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BusinessThe Reddit Admins Mysteriously Removed Their Own Post From /r/blog Urging Users to call the FCC with Regards to Net Neutrality. (np.reddit.com)

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[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway[S] 612 ポイント613 ポイント  (166子コメント)

For those who may be unaware; /r/undelete is a subreddit which tracks post removals from the top 100 of /r/all. You can confirm the removal by visiting /r/blog wherein you will not find the FCC post listed.

[–]legumee 374 ポイント375 ポイント  (155子コメント)

/r/undelete was taken over by mods who delete.

then /r/undeleteundelete was taken over by mods who delete.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2m6fsl/on_the_takeover_of_rundelete_and_the_subsequent/

[–]dingoperson2 462 ポイント463 ポイント  (53子コメント)

To be honest, my impression of the small clique of moderators on defaults on Reddit is that they would probably be serial killers or cutting small bits of skin off people in their basement if they weren't here.

[–]AIO12 176 ポイント177 ポイント  (19子コメント)

They would first have to leave that basement, which is where their plans go to shit.

[–]DannyHewson 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Kill the pizza guy. Two birds with one stone.

[–]armeggedonCounselor 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but eventually all the pizza places in town refuse to deliver to your address. And the cops show up to ask probing questions.

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    [–]dj_smitty 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    typically the best laid plans go awry once spaghetti starts getting spilled everywhere.

    [–]TerraPhane 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    chuckle It's... linguine.

    [–]ShardikOfTheBeam 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jesus, that's terrifying actually.

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        [–]daxophoneme 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What? Their mothers own those basements.

        [–]ApostropheD 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        RIP delivery man.

        [–]BrutallyHonestDude 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Hear hear.

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          [–]advice_animorph 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (15子コメント)

          More like people with no social skills whatsoever who try to compensate by abusing what little power they have on the internet

          [–]webslingga 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (13子コメント)

          Yes! It shows you how quickly people will become despotic or even Nazi like when given the littlest bit of power. But don't worry, its all for the greater good.

          [–]kayessaych 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          No, it shows how quickly THOSE people will do that. Not everyone.

          [–]blargargarg 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          like those jerks over at /r/weakfigs. Can't stand any of them.

          [–]AssCrackBanditHunter 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          The Stanford prison experiments are alive and well. A lot of people are unhappy on the inside and want to experience power for once. A lot of people. And that's fucked up. Says something about our society though I don't know what

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            [–]Homozygote 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I don't understand why they don't just get purged. It's not like they're under contract or anything, moderators who actively try to sabotage Reddit should just get kicked out no questions asked.

            [–]nomoch 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            I was recently made a mod in /r/documentaries for very little reason (top post ever in the sub or some such) and the other private mod subs and chats I've been automatically invited to because I'm the mod of a default are so wtf inducing I have no words.

            You have the people who run subs, basically /r/askscience, /r/askhistorians and what /r/documentaries is trying to be (which is why I'm a mod, since apparently I can do quality), then you have the subs where you just get more drama than you know what to do with just from the mods, /r/todayilearned being the most surprising one to have a ton of terrible mods.

            I have no idea if I'll get demoted over this post since I haven't done anything else because I didn't want to spoil a sub that seems to be running quite well, but it has to be said that the way reddit is dealing with moderation the system is so open to abuse the that it's shocking there are any good subs at all, let alone ones with ten and hundreds of thousands of people in them.

            [–]TheCPUGovernor 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            ELI5 has horrible mods too.

            [–]NUTS_STUCK_TO_LEG 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I was recently made a mod in /r/documentaries for very little reason (top post ever in the sub or some such)

            Sounds like you'd be a great mod over at /r/humblebrag

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              [–]Leovinus_Jones 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Hanlon's Razor; Never confuse maliciousness with stupidity.

              Or in this case, greed. If you don't think that Reddit mods are sold out / controlled on some level - you're naive. Reddit is just as much subject to political influence as any major publication.

              [–]daveywaveylol2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Or just getting paid to keep certain stories/information from becoming mainstream

              [–]briangiles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Seriously. I know that the Admins like to be hands off, but they should IP ban and/or remove some of the power hungry mods in some of the default subs. I mean those people basically control what millions of people see and don't see. That's a lot of power for un-elected people who answer to literally no one.

