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[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway[S] 949 ポイント950 ポイント  (335子コメント)

For those who may be unaware; /r/undelete is a subreddit which tracks post removals from the top 100 of /r/all. You can confirm the removal by visiting /r/blog wherein you will not find the FCC post listed.

*Edit; for the record, the reddit admins have since reinstated the FCC post to /r/blog; but, as shown by /r/undelete, the post was removed yesterday while it was #1 on /r/all in order to "make way for the important announcement about Ohanian".

The reason why the removal occurred was because only one post per default subreddit can be in the top 50 of /r/all at any given time; so in order for the submission about Ohanian to be guaranteed to reach the top of /r/all the FCC post had to go. This had the consequence of removing the FCC post not only from /r/blog, but from the #1 spot on /r/all as well.

[–]legumee 660 ポイント661 ポイント  (298子コメント)

[–]dingoperson2 787 ポイント788 ポイント  (120子コメント)

To be honest, my impression of the small clique of moderators on defaults on Reddit is that they would probably be serial killers or cutting small bits of skin off people in their basement if they weren't here.

[–]AIO12 309 ポイント310 ポイント  (40子コメント)

They would first have to leave that basement, which is where their plans go to shit.

[–]DannyHewson 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Kill the pizza guy. Two birds with one stone.

[–]FirstmateJibbs 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Get two birds stoned at once.

[–]armeggedonCounselor 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, but eventually all the pizza places in town refuse to deliver to your address. And the cops show up to ask probing questions.

[–]dj_smitty 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (14子コメント)

typically the best laid plans go awry once spaghetti starts getting spilled everywhere.

[–]TerraPhane 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (7子コメント)

chuckle It's... linguine.

[–]ShardikOfTheBeam 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus, that's terrifying actually.

[–]Punkndrublic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now it's wall decor.

[–]daxophoneme 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? Their mothers own those basements.

[–]ApostropheD 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

RIP delivery man.

[–]Homozygote 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't understand why they don't just get purged. It's not like they're under contract or anything, moderators who actively try to sabotage Reddit should just get kicked out no questions asked.

[–]advice_animorph 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (39子コメント)

More like people with no social skills whatsoever who try to compensate by abusing what little power they have on the internet

[–]webslingga 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (36子コメント)

Yes! It shows you how quickly people will become despotic or even Nazi like when given the littlest bit of power. But don't worry, its all for the greater good.

[–]Formal_Sam 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

To play devil's advocate I've been a moderator on a forum before (not a very busy forum, but you still get forum drama) and I'd say there are a few different approaches to power.

You'll have a mother hen, someone who's stuck with things since they were small and has a sense of scope. They understand that their users are important but they're also wary of letting everything go tits up on accord of a few bad eggs. They're basically your average parent. They care, but they're human. There's usually at least one of these, grows with scope.

Then you have your general task force. They're normally above average users when it comes to activity and quality content, and so get given the ability to tend to their favourite places. They have ideas but they don't want to rock the boat, and normally stay out of the forum drama as best they can. It's a hobby to them, when shit hits the fan they just go do something else unless it is directly their business to deal with it.

Then you've got your bad eggs. They're like your general task force but they've usually been around a little longer (so the hens aren't as harsh as they would be to others) or a little shorter ("give them a little more time"). They don't understand the difference between being right and doing what's right and the end result is they just do not see when they're wrong unless a higher up tells them.

So when a bad egg stirs things up, the hen looks to the whole team for guidance (because the hen is wary of becoming some corrupt authoritarian) while most of the task force just kind of checks out. The only people left are the people that like the drama, normally your bad eggs, and they pick sides and schism. The hen makes a call, the flock come back, and then the confusion starts. The most level headed members of the team just trust that the right thing will happen without their input, so when the bad eggs convince the hen to make the wrong choice it leaves the task force disappointed in how things are ran and just kind of ashamed at the drama in general. The bad eggs are revelling in the drama. This cycle generally continues until your average mod checks out because management has degraded into a shouting match, while the bad eggs just get louder. Over time the ratio skews until it's almost all bad eggs and the userbase dwindles and you have a very confused and upset hen trying to reign in a bunch of bullies over the now comparably tiny userbase.

