid arguments.

    [–]JPSYCHC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He does donate millions of dollars, just not via taxes. What is your point?

    [–]GaslightProphet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's also donating tens of millions of dollars. But as an aside -- what percent of the US budget do you think is going to foreign aid?

    [–]JPSYCHC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'm not sure what you are implying he should do?

    [–]statueofmike 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If a celebrity says/does something mildly intelligent, sophisticated, or socially responsible, people who build their self-image on those traits have to publicly establish superiority over the celebrity.

    [–]iHaveMoreGunsThanYou 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's pretty clear he's not some bandwagoner. He works with Water.org a ton and doesn't just do a commercial and then feels good for the rest of his life. He's committed and it's really made me respect him.

    [–]critically_damped 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think it's a proximity doucheness judgement... he's spent so much time with Affleck that people assume he's at a similar brain-level.

    This can be combated by pointing out that Sarah Silverman is an excellent judge of character.

    [–]RedHeavenLive 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because people do positive things, big or small, always have to deal with being called down by people who live life doing nothing.

    [–]Penmanship007 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Would a DOUCHE dump toilet water over his head while being video taped?!?! Yes? Well I stand corrected.

    [–]FisterMantaztic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How do you like them apples?

    [–]analrapist27 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    your mom has a huge platform.

    [–]DMXT4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think it's because Matt Damon spreading the word about water shortage and poverty is a bit like a guy looking down from the sundeck of his 20 million dollar yacht and demanding that something be done for the poor folk.

    It's just comical somehow.

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      [–]dr_bloodmoney 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Great example of ad hominem right here....this thread

      [–]FezPaladin 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      One of the things that distinguishes civilization from barbarism is how it manages its water and its waste.

      [–]Alexmarrs 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I have enormous respect for this man, and as elementary as it seems, it is over looked.

      [–]sushicidaltendencies 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Tough crowd. I've haven't seen Redditors act like assholes en masse like this in a while. What did Matt Damon do to anger you so bad? Release a free album on iTunes?

      [–]EmpatheticBankRobber 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Worse, he lied about his planet being able to sustain life. What a dick.

      [–]Framp_The_Champ 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      No kidding. I've never seen conservativism so upvoted on reddit.

      There's comments actually calling his statement out of touch liberalism, and they've being upvoted.

      How out of touch do you have to be to disagree with the sentiment that people need water, and they need somewhere for their shit to go?

      [–]dsi411 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They're acting like the people in the Yahoo! comments.

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        [–]moustachiooo 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Thanks, Matt - this is just like What Bishop Desmond Tutu said a couple of decades ago - We can never solve poverty without ending desperation.

        Both good quotes and I hope something is done for the have-nots as they have zero representation in Congress or elections. Sad but true!!

        [–]catalyzt64 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        When he said that part about the 13 year old girl in Haiti saying she would use the time she got back to play it made me cry a little.

        We are so fucking privileged and blessed in this country (US)

        [–]xsarahwhitex 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Why is everyone here putting this down? Those negative thoughts are the exact reason things that need to be done in this world don't happen.

        [–]joe-king 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Reminded me of a heroin study I read about in england. People that did not have to spend all of their time procuring functioned at work and at home.

        [–]ac34842 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yes sir, I have been in many third world countries. Getting fresh water is hard. They have a thing called aqua guard in one of the cities I stayed at which gives the house fresh water for only 1 hour during they day which we collect in a pot. It's not easy living. The only easy access to water we have is getting fresh bottled waters from the stores. This fix is not easy...

        [–]Def-not-a-throwaway 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The YouTube comment section is starting to look pretty good after reading through this...

        [–]moustachiooo 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (9子コメント)

        Whoa, the comments here are unbelievable - Are you guys missing the point Matt Damon is making - we have a serious lack of powerful people taking a stand against where our country is headed and this is the rubbish the commenters have put out - Shameful!

        We need more outspoken actors like Matt Damon, Penelope Cruz and George Clooney

        [–][deleted] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You won't solve either without solving corruption.

        [–]AT-JeffT 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Serious question: Do the people of third world countries not understand sanitation or just don't have the means to achieve live a sanitary lifestyle? IE is it an education issue or resource issue?