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                [–]toxygen001 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                That's why there is also: /r/undeleteshadow /r/remove /r/shadows /r/undeleteworldnews

                [–]cardevitoraphicticia 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Being a mod on a default sub is actually quite lucrative. I don't think people realize that when you own access to that many potential customers, companies will pay you for that access. They push content, drown out competition, and maintain strict control of their sub. That is why they've resisted any form of transparency.

                Maybe the new Reddit CEO can wrangle this beast?

                [–]mucsun 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                They surely selected a new CEO which won't play the corporate game. No this sucks! It is time to search for an alternative.

                [–]jus_sayin_bro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Holy shit ... i should start a subreddit, make it super succesful, make it become a default sub and get rich! Does anyone have an idea for that sub? You could become a mod there and i might even share some of my profits with you. Deal?

                [–]BeastAP23 92 ポイント93 ポイント  (60子コメント)

                Didn't we confirm the admins were corrupted months ago? They scrubbed Reddit clean of the NY Ebola story for some reason not to mention the NSA leaks. Its only a matter of time before Reddit implodes in itself like digg.

                [–]Thengine 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Source please?

                [–]SenorPuff 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (46子コメント)

                Amongst gamergate and several other things confirmed that Reddit admins were co-conspiring with others in media to manipulate. Reddit, as a corporation, plays the corporate game just like everyone else.

                [–]BrutallyHonestDude 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                Should we get our pitchforks and torches at the ready?

                [–]KilgoreTroutJr 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                People need to stop calling things "____gate."

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                  [–]inner-peace 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I'm gonna miss it.

                  [–]joebillybob 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I have a feeling if Reddit does fuck things up enough to alienate it's user base, we'd find a similar site just like we did after Digg v3.

                  [–]PrimaxAUS 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Hubski is looking promising.

                  [–]Pool_Shark 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  I'm pretty sure I saw plenty of links for both those stories in reddit.

                  You sure you are not thinking of a specific sub?

                  [–]BeastAP23 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  When the Ebola story was first posted it was there for less than 45 minutes and disappeared permanently. I searched for a couple days and its clear they don't want the story on here. Some of the NSA leaks that made it clear sites like Reddit may be corrupted were deleted but you can still find them. But once its deleted a couple times and re added far less people will know about it.

                  I'm sure the Ebola story was taken off to stop fear mongering but that's not what Reddit is about. The administrators are too involved and the mods are a joke. This site is just really sketchy now. That being said I still love browsing Reddit for a few minutes every 30 minutes all day.

                  [–]outofband 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Are you kidding me? It was everywhere on reddit with apocalyptic titles and so on

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                    [–]TheDaintyMorpho 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    That's hilarious. /u/kn0thing is coming back as chairman of Reddit or something, maybe we can petition him to do something about the mod problem. Under the old CEO the admins were apathetic about it and were moving to give them even more power. Alexis seems like a good guy though.

                    [–]inkrat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    The mod problem existed before he left.

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                      [–]Azradesh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      How the fuck does that happen?

                      [–]ajdane 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      I am getting really really sick and tired of this np nonsense.

                      It is frankly bullshit.

                      [–]legumee 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      often get scolded or deleted by mods if not doing np.

                      the workaround is pretty easy.

                      [–]ajdane 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yeah i know, not to mention the whole shadowbanning debacle.

                      I just think its BS, it doesn't help with vote bots, and it is a poorly understood rule in the community.

                      At best it prevents participation from certain groups on a large scale. Which arguably is a bad idea in the first place.

                      [–]CeruleanRuin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I created /r/AsskReddit a while back as a place to document, discuss, and satirize abuses like this, if anyone's interested.

                      Certain aspects of Reddit have been getting more and more Orwellian as time goes on. The obscuring of (up|down)vote tallies was just the red flag that woke me up to it.

                      [–]Outlulz 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      I was told by a /r/adviceanimals moderator that I am not allowed to do 'personal attacks' (which apparently calling someone a shill is) and that if I did not cease I would be blocked from /r/adviceanimals. I stopped. But they blocked me anyway. Not only did they block me, but they shadowbanned my entire account from all of reddit. Not just that account, but 2 of my other accounts too, including one that was over 7 years old. I'm still a bit mad about that.

