Did he say race doesn't matter there? No, he didn't. What he said was that in a lot of areas in the north the whites are the least well off - having grown up in South Yorkshire I can attest to this. What you've done here is made something up that he didn't say so you can argue against him. Why? Does racism against white people not exist in Zimbabwe? Has there been no racism toward white people in Armenia, in Georgia, in Albania?

The fuck are you on about? His implication was that there are poor whites so there is no white priviledge. Just because you lived with poor whites, that does not negate the fact that your skin colour gives you a leg up against others when all things are equal. Do you think it would be easier to get out of that situation being a poor white man or a porr immigrant? And no, don't even dare say "le government gioves them benefits" because that is some bullshit forward from grandma that is akin to the U.S reagan version of the EBT queen with spinning rims on her lexus. TB then went on to say ..

Miracle of Sound accurately pointed out the genocide perpetrated against a portion of the Irish population and the hundreds of years of oppression that they suffered under the English. Sounds pretty damn racist to me. How about the Armenian Genocide? Unfortunately another part of history frequently white-washed and in many cases denied in America. I mean hell if you want to go for something obvious, you could argue the Holocaust (though some people will then wring their hands and say "well technically Jews aren't a race", you'll have to forgive me if I find being picky with the dictionary as intellectually dishonest in this regard). More recently, we've had the government-driven violence with its Fast-track land reform, in which land is being taken from white people (a 5% or lower minority in Zimbabwe), often by force. Supporters of Robert Mugabe, calling themselves the "War Veterans Association" literally went around murdering white farmers, according to the organisation Human Rights Watch.

Of all the examples he listed, the only racist example was the Zimbabwean farm attacks and even then, no bumbling idiot would say "that is not racism" .What people say is that in the western world there is no instituitionally sanction racism against white people as those institutions were built with whites in mind. And yes, that includes England.

He even has the nerve to quote the holocaust as an example of white being racially targetted, ironically bu other white people.

Of course class is separate from race. How can it not be? Are all back people in the world lower class in your eyes?

Class is not necessarily seperate from race. Race determines to an extent one's class among other things. The advantages gained from class priviledge also intertwine with some advantages gotten from race. Walking into a high end store as a white man is a completely different situation from walking in as a wealthy black man.

Jon stewart gave an example of two mates of his who walked into a building to shoot a video. One was a white guy in less than stellar clothing. The other was the black guy in the suit. Guess who got stopped and questioned? Shit like that is when the whole "wealth is the only priviledge" gets disproven time and time again. In the west, no matter which way you slice it, race determines greatly what class one will be perceived as even in the presence of other attributes because race is the most visible factor of the equation.

Just what? Is this actually a serious comment or are you just playing a role here?

Ask TB because that is the role he played.