        [–]yoda17 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Both. It was not a known problem even in the wealthy western world until the 1800's. And once it's a known problem (to the residents), what are they going to do about it, go build a water treatment plant with regular deliveries of Chlorine and Flouride?

        As an experiment, go camping and don't take anything with you. That's what it's like to live in a big part of the world.

        [–]autowikibot 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Section 6. John Snow of article Germ theory of disease:

        John Snow was a skeptic of the then-dominant miasma theory. The germ theory of disease pioneered by Girolamo Fracastoro had not yet achieved full development or widespread currency, so Snow did not understand the mechanism by which the disease was transmitted. He first published his theory in an 1849 essay On the Mode of Communication of Cholera. Despite continuing reports, he was awarded 30,000 French francs for this work by the Institut de France. In 1855 he published a second edition of his article, documenting his more elaborate investigation of the effect of the water supply in the Soho, London epidemic of 1854.

        Interesting: Germ theory denialism | Louis Pasteur | Miasma theory | Rudolf Virchow

        Parent commenter can toggle NSFW or delete. Will also delete on comment score of -1 or less. | FAQs | Mods | Magic Words

        [–]Homozygote 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's both. We really take for granted the ability to flush our shit away.

        [–]Titan614 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Serious answer: it's a bit of both. E.g. Iraqis just toss their trash out when out in the desert. Srsly, many families will camp but just leave their trash there. I was struck in Egypt by, well, that's just how things are in "this area" or "that area", we have nice "areas over here" - but still dump raw sewage into the local bay (yep!) So there is identification but no real motivation, most sit around and wait on the government to handle it - not best approach.
        As to water, they can and do, drink from streams and rivers that would severely sicken or kill the average Westerner. I learned their way of living is neither good or bad, it's just the way they are and have been for generations. They change what they want, when and where they want to. In summary: just leave them be, why do we need to meddle? Change is slow, let them do it on their time table, not ours.

        [–]ispeelmydrink 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        MATT. DAMON.

        [–]WickedVocalist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Matt Damon is one of the few people in Hollywood with any real intelligence.

        His narrative in the documentary 'Inside Job' was even more impressive then his critical roles in the 'Bourne' series as well as Rounders.

        Not many US actors, and far fewer 'pop' industry musicians have the capacity or the head space to do anything requiring even a modicum of intelligence.

        Mr. Damon is a refreshing diversion from the vacuous inanities of Hollywood's more frivolous and vapid participants.

        Water and Sanitation is one of my human rights 'platforms' if you will. Few if any Hollywood entities will pay such a one as this, especially during an expose of corruption including entities as big as Wall Street or as incidentally small as wage theft or laundering investment securities in umbrella shadow 'side dish' corporations by partners of OC and LA Weekly. In industries such as independent music or documentaries who support such causes get ignored and shunned, conveniently underpaid, not paid at all, or even entrapped. I wish Americans paid to cast more people like him, and cared about relevance over fake, fluffy propaganda.

        14.5% of Detroit is water delinquent, on the home front water utility infrastructure have become 'unsustainable' in Detroit. That put poverty into a whole new spotlight and all the haters here who bash him for sticking up for a huge, under represented cause will meet up with karma..

        [–]MiyegomboBayartsogt 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (10子コメント)

        I thought you couldn't solve poverty without the disregarded masses taking over that huge floating space station.

        [–]Fsoprokon 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Nobody would know that. Nobody saw the movie.

        [–]lonely_and_lost 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Please tell me which movie are you talking about.

        [–]Homozygote 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Enter Elysium... God I hate people.

        EDIT: derp, it's just called Elysium. I was thinking of the YouTuber.

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            [–]AtomicClown 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOtCkSBxrdQ

            Inbetween saving the world and his film production schedule, Matt Damon does have time for other pursuits...

            [–]Anttoni_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            No! We don´t solve poverty like that. We have to do something for the population growth.

            [–]RiffyDivine2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Be nice if something was done about that but then you get to hear people yelling about personal freedom and the right to have eight kids.