                      Mods cannot shadowban from Reddit so this person is not telling the whole story as to why they attracted the admins. Since it's /r/conspiracy I already know the answer is "because the Jews", but still.

                      [–]sacrecide 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      someone else made this subreddit /r/undeletedundelete

                      [–]eberkneezer 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      /u/cojoco or /u/IAmAnAnonymousCoward are well trusted not to delete anything on /r/undelete that doesnt break reddit rules.

                      /r/undeleteundelete was a non-functional joke of a subreddit.

                      /r/undeleteshadow , /r/remove , /r/explain_undelete are the closest legitimate alternatives

                      Anyway, nice front page post and nice use of the facts in the comments.

                      /r/technology usually censors any type of meta discussion but I guess that only applies when the discussion is about them

                      [–]theth1rdchild 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Every conspiracy post on reddit is a little unnerving until someone comes up and says "actually you're flat out wrong" and I remember that all of these posts are bullshit.

                      Thank you.

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                        [–]Slipgrid 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        /r/undelete is purged and censored now.

                        [–]tinyroom 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        look at cocojo

                        mod of 118 subs wtf...

                        [–]eberkneezer 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Yes look at them . He has an 8 year old account and mods a bunch of subs where he has demonstrated that he is actively against censorship, corruption and general bs.

                        /r/redditcensorship

                        /r/FreeSpeech

                        /r/snowden

                        /r/HailCorporate

                        /r/worldpolitics

                        /r/PoliticalModeration

                        /r/snowden

                        /r/ShadowBan

                        /r/unlimitedbreadsticks

                        /r/undelete

                        Would a brand new account modding no other subs be more acceptable and less wtf ?

                        [–]tinyroom 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        that's not the point, in fact anyone can just "pretend" to be against censorship corruption etc until they gain access to all the subreddits and only THEN show their true faces, after sneaking in their buddies and corrupting the whole thing. /tinfoilhat

                        My point is that that person is obviously not a "normal user" I think it's pretty hard for you to disagree with this.

                        Why I find it suspicious? Because that's exactly how they are given "easy" access to all those subs: "Hey I'm a mod at X, Y, Z, you can trust me" as opposed to a "unknown" user who is thoroughly investigated and can be easily replaced.

                        Anyways, reddit as a whole is becoming more and more censored, acting just like the mass media television so who cares anyway

                        [–]Philo_T_Farnsworth 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        Just as a fair warning, I got shadowbanned for posting / voting in a thread that was posted in /r/undelete.

                        I was fortunate that the admins were willing to unlock my account, but I figured I'd warn people against making the same mistakes I did. I guess use a throwaway if you want to do that kind of stuff?

                        Ever since then I take that shit pretty seriously, I don't have the time or patience for alt accounts and would hate to lose this one again.

                        [–]kerowack 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It's just a reddit account man - this place is going down in flames anyway. They're all throwaways.

                        [–]Swineflew1 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        You're only allowed to "brigade" bestof threads. Oh and SRS is allowed too.

                        [–]marvin_sirius 181 ポイント182 ポイント  (79子コメント)

                        Though you can still find it here or the comments here. Strange.

                        [–]AssuredlyAThrowAway[S] 473 ポイント474 ポイント  (77子コメント)

                        The admin who made the post confirmed that it was removed to make way for the announcement about Ohanian returning and Yishan's ouster, but why in the fuck did they not just leave the post up? They removed it while it was #1 on all of reddit.

                        Sketchy sketchy reddit inc.

                        [–]18544920 303 ポイント304 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                        I'd say Net Neutrality is more important than Yishan leaving this site. Silly decision IMO.

                        [–]Fartlesby 304 ポイント305 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                        Who the fuck is Yishan?

                        Don't answer that. It was rhetorical and I don't actually care.

                        [–]oneonetwooneonetwo 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                        To be fair, he was the CEO of the company that runs reddit. It is a bigger one to care about than most.

                        [–]Fartlesby 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        Damnit man.

                        [–]darthsmokey 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Sheeiiiiiitttt

                        [–]oneonetwooneonetwo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        I know, I know. I'm just trying to assure you it's not some user who got banned or something.