Tldr: a loud minority are tyrants, and when they are most needed it is the silence of good people that allows their voice to grow.

[–]zypo88 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sadly this has proven true for any type of movement or organization.

[–]kayessaych 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No, it shows how quickly THOSE people will do that. Not everyone.

[–]AssCrackBanditHunter 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The Stanford prison experiments are alive and well. A lot of people are unhappy on the inside and want to experience power for once. A lot of people. And that's fucked up. Says something about our society though I don't know what

[–]nomoch 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I was recently made a mod in /r/documentaries for very little reason (top post ever in the sub or some such) and the other private mod subs and chats I've been automatically invited to because I'm the mod of a default are so wtf inducing I have no words.

You have the people who run subs, basically /r/askscience, /r/askhistorians and what /r/documentaries is trying to be (which is why I'm a mod, since apparently I can do quality), then you have the subs where you just get more drama than you know what to do with just from the mods, /r/todayilearned being the most surprising one to have a ton of terrible mods.

I have no idea if I'll get demoted over this post since I haven't done anything else because I didn't want to spoil a sub that seems to be running quite well, but it has to be said that the way reddit is dealing with moderation the system is so open to abuse the that it's shocking there are any good subs at all, let alone ones with ten and hundreds of thousands of people in them.

[–]shutz2 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've mentioned in comments in various places (and even made a suggestion on one of the reddit suggestion subs) that most of the default subs should be turned into multi-reddits that automatically pull content from related subreddits, in a tree-like structure. The defaults should not have any mods, or at best, their mods would only have the power to decide which subs their multi-reddit pulls content from (but no control of the specific content.)

A good example is /r/funny: this has no reason to exist any more: there are hundreds of subs that qualify as "funny", and they could directly feed a funny multi-reddit. That way, people would participate more in the smaller subs, instead of avoiding them to post only in the popular defaults (because they want the exposure.) It would give a chance to more subs to get some exposure, and prevent a handful of subs (and a handful of mods) from gaining too much power.

It's not a perfect solution, but it seems like one that will prevent so much concentration of power. It will also let more of reddit get exposure, which should make it an even more vibrant and interesting place.

[–]TheCPUGovernor 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

ELI5 has horrible mods too.

[–]nomoch 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Imagine the worst trolls you can, ones that use bots and brigades to "get" users they feel are breaking the rules but can't because they aren't admins. Now throw in self righteousness and a clear right wing political bias and you now have 75% of the mods of /r/todayilearned that I've had the misfortune of seeing first hand.

The funniest thing is how these people convince themselves that by deleting everything remotely leftist they are being "balanced" since reddit is "extremely left wing" and need to be force fed another point of view. If you've ever had the hive mind completely change under your feet on something that "everyone" thought until what you think was yesterday more often than not its a bunch of mods deleting all the posts on the subject, any sub that doesn't go along with this is either ignored, /r/askscience etc, or taken over /r/atheism.

[–]NUTS_STUCK_TO_LEG 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was recently made a mod in /r/documentaries for very little reason (top post ever in the sub or some such)

Sounds like you'd be a great mod over at /r/humblebrag

[–]NicholasCajun 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair it seems relevant as it's a pretty silly thing to promote someone over.

Edit: But he must've deleted his post or something because he has no top post in the sub. And his link karma doesn't really make sense if there was a high scoring linked post. But it's true he was recently made a mod.

[–]Roboticide 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

TIL has been a poorly moderated shithole for years. That one should not be a surprise.

[–]daveywaveylol2 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or just getting paid to keep certain stories/information from becoming mainstream

[–]briangiles 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Seriously. I know that the Admins like to be hands off, but they should IP ban and/or remove some of the power hungry mods in some of the default subs. I mean those people basically control what millions of people see and don't see. That's a lot of power for un-elected people who answer to literally no one.

[–]He_who_humps 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those who want power are usually the least qualified to wield it.

[–]BeastAP23 150 ポイント151 ポイント  (91子コメント)

Didn't we confirm the admins were corrupted months ago? They scrubbed Reddit clean of the NY Ebola story for some reason not to mention the NSA leaks. Its only a matter of time before Reddit implodes in itself like digg.

