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ORASMy removal explained in full detail (self.pokemon)

OppaWumboStyle が 投稿

Since the mods of /r/pokemon aren’t doing it I will say exactly what happened as unbiased as possible. So several nights ago we received 4 photos from a supposed leaker of the game. They looked 100% legit and I approved the leaker’s Q/A. I go to bed and wake up the next day to learn that his post was removed because only me and Captainium saw the pics before the link was removed for privacy reasons (it was removed by thunder who later said in my removal message that we should be able to trust the other mods). I also learned that the leaker was banned for “harassing” the mods. All he did was post a picture of the mod log IIRC. I messaged the mods saying this ban was unfair and even jensenj said that it was too harsh. I contacted the leaker knowing that the reddit pokemon community deserves to know about this whether or not the other mods are allowing it (it should be allowed). The leaker sends me 16 photos which have been released know, and I send them to the other mods who yet again don’t see them before the links go dead (they were up for several hours but we are in different time zones). The don’t respond to it and at this point it’s really frustrating me because I know how important these leaks could be to the community. I know there is a lot of confusion so I send popular Poketuber the photos who legitimizes them as well and I collab with him to explain what’s going on. Keep in mind this is the only time I don’t contact the mods before doing something about this. About a day later I receive a message talking about my removal and how the mods need to have a group that can trust one another and how I didn’t communicate with them. I found this ridiculous and messaged the mods about it again who, surprisingly, didn’t respond. I messaged them again telling them that they should make an explanation post to explain what happened and thunder said he would eventually and what is in the mod post is what you are getting as an explanation from the mods. This is exactly what happened and this entire time I never did anything for my own personal gain. Everything I did was to help our Reddit community and a community as a whole. I hope this clears up everything.

Edit: I forgot to mention I also unbanned the leaker because 1. I felt it was unfair and the only person to respond to my ban at his request was jensenj and he somewhat agreed and 2. He said he could take his business elsewhere other than here and requested to unbanned

Edit 2: I would also like to say I hope the other mods openly participate in the thread

Edit 3: It looks like the mod post is no longer stickied

Edit 4: going to be, will be back in 4 hours

Edit 5: Everyone please go vote on the sticky based off the evidence that has been provided by each side

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[–]LitaganoFC: 1521-4174-7990 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well shit. This is gonna be a particularly ugly part of /r/pokemon's history...

[–]LyratheflirtBadass Otter 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe it's time that we get new moderation in /r/pokemon. If there's one thing about power, is that it easily makes people corrupt.

[–]Max_Was_Here 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No can do, it'd be easier to just create a new Pokemon Subreddit.

[–]ZeroTheSaviorWHY U NO MISSINGNO 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nobody remembers last year's shitstorm?

[–]LitaganoFC: 1521-4174-7990 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was that?

[–]ZeroTheSaviorWHY U NO MISSINGNO 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some guy got mad because people upvoted a shiny for the 1000th time or something, he got downvoted, got banned, xposted to /r/pokemoncirclejerk, said he was never coming back because the mods sucked and circlejerked

[–]SuperDanceParty 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL oh god things are about to get SO much worse.

[–]Triforce16 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look what you've done mods

[–]SlinisterBROOOoooo! 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well fuck. EVERYONE GRAB YOUR POPCORN IT'S 69% OFF!

[–]dragonestarok 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no...

[–]Tha_ZettBadass Honey Badger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

the rest of the moderators take this as an opportunity to gang up on him

( ͡ ͡° ͜ ʖ ͡ ͡°)

[–]SlinisterBROOOoooo! 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Crap most of them are males. ABANDON MISSION ABORT ABORT!

[–]ihateirony 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More drama is caused by being linked there than is ever in existence before.

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    [–]trekiez_revamped 355 ポイント356 ポイント  (77子コメント)

    I hope like hell the mods here don't turn into anything like /r/technology or /r/politics. They have always been really good guys and this puts them in a very bad light.
    The hypocrisy is a bit alarming. Being told that you didn't communicate with the mods when they clearly weren't replying to your sent messages about the topic is not on. You acted on what you and the only mod to respond thought was best. You did what was right, the others are in the wrong here.

    EDIT: HERE IS MY POST ON ABRA's THREAD. The /r/pokemon mods are suppressing information from the community.

    [–]Deathmask97Gen 3 for Life 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Honestly I feel like there should be some kind of voting system to remove mods or repeal actions that mods have made that the community disapproves of. Seriously, I've been hearing about these power trip stories more and more often in increasingly more niche subs, and it's really starting to worry me.

    In situations like this, both parties should be able to tell their sides of the story, and the community could vote on wether the ruling was fair, unjustified, or neither - it fair, the ruling sticks, if unjust, the ruling is overturned, and if neither, a review of the case and a significantly different ruling must be given that is less strict than the prior one.

    Seriously, it's really frustrating to see the entire community in disagreement with the mods and yet have no say in these affairs. Power-trip mod tribunals always turn ugly in the long run, and this is the first major red flag that calls for action.

