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[–]venusinfurs10 -13 ポイント-12 ポイント  (56子コメント)

Not exactly equality if he was shoved and she was body slammed... Female or not

[–]Ubuhio 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (45子コメント)

Equality in that if someone attacks you, you typically escalate in an effort to end the attack.

[–]cnrfvfjkrhwerfh 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck if that's not a horrible, horrible precedent to set. You think it's right to escalate? Your first reaction should be to deescalate. Ramp that shit down. You're only entitled to the bare minimum of force necessary to protect yourself. Once that danger has passed, anything more is straight up wrong.

[–]onceastreetrat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats logical fallacy called a false equivalency.

[–]bmanny -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% yes. If someone has the intent to hurt or injure me I will do whatever I can to prevent that from happening. My intent isn't to hurt them the least amount possible, it's to prevent as much hurt to myself as possible.

[–]cnrfvfjkrhwerfh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's never ok to escalate. Your first reaction should be the opposite. Calm things down. Violence is only acceptable up to the minimum necessary to protect yourself from immediate damage, and no further.

But hey, that kills the Reddit circlejerk...

[–]Pan_troglodytes -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's never ok to escalate.

In an ideal world, maybe. In the real world you have to sometimes, to prevent yourself or your loved ones from being hurt. Not saying this is the case here, just generally.

Calm things down.

More often than not it's not possible to do that. If someone's set on hurting you, they won't let you talk them out of it.

Violence is only acceptable up to the minimum necessary to protect yourself from immediate damage, and no further.

Again, in an ideal world. In a real altercation it's often tough to moderate.

[–]KalianVirii -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hate this bullshit, because you're enabling....

This girl, for the rest of her life, will think "Should I hit him? He might kick the shit out of me. He IS bigger and stronger than me, should I start shit?"

And that's good. Men learn very early about "Should I start something, I could get hurt." Women, especially some of the entitled children running around today, need a dose of reality. If you start a fight, you might get hurt. The odds of getting hurt increase with the size of your opponent.

[–]cnrfvfjkrhwerfh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. Your suggestion that violence should be met with more violence is enabling. It's telling her that violence is an acceptable solution, and the only problem she had was not being able to deliver enough violence.

Punishment and deterrence should come through a completely different avenue. Violence is unacceptable from anyone.

[–]KalianVirii 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, lets take this back to basics.

Violence IS AN ACCEPTABLE WAY TO END A PROBLEM.

It is NOT an acceptable way to end ALL problems.

Is that clear? Can you seriously tell me that violence is NEVER a solution, to anything?

As an aside, how's your freshman year of college going?

[–]sharkeyandgeorge 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah it is, she took her best shot and he took his, she should have known his would be better.

[–]angry_cabbie 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shoved? I count two punches, one to the back of his head, one to the side.

[–]y2ketchup 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She punches him in the face, twice.