                        [–]Fartlesby 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You had me at CEO.

                        [–]SimonWest 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        With a user , there's a possibilty I might have commented to them and would have had more Interest in. This guy.. No idea about

                        [–]Lildrummerman -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        oh fartlesby...

                        [–]kylemit 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Bro, he said he didn't care

                        [–]CUNexTuesday 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You can't make me care.

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                              [–]Azr79 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                              and they explained it by "we just decided" http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2m8ed5/reddit_ceo_yishan_wong_resigns/cm2654a?context=3

                              [–]NetPotionNr9 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                              Hereby it shall be decreed...

                              [–]briangiles 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              We consider ourselves not just a company running a website where one can post links and discuss them, but the government of a new type of community.

                              ~ yishan

                              [–]ZohebS 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                              He was ousted? I thought he just left..

                              [–]MrMadcap 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                              Because it's totally rational to walk away from a CEO position you've successfully held for years because some office leasing plans were rejected.

                              [–]IICVX 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              It was such bullshit that it even made it to NPR's Marketplace - the last thing on the show yesterday began with:

                              This final note on the way out, from the Marketplace file folder labeled 'corporate gobbeldygook that can't possibly be true come on'

                              And then the host went on to quote the blog post and also said:

                              No mention of Wong's public dispute with a reddit employee last week, or the company's struggles to capitalize on its enormous userbase, but hey at least it's better than "he wanted to spend time with his family".

                              [–]liquidben 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              FYI: Marketplace is produced by APM, a separate but similar entity to NPR.

                              [–]IICVX 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Huh I guess that's why he signs off with "This is APM". Makes sense now.

                              [–]Msskue 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              I remember him talking about how he's never going to sell out and he knows what has happened to other Startups, so he's going to try extra-hard to keep the quality of everything high... unless the interior decorator won't let them repaint upvote orange.

                              [–]rw_ 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              The interior decorator must have been a periwinkle.

                              [–]ZohebS 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                              Oh was that the official reason... Didn't know..

                              [–]frymaster 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              http://blog.samaltman.com/a-new-team-at-reddit

                              [–]lacksfish 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I welcome our new overlords.

                              [–]reddit_crunch 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              new boss is the same as the old old old boss.

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                                [–]alternateme 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                Could it be that the board was micro-managing the CEO, and this was 'the last straw'?

                                [–]socsa 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                Mark my words - they are seriously exploring an IPO. It's the cool thing to do for marginally profitable social networks when they reach 100M users.

                                Remember the rumors about karma, equity sharing, and rewarding high quality content? Yeah...

                                [–]kerowack 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                That'd be great. We could all leave at once a la Digg V4.

                                [–]lizlegit000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                But where would we go?

                                [–]djzenmastak 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                we'll make a new reddit, with blackjack and hookers.

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                                  [–]don-to-koi 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Ironic that he was not too long ago dissing another fired employee who did an AMA

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                                    [–]x4k 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    Reddit is rigged. Just like most popular sites.

                                    [–]mucsun 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    all popular sites

                                    And all other media. There is always an agenda or other type of motivation behind it.

                                    [–]emergent_properties 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    The fun is determining how it is rigged.

                                    [–]Clewin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    "Comcast: making reddit moderators rich since 2014" is my guess

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                                      [–]wwickeddogg 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Doesn't that make it even more suspicious? The CEO of a website populated by uber netizens is leaving and by the way the number one post about net neutrality is being removed.

                                      [–]joebillybob 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      What the fuck? How is it even remotely okay for Reddit (the company) to just decide their announcement is more important than any other posts? That's a pretty fucked up abuse of power. I'm not even a little bit content letting the company decide what things can and can't be on my front page.

                                      I swear to god, as soon as a reasonably-sized alternative to Reddit comes up, I'm jumping ship. This is fucking ridiculous.

                                      [–]simplequark 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      To be fair, the deleted post was also one of their announcements ,not a post made by someone else. As I understand it, they technically didn't do anything any other redditor couldn't have done with their own posts just as well.