    [–]trekiez_revamped 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    This is exactly what should happen.
    The only problem is, the mods that have more power don't want to listen to what the community has to say on their decisions. What they say, goes, in their head. They never seem to notice that it affects not only how others perceive them, but how it affects the community as a whole.
    As is the case here, a mod is removed and no statement is given by any other mods. They couldn't care less about the people, they only care about their power and going up in the ranks. And they'll do whatever it takes to get there, regardless of what the comunity thinks.

    [–]Deathmask97Gen 3 for Life 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Makes me sad, man.

    Of all the subreddits I'm subscribed to, I never expected that /r/Pokemon would be the one to go through drama like this.

    I'm extremely disappointed.

    [–]derkrieger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    All subreddits have their drama and like most drama it will blow over in time. I know how annoying it is when you love a community but watch mods kick it down sometimes. On the other hand I as a mod myself know how irritating a mob mentality can be. Mods aren't always right, but neither are groups of angry people.

    P.s. sounds like the mods dun goofed this time.

    [–]Deathmask97Gen 3 for Life 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The mods definitely goof'd and they're not doing anything about it.

    I know mob mentality can be vicious, but the mods are doing nothing to try to fix this, just doing damage control. If they're acting like politicians, they should be treated like politicians.

    I personally won't be satisfied until something is actually done about this, whether that means other mods stepping down, being forced to step down, or changing policies, because they've been crystal clear about never making Oppa a mod again. Honestly, the whole incident reeks of fishiness and ulterior motives, and I don't want people like that running this subreddit.

    But what can I do? I'm just some lowly commoner forced to live under these mods' regime. I'm honestly more than just a bit worried they'll finally get fed up with me speaking out and telling them to do something, anything to actually fix this and they'll just drop the ban hammer on me for "harassment" like they said they did with the anon.

    This blows.

    [–]derkrieger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If it gets to that point the community will split and make their own subreddit. You guys don't NEED their subreddit, you just need each other.

    [–]abcd_z 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Honestly I feel like there should be some kind of voting system to remove mods or repeal actions that mods have made that the community disapproves of.

    Then you'd have larger, aggressive, subreddits taking over smaller subreddits they disapprove of through sheer force of numbers.

    Allow me to explain how this would work.

    Let's say there are two subreddits, A and B. B has a well-known history of mass-downvoting threads and comments they disapprove of and is much, much larger than A.

    Reddit unveils a new system whereby enough subscribers voting on a subject can get a mod kicked out. So redditors from B start swarming A. Even the small fraction of B's subscribers that are involved outnumber the original subscribers by a vast majority. They initiate action to get the original mods kicked out, and their actions succeed due to the overwhelming majority of the votes.

    Congratulations. Now B controls A as well, and there's very little anybody can do to change it back.

    The system we have in place right now isn't a perfect one, but it could be a lot worse.

    [–]Deathmask97Gen 3 for Life 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    How would they be able to force out mods or overturn policies when they have no actual ability to put the mod on trial in the first place?

    The way I see it, this system would be activated by the mods whenever they want to make a large decision that effects the subreddit as a whole, like removing a mod for instance. In this case, they would make a post about their decision, post supporting evidence, and allow one post from the defending party as a rebuttal and a counter-plea. This in turn would open up a poll to subscribers that allows them to weigh in on the decision as an impartial jury of peers.

    As for other subs coming in and flooding the polls, this could be fixed by a simple "age" check. If your account hasn't been subscribed to that particular subreddit for a predetermined amount of time, you will be barred from voting in that poll. Easy fix. If that's not possible, the subreddit could instead go into a sort of "lockdown" mode that prevents anyone from subscribing until the polls are over, and only those currently subscribed have the privilege to vote.

    Would that not work as intended?

    [–]abcd_z 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It sounded like you were describing a situation where the users had the ability to put the mods on trial. If the users don't have that ability, I find it highly unlikely that the mods would use that ability themselves.

    For example, take the situation that's occurring here and now. Do you honestly think the mods would voluntarily put themselves on trial for removing another mod?

    [–]Deathmask97Gen 3 for Life 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying.

    This would not be voluntary. If the mods made any decision that affected the sub as a whole, they would be required to have the sub vote on their decision. I believe the community should decide how to go about things that directly affect them.

    [–]abcd_z 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So a mod wouldn't be able to, for example, remove another mod from a position of authority without putting it to a group vote first?

    Interesting concept. It would require a major overhaul of the reddit codebase, it would completely change the way Reddit moderation worked, there would be unforeseen negative consequences, most of the existing mods would be very loudly against the change, and a sizable minority of them would likely quit in protest, but it is an interesting concept.

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      [–]95Mb 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (57子コメント)

      At least mods here have a loooooooong way to go before they reach the notoriety of a certain /r/warhammer mod....

      [–]silverhydra 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (46子コメント)

      I must have missed that particular chapter of reddit; what happened?