[–]SenorPuff 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (62子コメント)

Amongst gamergate and several other things confirmed that Reddit admins were co-conspiring with others in media to manipulate. Reddit, as a corporation, plays the corporate game just like everyone else.

[–]KilgoreTroutJr 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (12子コメント)

People need to stop calling things "____gate."

[–]BrutallyHonestDude 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Should we get our pitchforks and torches at the ready?

[–]SenorPuff 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Why? Reddit is a for-profit company. No shit they're going to play the corporate game. Anyone who thought otherwise is just naive. Of course Reddit wants their payday, and only really cares about us so long as their gamble (that giving us what we want will make them money) pays off.

The ultimate solution would be to get someone like the EFF to sponsor a public forum, if you really cared about anonymous, open discussion.

[–]lockintosh 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's actually not a bad idea, except that I don't think their forum would be giving any priority to usability.

It would also serve to attract more donations for the EFF if it becomes anywhere near as popular as reddit.

[–]Ars3nic 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (5子コメント)

EFFit.com? LETS DO THIS

[–]Thengine 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Source please?

[–]Pool_Shark 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of links for both those stories in reddit.

You sure you are not thinking of a specific sub?

[–]BeastAP23 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (15子コメント)

When the Ebola story was first posted it was there for less than 45 minutes and disappeared permanently. I searched for a couple days and its clear they don't want the story on here. Some of the NSA leaks that made it clear sites like Reddit may be corrupted were deleted but you can still find them. But once its deleted a couple times and re added far less people will know about it.

I'm sure the Ebola story was taken off to stop fear mongering but that's not what Reddit is about. The administrators are too involved and the mods are a joke. This site is just really sketchy now. That being said I still love browsing Reddit for a few minutes every 30 minutes all day.

[–]outofband 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Are you kidding me? It was everywhere on reddit with apocalyptic titles and so on

[–]toxygen001 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (21子コメント)

[–]repnova 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol not sure /r/shadows belongs on that list.

[–]-dru- 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought 'Oh, cool name for a sub in the same vein as undelete' but then there was just a handful of posts about actual shadows

[–]cardevitoraphicticia 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Being a mod on a default sub is actually quite lucrative. I don't think people realize that when you own access to that many potential customers, companies will pay you for that access. They push content, drown out competition, and maintain strict control of their sub. That is why they've resisted any form of transparency.

Maybe the new Reddit CEO can wrangle this beast?

[–]mucsun 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They surely selected a new CEO which won't play the corporate game. No this sucks! It is time to search for an alternative.

[–]Outlulz 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I was told by a /r/adviceanimals moderator that I am not allowed to do 'personal attacks' (which apparently calling someone a shill is) and that if I did not cease I would be blocked from /r/adviceanimals. I stopped. But they blocked me anyway. Not only did they block me, but they shadowbanned my entire account from all of reddit. Not just that account, but 2 of my other accounts too, including one that was over 7 years old. I'm still a bit mad about that.

Mods cannot shadowban from Reddit so this person is not telling the whole story as to why they attracted the admins. Since it's /r/conspiracy I already know the answer is "because the Jews", but still.

[–]elokr 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They cannot do an actual shadowban, but automoderator can be set to do a quasi-shadowban for a particular subreddit.

[–]Outlulz 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's not what that OP is claiming they did. He says the mods of AA shadowbanned three of his accounts from Reddit.

[–]Meepster23 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was actually shaddow banned by the admins for vote manipulation and he stupidly posted screenshots proving it. The css turns magnora2 into fritzy on /r/undeleteundelete and in his screen shots the posts magnora2 made in that sub have res tags for massive amounts of upvotes to that account. Friztly in the sidebar as a mod has over 100 downvotes. He literally proved his own vote manipulation.

[–]Wild2098 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice logic.

[–]Azradesh 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How the fuck does that happen?

[–]TheDaintyMorpho 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's hilarious. /u/kn0thing is coming back as chairman of Reddit or something, maybe we can petition him to do something about the mod problem. Under the old CEO the admins were apathetic about it and were moving to give them even more power. Alexis seems like a good guy though.