            [–]medicinthehouse 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            this comment section is reddit in a nutshell. you have 2 types of comments.

            1. matt damon

            2. matt damon sucks

            [–]HamBiscuit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Shouldn't this dovetail with water rights being a human right instead of the private property of those who have attempted to monopolize global water supplies for their own gain?

            [–]snex00 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            If water is a "human right" and not private property, who is going to clean and transport water to the people that lack it?

            [–]asfandyaar 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (25子コメント)

            "Celeb recycles old development truisms, makes top headlines."

            [–]dopadelic 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            He's actually done something about it rather than just make an obvious statement.

            [–]Gullex 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "Celeb uses celebrity status to raise awareness of the challenges of ending poverty"

            [–]FreakyCheeseMan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            He's getting some attention drawn to the issue, and he's doing it accurately - addressing the underyling infastructure concerns that get overlooked. This is exactly what celebrities should do.

            [–]NewTooRedit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            While you sit on Reddit and bitch about anything and everything you can.

            [–]lonely_and_lost 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Perfect reply - http://www.reddit.com/comments/2jx4sp/matt_damon_you_will_never_solve_poverty_without/cln0xpi

            He is supposed to make top headlines.

            [–]dyrak 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (18子コメント)

            Or, "Celeb makes obvious statement and hailed as political genius."

            [–]Modevs 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            You're mistaking the message for the wrapping if you think that's what's going on here.

            Matt Damon has been at this campaign for years trying a variety of tactics. He's been throwing himself, his money and his time at this trying to do some actual good.

            He's not just spouting out altruisms, he co-founded water.org (a highly rated charity) and has been acting as the celebrity face for a cause he believes in using the best methods he's able to.

            Case in point:

            "Had I stayed with just drilling wells, I'd have reached thousands of people at this point, but by the end of next year we'll hit 3 million people that we've reached this way," Damon said.

            It's disheartening to see people nitpick at a celebrity who is using his fame to do something good for the world.

            [–]yoda17 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            The #1 thing that can be done to reduce over population is to reduce child mortality. The #1 method of reducing child mortality is clean drinking water. I'm involved with an organization that just spent its yearly food budget for one kid who got cholera from bad water.

            [–]Jawdan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            reduce over population is to reduce child mortality

            Can you explain how that works, please?

            [–]zotquix 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "Man misreads reddit post, thinks hailstorm is fault of evil genius."

            [–]lonely_and_lost 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Perfect reply - http://www.reddit.com/comments/2jx4sp/matt_damon_you_will_never_solve_poverty_without/cln0xpi

            He is supposed to make top headlines. Nobody is calling him a genius.

            [–]gentlemandinosaur 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (12子コメント)

            Or Yahoo pays redditads to put up some shit interview that really doesn't push the agenda it is touting.

            Maybe they should just donate to the The H2O Africa Foundation instead.

            [–]seven3true 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

            Matt Damon hates poverty. Check out our top 10 best cities to see pretty sidewalks. Are you fat? It may be because of the top 10 reasons you're doing you income taxes wrong. Alyssa Milano breast feeds. How to load a dish washer. Watch someone break their iPhone 6.

            oh, sorry.... got caught up imagining yahoo headlines....

            [–]Suga_H 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Well, you got me with "Watch someone break their iPhone".

            [–]seven3true 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            it's a 2 sentence article with a 10 second vertical video of a kid dropping his iPhone 6+. but has 55,000 comments about how much the blogger sucks and how much iPhone sucks.

            [–]lonely_and_lost 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Not the breast feeding? What's wrong with you?!

            [–]quitar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Or "People tricked into microwaving their iPhone by hacker 4Chan"

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              [–]GaslightProphet 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Maybe they should just donate to the The H2O Africa Foundation instead.

              I think the idea is the ad generates more revenue than Yahoo would otherwise be able to give to the cause.

              [–]BlackandNotAngry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Or maybe they could fund the planes to carry African children around the continent, creating clean water with their tears.

              [–]Thr0wnAWAY_40404 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Hey maybe just maybe humans arent meant to live in the african wilderness in 2014.... respect nature because it is also a part of yourself.

