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[–]OIP 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (5子コメント)

i saw that thread on SRD. it has more drama in it than 99% of the original threads posted to SRD.

"we did it, ghazi!"?

[–]Wrecksomething 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I know, right? I don't think I've ever seen SRD submission with 1200 comments. Meanwhile the deleted troll thread had like 8.

And most of the SRD comments are about how we overreacted. What? Haha.

[–]mudzeModerator[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

43 comments. Most are from accounts that have now been banned or shadowbanned.

[–]EnleatKiss Conspirator (´ε｀ ) 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The original thread when Gjoni released his post has over 3000 comments.

[–]Wrecksomething 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought about mentioning that, because the thing is, we know for a fact that 4chan and 4chan-IRC were heavily raiding threads then. That was like Peak Shadowbans, and we have the direct evidence of those threads getting shared.

[–]EnleatKiss Conspirator (´ε｀ ) 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yeah, it was raided, no doubt about it. Quin's nudes were posted as well.

[–]SJDualwieldingRogue 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Am I missing something? Has he come forward and said he was bullied for it or did he just feel bad that he made a mistake that offended people and made him look unprofessional?

I wouldn't want him to be bullied to tears, that's terrible. He seems to understand it was inappropriate to wear it at that time and I don't wish any harm on him for it. I mean damn I have a lot of clothing that is super offensive, but I know not to wear it to work or when I'm speaking as a representative for people/things other than myself.

Nothing wrong with loving sexy anime babes in bondage on your own time. Good on him for apologizing, though. I hope he's okay.

[–]NeonBlack666 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I agree with all of this. Some gators claim he received death threats and people were yelling that he should be fired. I get sick of trying to search to see if any of what gators say is true. If that is the case it's ridiculous but has nothing to do with feminism.

And I'm against bullying him at all or sending him anything. However people seem to think that people talking about shit on forums and tweets and making memes about this is bullying. When everything I have seen has NOTHING to do with the man. They are making fun of the shirt and what it represents.

And I also don't really see the big deal either about the shirt to be honest. I just don't really care about that kind of stuff but I will admit it's not professional.

[–]SJDualwieldingRogue 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, the man probably was very proud of his accomplishments in life and wanted to go down being known for those instead. If he was made into a meme that made him more well known for negative things I think I would cry in his shoes, too. Memes are hilarious, but sometimes we forget those are real people being used to make fun of shit. Unless you make the meme yourself, it has to be royally shitty to be made into one.

[–]NeonBlack666 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, but maybe I'm spreading misinformation. I'm just going by what gators are saying. I literally have not seen this outrage or memes or anyone freaking out. Other than a few smartass tweets. I see the news articles written about it but they are pretty neutral and tame. The comments on them mostly seem to be on the scientist's side.

Basically, I don't want to make it sound like all these people are talking shit, cause I haven't actually seen it. I'm just responding to what gators are claiming is happening, which is probably a bad idea.

[–]SJDualwieldingRogue 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trust but verify! I haven't seen any memes with him, either. I get the feeling they are trying to manufacture as much outrage about SJWs as possible. That guy needs his own version of #NotYourShield

[–]TellahTruth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

From what I've seen since originally noticing and posting online about his shirt(as I've been very plugged into all the comet coverage), it really hasn't been like GGers and others have portrayed it. Just as they've seen "SJWs" as some aggressive mob during GG, ignoring how they appear to be the only actual mob in all of this, they portrayed concerned women as a mob.

I saw plenty of people tweet and talk about it, myself-included, but the primary focus was "The shirt appeared inappropriate for the event and seemed to reinforce a boys' club mentality that people have been trying to overcome in the sciences for decades."

I never doubted the quality of the man or his contributions, but I did say I felt it was a mistake. And when he spoke today, he seems to have seen the unfortunate and likely unintended message he sent, and I appreciate his apparent sincerity.

Being able to admit mistakes and apologize isn't a weakness. Developer Rami Ismail pointed out today how he apologized after criticism of some imagery in Luftrausers and then received a ton of hate for "backing down". People seemed so offended by the idea of ever admitting fault, and they rejected his agency to consider and respond to criticism himself. He listened to people and responded in the way he felt was right, just as this man did today.

Regardless of him being imperfect and making mistakes like we all do sometimes, I am thankful to this man for his service to this historic mission. It's a real triumph for space exploration history. :)

[–]SJDualwieldingRogue 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being able to admit mistakes and apologize isn't a weakness.

So much this. Aside from people who are angry he didn't use this as an opportunity to tell SJWs to piss off, I'm pretty sure he'll be seen as a cool dude who did awesome things, made an honest mistake that one time, but then genuinely apologized for it and we're all going to move right along.