      [–]lockeslylcrit 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      TotalBiscuit made a First Impressions video of WH40k: Space Marine. A certain moderator from a certain subreddit proceeded to crap all over TB by claiming TB said certain things ("WH40k stole from Gears of War") which were not true. Then said mod proceeds to engage in ad hominem attacks, eventually banning many loyal /r/warhammer followers.

      https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/358785590117924866

      [–]mwmwmwmwmmdw 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      http://i.imgur.com/HCOnO.jpg

      [–]jaxhax6-0s you with level 1s 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      > he's a janitor

      > on the internet

      > he does it for free

      > he takes his "job" very seriously

      > he does it because it is the only amount of power and control he will ever have in his pathetic life

      > he deletes threads he doesn't like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack

      > he deletes threads he doesn't like because they interfere with the large backlog of little girl chinese cartoons he still has to watch

      > he will never have a real job

      > he will never move out of his parent's house

      > he will never be at a healthy weight

      > he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket

      > he will never have a girlfriend

      >he will never have any friends

      [–]thedarkartistayy lmao 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      FOR FREE

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          [–]iaido221950-8013-4261 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (16子コメント)

          The head mod of r/wow made the subreddit private because he couldn't play the new expansion. It will be private (not sure if it still is) until he can log in and play.

          [–]silverhydra 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (13子コメント)

          I'm going to assume this the truth (I don't visit that sub) since the disclaimer when I try to go there says that the subreddit was "shut down for doxxing"; even if that claim was true it is a piss poor mod move. :/

          [–]lockeslylcrit 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (8子コメント)

          It's the truth. The head mod of the subreddit himself tweeted the threat. A community manager (volunteer(?) employee) of Blizzard even told him it wasn't the best thing in the world to do.

          [–]silverhydra 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Damn, this one is a lot more drama-tastic than that warhammer one. I'm really curious as to how that mod even began thinking this was a good idea or if he thought this would ever go over well.

          That guy (@nitesmoke) seems to have deleted his twitter account as well.

          [–]lockeslylcrit 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

          I don't frequent /r/wow since I stopped playing some time after Cataclysm, so take my word with a grain of salt, but I did hear from others in the subreddit that this isn't the first time said mod threw a tantrum.

          [–]silverhydra 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Ya, just catching up on the topic over in /r/subredditdrama and it seems delicious. This was already made in honor of it

          [–]Holyrapid 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          That's real? Wow, even the game is taking a piss on him. (At least, i assume that's WoW)

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            [–]I_EAT_POOP_AMA 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            a day or so ago it was shut down because the mod (/u/nitesmoke) couldn't play the game

            The sub came back up after a few hours, where the rest of the mods threw up a sticky letting the community know what was up, and how they weren't 100% supportive of his actions but didn't want to cause a witchunt or any overreatcion in the sub. Of course most people decided they should call him out on his actions and get him demodded because of that little tantrum, which only made things worse since he was one of the first mods (and iirc the founder of the sub) so no other mods can touch him to do it themselves. The sub went private again, but right before he was apparently doxxed and started demodding everyone besides himself. If it had stayed up longer i'm pretty sure we would have seen the banhammer strike a few blows as well.

            as of now, the community is starting anew in /r/worldofwarcraft. the remaining mods have put in a request to take ownership from him in the appropriate subs but since he's still active on reddit and didn't break any site rules nothing will probably get done about it.

            [–]JaggerA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Warhammer, not wow

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              [–]TheHeavyMetalNerd 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (12子コメント)

              Storytime...

              [–]ItsAMeMitchell 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (11子コメント)

              Yes, please.

              [–]billyK_Squirtle Squad Fuck Yeah 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (10子コメント)

              I got my popcorn and candy; where do I sit?

              [–]ItsAMeMitchell 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Members of the one-year club to the front, gilded redditors to the VIP seats.

              [–]RuinedGrave 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I got my blanky. I can share it with you!

              [–]SlinisterBROOOoooo! 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              MY BODY IS REGI FOR THE STORY.

              [–]mudermarshmallowssceptile 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Let me find the storybook...

              [–]ajree210 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              I think it's crazy how widespread his infamy is. I've been a part of the /r/warhammer community since before I made my account. Never had a run in with him but he really is pretty infamous.

              [–]95Mb 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Right? He's such an asshat. My most recent run-in with him was when he egged someone on to delete their post for breaking a rule, but he didn't want to be bothered to say what rule was broken and no one could figure out what rule he was talking about.

              [–]I_EAT_POOP_AMA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              or as of now, a certain /r/wow mod

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                [–]LyratheflirtBadass Otter 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                A similar situation in /r/games happened with a mod. It's was super shady and made me dislike that subreditt. Basically the mods were being shady and one of the mods did a whistleblow. they removed him.

                /r/pokemon mods. Don't be that kind of group. it never ends well. you're looking at a massive PR crisis if things get out of hand.

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                  [–]Rockslicer747Soo... Whatcha gonna do? 444 ポイント445 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  I was wondering why you weren't a mod anymore. Seems a bit unfair to unmod you. You still seem like a cool guy!

                  [–]WKMsig09 175 ポイント176 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  Eh moderates the subreddit and doesn't afraid of anything.

                  [–]idonotwanttoregisterHear Me Roar! 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  Free power trips to everyone.

                  [–]Sparkvoltage 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  No one man should have all that power.

                  [–]MrXilas[noivern] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  The clocks tickin', I just count the hours.

                  [–]loknido 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Stop trippin' I'm tripping off the power

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                    [–]ItsProfOakCollector 178 ポイント179 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    From what you told us, it sounds like you got scapegoated.

