Earlier this week US News and World Report (USNWR) released, for the first time, a global ranking of universities including rankings by subject area. In mathematics, the top ten universities are:
1. Berkeley
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
4. UCLA
5. University of Oxford
6. Harvard
7. King Abdulaziz University
8. Pierre and Marie Curie – Paris 6
9. University of Hong Kong
10. University of Cambridge
The past few days I’ve received a lot of email from colleagues and administrators about this ranking, and also the overall global ranking of USNWR in which Berkeley was #1. The emails generally say something to the effect of “of course rankings are not perfect, everybody knows… but look, we are amazing!”
BUT, one of the top math departments in the world, the math department at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology is ranked #11… they didn’t even make the top ten. Even more surprising is the entry at #7 that I have boldfaced: the math department at King Abdulaziz University (KAU) in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. I’ve been in the math department at Berkeley for 15 years, and during this entire time I’ve never (to my knowledge) met a person from their math department and I don’t recall seeing a job application from any of their graduates… I honestly had never heard of the university in any scientific context. I’ve heard plenty about KAUST (the King Abdullah University of Science and Technology ) during the past few years, especially because it is the first mixed-gender university campus in Saudi Arabia, is developing a robust research program based on serious faculty hires from overseas, and in a high profile move hired former Caltech president Jean-Lou Chameau to run the school. But KAU is not KAUST.
A quick google searched reveals that although KAU is nearby in Jeddah, it is a very different type of institution. It has two separate campuses for men and women. Although it was established in 1967 (Osama Bin Laden was a student there in 1975) its math department started a Ph.D. program only two years ago. According to the math department website, the chair of the department, Prof. Abdullah Mathker Alotaibi, is a 2005 Ph.D. with zero publications. This department beat MIT math in the USNWR global rankings! Seriously?
The USNWR rankings are based on 8 attributes:
- global research reputation
– regional research reputation
– publications
– normalized citation impact
– total citations
– number of highly cited papers
– percentage of highly cited papers
– international collaboration
Although KAU’s full time faculty are not very highly cited, it has amassed a large adjunct faculty that helped them greatly in these categories. In fact, in “normalized citation impact” KAU’s math department is the top ranked in the world. This amazing statistic is due to the fact that KAU employs (as adjunct faculty) more than a quarter of the highly cited mathematicians at Thomson Reuters. How did a single university assemble a group with such a large proportion of the world’s prolific (according to Thomson Reuters) mathematicians? (When I first heard this statistic from Iddo Friedberg via Twitter I didn’t believe it and had to go compute it myself from the data on the website. I guess I believe it now but I still can’t believe it!!)
In 2011 Yudhijit Bhattacharjee published an article in Science titled “Saudi Universities Offer Cash in Exchange for Academic Prestige” that describes how KAU is targeting highly cited professors for adjunct faculty positions. According to the article, professors are hired as adjunct professors at KAU for $72,000 per year in return for agreeing (apparently by contract) to add KAU as a secondary affiliation at ISIhighlycited.com and for adding KAU as an affiliation on their published papers. Annual visits to KAU are apparently also part of the “deal” although it is unclear from the Science article whether these actually happen regularly or not.
[UPDATE Oct 31, 12:14pm: A friend who was solicited by KAU sent me the invitation email with the contract that KAU sends to potential "Distinguished Adjunct Professors". The details are exactly as described in the Bhattacharjee article:
From: "Dr. Mansour Almazroui" <ceccr@kau.edu.sa> Date: XXXX To: XXXX <XXXX> Subject: Re: Invitation to Join “International Affiliation Program” at King Abdulaziz University, Jeddah Saudi Arabia Dear Prof. XXX , Hope this email finds you in good health. Thank you for your interest. Please find below the information you requested to be a “Distinguished Adjunct Professor” at KAU. 1. Joining our program will put you on an annual contract initially for one year but further renewable. However, either party can terminate its association with one month prior notice. 2. The Salary per month is $ 6000 for the period of contract. 3. You will be required to work at KAU premises for three weeks in each contract year. For this you will be accorded with expected three visits to KAU. 4. Each visit will be at least for one week long but extendable as suited for research needs. 5. Air tickets entitlement will be in Business-class and stay in Jeddah will be in a five star hotel. The KAU will cover all travel and living expenses of your visits. 6. You have to collaborate with KAU local researchers to work on KAU funded (up to $100,000.00) projects. 7. It is highly recommended to work with KAU researchers to submit an external funded project by different agencies in Saudi Arabia. 8. May submit an international patent. 9. It is expected to publish some papers in ISI journals with KAU affiliation. 10. You will be required to amend your ISI highly cited affiliation details at the ISI highlycited.com web site to include your employment and affiliation with KAU. Kindly let me know your acceptance so that the official contract may be preceded. Sincerely, Mansour
]
The publication of the Science article elicited a strong rebuttal from KAU on the comments section, where it was vociferously argued that the hiring of distinguished foreign scholars was aimed at creating legitimate research collaborations, and was not merely a gimmick for increasing citation counts. Moreover, some of the faculty who had signed on defended the decision in the article. For example, Neil Robertson, a distinguished graph theorist (of Robertson-Seymour graph minors fame) explained that “it’s just capitalism,” and “they have the capital and they want to build something out of it.” He added that “visibility is very important to them, but they also want to start a Ph.D. program in mathematics,” (they did do that in 2012) and he added that he felt that “this might be a breath of fresh air in a closed society.” It is interesting to note that despite his initial enthusiasm and optimism, Professor Robertson is no longer associated with KAU.