                                      Of course they are not just any other redditor, they are the site's owners. And it wasn't just any old post, it was a political call to action. Even it isn't censorship and doesn't violate reddit's TOS: Reddit deleting their own political statements on reddit is inherently different from a Regular Joe doing the same thing.

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                                        [–]carpe-jvgvlvm 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Sketch or attention-grabbing. The isht was on popurls.com — it's too uncool, like making themselves the story.

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                                          [–]natched 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          You can pretty much always continue to see the comments/link/title of a link post that has been removed, it's just removed from the listings and search, so to find it you need to know the URL.

                                          When a self post you made is removed, the text will continue to be there for you, but if you look at it from any other account or logged out it won't be there. Comments and title can still generally be seen.

                                          [–]Ijustwanttotouchyou 402 ポイント403 ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                          Added to the list of reasons not to buy reddit gold

                                          [–]realhacker 230 ポイント231 ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                          And so the Digg begins

                                          [–]JamesK852 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                          Except now we don't have a well known equally as good rival site to flock to when shit hits the fan

                                          [–]Rocktone 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          Fark.com

                                          Edit: I'm not seriously proposing that, guys. I'm very aware of Fark's problems. I just thought it'd be funny to go full circle.

                                          [–]SensibleMadness 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          I hope not, their comments section is terrible compared to reddit. Not necessarily in content (okay that too) but in how it's organized and presented.

                                          [–]dasqoot 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The headline has to be a pun, that is the only criteria for posting. The comments are exclusively flamewars with each post scoring points for how neutral it was for advertiser placation.

                                          So every comment thread on Fark is 2 or more idiots being as horrible as possible in different ways to balance out politically. It's retched.

                                          Everyone there (I've been a member since 2004) has an alt for trolling. It makes it unreadable after you know everyone.

                                          [–]Rocktone 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          It's more of a joke on the fact that we'd have gone full circle.

                                          [–]Fletch71011 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          What if we came here from Fark?

                                          [–]pomders 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Yeah... I left that site a looooong time ago. Why go back?

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                                            [–]23423423423451 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            We can all go to imgur!

                                            [–]safe_as_directed 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Imgur's scope is (currently) limited to just images and gifs. To be fair, this is a pretty big overlap with reddit and they made a good improvement recently with letting us filter by tags.

                                            However, link and text submissions are the main reason I visit Reddit and I'm not migrating to anywhere that doesn't at least have text.

                                            That said if your reddit experience is just /pics /funny and /adviceanimals you can go to imgur.com right now with almost no change in experience.

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                                              [–]InVultusSolis 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              Then why don't we make one?

                                              [–]JamesK852 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Reddit is open source right? How difficult would it be?

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                                                  [–]TheLastFreeThinker 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                  This is said literally any time the admins do anything, yet here we are.

                                                  [–]cran 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                  When Digg started to go, this is precisely what people said at first.

                                                  [–]PreviouslySaydrah 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                  A stopped clock is right twice a day. They were already saying this in 2007 when Reddit was a cute little babbling baby version of what it is now. Reddit has "turned into digg" "gone the way of 4chan" and "merged with 9gag" so many times over the years that it's almost like there are multiple internet social news platforms with overlapping user bases and administrators facing similar pressures to monetize and yet innovate and yet please users, or something.

                                                  [–]codydodd 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  The biggest difference is when Digg started to fall from bad mod/admin practices there was an alternative (reddit) available. I was using reddit pre-Digg's fall from grace and watched it explode with popularity.

                                                  That said, there is no alternative to reddit right now. But if a viable one was to come up, then who knows.

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                                                    [–]i-am-you 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    This is literally the reply they made on digg before it went to shit

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                                                      [–]Mr_FozzieBear 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      They probably said it for awhile too

                                                      [–]cardevitoraphicticia 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      It's all about having alternatives. If there was an alternative - I would drop this place in a heartbeat.

                                                      [–]symon_says 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Except that alternative would eventually disappoint you because humanity is imperfect.

                                                      [–]Sonic_The_Werewolf 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      Where do you think everyone will go next?

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                                                        [–]legumee 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                        http://i.imgur.com/gJmH3x7.png is far superior.

                                                        [–]McGravin 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                        Tin doesn't generally corrode to iron oxide.