[–]bradamantium92 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Ugh, original troll thread notwithstanding, I just don't get the outpouring of sympathy for this guy. It's a bummer that something so important in this dude's life is marred by something so negative, but why in the world would you think that shirt is an acceptable thing to wear as a representative of something so significant? It all comes down to seeming like they want to build this man one of their much-despised hugboxes because he was upset for something shitty he did. And then there's stuff like that thread's OP:

It's like if Neil Armstrong returned from the moon and social justice hordes descended on him for saying "mankind" instead of "people".

Nope! No it is not! It's more like Neil Armstrong doing television interviews with a shirt that says "I WENT TO SPACE, BUT MY WIFE STAYED IN THE KITCHEN." It's a bizarre, unnecessary, ignorant decision, not semantics.

[–]Wrecksomething 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One thing I'll say is that this guy isn't really the problem, though he's representative of it. A professional work environment should never have let someone dress that way let alone represent them on a momentous worldwide broadcast. His individual decision, however poor, is only one part of the story.

Also I really do give him mad props for his sincere apology. Look at how many people loudly insist this was unimportant instead.

What kills me most is the Status Quo Warriors aren't bothering to show any inappropriate behavior from the "SJWs" here. They wrote some articles, talked amongst themselves. So what? Aren't these the people who insist on a right to Sea Lion and heap verbal abuse into every convo? AFAIK this guy wasn't harassed.

Commentary doesn't become inappropriate just because they disagree about its importance. But then, I guess that's all of GamerGate in a nutshell...

[–]poopteaseSuper Jacked Wrestler 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't think the dude should have been driven to tears, that's not cool, but why is the rest of this so hard to understand. No one is "offended", they are just pointing out how it might be representative of a problem...

[–]mudzeModerator[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was he driven to tears or was he just crying 'cause he realised it was shitty?

Some people cry when they get called on their shit, regardless of the severity of the backlash. The only thing I've actually seen about this has been people saying the shirt was in bad taste.

[–]TellahTruth 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you're right on point. If you watch the rest of the stream, he tears up and apologizes, his colleagues are supportive, and then he talks about appreciating the team pushing through all obstacles. Like, the whole point is overcoming errors and problems to better ourselves and missions like this.

I appreciate his apology, and I really appreciate all he has done for the mission. Seems like a decent guy who accidentally sent the wrong message, and he accepted it. That is something I can respect.

[–]NeonBlack666 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe he was crying because he realized that now he has gotten the attention of MRA, MGTOW, Goitergoats and Red Pillers who will swiftly come to his aid and he doesn't want to be associated with those people?

[–]abacuz4 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would certainly make me upset. It can't have helped.

[–]aguyuno -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

NOTE: It's worth noting that people are saying he wasn't harassed. IF THIS IS TRUE, ignore everything I'm saying here. What I've read on media and shit is that he got hit with a "storm" on twitter etc for it. If I'm incorrect, I apologise for this.

See, this is my problem with Ghazi sometimes. Really? You don't understand the outpouring of sympathy? Dude wore a shirt his girlfriend bought him, it was unprofessional and a mistake, and he's been hit hard and turned into a meme for it.

Meanwhile, we're all "understanding" of the sympathy thrown to Brice or... that other girl, I forget her name, the blonde people thought worked at Kotaku who was sprouting some hardcore "fuck men" nonsense on her twitter page? THAT isn't just a mistake - they typed those. But they deserve more sympathy?

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna call BS. The dude is a scientist and landed a damn probe on a comet - but we care more about a shirt he wore as a mistake. Which, by the way, isn't indicative of his opinion of women - it's indicative of horrible taste. Two different things.

Is the shirt offensive? Yeah, probably. Is it also largely irrelevant? Incredibly so.

[–]mudzeModerator[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I care more about the.probe, but wearing the shirt was a crappy decision. Those aren't two conflicting opinions. No one has said he was sexist. I like the dude, he seems genuine and considerate. The only thread on Ghazi that set out to abuse the dude was the aforementioned trollpost, which is why I removed it.

[–]aguyuno 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I apologise if I made it sound like Ghazi was picking on him specifically - I meant "my problem with Ghazi sometimes" in that, he was harassed for a mistake, we ignore his plight. Same thing happen to others, for debatablely a far worse mistake, and yeah.

Oh it absolutely WAS a crappy decision - not defending the idiotic choice xD. Just the lack of empathy, you know?