                    [–]latiasfanSo glad Latias has a Mega :) 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Truth. It sounds SOOOOO fishy.

                    [–]Exaskryz 193 ポイント194 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                    As someone who has been an /r/pokemon mod, I understand how it goes when the rest decide to outcast you. I give the sub another year before the community can't tolerate the moderation.

                    [–]GalleonKing 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                    So what your saying is I should set up /r/pokemen in preparation so I can have my own tyrannical rule?

                    [–]min_min 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    Let's not be exclusive, /r/pokepeople

                    [–]spiral6Gen 1 - 5 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Yeah, no need to get THAT crowd in here.

                    [–]madeupstatistician 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    Check your generation privilege, kanto-scum.

                    [–]SlinisterBROOOoooo! 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    And here you are with a Blastoise flare calling them kanto-scum.

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                      [–]SuperDanceParty 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I have experience with complex workplace politics myself, it sounds to me like that's what went on here. Feels like a driving force with a bias behind things.

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                        [–]Desolate_Decapitator 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        You were a great mod and I enjoyed everything you've done for and with this community. I can't wait to see future posts. Keep up the good work regardless of status.

                        [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        Thank you I appreciate it

                        [–]Desolate_Decapitator 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        No problem! I appreciate all the work you and the other mods have done. This community wouldn't be what it is today without you or the other mods and that's exactly why this is my favorite sub.

                        [–]AlphaMaysJedi 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        you are the only mod I like here. the others are shitheads.

                        [–]Desolate_Decapitator 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        That's a little harsh. Jensenj and Thunder are great mods.

                        [–]colbercrobat[🍰] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Yeah really. We shouldn't generalize all of them. I'm not sure why they got rid of one the most active and communicative mods though. This annoys me

                        [–]ThunderRoad5 240 ポイント241 ポイント  (41子コメント)

                        Look at that. Another subreddit, another slew of shitty mods. Sorry boss.

                        [–]BeardyMcBeardster0834-1293-1894 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (40子コメント)

                        First the batshit crazy mod of /r/wow, now this.
                        Damn.

                        [–]youtman 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (37子コメント)

                        Tried looking at r/wow and it's private. Can you fill us (me) in?

                        [–]yineedname 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                        Long story short, main mod said he'd make the subreddit private unless he could actually connect to the game. He did not want to give publicity or support to Blizzard until they got their shit together with regards to the update.

                        [–]ItsAMeMitchell 99 ポイント100 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        All I can say is...wow.

                        [–]youtman 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Thanks for your response

                        [–]DrZeroH 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        Wow is he for real? That kind of action is entirely against the whole point of reddit in the first place. I feel like a reddit admin should intervene in this.

                        [–]LeopardGeckoI am become mud, destroyer of Kips. 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        They did end up intervening.

                        [–]DrZeroH 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        Oh they did? People cut out the good parts then D:<

                        What happened when they intervened?

                        [–]LeopardGeckoI am become mud, destroyer of Kips. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        It wasn't too exciting unfortunately! All that was said was this by an admin:

                        With that said, we did have to step in on the situation with the top mod of /r/wow[3] . I'm not going to share the details of what happened behind the scenes, but suffice to say the situation clearly crossed into 'admin intervention' territory.

                        [–]DrZeroH 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Oh poo. I just hope the guy got his ass kicked off the subreddit. He deserves it for pulling that kind of shit.

                        [–]go4ino 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        I thought they just stopped moderating the sub until there weren't 7000 people queues, I ehard though that the head mod was acting like a 6year old though

                        [–]TheYaddaGo go Golurk! 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        That IS the drama. Mod of /r/WoW said that if he couldn't log in and play WoD before... last night, I think, he would lock the subreddit. He went through with it, and said that he won't unlock it until he can successfully log in.

                        [–]Guilty_Pleasure 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It came back for a bit and the other mods tried to do damage control. Then, he supposedly got doxxed and unmodded them all and made it private. Now, /u/aphoenix got control of it through the Reddit admins.

                        [–]youtman 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Thanks for your response.

                        [–]ZergDestroyr 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                        Ill try my best. Basically the game's latest xpac, "Warlords of Draenor" has had a VERY bumpy launch, and this has angered many of the games players! The queues were massive, bugs everywhere, laggy zones and whatnot. So Blizzard tries explaining, and fixing the issues, but as many know, online communities aren't very forgiving of stuff like this. Blizzard should have been more prepared, yes, but they claim that they didnt think it would have blown up in population as fast as it did. Anyways onto the subreddit. A lot of shitposts and the like started occuring due to the frusturated community. So the mods after removing thousands of them, were told by the owner of the WoW subreddit to let them be posted. Anyways shortly after this the owner made the subreddit private with a message along the lines of "WoW subreddit is private untill the game is fixed" This confused me at the time, because I was on Area-52(Very popular server on the game) with no issues playing at all. So I dug up some more research and pretty much, due to earlier bugs and the owner getting stuck in queues he through a temper tantrum and locked the subreddit. Now this REALLY pissed off the community, so apparently he has been doxxed and closed the WoW subreddit. That's all I know, hope it helps. If you need more clarification I can try to explain something better.