                                                        [–]zeug666 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                        I haven't been able to figure out why just yet, but the sheets of corrugated metal that people commonly refer to as 'tin roofing' are actually corrugated steel (iron) sheet that has been galvanized.

                                                        My guess is that the early wrought iron sheets were coated in tin to protect them from rusting, which is now handled by the HDG (zinc) coating, but the name stuck.

                                                        So, those "tin" sheets can (and do) rust.

                                                        [–]verybland 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        "Tin roof rusted!" - The B-52s, "Love Shack"

                                                        [–]KarlthewonderYak 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        You are correct. They used Terne to inhibit the corrosion.

                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terne

                                                        [–]McGravin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        That sounds like a plausible explanation, but regardless, the image used for /u/legumee's "reddit tin" is not tin.

                                                        [–]dasqoot 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        In America we still say "tin cans" even though most of us have probably never seen a a galvanized can. I've never seen "tin foil" but I call all aluminum foil "tin foil" because we have to. It's like there is a tin-lobby that is thought-policing us.

                                                        [–]Gibtohom 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        In the UK most people will call it corrugated steel roofs not tin roofs.

                                                        [–]CaffeinatedGuy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Looks more like reddit cardboard

                                                        [–]KoRnBrony 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Never Buy, Only Obtain

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                                                          [–]Citisol 173 ポイント174 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                          Can't say no to that sweet comcast cash?

                                                          [–]MrCoolaidman 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                          Comcash

                                                          [–]marvinator90 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          They love Cox.

                                                          [–]el-toro-loco 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          I overheard someone say that their uncle "works for Cox", and all I could imagine is a dude standing on a corner with a sign that says "will work for cocks"

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                                                              [–]xtremeschemes 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              Reddit Admins are on the take!

                                                              [–]Enginerd 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                              The actual blog post is still up

                                                              [–]Sco7689 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                              So is the post in /r/blog

                                                              https://np.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/2m76za/time_to_call_the_fcc_we_are_nearing_the_home/

                                                              [–]kash_if 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              But it is not listed if you go to /r/blog. You can only see it if you already have a direct link to it.

                                                              [–]MilkAndSugarPlease 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                              It's clearly hidden. As far as I can see the subreddit follows the blog chronologically, except for this one single blog post that's been taken out.

                                                              There must be a reason for this. Maybe people were making a shitfeast of the comments? As long as we don't hear the motivation behind this it's kind of dodgy of the mods/admins.

                                                              [–]SirSourdough 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                              They've already stated their motivations for removing the post. (They wanted to make sure that the CEO announcement hit the top of the front page which required moving (deleting) the current highly rated post about net neutrality to make way. Not totally clear why that was necessary.)

                                                              [–]ProGamerGov 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Make a WayBackMachine backup incase they try to remove evidence: https://archive.org/web/

                                                              [–]BIGBIGBIGMEANIE 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              With enough money, anyone can be bought. Anyone.

                                                              [–]EngineerVsMBA 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                              They probably have a backdoor that let's their posts get to the front page, but they can only do one at a time.

                                                              [–]flukshun 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              But it's not listed on /r/blog at all, whereas other former front page posts there are. So there appears to be a way to un-frontpage stuff that doesn't involve dumping them in the ocean

                                                              [–]damontoo 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              They said they deleted it so the other one could hit the top. I think he's probably right. They have some admin feature to promote to the front page but it doesn't work for more than one at a time because they didn't anticipate needing to do that.

                                                              [–]SensibleMadness 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Posts naturally fall off the front page as they age, so they probably didn't do anything special with the other ones.

                                                              [–]socsa 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              And for some reason, the backdoor requires a virgin sacrifice. And Yishan lost his nerve.

                                                              [–]JamesK852 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                              I thought the code is open source? Couldn't we check this?

                                                              [–]bored-to-death 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              There's really no way to know what code their servers are actually running.

                                                              [–]thejournalizer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              Only some of it. The voting system with adjusted anti-fudging for example is not.

                                                              [–]rw_ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              So you could easily have code in that (since it modifies voting scores) that gives any post they want lots of upvotes or downvotes.