In light of the high math ranking of KAU in the current USNWR I decided to take a closer look at who KAU has been hiring, why, and for what purpose, i.e. I decided to conduct post-publication peer review of the Bhattacharjee Science paper. A web page at KAU lists current “Distinguished Scientists” and another page lists “Former Distinguished Adjunct Professors“. One immediate observation is that out of 118 names on these pages there is 1 woman (Cheryl Praeger from the University of Western Australia). Given that KAU has two separate campuses for men and women, it is perhaps not surprising that women are not rushing to sign on, and perhaps KAU is also not rushing to invite them (I don’t have any information one way or another, but the underrepresentation seems significant). Aside from these faculty, there is also a program aptly named the “Highly Cited Researcher Program” that is part of the Center for Excellence in Genomic Medicine Research. Fourteen faculty are listed there (all men, zero women). But guided by the Science article which described the contract requirement that researchers add KAU to their ISI affiliation, I checked for adjunct KAU faculty at Thomson-Reuters ResearcherID.com and there I found what appears to be the definitive list.
Although Neil Robertson has left KAU, he has been replaced by another distinguished graph theorist, namely Carsten Thomassen (no accident as his wikipedia page reveals that “He was included on the ISI Web of Knowledge list of the 250 most cited mathematicians.”) This is a name I immediately recognized due to my background in combinatorics; in fact I read a number of Thomassen’s papers as a graduate student. I decided to check whether it is true that adjunct faculty are adding KAU as an affiliation on their articles. Indeed, Thomassen has done exactly that in his latest publication Strongly 2-connected orientations of graphs published this year in the Journal of Combinatorial Theory Series B. At this point I started having serious reservations about the ethics of faculty who have agreed to be adjuncts at KAU. Regardless of the motivation of KAU in hiring adjunct highly cited foreign faculty, it seems highly inappropriate for a faculty member to list an affiliation on a paper to an institution to which they have no scientific connection whatsoever. I find it very hard to believe that serious graph theory is being researched at KAU, an institution that didn’t even have a Ph.D. program until 2012. It is inconceivable that Thomassen joined KAU in order to find collaborators there (he mostly publishes alone), or that he suddenly found a great urge to teach graph theory in Saudi Arabia (KAU had no Ph.D. program until 2012). The problem is also apparent when looking at the papers of researchers in genomics/computational biology that are adjuncts at KAU. I recognized a number of such faculty members, including high-profile names from my field such as Jun Wang, Manolis Dermitzakis and John Huelsenbeck. I was surprised to see their names (none of these faculty mention KAU on their websites) yet in each case I found multiple papers they have authored during the past year in which they list the KAU affiliation. I can only wonder whether their home institutions find this appropriate. Then again, maybe KAU is also paying the actual universities the faculty they are citation borrowing belong to? But assume for a moment that they aren’t, then why should institutions share the credit they deserve for supporting their faculty members by providing them space, infrastructure, staff and students with KAU? What exactly did KAU contribute to Kilpinen et al. Coordinated effects of sequence variation on DNA binding, chromatin structure and transcription, Science, 2013? Or to Landis et al. Bayesian analysis of biogeography when the number of areas is large, Systematic Biology, 2013? These papers have no authors or apparent contribution from KAU. Just the joint affiliation of the adjunct faculty member. The limit of the question arises in the case of Jun Wang, director of the Beijing Genome Institute, whose affiliations are BGI (60%), University of Copenhagen (15%), King Abdulaziz University (15%), The University of Hong Kong (5%), Macau University of Science and Technology (5%). Should he also acknowledge the airlines he flies on? Should there not be some limit on the number of affiliations of an individual? Shouldn’t journals have a policy about when it is legitimate to list a university as an affiliation for an author? (e.g. the author must have in some significant way been working at the institution).