                        [–]King_of_zee_Rats 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                        jesus they doxxed him for that!? I mean he over reacted but doxxing is really extreme (even by crazy internet rage standards)

                        [–]Emperor_of_Cats 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        The guy rage quit on a 200,000 member community and started taunting his twitter followers. He apparently posted his own dating profile on his twitter account.

                        The dude was asking for trouble. I'm not advocating doxxing, but if you play with fire, you're going to need a rawst berry.

                        [–]LitaganoFC: 1521-4174-7990 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        Yeah. Doxxing is never acceptable.

                        [–]SuperMarsh 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        What exactly is doxxing?

                        [–]LitaganoFC: 1521-4174-7990 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Exposing a person's personal details publicly online.

                        [–]SuperMarsh 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Woah. Yeah, not cool

                        [–]FurretG1435-5997-1596 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yeah, usually not cool at all, but in this case nitesmoke linked his OKCupid to his twitter (which he kept linking in just about every post he'd been making)
                        So someone pointed out his OKCupid profile. It's not really doxing when you, yourself, put the info out there for everyone to see.

                        However, actual doxing is bad.

                        [–]CrappyPunsForAllNeeds a Mega 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I am out of the loop, what's doxxing?

                        EDIT: never mind I just googled it. Any fun facts, however, would be fun :)

                        [–]Guilty_Pleasure 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Apparently his dating profile got leaked, and it said that he doesn't "believe in perpetuating drama."

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                              [–]tdogg8 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Here's a link to the srd post there a recap in the top

                              [–]Bitstyler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              This post summarizes it pretty well.

                              http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2mdghm/mods_no_longer_give_a_shit_post_whatever_new_wow/

                              [–]smartazjb0y 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Yeah, having never seen a lot of drama it's crazy seeing two of the subs I follow have lotsa drama

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                                [–]DiaperParty 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                mods won't reply to this

                                everyone will forget by next week

                                nothing will change

                                [–]freezeflare 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                Oh wow, this is ridiculous. I saw your video of the leak and I completely agree with what you have said here, that is completely unfair to justify what they did with this "did not communicate" bs. I hope everything clears up and for your mod status to be restored. Of course, I would like to hear an explanation from the other mods as well.

                                [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                I want to see one too

                                [–]freezeflare 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I hope it resolves smoothly, because as of currently the other mods seem to failing in the "communication" department as well. Good luck to you!

                                [–]Sir_Nameless 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                Could you link me up? I seem to have missed the video.

                                [–]freezeflare 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                linky

                                [–]Sir_Nameless 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Thanks for the link. Bit darn, I was expecting to see the pics.

                                [–]freezeflare 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                That was the point haha. I think with pics this easily would've been taken down and get people in trouble.

                                [–]LolsuphelmBecause it's a Dragon-type dinosaur. 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                This is quite an interesting tale you have. I do love a good 'corrupt admin' story. Now, what you did was for the benefit of all residents of this subreddit, and whilst I'm still on the fence about the authenticity of the leak, I do believe what you did was good, and really should not have got you removed from staff.

                                Perhaps you may be able to become a moderator again, one day.

                                [–]Zupwat 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                After all this I doubt he wants to.

                                [–]BullshitUsername 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I'm sorry but that's complete bullshit that you were removed because of that. I'd really like to see what the other mods have to say about this.

                                That's the worst reason for getting booted, especially if they were being as unclear in their communication as you make them out to be.

                                [–]Sparky600 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                I feel like the mods overreacted from a little miscommunication on their end, it really sucks. Sorry about the whole thing oppa. I hope to see you around the sub. :)

                                [–]edavis707edavis707 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                They overreacted over EVERYTHING with this whole leak. They acted like they were trying to cover up a murder.

                                [–]metalade1 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Maybe they were.

                                [–]Chimpeterson[Flair Text]zangoose 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Who Framed Roger Bunnelby?

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                                  [–]Whatzittooya__Alan | 2036-7950-5576 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  I'm not very active on this subreddit, nor do I know enough of both sides of the story to support one or the other, but I will say that with all these new supposed "leaks" coming from ORAS, I would recommend to the Mod team coming up with some sort of organized system of leaking the news to this subreddit. Obviously I'm not a Mod, nor do I have any power over the Mods, but this is simply my opinion on the matter. Any kind of news is bound to pop out any second, and being in different time zones, I would think, would help the chances of executing it in a more organized fashion. I personally don't see a problem with one Mod contributing to the leaking of the pics (that's what I understood from this whole situation, apologies if I'm wrong on the facts), since that's what they are. Leaks. If it were me and I wanted to leak something, I would want to get it out ASAP, but again that's just me. I would understand if it were something that would require more of a group-making decision, perhaps banning someone (I don't know how managing a subreddit works so that might have been a terrible example, don't judge me)? Again, I'm not trying to support one side or the other, because if what OppaWumboStyle said is true, I do agree, to some extent, that there was a lack of communication, but never no communication at all. However, I also believe that the lack of communication began way before the leaks. The mods should have seen these things coming and as a group should have decided what to do in the future in case something like this happened.