[–]inkrat 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The mod problem existed before he left.

[–]ItsMeCaptainMurphy 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, you mean the admin who left to form a pretty shadowy marketing group (I noticed he didn't mention that in his "what have I been up to" summary - I'm sure it just slipped his mind)? Yeah, I'm sure he'll be great!

Also, hasn't he been on the board still this whole time? It's not like he was completely gone...

[–]pseudoguru 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Antique Jetpack. He's just as bad.

[–]sacrecide 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

someone else made this subreddit /r/undeletedundelete

[–]Slipgrid 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (15子コメント)

/r/undelete is purged and censored now.

[–]tinyroom 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (14子コメント)

look at cocojo

mod of 118 subs wtf...

[–]eberkneezer 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yes look at them . He has an 8 year old account and mods a bunch of subs where he has demonstrated that he is actively against censorship, corruption and general bs.

/r/redditcensorship

/r/FreeSpeech

/r/snowden

/r/HailCorporate

/r/worldpolitics

/r/PoliticalModeration

/r/snowden

/r/ShadowBan

/r/unlimitedbreadsticks

/r/undelete

Would a brand new account modding no other subs be more acceptable and less wtf ?

[–]tinyroom 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (3子コメント)

that's not the point, in fact anyone can just "pretend" to be against censorship corruption etc until they gain access to all the subreddits and only THEN show their true faces, after sneaking in their buddies and corrupting the whole thing. /tinfoilhat

My point is that that person is obviously not a "normal user" I think it's pretty hard for you to disagree with this.

Why I find it suspicious? Because that's exactly how they are given "easy" access to all those subs: "Hey I'm a mod at X, Y, Z, you can trust me" as opposed to a "unknown" user who is thoroughly investigated and can be easily replaced.

Anyways, reddit as a whole is becoming more and more censored, acting just like the mass media television so who cares anyway

[–]biomatter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well geez, when you use stuff like that as evidence against the mod there is pretty much no way to prove their innocence.

[–]passwordistroll 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

but he is for unlimited breadsticks

[–]Demag0gue 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's a turncoat

[–]Philo_T_Farnsworth 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Just as a fair warning, I got shadowbanned for posting / voting in a thread that was posted in /r/undelete.

I was fortunate that the admins were willing to unlock my account, but I figured I'd warn people against making the same mistakes I did. I guess use a throwaway if you want to do that kind of stuff?

Ever since then I take that shit pretty seriously, I don't have the time or patience for alt accounts and would hate to lose this one again.

[–]kerowack 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's just a reddit account man - this place is going down in flames anyway. They're all throwaways.

[–]ChristopherSquawken 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

But I have twelve thousand comment karma....WHAT WILL I DO

[–]cive666 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apply for Karma stamps, and Karma insurance,

[–]blacknwhitelitebrite 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Typical left wing solution! Show us your birth certificate you socialist! ;)

[–]Swineflew1 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're only allowed to "brigade" bestof threads. Oh and SRS is allowed too.

[–]Based_gandhi 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That reddit unwritten rule #1

[–]marvin_sirius 268 ポイント269 ポイント  (129子コメント)

Though you can still find it here or the comments here. Strange.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway[S] 677 ポイント678 ポイント  (127子コメント)

The admin who made the post confirmed that it was removed to make way for the announcement about Ohanian returning and Yishan's ouster, but why in the fuck did they not just leave the post up? They removed it while it was #1 on all of reddit.

Sketchy sketchy reddit inc.

[–]18544920 455 ポイント456 ポイント  (39子コメント)

I'd say Net Neutrality is more important than Yishan leaving this site. Silly decision IMO.

[–]Fartlesby 477 ポイント478 ポイント  (36子コメント)

Who the fuck is Yishan?

Don't answer that. It was rhetorical and I don't actually care.

[–]briangiles 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (14子コメント)

While I initially agreed with you, it's actually a really good thing he's leaving. I was trying to make a joke comment downbelow and found out/remembered that

Yishan said this:

We consider ourselves not just a company running a website where one can post links and discuss them, but the government of a new type of community.