                                                              [–]Adrenaline_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              let's

                                                              [–]MrDrumzOrz 134 ポイント135 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                              Because they gave direct access to the phone lines of FCC officials, you really think that everybody's going to be civil? I'm willing to bet that a percentage of the callers to the FCC were racist, sexist, or just downright abusive, and the reddit staff wouldn't want to admit that because it'd be their fault. So they removed it and made an excuse.

                                                              [–]reddittrees2 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler: 1-202-418-1000

                                                              FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: 1-202-418-2100

                                                              FCC Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: 1-202-418-2300

                                                              FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai: 1-202-418-2000

                                                              FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: 1-202-418-2400

                                                              Well then they won't have a problem with this post, will they? I mean, if the real reason was that no one would see /u/kn0thing 's post, and since these are not private numbers, this should be all good.

                                                              LATE EDIT: I would ask that if you do call those numbers, be civil. Being uncivil just undermines the cause and makes us all look like a bunch of assholes who are just spamming numbers because someone told us to. Call and tell them why you support net neutrality without being a racist, sexist or being abusive. It's much better for us. No I did not get any messages from admins or mods asking me to add this.

                                                              [–]ChetManIey 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                              We removed that post because if we did not then /u/kn0thing 's post would not have been seen and voted on. /u/pinwale can expand if you have any more questions, but it was not a "secret removal". We just decided to remove to make sure the announcement was seen by all.

                                                              http://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2m8ed5/reddit_ceo_yishan_wong_resigns/cm2654a?context=3

                                                              [–]kash_if 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Why would it not get seen just because of 1 more post? Using that logic they should just remove every post on /r/all and just pin one single story that they want everyone to see.

                                                              CEO story is big enough and people would have anyway voted on it. Secondly, now that people have seen the Yishan story, why not restore the FCC one?

                                                              [–]frojoe 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              This is not the answer we want to hear! Reddit is taking money from Comcast, and that's final!

                                                              [–]q25t 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              This actually sounds like the most plausible scenario. No real need for the tin foil hat, just a few 'Oh shit, we fucked up' moments. Best to keep an eye out anyways though, just in case.

                                                              [–]Grafeo 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              So... how hard is to to do this:

                                                              "...blah blah blah blah blah [FCC phone #'s removed because of harassing calls] blah blah blah blah..."

                                                              ?

                                                              [–]DingGratz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              I don't understand why they should feel responsible over some people's immaturity. That makes no sense.

                                                              [–]Wild2098 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              If only you had a reason to think that.

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                                                                [–]foxh8er 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                This is bizarre. Ohanian is also supportive of Net Neutrality, I don't know why this would be a political move.

                                                                [–]cowboyhaze 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Wouldn't be the first time Reddit did something sketchy when it comes to politics.

                                                                [–]JRoch 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                So I guess they're on the take?

                                                                [–]LingFunBy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                see ya guys. it was fun while it lasted. been hanging around here nearly 4 years ( not long compared to some of you! )

                                                                but this site is going downhill, fast, and I don't want to support something I just don't agree with anymore.

                                                                [–]anonymau5 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                I think they were asked to remove it by the FCC. Tons of people were blasting their phones, many being very crude and nasty after eventually reaching a real person

                                                                [–]Infamously_Unknown 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                This post is currently #1 in /r/technology, but it's not on my frontpage and I searched ~15 pages deep. Is that normal?

                                                                (yes, I am subscribed)

                                                                [–]Osama_bin_Lefty 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                It is on my front page at #22 but nothing would surprise me with Reddit.

                                                                [–]Infamously_Unknown 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Yup, it's there again. Weird, I ctrl+Fed several words before just to be sure and nothing.

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                                                                  [–]IamWithTheDConsNow -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Reddit admins are notorious Asshats. Aaron Swartz was the only decent one of the lot...

                                                                  [–]_____FRESH_____ 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  And the circlejerk begins.

                                                                  [–]lycium 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  with kind regards?

                                                                  [–]LordJanas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Bet Reddit gets diddled by the people they pretend to advocate against... Corrupt mods wouldn't surprise me at all.

                                                                  [–]StarFscker -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  It was because I told them utility-ized internet was dumb and got gold for it. It was all me folks. Me me me me me me me.

                                                                  [–]mjdavi111 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  It's almost as if reddit is part of a corporation,,,

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