                                  Again, all of this is assuming I understood 100% what the issue was about. These are just my opinions and I'm trying to look at both sides. Who knows, maybe I got the facts completely wrong and this was just a pointless rant haha

                                  [–]SuperDanceParty 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  No you make good points bro. The mods should have a system in place, a code of conduct for dealing with leaks. Its important for a team to all be on the same page, if they have to communicate between a massive team that is all on different time zones, it becomes extremely inefficient. The OP could have been any mod, he was presented with a time sensitive issue, and made a decision. Regardless of whether it was right or not, inaction is always worse than action.

                                  [–]SilentScars 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  As someone who joined the pokemon subreddit as of recent and usually lurks rather than post.. I gotta say I always loved how you interacted with the community. Mad respect to you though, You did what you thought was best. Sadly things didn't turn out well for you... This coming from me, probably won't mean much but Thank you for your hard work and Good luck.

                                  [–]Armorend 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                  Folds arms and puts one leg over the other And now we wait for a mod to comment on it. Unless they don't care or something.

                                  [–]Desolate_Decapitator 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  I highly doubt they will since they haven't already.

                                  [–]Armorend 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Well that would be rude. And ignorant. And impolite. And I would think less of them. But if they don't care about telling us what they think of the situation, I guess they don't care about me either. GG, guys. Such good mods. 8)

                                  [–]Desolate_Decapitator 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  I wouldn't go that far. But I think they could add on and tell us their side at the least.

                                  [–]SuperDanceParty 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                  The mods should have collaborated with you on developing an appropriate mod post about your exit. One that isn't so ambiguous, and yet doesn't offend your privacy. That would've avoided the fiasco that led to them bringing down the first post. Just my experienced opinion, as a leader in the workplace.

                                  [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                  I also feel the community needs a say in these kinds of issues not just the mods

                                  [–]SuperDanceParty 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  I'm curious to know how they reached the decision to remove to you. With so far spotty communication I'd find it hard to believe they came to this consensus as a whole group. Perhaps some of them are getting behind your removal out of fear of being targetted next?

                                  Anyway I'm getting close to sticking my nose where it doesn't belong so I'll leave it here and call this comment a speculation

                                  [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  No idea how they decided. All they said was it was unanimous but I have no proof of that.

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                                      [–]Zankou55 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Aaaaaand I am unsubscribing from /r/pokemon.

                                      [–]JudeFaceKilla 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      TL;DR?

                                      [–]Naive_RioluBetter than the hasty sort 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I know, right? The enter key makes things much more readable.

                                      [–]legopieface 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                      The drama in the pokemon community is hilarious. Like air fighting air.

                                      [–]CaptButterToast3497-1391-7701 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                      As an ex-Sr.Moderator at one of the biggest Minecraft communities out there (MCGamer), the drama could be thousands of times worse, trust me, it was bad.

                                      [–]theciak 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                      -eats popcorn-

                                      [–]CaptButterToast3497-1391-7701 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                      Come on dude stop hogging it all.

                                      [–]SlinisterBROOOoooo! 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      lol no -hogs soda-

                                      [–]theciak 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      gives popcorn

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                                        [–]FrostyTheBadAss 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                        Mods should feel ashamed right now.....

                                        They probably didn't even put much thought into this except for like 2 of them I will give credit to my favorite mod jensenj2 for supporting him though

                                        [–]Triforce16 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Bro, with all the work you did, you shouldn't have been unmodded. Mods, you should feel pretty bad right now

                                        [–]ArraysionDraco Meteor EVERYTHING 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        And thus begins the collapse of the r/pokemon community. Goodnight Sweet Prince

                                        [–]Chockrit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        We'll miss you Oppa. I do always enjoy seeing your comments over in /r/smashbros though, so you've got that going for you.

                                        [–]thewitchofgeekRachel / 2723-8749-3314 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Other mods are just acting like assholes, IMO. I will miss you as a mod.

                                        [–]XiaoXiaoo 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                        Now, I may not know the full story behind this situation, but what I can say based on my past experience on a similar but smaller sub is this:

                                        You look like you're trying to be transparent and unbiased in explaining this situation to the general public, which is good! However, this whole post has a general passive-aggressive-jab-at-the-mod-crew feel to it. You seem frustrated that the mod crew essentially ostracized you from its ranks, and cut off communication. However, if what you say is true, then perhaps that is for the best.

                                        You mention that there were "a lot of confusion" surrounding the leaks situation, and as a result of the other mods not responding to it, you instead go to a Poketuber for help. This is not what should be happening in any moderation crew. I understand that you feel the leaks are important to the community, and rightly so, but it stands that reddit is moderated by a team, not by any individual. A lone moderator taking matters into their own hands is generally frowned upon by other moderators within their own sub, and hence why the mod team may have felt "distrust" coming from you. Moderators are people too, and along with the differences in time zones, it is likely they had matters of their own to attend to than scrutinize everything that happens in modmail. If they happen to miss something, simply try again and eventually the matter will be handled.

                                        Do you see why the mod team may have felt and acted the way they did now? Instead of being patient with the matter, (which yes, I understand is a pretty urgent manner, as with all leaker material), you went ahead and 1- reversed the decision on the banning of the leaker, and 2- carried on with your own ways of handling the situation, all before a consensus was made. This is un-teamly behavior that is not fit for a mod team, and exactly the reason that the mod team states as the reason for your removal.