He was the guy making decisions to ban a subreddit because of pressure from outside sources, and then forces his moral compass down reddit's throat. Whether people agree with his call or not, a lot of people don't like the idea of them trying to control morality, especially in certain cases and ignoring it when there were many more fucked up, disgusting, sick twisted pits of disrepair that are still active. See (or rather don't see): r/cutefemalecorpses, r/deadkids, r/holocaust. A whole list of terrible subreddits

Disclaimer: Don't click that shit, I can only imagine it's fucked up as hell. I felt uncomfortable just pasting those into the text box... If you get scared for life I'm not responsible!

[–]oneonetwooneonetwo 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And this was contrasted with a horrible statement that decisions to ban subreddits like /r/thefappening factored in how much gold the users bought in that subreddit.

[–]Azr79 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (14子コメント)

[–]NetPotionNr9 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Hereby it shall be decreed...

[–]briangiles 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We consider ourselves not just a company running a website where one can post links and discuss them, but the government of a new type of community.

~ yishan

[–]ZohebS 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (34子コメント)

He was ousted? I thought he just left..

[–]MrMadcap 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (32子コメント)

Because it's totally rational to walk away from a CEO position you've successfully held for years because some office leasing plans were rejected.

[–]IICVX 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was such bullshit that it even made it to NPR's Marketplace - the last thing on the show yesterday began with:

This final note on the way out, from the Marketplace file folder labeled 'corporate gobbeldygook that can't possibly be true come on'

And then the host went on to quote the blog post and also said:

No mention of Wong's public dispute with a reddit employee last week, or the company's struggles to capitalize on its enormous userbase, but hey at least it's better than "he wanted to spend time with his family".

[–]liquidben 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

FYI: Marketplace is produced by APM, a separate but similar entity to NPR.

[–]IICVX 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh I guess that's why he signs off with "This is APM". Makes sense now.

[–]naanplussed 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It has that APM tone.

[–]Msskue 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I remember him talking about how he's never going to sell out and he knows what has happened to other Startups, so he's going to try extra-hard to keep the quality of everything high... unless the interior decorator won't let them repaint upvote orange.

[–]rw_ 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The interior decorator must have been a periwinkle.

[–]Draiko 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cornflower Blue

[–]ZohebS 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Oh was that the official reason... Didn't know..

[–]frymaster 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]lacksfish 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I welcome our new overlords.

[–]reddit_crunch 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

new boss is the same as the old old old boss.

[–]alternateme 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Could it be that the board was micro-managing the CEO, and this was 'the last straw'?

[–]socsa 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Mark my words - they are seriously exploring an IPO. It's the cool thing to do for marginally profitable social networks when they reach 100M users.

Remember the rumors about karma, equity sharing, and rewarding high quality content? Yeah...

[–]kerowack 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

That'd be great. We could all leave at once a la Digg V4.

[–]lizlegit000 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

But where would we go?

[–]djzenmastak 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

we'll make a new reddit, with blackjack and hookers.

[–]colonelpan1c 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Back to Slashdot.

[–]don-to-koi 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ironic that he was not too long ago dissing another fired employee who did an AMA

[–]FourAM 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be quite honest, in the face of Net Neutrality I couldn't give a flying fuck about Reddit's management, unless Tom Wheeler himself was taking over.

[–]x4k 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Reddit is rigged. Just like most popular sites.

[–]emergent_properties 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The fun is determining how it is rigged.

[–]Clewin 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Comcast: making reddit moderators rich since 2014" is my guess

[–]TinCupChallace 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I used to do guerrilla marketing in forums. Make users, post randomly, then have conversations between myself and another user or three and ignite interest on my product. I could create steady sales and keep it flowing naturally.

I'm not saying reddit does this. But I wouldn't be surprised if certain sub reddits get an extra bump in upvotes based on marketing agreements. Just as we saw with unidan , it doesn't take a lot of power to sway the hivemind opinion. Just a little bump is all that's needed to get people on the popular gravy train and then you can sit back and let the user base do the rest.

Sponsored ads and pay per click aren't what they used to be. People are used to seeing them and I'd imagine our generation is good at ignoring them or blocking then entirely. So imagine an ad campaign that didn't need pictures or obvious ad copy. . Just natural conversation.