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                [–]nyomythe 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                "The cure for poverty has a name, in fact: it's called the empowerment of women. If you give women some control over the rate at which they reproduce, if you give them some say, take them off the animal cycle of reproduction to which nature and some doctrine—religious doctrine condemns them, and then if you'll throw in a handful of seeds perhaps and some credit, the floor of everything in that village, not just poverty, but education, health, and optimism will increase. It doesn't matter; try it in Bangladesh, try it in Bolivia, it works—works all the time. Name me one religion that stands for that, or ever has. Wherever you look in the world and you try to remove the shackles of ignorance and disease stupidity from women, it is invariably the clericy that stands in the way, or in the case of—now, furthermore, if you are going to grant this to Catholic charities, say, which I would hope are doing a lot of work in Africa, if I was a member of a church that had preached that AIDS was not as bad as condoms, I'd be putting some conscience money into Africa too, I must say." --Christopher Hitchens

                EDIT :: Thank you golden person out there!! I'm blown away!

                [–]P00RL3N0 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You'll never solve poverty without the ability to move freely from one country to another.

                [–]Hindsight3020 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                ITT: Turn back now, angry neck beards oh god one of them grabbed a hold of my foot AHHHHH! they just hate him because- jesus christ one of them just severed my achilles- they ain't hi-

                (Crunch)

                [–]iHaveMoreGunsThanYou 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I don't live with my parents but they always insist on giving me Christmas gifts. Last year for my birthday I had them donate a full cleft palate surgery for a child via Operation Smile. This year I'm thinking Water.org for christmas.

                I don't say that to be snarky. The feeling is pretty incredible. Instead of blowing all that money on fast food and ammunition, we literally paid for a kid to have surgery on probably the biggest thing affecting his life. And if you visit Water.org you will see people in developing countries who need help too.

                In 2014 people are still dying literally because their water isn't clean. I can talk to my family 2,000 miles away via hand sized electronics and we have a space station floating 150 miles above the earth going 17,000 miles/hr and we have people dying from unclean water. Da fuck, earth. Da fuck.

                [–]Krehlmar 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Maaaaaaatt.... Daaaaaaaääääjmmoooooon.

                [–]Baesic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I believe eliminating extreme poverty is possible, but it will be very difficult and take a while. Eliminating relative poverty is impossible, unless you live in a perfect socialist society.

                However it's important to remember the wellbeing of a person takes into account not just poverty, but also sanitation, access to clean water, food, medicine, etc. So these factors are all interconnected and important.

                [–]5_sec_rule 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Holy shit! Katie Couric looks super old.

                [–]fameistheproduct 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Ironically, She looks like she needs to moisturize.

                [–]Iainfixie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                MAAAAAAAAAAAAAT DAAAAAAAMON!

                [–]iHaveMoreGunsThanYou 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Matt Damon is a really good guy, but this still makes me laugh...

                [–]christ0ph 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Its true - this is why we need to stop global water privatization which makes water unaffordable.

                A country's water can even be taken to pay the "gambling debts" of its wealthy!

                [–]christ0ph 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This is interesting- Policies on water are always influenced by chemical regulatory policy..

                http://libcloud.s3.amazonaws.com/93/c7/2/3299/CIEL_submission_on_TTIP_Sentate_Finance_Committee_Hearing-clean.pdf

                [–]____G____ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUa5oHgYV2k&list=PLywbrT-D96X6rssd54qjRvIML1vlPqmEV

                [–]peter-bone 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I hate when big numbers are used unnecessarily. No one can judge the scale with such large numbers and are just there to look impressive. Instead of saying

                "Women, who bear the primary responsibility for water collection, spend a combined 182 million hours a day collecting water."

                Why not say something like

                "Women, who bear the primary responsibility for water collection, each spend up to 5 hours a day collecting water."

                The average person can visualize the significance of that.

                [–]cr0ft -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You will never solve poverty without transcending the entire concepts of money and trade, would be more accurate. Poverty in one end is necessary if you're going to have unbridled wealth in the other. You can't solve poverty if you're not going to solve the problem of outrageous wealth.