                                        I may be entirely off the mark about this situation, but the reasons for a mod team removing one of their members forcibly is very limited. It hurts not only the moderator being removed, but also the team as a whole, giving it an image of disorganization and incoherency. Remember, it was the team that recruited you in the first place.

                                        At the end of the day, I can guarantee you that making a public post on a 300k+ subreddit trying to draw out responses from the mod team will get you nothing but silence from the mod team, and some sympathy from the public. And possibly even worse, a smear on the mod team's slate.

                                        [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                        I have explained all of this exactly the way it happened as unbiased as possible. I understand what you are saying but I believe that at some point especially in this issue that went unresponed for so long, someone needs to act.

                                        [–]XiaoXiaoo 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        Phrases like "I found this ridiculous" and "... , surprisingly, ..." are often left out of text that is attempting to be as unbiased as possible. This might be an unintentional caviat of your frustration, but it has certainly wormed its way into your post.

                                        [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                        Excuse me if I did that it wasn't intentional. Everything mentioned here happened and I have not left any information out.

                                        [–]XiaoXiaoo 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        A post's information may be unbiased. However, the way through which it is presented can have abstract effects on its audience. It's good that you did not intend for that to happen, but at the end of the day, this is not what I would consider a truly unbiased post.

                                        If you want a more concrete example of what I am saying, simply look at this, (ignoring the grammatical errors here and there):

                                        The don’t respond to it and at this point it’s really frustrating me because I know how important these leaks could be to the community.

                                        vs

                                        The mod team failed to respond on this matter, despite its importance to the community.

                                        [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Thank you I understand

                                        [–]SuperDanceParty 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Don't worry, recognizing that sort of thing in your writing takes practice. His advice is good.

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                                          [–]SuperDanceParty 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          I agree with you, they had solid grounds to take disciplinary action. It could have been dealt with much better, and didn't necessarily require removal, maybe suspension for him to ponder his actions would be appropriate. Just saying that based on the grounds that you have a good mod for the most part here, but he's not experienced clearly, its not his first mistake, but he's also demonstrated capacity to learn and correct himself in the past as well. Basically what they've done is put time into training someone and then throwing them away when they get close to having a well sculpted moderator.

                                          That's the way I see it. Just could've been handled better in so many ways.

                                          [–]asheriel3024-6406-0606 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          That's a shame!

                                          [–]TyranitarShawnGreen Hornet 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          That seriously sucks

                                          [–]ShinyMegaGardevoir 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Good luck with this all. I don't think there's much we can do.

                                          [–]Kate925 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I'd like to hear what the other mods have to say about this, because if what your saying is true, it does suck, but so far at the moment, we're only hearing your side of the story.

                                          [–]Pekolachi 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          Can someone explain why information about a game (unverified or not) is being withheld?

                                          Moreover, were is the non-bs and honest statement from the mods?

                                          [–]Reth_R 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          First it was WoW and now this subreddit. What is wrong with mods? They let a little bit of internet power go to their heads and just do the most ridiculous stuff. What is wrong with you, mods?

                                          [–]8edb8 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Awww, that sucks man, seems unfair to you. :(

                                          [–]-IZ- 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Good job good effort. Life goes on.

                                          [–]SlinisterBROOOoooo! 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Kinda like in Tetris, errors pile up and accomplishments disappear.

                                          [–]cheeselord99Praise Helix 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          That's deep.

                                          [–]ULiopleurodonPokemon Trainer Red 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          That's some serious bullshit, I hope the other mods realize that...

                                          [–]Jude_1833 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I don't even know what to say but you were one of the best mods i have ever seen, this is pretty unfair, but it was nice to unban the leaker, I hope to see you around.

                                          [–]KronusX7Bug best type 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          So basically the mods of this sub are shitty?

                                          [–]deukhoofd/r/ChurchofSwampert 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                          Every subs mods are shitty.

                                          [–]BejittoSSJ5 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          /r/pokemontrades' mods are pretty cool. :P

                                          [–]Hederbomb 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          So are /r/mindcrack s mods.

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                                            [–]GMU_TheHulk 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Why not just post the leaks with "legitimacy unproven" flait or something?

                                            [–]blazingscience 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I believe that the conflict should be settled with a Pokémon battle.

                                            [–]PKMNtrainer87 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            ok i'm still a little unclear as to what the issue exactly was..i was on the page on the night in question and i saw the youtube video about this and from what i can tell the only thing that happened was that u Oppa were quickest on the draw in responding to some new info about a game that allot of us on /poke are really looking forward to playing.in ur ytube video u even said that the poster has reached out to other mods so i dont see any evidence of betrayal or deception, at worst it was just breakdown in communication between mods which when news breaks those things happen. truthfully just take this as a learning experience and improve for the next games

                                            [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            From my understanding they didn't want another fiasco like the text post leak which was just a mistake on our parts. This was completely different because we actually had photos this time.

                                            [–]AlphaMaysJedi 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            hey, I was right about r/pokemon modes being shitheads.