I'd reddit doesn't do this already, I'm happy to be a consultant

[–]mucsun 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

all popular sites

And all other media. There is always an agenda or other type of motivation behind it.

[–]ItsMeCaptainMurphy 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit Employee #1: I know, let's build a site where people can vote on what they want to see, and we'll make that the most visible!

Reddit Employee #2: Great!

Reddit Employee #1: Hey! Wait a minute! Why are the things I think are the most important not at the top of the page?

Reddit Employee #2: Well, it's not getting a lot of votes. This other post is getting the most votes, so it goes to the top.

Reddit Employee #1: But I want my information to be at the top!

Reddit Employee #2: Well....we could always delete the other one to make room for it...but that would kind of be undermining the whole concept of the site in general...

Reddit Employee #1: I don't care, do it!

[–]wwickeddogg 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Doesn't that make it even more suspicious? The CEO of a website populated by uber netizens is leaving and by the way the number one post about net neutrality is being removed.

[–]argh_argh_argh 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always downvote reddit blog posts because I don't care who's working there and don't want to see them.

[–]natched 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can pretty much always continue to see the comments/link/title of a link post that has been removed, it's just removed from the listings and search, so to find it you need to know the URL.

When a self post you made is removed, the text will continue to be there for you, but if you look at it from any other account or logged out it won't be there. Comments and title can still generally be seen.

[–]Ijustwanttotouchyou 710 ポイント711 ポイント  (117子コメント)

Added to the list of reasons not to buy reddit gold

[–]realhacker 426 ポイント427 ポイント  (82子コメント)

And so the Digg begins

[–]JamesK852 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (34子コメント)

Except now we don't have a well known equally as good rival site to flock to when shit hits the fan

[–]Rocktone 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Fark.com

Edit: I'm not seriously proposing that, guys. I'm very aware of Fark's problems. I just thought it'd be funny to go full circle.

[–]inkrat 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fark is probably the worst of all the news aggregators when it comes to admin/mod abuse and censorship. Fark is the reason the term Shadowban exists.

[–]Fletch71011 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What if we came here from Fark?

[–]pomders 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah... I left that site a looooong time ago. Why go back?

[–]SensibleMadness 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hope not, their comments section is terrible compared to reddit. Not necessarily in content (okay that too) but in how it's organized and presented.

[–]Rocktone 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more of a joke on the fact that we'd have gone full circle.

[–]dasqoot 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The headline has to be a pun, that is the only criteria for posting. The comments are exclusively flamewars with each post scoring points for how neutral it was for advertiser placation.

So every comment thread on Fark is 2 or more idiots being as horrible as possible in different ways to balance out politically. It's retched.

Everyone there (I've been a member since 2004) has an alt for trolling. It makes it unreadable after you know everyone.

[–]23423423423451 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

We can all go to imgur!

[–]safe_as_directed 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Imgur's scope is (currently) limited to just images and gifs. To be fair, this is a pretty big overlap with reddit and they made a good improvement recently with letting us filter by tags.

However, link and text submissions are the main reason I visit Reddit and I'm not migrating to anywhere that doesn't at least have text.

That said if your reddit experience is just /pics /funny and /adviceanimals you can go to imgur.com right now with almost no change in experience.

[–]InVultusSolis 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Then why don't we make one?

[–]bluebird2912 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]JamesK852 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Reddit is open source right? How difficult would it be?

[–]mcgingery 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Plenty of them exist already, just none of them are popular.

E.g, whoaverse.com

[–]Roboticide 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

We'd have to write a new voting algorithm...

[–]sealfoss 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you have money for servers/employees/workspace/etc? Because I don't.

[–]TheLastFreeThinker 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (30子コメント)

This is said literally any time the admins do anything, yet here we are.

[–]cran 197 ポイント198 ポイント  (22子コメント)

When Digg started to go, this is precisely what people said at first.