                Water and sanitation are both symptoms of poverty and the money-based society we've built, where the rich nations and the corporations that own them suck $2 trillion out of the poor nations and then return an insulting $130 billion or so in aid. Of course they suffer. How could they not suffer?

                Global Wealth Inequality - What you never knew you never knew.

                [–]Epiktetos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Only four things are needed to solve poverty worldwide, adequate nutrition, health, housing, and education.

                Given these four basics, poverty globally would be consigned to history.

                The really sad thing (IMO) is that there's demonstrably not enough incentive/profit in that for the corporations to have made it happen.

                If there were, it would clearly have already happened.

                [–]Bohrdumb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Education. He meant to say education.

                Educate the people, and they will find ways to solve the problems.

                [–]RiffyDivine2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Naaa educating people leads to them asking questions and getting ideas and we can't have that.

                [–]FullBearMode 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Thank god Matt Damon has finally weighed in this issue. The world is saved.

                [–]GoorillaInTheRing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Wow, you're a real ray of sunshine, aren't ya?

                [–]DrSame 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Matt Damon

                [–]Roderick111 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                YOU WILL NEVER SOLVER WATER WITHOUT SOLVING POVERTY AND SANITATION

                Also, poor people, stop shitting on yourselves.

                [–]knotty-and-board 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You will never solve poverty.

                [–]energyaware 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Solve energy problem and engineers will solve everything else afterwards

                [–]alliknowis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Eh, this will make poverty less dangerous, not less poor.

                [–]RiffyDivine2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The goal isn't to stop them from being poor, that would upset the status quo

                [–]slaes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                and to make that sustainable you need....?

                [–]qui-gonzalez 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                MATT DAY-MON!

                [–]NotThisTimeDave 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You will never solve poverty without solving water and sanitation

                Maybe he could send this comment back to 1964?

                We could have saved several trillion dollars on our War on Poverty by instead declaring a War on Crappy Irrigation.

                [–]mkleiman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                MAAATTT DAAAMMOONNN

                [–]DuDEwithAGuN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Just don't trust him if he says he found a suitable place for water and sanitation. He'll try to kill you and steal your space ship!

                [–]JPSYCHC 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I think wealthy celebs using their fame and fortune for humanitarian causes is great and all, but I wish we could start approaching these issues from a rational standpoint and quit the hyperbolic pipe dream catch phrases.

                You can't "solve poverty". That doesn't make sense. There will always be poor people. And our population continue to grow exponentially as we dwindle our resources. "Solving poverty" is a waste of breath.

                [–]chcampb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Ehh....

                The trick is, poverty is not "poor people" because "poor" is relative. There will always be relatively poor people.

                When people say poverty, they really mean poverty trap. This is when you live in conditions that are poor without a reasonable (and deterministic) path to success. And this problem is absolutely solvable, given proper sanitation infrastructure, education, etc.

                [–]mynameisspiderman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I clicked the link and it takes me to fucking Katie Couric with all sorts of bull stories.

                [–]moonus111 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                pay more for this ad please.

                [–]novictim -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (109子コメント)

                Heh Hmmm...and what about wealth inequality?

                None of this gets solved without there being a democratic system that looks after ordinary, working people. It all starts with Campaign Finance Reform.

                [–]USCAV19D 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                Human development is far more important.

                [–]jrm2007 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (34子コメント)

                I say water and sanitation first. Ask someone who doesn't have it which may end up being Americans one day if we are not careful.

                Americans have taken essentially unlimited clean water, a really great thing, for granted for years. Recently my hotel is undergoing renovation and periodically no water, sometimes in the middle of a shower. Inconvenient and easy to take at first but wait until you get thirsty.

                [–]novictim -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (33子コメント)

                I agree with that but I think the oligarchs are trying to set a low bar for us all. My point is that the politics must come first and that this is really a problem of income inequality first and foremost.

                There is water in Detroit, right? What is missing is the ability of people to pay. Why is that? Why are people in Detroit destitute when the automakers are being bailed out? Is this really a class issue. Hell ya!

                Big money has corrupted the system so that ordinary people are being cut off/cutout/cut to pieces.