                                            [–]red_deman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Same person, same situation (SVgiveaway and SVexchange situation). Seems like you always get into hissyfits and that no one ever listens to you. Have you ever thought that maybe what you think is the best or correct may not be. Just accept this and move on.

                                            [–]latiasfanSo glad Latias has a Mega :) 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I know I have only been a part of this reddit community for a short time frame but I find it odd you have been removed personally. If I was in your shoes I would have done the EXACT same thing. So for them to criticize you is not right. Honestly out of all the mods on here (the ones listed on the side panel) I have only ever seen you and two others (will refrain from names) ever active (i.e. posting and commenting on a regular basis). The others appear dormant and don't show anywhere near as much care as I believe you most certainly did. I hope you will return to your moderator standing shortly, as for I personally wholeheartedly agree with you.

                                            [–]HardlySaucy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            What pictures???

                                            [–]N_Double_A 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            What exactly were these leaks?

                                            [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Not much just 16 normal gameplay photos

                                            [–]scout033DO NOT READ THIS 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            As somebody who has been on the receiving end of asshole moderators, I feel your pain. It sucks that this happened though.

                                            [–]LyratheflirtBadass Otter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            /u/OppaWumboStyle68, if you were given another opportunity to be a mod in /r/pokemon again, would you take it? Would it depend on whether or not it was some mix up or mistake that happened?

                                            Anyways I really hope it works out the best, and that whatever shady business is going on with the rest of the mods, get's handled and ended... as well as some new moderation perhaps.

                                            [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            If they agreed that both parties were at fault (which one did) then I would. With ORAS coming up they need all the help they can get.

                                            [–]Rockslicer747Soo... Whatcha gonna do? 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            This thread is huge now, it grew quite a lot in 4 hours! A lot of people (including me) are pretty angry about you getting demodded!

                                            [–]Rodents210 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            So basically someone had screenshots from the game, and for whatever unfathomable reason this requires mod approval. You gave it to them and people got bitchy that more people weren't involved despite the fact that they weren't present to be involved. This happened like 100 times and the rest of the mod team suspiciously seems to refuse to do anything and then bitch about not being consulted as soon as one of their own actually does do something. All this because a fucking leak needs moderator approval, for some legitimately unfathomable reason.

                                            Sounds like people are way too excited to be mods and want to flex their dicks as much as possible, because I don't see how anything here could begin to pass as a problem.

                                            [–]pokemaniacausMake it Rain Baby 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            I just noticed the mods have unstickied the original thread

                                            https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2mhw5z/and_the_new_mod_is/

                                            Damage control?

                                            [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            They did a while ago

                                            [–]pokemaniacausMake it Rain Baby 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Now your post is higher than theirs, haha

                                            [–]LOckat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well that's bs. You were my favorite mod as of recent.

                                            [–]whatnobodyknew 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Oh mah gawd.

                                            [–]TCJJSpoon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I don't think the leaks were/are important at all. I think you made rash decisions. That being said, ALL of the mods are at fault.

                                            And somehow, you're still better than the janitors on /vp/. Now THAT is a surprise. Or at least, it would be, if it wasn't /vp/.

                                            [–]zedsar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Just wondering, what was the name of the YouTuber who you spent the pictures too, and did he/she make a video on it?

                                            [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Mulvone19 http://youtu.be/fnS8ZhxlOxo

                                            [–]zedsar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Thanks so much :)

                                            [–]STUNT1990 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            A few days ago I PM'd you when I noticed you where not a mod anymore to know if it was related with the leaker. At the same time I asked the same question (reverse) to the leaker and he's reply included the following sentence:

                                            Hes not upset about it he feels like it was worth it for what he got.

                                            Asked him what did you got but leaker didn't reply after that. Can you elaborate?

                                            Because looks like it turned out badly for you.

                                            [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            I am upset about being removed but I didn't tell that to anyone. Even if the leaks were not as important as expected I did what I thought was right and I don't believe my removal is justified for what I did.

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                                              [–]DISKFIGHTER2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              is it time for the pitchforks?

                                              [–]GeshtiannaShaymin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                              What kind of power do mods have if every decision needs other mods' approval?

                                              [–]Desolate_Decapitator 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                              It's called a checks and balance system. If every mod had the power to do whatever they wanted without the consultation of other mods then this sub would be in complete chaos.

                                              [–]GeshtiannaShaymin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              That system doesn't mean that decisions can't be made without prior approval, but rather a follow-up would be made to explain and correct the actions if needed and protocol agreed for future similar cases. In any other field like business or law or the military if everyone has to sit around and discuss stuff then nothing would ever get done.

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                                                [–]SnowPhoenix9999 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                Ignoring everything else for the moment, there's one thing in particular that boggles my mind: If you were able to provide the pictures to a YouTuber, that to me indicates you had saved them. How then were the dead links an issue? Couldn't you have provided the pictures to your (at the time) fellow moderators instead of or in addition to the YouTuber?

                                                [–]OppaWumboStyle[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                No I didn't save them. The leaker sent me another link that wasn't dead. I still don't have them saved.

                                                [–]XitaNullKip 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Hmm, I detected a bit of irritation going on at the end of that mod post sometime ago. Interesting to read the story from someone else's point of view.

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