[–]PreviouslySaydrah 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (18子コメント)

A stopped clock is right twice a day. They were already saying this in 2007 when Reddit was a cute little babbling baby version of what it is now. Reddit has "turned into digg" "gone the way of 4chan" and "merged with 9gag" so many times over the years that it's almost like there are multiple internet social news platforms with overlapping user bases and administrators facing similar pressures to monetize and yet innovate and yet please users, or something.

[–]codydodd 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (13子コメント)

The biggest difference is when Digg started to fall from bad mod/admin practices there was an alternative (reddit) available. I was using reddit pre-Digg's fall from grace and watched it explode with popularity.

That said, there is no alternative to reddit right now. But if a viable one was to come up, then who knows.

[–]sealfoss 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And the moment there is a viable alternative, I'm jumping ship. There is no love between reddit and many of the users, myself included. This just happens to be the place we're spilling our brains out on, for the moment.

[–]i-am-you 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is literally the reply they made on digg before it went to shit

[–]G_Morgan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Digg didn't start to go with the most recent migrations. There were at least 4 great Digg fuck ups historically. Reddit hasn't screwed it up once. Only people who were Digg members when it was already a cesspit can seriously claim that they were there when Digg died. It died 7 years ago. It just took a long time dying.

[–]Mr_FozzieBear 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They probably said it for awhile too

[–]cardevitoraphicticia 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's all about having alternatives. If there was an alternative - I would drop this place in a heartbeat.

[–]Sonic_The_Werewolf 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Where do you think everyone will go next?

[–]CarrollQuigley 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

whoaverse.com

[–]legumee 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (20子コメント)

[–]McGravin 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Tin doesn't generally corrode to iron oxide.

[–]zeug666 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (17子コメント)

I haven't been able to figure out why just yet, but the sheets of corrugated metal that people commonly refer to as 'tin roofing' are actually corrugated steel (iron) sheet that has been galvanized.

My guess is that the early wrought iron sheets were coated in tin to protect them from rusting, which is now handled by the HDG (zinc) coating, but the name stuck.

So, those "tin" sheets can (and do) rust.

[–]verybland 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Tin roof rusted!" - The B-52s, "Love Shack"

[–]KarlthewonderYak 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You are correct. They used Terne to inhibit the corrosion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terne

[–]CaffeinatedGuy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks more like reddit cardboard

[–]Citisol 307 ポイント308 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Can't say no to that sweet comcast cash?

[–]MrCoolaidman 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Comcash

[–]marvinator90 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (5子コメント)

They love Cox.

[–]el-toro-loco 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I overheard someone say that their uncle "works for Cox", and all I could imagine is a dude standing on a corner with a sign that says "will work for cocks"

[–]Enginerd 88 ポイント89 ポイント  (15子コメント)

The actual blog post is still up

[–]Sco7689 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (14子コメント)

[–]MilkAndSugarPlease 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (11子コメント)

It's clearly hidden. As far as I can see the subreddit follows the blog chronologically, except for this one single blog post that's been taken out.

There must be a reason for this. Maybe people were making a shitfeast of the comments? As long as we don't hear the motivation behind this it's kind of dodgy of the mods/admins.

[–]SirSourdough 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (10子コメント)

They've already stated their motivations for removing the post. (They wanted to make sure that the CEO announcement hit the top of the front page which required moving (deleting) the current highly rated post about net neutrality to make way. Not totally clear why that was necessary.)

[–]MilkAndSugarPlease 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah my apologies, I thought that was just speculation. Sounds pretty weird to me. There is no way the CEO blogpost wouldn't have reached the top 5.

[–]joetromboni 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

They haven't heard of sticky posts?

[–]kash_if 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But it is not listed if you go to /r/blog. You can only see it if you already have a direct link to it.

[–]xtremeschemes 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Reddit Admins are on the take!

[–]ProGamerGov 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Make a WayBackMachine backup incase they try to remove evidence: https://archive.org/web/

[–]EngineerVsMBA 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (17子コメント)

They probably have a backdoor that let's their posts get to the front page, but they can only do one at a time.

[–]flukshun 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

But it's not listed on /r/blog at all, whereas other former front page posts there are. So there appears to be a way to un-frontpage stuff that doesn't involve dumping them in the ocean

[–]damontoo 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

They said they deleted it so the other one could hit the top. I think he's probably right. They have some admin feature to promote to the front page but it doesn't work for more than one at a time because they didn't anticipate needing to do that.