Great work modding as always though (not sarcasm). :)

[–]mudzeModerator[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A lot of people feel for the guy. Most here have commended him. This thread is mainly just me being ticked off that SRD is presenting some MRA jackass trolling as the default of the sub.

Thanks man, means a lot :)

[–]aguyuno 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I totally get that, don't worry. Was just frustrated with this particular thing, because it seemed hypocritical after we gave the others so much sympathy. That was my main point. I probably went a bit overboard xD.

No problem!

[–]SJDualwieldingRogue 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Who said Brice deserved more sympathy than him? If he was harassed on Twitter that's really not cool. Is the person you responded to even aware he got harassed like that?

The dude is a scientist and landed a damn probe on a comet - but we care more about a shirt he wore as a mistake.

Edit: And that right there... is definitely not true.

[–]aguyuno 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would assume they were. Ignorance isn't really an excuse though, is it? I mean, really, if you don't get why he's getting sympathy - take two seconds to google it first :/.

Yeah, probably not. Honestly, I wrote most of that out of frustration; there's a lot of me repeating myself and "anger typing" in there. You can ignore the majority of it rofl.

[–]SJDualwieldingRogue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't aware of any Twitter harassment. I'm not saying ignorance is an excuse, but maybe it was an honest mistake and you could have posted sources that spoke about the harassment, or at least explained why he deserves the out-pour of sympathy instead of lashing out and making assumptions about the entire sub. It's cool though, tensions are running high and who hasn't made some knee-jerk posts on Reddit?

[–]NeonBlack666 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hum, I guess I'm lost. I missed the thread. Was it a troll post from a pro-gator?

[–]mudzeModerator[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

  • /r/videos has a thread about Rosetta dude crying over his shirt
  • Some dickhole makes an alt account and creates a troll thread suggesting he should be fired, locked up and shunned, etc
  • Said dickhole posts a link to that thread on his main account in the /r/videos thread
  • I delete the thread
  • Gigantic brigade from /r/videos, clogs up thread
  • SRD thread gets created
  • I end up having to delete every comment in there and ban most of the posters
  • Admins shadowban some folk for good measure

[–]NeonBlack666 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup seems like your typical MGTOW bs. I've seen the same thing other places where someone will make a feminist account and then say ridiculous things about how men can't be victims. People will mistake it for a legit feminist and then they'll talk about how this is why feminism is horrible. This happens on Youtube all the time and sometimes they get found out (usually by the pictures they choose cause they are stolen).

It's so common it's pathetic.

[–]FEMAcampcounselorDARPA Chief 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So we get trolled (poorly) by some asshat, some other asshats fell for it and brigaded, and we're the bad guys? Oh, leddit.

Thanks for cleaning up the poop.

[–]armedcombatexpert⚔Social Justice Gladiator⚔ 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hooray, I caused a SRD post!

[–]NeonBlack666 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry but I can't get this out of my head. I have to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDLJi-VoVw

The art on the shirt reminds me so much of this scene out of the FUBAR where the dude talks about what kind of van art he wants.

[–]SorosPRothschildEsqВоин социальной справедливости СССР☭ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thread about guy whose life is more awesome than 99.9999% of all humans ever experiencing mild criticism reaches front page

Dude cried I guess? which is fine, but is for whatever reason taken as evidence of cruel treatment rather than him being maybe kinda sensitive...? Why can't i hold all these double standards

More than anything, bottomline is SJWs are now policing your shirts. because every single one of you, by virtue of posting on reddit, is a scientist who landed a mobile lab on a comet

ps reddit is not even remotely brocialist

[–]TellahTruth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think he saw that he unintentionally sent a bad message to many women and embarrassed his team, and it made him understandably emotional. Right after that, he turned it into something positive and praised his colleagues overcoming problems together. That it was a supportive team able to get through anything.

People should be celebrating such a considerate and honest display, not getting ridiculously angry and defensive over it.

[–]SorosPRothschildEsqВоин социальной справедливости СССР☭ -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

K N THEN????

the long and the short of this is that it's about a white geek having to confront the fact that being a white geek might not make him a progressive on every level

and basically what you're providing me with is a spin on why it's good to spend your free time making up stuff, plua some stuff where you try to tell me how i feel

:/

[–]TellahTruth 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not quite sure I know what you mean. I'm agreeing with you. Him receiving some criticism is not some great injustice, and as a decent person, he apologized.

I think a man in his position deciding to consider the response and his mistake and then give an apology instead of making unnecessary excuses is something to celebrate. Unfortunately, a lot of men are super against the idea of owning up to one's mistakes, as though it is some kind of defeat, and they're misguided to complain about this man doing the right thing by apologizing.