Another, bigger, disgrace that emerged in my examination of the KAU adjunct faculty is the issue of women. Aside from the complete lack of women in the “Highly Cited Researcher Program”, I found that most of the genomics adjunct faculty hired via the program will be attending an all-male conference in three weeks. The “Third International Conference on Genomic Medicine” will be held from November 17–20th at KAU. This conference has zero women. The same meeting last year… had zero women. I cannot understand how in 2014, at a time when many are speaking out strongly about the urgency of supporting females in STEM and in particular about balancing meetings, a bunch of men are willing to forgo all considerations of gender equality for the price of ~$3 per citation per year (a rough calculation using the figure of $72,000 per year from the Bhattacharjee paper and 24,000 citations for a highly cited researcher). To be clear I have no personal knowledge about whether the people I’ve mentioned in this article are actually being paid or how much, but even if they are being paid zero it is not ok to participate in such meetings. Maybe once (you didn’t know what you are getting into), but twice?!
As for KAU, it seems clear based on the name of the “Highly Cited Researcher Program” and the fact that they advertise their rankings that they are specifically targeting highly cited researchers much more for their delivery of their citations than for development of genuine collaborations (looking at the adjunct faculty I failed to see any theme or concentration of people in any single area as would be expected in building a coherent research program). However I do not fault KAU for the goal of increasing the ranking of their institution. I can see an argument for deliberately increasing rankings in order to attract better students, which in turn can attract faculty. I do think that three years after the publication of the Science article, it is worth taking a closer look at the effects of the program (rankings have increased considerably but it is not clear that research output from individuals based at KAU has increased), and whether this is indeed the most effective way to use money to improve the quality of research institutions. The existence of KAUST lends credence to the idea that the king of Saudi Arabia is genuinely interested in developing Science in the country, and there is a legitimate research question as to how to do so with the existing resources and infrastructure. Regardless of how things ought to be done, the current KAU emphasis on rankings is a reflection of the rankings, which USNWR has jumped into with its latest worldwide ranking. The story of KAU is just evidence of a bad problem getting worse. I have previously thought about the bad version of the problem:
A few years ago I wrote a short paper with my (now former) student Peter Huggins on university rankings:
P. Huggins and L.P., Selecting universities: personal preferences and rankings, arXiv, 2008.
It exists only as an arXiv preprint as we never found a suitable venue for publication (this is code for the paper was rejected upon peer review; no one seemed interested in finding out the extent to which the data behind rankings can produce a multitude of stories). The article addresses a simple question: given that various attributes have been measured for a bunch of universities, and assuming they are combined (linearly) into a score used to produce rankings, how do the rankings depend on the weightings of the individual attributes? The mathematics is that of polyhedral geometry, where the problem is to compute a normal fan of a polytope whose vertices encode all the possible rankings that can be obtained for all possible weightings of the attributes (an object we called the unitope). An example is shown below, indicating the possible rankings as determined by weightings chosen among three attributes measured by USNWR (freshman retention, selectivity, peer assessment). It is important to keep in mind this is data from 2007-2008.
Our paper had an obvious but important message: rankings can be very sensitive to the attribute weightings. Of course some schools such as Harvard came out on top regardless of attribute preferences, but some schools, even top ranked schools, could shift by over 50 positions. Our conclusion was that although the data collected by USNWR was useful, the specific weighting chosen and the ranking it produced were not. Worse than that, sticking to a single choice of weightings was misleading at best, dangerous at worse.
I was reminded of this paper when looking at the math department rankings just published by USNWR. When I saw that KAU was #7 I was immediately suspicious, and even Berkeley’s #1 position bothered me (even though I am a faculty member in the department). I immediately guessed that they must have weighted citations heavily, because our math department has applied math faculty, and KAU has their “highly cited researcher program”. Averaging citations across faculty from different (math) disciplines is inherently unfair. In the case of Berkeley, my applied math colleague James Sethian has a paper on level set methods with more than 10,000 (Google Scholar) citations. This reflects the importance and advance of the paper, but also the huge field of users of the method (many, if not most, of the disciplines in engineering). On the other hand, my topology colleague Ian Agol’s most cited paper has just over 200 citations. This is very respectable for a mathematics paper, but even so it doesn’t come close to reflecting his true stature in the field, namely the person who settled the Virtually Haken Conjecture thereby completing a long standing program of William Thurston that resulted in many of the central open problems in mathematics (Thurston was also incidentally an adjunct faculty member at KAU for some time). In other words, not only are citations not everything, they can also be not anything. By comparing citations across math departments that are diverse to very differing degrees USNWR rendered the math ranking meaningless. Some of the other data collected, e.g. reputation, may be useful or relevant to some, and for completeness I’m including it with this post (here) in a form that allows for it to be examined properly (USNWR does not release it in the form of a table, but rather piecemeal within individual html pages on their site), but collating the data for each university into one number is problematic. In my paper with Peter Huggins we show both how to evaluate the sensitivity of rankings to weightings and also how to infer bounds on the weightings by USNWR from the rankings. It would be great if USNWR included the ability to perform such computations with their data directly on their website but there is a reason USNWR focuses on citations.