[–]socsa 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And for some reason, the backdoor requires a virgin sacrifice. And Yishan lost his nerve.

[–]JamesK852 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I thought the code is open source? Couldn't we check this?

[–]bored-to-death 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's really no way to know what code their servers are actually running.

[–]thejournalizer 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only some of it. The voting system with adjusted anti-fudging for example is not.

[–]foxh8er 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is bizarre. Ohanian is also supportive of Net Neutrality, I don't know why this would be a political move.

[–]MrDrumzOrz 202 ポイント203 ポイント  (41子コメント)

Because they gave direct access to the phone lines of FCC officials, you really think that everybody's going to be civil? I'm willing to bet that a percentage of the callers to the FCC were racist, sexist, or just downright abusive, and the reddit staff wouldn't want to admit that because it'd be their fault. So they removed it and made an excuse.

[–]reddittrees2 233 ポイント234 ポイント  (16子コメント)

FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler: 1-202-418-1000

FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: 1-202-418-2100

FCC Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: 1-202-418-2300

FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai: 1-202-418-2000

FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: 1-202-418-2400

Well then they won't have a problem with this post, will they? I mean, if the real reason was that no one would see /u/kn0thing 's post, and since these are not private numbers, this should be all good.

LATE EDIT: I would ask that if you do call those numbers, be civil. Being uncivil just undermines the cause and makes us all look like a bunch of assholes who are just spamming numbers because someone told us to. Call and tell them why you support net neutrality without being a racist, sexist or being abusive. It's much better for us. No I did not get any messages from admins or mods asking me to add this.

[–]El_Gringo_Libre 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Those are officials, their job is to field our vitriolic phone calls when they do not represent our wishes. It's called democracy, at least thats what we pretend we have.

[–]tizz66 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Call me crazy, but you don't get to be abusive to someone just because they're an elected public figure.

[–]ChetManIey 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (11子コメント)

We removed that post because if we did not then /u/kn0thing 's post would not have been seen and voted on. /u/pinwale can expand if you have any more questions, but it was not a "secret removal". We just decided to remove to make sure the announcement was seen by all.

http://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2m8ed5/reddit_ceo_yishan_wong_resigns/cm2654a?context=3

[–]kash_if 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why would it not get seen just because of 1 more post? Using that logic they should just remove every post on /r/all and just pin one single story that they want everyone to see.

CEO story is big enough and people would have anyway voted on it. Secondly, now that people have seen the Yishan story, why not restore the FCC one?

[–]pinwale 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's how our default system works. The top post in a default subreddit gets an auto bid to be on the frontpage. As we wanted the knothing's post to make to the frontpage, my post was pulled down temporarily. The blogpost was always there. You can see on /r/blog now and as always you can go to calltheFCC.com.

[–]DingGratz 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand why they should feel responsible over some people's immaturity. That makes no sense.

[–]q25t 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This actually sounds like the most plausible scenario. No real need for the tin foil hat, just a few 'Oh shit, we fucked up' moments. Best to keep an eye out anyways though, just in case.

[–]Grafeo 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So... how hard is to to do this:

"...blah blah blah blah blah [FCC phone #'s removed because of harassing calls] blah blah blah blah..."

?

[–]Youre_Government 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you guys ever seen two blog posts make it to the front page? Don't be so juvenile. They just don't want all that red text spamming /all. If you think it's that important to have that link on the front page, post it yourself.

[–]kallisti_gold 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

ITT: Tinfoil hats. Tinfoil hats everywhere.

[–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (12子コメント)

With enough money, anyone can be bought. Anyone.

[–]jsmooth7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they were bought, why is the post still up on their blog? And why would they post it in the first place anyways?

[–]JRoch 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

So I guess they're on the take?

[–]duckvimes_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then they wouldn't have made that blog post in the first place, or all of the other blog posts about this.

[–]JRoch 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Swallowing the bait AND the hook

[–]binrobinro 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's the difference between removing a post, and "mysteriously" removing a post?