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[–]OppaWumboStyle 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Another thing that is pretty huge you forgot. Thundergrunge sent this to me telling me I was removed.

Hey Oppa,

I'm going to be the harbinger of some bad news. I have no doubt that you are aware of the things that happened the last few days. It became something negative for our mod team. Based on the following reasoning, we decided to remove you as a moderator of /r/pokemon.

Lets clarify this decision. First of all: when I say us, I mean all the moderators. This situation was at first discussed between me, Abra, Jensenj2 and wtfReddit, and after we got to a conclusion we also decided to get feedback from the other mods. Together we came to the similar conclusion.

What happened are several things that made our mod team incoherent. This situation started with another throwaway leaker. You gave him thumbs up for a post, but in that post it was mentioned that the mods confirmed the legitimacy. You were also posting in that thread about how legitimate it was. To prevent another fiasco (like the ORAS demo throwaway) I removed the post as an emergency. This was also done because of the fact that the images that served as proof, were dead links.

A big discussion followed wherein the leaker just backed out and didn't want to show proof anymore, but where he started to discredit the moderators through his comments. Because of this this person was banned. Not a big deal being it a throwaway (which only wants to leak, so don't understand why he didn't continue anyway). However, the next time I came on Reddit you overturned this decision without any communication with any mod whatsoever. Now you showed us proof, but again links were dead. This cannot happen in a mod team, we should be able to rely on each other.

And then you posted the video where you as a moderator of /r/pokemon were actually discussing the leaks with a prominent YouTuber. You were essentially our representative, while we never discussed anything about this. None of the other mods knew you were doing this (and already so fast after the apparent leak). Besides that you are not our representative. Besides that we are a moderating team and are not a source of any kind that can confirm leaks as legitimate. We should not be presented like that, and that is exactly what you did. Besides that it made you look like the one who is in charge, while as mentioned before we must work as a team.

Besides the fact that your way of decision making does not take into account that we are a mod team and you make these kind of decisions on your own, it is also really remarkable how everything of the last few days just end up with you. It seems like you are almost in league with the leaker. But that's of course not the main reason, it did add a negative atmosphere to the situation.

So, to conclude: I want to thank you for the help you were able to give us and your positive contributions to /r/pokemon, but we need a solid team especially with the release of ORAS coming next week. We cannot rely on an individual that does not work as a teammember but rather solos it out whenever he seems fit.

Of course: if you have any questions or remarks, you can contact us through modmail. But we are not overturning this decision. I also want to highlight that this does not mean you are banned, but your custom name color and stuff will get removed.

Once more, thank you for the positive things you have done, but we will not be working with you in the moderator team of /r/pokemon any longer.

~Thundergrunge, on behalf of the /r/pokemon moderator team on this matter and on this matter only.

And also I would like to quote this from the same person who didn't believe the photos we were sent.

"This cannot happen in a mod team, we should be able to rely on each other."

[–]Deathmask97Gen 3 for Life 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

it is also really remarkable how everything of the last few days just end up with you. It seems like you are almost in league with the leaker.

Umm... what. Wow. This sounds not only accusatory but also almost jealous in a twisted sort of way. "In league with the leaker"...? Like, what the actual fuck, you're the only one who tried to work with the guy, and what would you be "in league" with him for? Money, moderating power, fame?? That train of thought doesn't even make sense and just sounds like he's spouting out garbage hoping to make you sound like a bad guy.

I'd really like for that mod to come here and explain himself, but seeing how condescending /u/Thundergrunge seems to be in this message, I doubt he'd grace us with an answer.

[–]OppaWumboStyle 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He is one of the main reasons for my removal and he's said nothing so far.

[–]Desolate_Decapitator 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well he lives in the Netherlands and its only just about to turn 8 AM so that's probably the reason he hasn't been on.

[–]astrocartog 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, Thunder was allowed to remove a thread without consulting another mod about it, but you weren't allowed to give a thumbs up without consulting another mod? Seems... corrupted. EDIT: I just finished reading the rest of this. This is some complete bull shit. Representative? Does making a YouTube video for something all of a sudden make you a representative? What if I, a lowly casual /r/Pokemon subreddit subscriber, made a video with a famous YouTuber? Then what? Am I going to be accused of being a representative of /r/Pokemon? This makes absolutely no sense and Oppa deserved none of this. If I were him, I wouldn't want in on this whole moderating business. Too much drama just to have fun with Pokemon. EDIT: What the fUCK??

[–]FistingAmy 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That seemed extremely accusatory. You did this and you did that. And them accusing you of being "in league" with the leaker. What the shit does that even mean? Shouldn't the mods be working with leakers to verify stuff?

As far as the statement of "...rather solos it out whenever he seems fit, it doesnt seem fair at all. You didnt just solo it because they said no so you took it into your own hands, you soloed it because there was no communication on their end. You had what was best for the sub in mind. And its not like you've gone "solo" before as a mod have you?

I dont think you should be martyred for this, but I will say the whole thing got out of hand and could have been handled by both parties much better.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm overall happy with how you modded. And you did pretty good things for the sub. Much appreciated.

[–]SSBBeforeHoes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is my first time on this subreddit but this entire fiasco is utter bs. You put in your post about how no one communicated with you on all but one occasion, and on that occasion you only got one moderater to reply to you. And yet Thundergrunge says how they need to all rely on each other - You weren't able to rely on anyone and were forced to make a decision by yourself (mostly).

solos it out whenever he sees fit.

No. He solos it out whenever it's the only thing he can do because he is not being communicated with. Honestly, what a great first time on the subreddit with all this hypocrisy.