                [–]Cataclyst 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                Wealth inequality is actually more of an issue within already affluent economics where there is already infrastructure and markets at work.

                The primary problem with wealth inequality isn't "fairness," that someone has more than another. It's that disproportionate wealth in the hands of a few, skews the purchasing power of Demand in the economy into markets that tend to not actually benefit the public good. "More yachts instead of accessible cell phones."

                It all means nothing if you can't even have basic sanitation to even make food or drink.

                edit: grammar

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                  [–]novictim -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  China, a police state that cooks its books, that has a nearly absent sense of the rule of law and is wildly inconsistent in the application of law, has empty warehouses noted at "full", has a trade-deficit about 3-9 times the USA(depends on what numbers you trust)...that is not a good example.

                  I understand that China is paying trolls to shill for them. Your error was in addressing that post to me. China is a joke. It is teetering on disaster and only the intervention of fellow kleptocratic oligarchs abroad is keeping the farce afloat.

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                    [–]novictim -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    So how do we pick and choose what history to accept now and what to reject? When someone is dead from starvation or torture, do they become "old news"? Do they fall off the ledger, in your mind?

                    And what of the people and the system that created that mass starvation? At what point are the people no longer to be judged? When does the system get "off the hook", Mister?

                    You know, every famine does eventually end, right? That includes famines that are man made and those that nature engineers and everything in between.

                    MisterJose, or whatever your real and/or appropriate handle should be, the system of leadership and oppression in China is still conducting horrendous extermination and genocide and cultural cleansing operations in Tibet. Tomorrow it could be HongKong in a Tienanmen square like purge.

                    When does that Chinese secret system of leadership ever get off the hook?

                    How do you, Mister, balance the horrors of the not so distant past with the potential of more atrocities in the present against the possible good that would come with openness and pluralistic democratic reform in the future?

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                      [–]novictim 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      No, you are right from everything I have learned about the change after Mao and from the change I have seen in other economies. Capitalism does do amazing things. Even Marx agreed with that. You and I are on the same page on that score.

                      "What are you presenting as an alternative? Your imagined fantasy land in which everything is perfect, and we can magically change things beyond our control? "

                      I see Taiwan as shining a light toward reform. I see that the whining and complaining coming out of Hong Kong, Kenny G not withstanding, is having a psychic effect on the elites running China even if we do not see the shift before our very eyes. Just this complaining sets a bar that otherwise would be entirely invisible to the inner party otherwise. So my complaints are aspirational but that is not nothing.

                      "To me, you seem to be one the side of idealists, where human life is beyond value..."

                      No, not really. I'm a idealist but not an ideologue and I have a hard center of pragmatism. Hey, I'm a scientist. It is par for the course, really.

                      Speaking of misconceptions, should we buy into the West's false expectation that things in China must naturally progress from bread basket issues being solved to improvements in higher order issues? MisterJose, do you think that China is cruising toward fundamental freedoms coming in lock step to its solving of food scarcity? I'm not. So who is the idealist now?

                      While you and I agree that the shift in economics in China has been a boon, let us not relent on the push for a better life for the Chinese people. They could be us. Out little squeaks and chirps of protest filtering through the media and through the children of the elites seeking training in the West might just make an impact. Maybe.

                      [–]Barking_at_the_Moon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      You are re-writing history by putting the cart before the horse. In both cases you cite, it wasn't the economic totalitarians that created the growth, it was their dismissal.

                      China didn't begin to realize economic gains until it began abandoning the totalitarian one-party system of 'cooperative ownership' and instituted reforms that created the incentive of private ownership. It was the successors to Mao that realized his experiment had failed (miserably, both socially and economically) and who steered a path away from the absolutism that he had murdered millions to impose and enforce.

                      Likewise, the success in Chile had less to do with a dictatorial government than with removing that cork and letting the free markets take off. The Chicago Boyz, much loathed by totalitarian economists to this day, clearly drove the reforms that created the Miracle of Chile.

                      Though you are correct, we don't live in a pure democracy and wouldn't want to. As Adams and de Tocqueville pointed out, the tyranny of the majority maybe one of the biggest threats to the success that is the American experiment.

                      [–]mike932 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (47子コメント)

                      You want wealth equality, which is communism.

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                        [–]ThunderBuss 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?

                        [–]Iron_Cobra 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Is this a Doctor Strangelove reference?

                        [–]SupALupRT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        these celebrities that rail about poverty and stuff like that while they live in houses that could feed a zillion families for x amount years can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Fucking hypocrites.

                        EDIT: http://nickballasy.com/?p=396 nevermind he says hes in favor of higher taxes on rich folks, "50% on 5 million or more" perhaps I'm wrong.

                        In all seriousness unless America actually makes people accountable for their shitty decisions we have no hope of fixing poverty.

                        [–]aintnufincleverhere 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I still think he's a hypocrite. Not for this post, but he has said that this world needs major wealth distribution, while he's sitting on all that money.

                        He needs to put his money where his mouth is, else he's just full of shit.

                        [–]SupALupRT 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        ya probably i tried to google how much hes given to charity but no dice. Who knows

                        [–]jdpiano 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        He's wicked smaht.

                        [–]h-k-s -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        http://i.imgur.com/BVATt1O.gif?1

                        [–]ChessTiger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        I would have to say that you will never solve poverty without education...

                        [–]WickedVocalist 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You are really expecting the fruit before the seed is watered, aren't you?

                        Try this experiment: See if you can educate a bunch of hungry, thirsty, dirty children while the little girls go outdoors to 'go' after they begin menses.

                        You must be one of the India Family electorate losers of the Kathuria ID Theft ring scum laundering SSN numbers to Bollywood people like the Sultan of Brunei, peddling your bawdy faux French pay only school so you can donate to another liberal war loving Obama campaign.

                        So you can lie and suck off the Chicago Tribune liberals and allow more Ebola and dysentery to pretend that global warming is not some problem you'd use to commit more global warmongering if you had the ability to harness it.

                        In fact I am sure instead of giving homeless people a job so they can learn to fish you'd keep them in a room waiting for 4 hours to have a cheeseburger to feed them one. meal. at. a. time.... Vegan, no slapping doubt!

                        Go brainwash another liberal Immigration Idol or Lackadaisical Factor poptart for 20k a year salary, will you?

                        We are just not going to deal with it any longer.

                        You've distracted the main event long enough.

                        [–]ae_89 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I can come up with quite a few professional sports players who can't read or write, but have enough money to keep their families set for life.

                        [–]themikeswitch 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        That's what I was about to say. Seems pretty obvious, but... apparently not

                        [–]yoda17 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Can't get an education if you are dead from amebiasis by your first birthday.

                        [–]hbaum11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Too damn many people on this planet. Too damn few resources on this planet. Humans die off. Planet lives on. End of story.

                        [–]Paxalot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Says the guy with a carbon footprint equal to an entire town.

                        [–]ermahlerd 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Apologies to Matt Damon as we ran out of time...

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                          [–]fjzappa 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          And this takes energy. However these same actors want to curtail energy production around the world. Can't have it both ways.

                          In the middle ages, the court jesters wore funny clothes so that everyone knew not to take them seriously.

                          [–][deleted] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I would stick my love stick so far up Katie Couric's...ugh. Nevermind.

                          [–]moopos -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          solve water and sanitation? how about dig a well and build a sewer? humans have had this technology for 2800 years now. my mom grew up on a farm in the late 1950s shitting in a hole in the ground. 1950s indiana farm girl.

                          it's not rocket science. don't defecate where it can get into your water supply. if a group of people can't get it together enough to do these two things, the failing is generally cultural - not a lack of money or resources. but that sounds too much like blaming the victim. so nothing will ever improve.

                          [–]yoda17 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You can't dig a well if you can't afford a shovel.

                          It's interesting how all he Europeans got malaria by building next to water sources while all the ignorant natives built far away and had to walk kms everyday just to get water.

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                            [–]DrFrandlesMD -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Does anyone understand that poverty is a relative value? The poverty line in the US is a better standard than poverty in sub Saharan Africa. There will always be relative poverty.

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