The impact factor of a journal is a measure of the average amount of citation per article. It is computed by averaging the citations over all articles published during the preceding two years, and its advertisement by journals reflects a publishing business model where demand for the journal comes from the impact factor, profit from free peer reviewing, and sales from closed subscription based access. Everyone knows the peer review system is broken, but it’s difficult to break free of when incentives are aligned to maintain it. Moreover, it leads to perverse focus of academic departments on the journals their faculty are publishing in and the citations they accumulate. Rankings such as those by USNWR reflect the emphasis on citations that originates with the journals, as so one cannot fault USNWR for including it as a factor and weighting it highly in their rankings. Having said that, USNWR should have known better than to publish the KAU math rankings; in fact it appears their publication might be a bug. The math department rankings are the only rankings that appear for KAU. They have been committed entirely from the global overall ranking and other departmental rankings (I wonder if this is because USNWR knows about the adjunct faculty purchase). In any case, the citation frenzy feeds departments that in aggregate form universities. Universities such as King Abdulaziz, that may reach the point where they feel compelled to enter into the market of citations to increase their overall profile…
I hope this post frightened you. It should. Happy Halloween!
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October 31, 2014 at 10:11 am
flokapik
On another scale, that’s what some British universities do too. High profile scientists are hired part-time, and their academic achievements are counted as contributions of the university in the context of the REF…
October 31, 2014 at 11:04 am
edermitzakis
Lior, many thanks for this post, which allows at least me to explain a few things about my association. with KAU.
First of all, I agree with you that it is crazy that the KAU math department is ranked so high and it is a problem of the metrics in multiple levels that this has happened. In biology for example, KAU well below the position 100, which makes a lot more sense.
Let me also state outright that I receive financial compensation for this association, which is fully declared to my University as well as the tax authorities in CH so everything is fully transparent. Would I be affiliated and involved with what I will describe below if there was no compensation? Most likely no! But this is the case for many other activities that we do such as SABs in companies etc.
Now, is this association of scientific relevance or simply a money-making activity to “sell” citations. One could exploit it that way and in my view the people in KSA that put this together were naive to make it look like a pure citation hunting exercise. But let me say that from my perspective and after 1.5 year of being associated with CEGMR at KAU this is not the case for me.
When I was invited to become affiliated I was very suspicious. Even the message was structured in a funny way and I read the Science article discussing the issue. But I looked at it a bit deeper. I talked to a few colleagues that were already associated as well as many colleagues that were not, to get their opinion. The vast majority of those that were already associated were positive and they told me that they are involved in projects and have publications on the way. The non-associated colleagues had mixed feelings (as I did) since they had little information.
I decided to participate on an experimental basis to see what this is about. Of course, there were many problems and the gender bias that Lior mentions is there and is very well known. In my opinion, the main reason that female professors are not in the list of associated scientists is more likely due to the fact that it is hard to operate in KSA as a woman given all the restrictions so invited women would have a hard time in many of the functions taking place.
Having said that, the center I am affiliated with, CEGMR, while on the campus of the University, is at the Medical Center and is a mixed gender center. In all seminars and meetings there are both women and men (usually more women than men) and in fact my first collaborator was a woman. Here are some activities I have undertaken:
– I have already visited there 3 times and have engaged in multiple projects on colorectal cancer, breast cancer, gloioblastoma and diabetes. I have participated in the submission of 5 grant proposals (which are reviewed externally by a contract with the AAAS in the US) and have been successful in obtaining funding for 2 of them and 2 other are pending.
– We have already been analyzing RNAseq data from KAU at our lab in Geneva and more data will be coming our way for analysis.
– I have had multiple conversations and have given career advice to numerous men and women that are thinking of pursuing a career in Europe or the US.
– We are in the process of sharing with them some of our computational tools to analyze data and likely one of my post-docs will spend a week in Jeddah to install and help them run these tools.
– I have given many seminars and technical talks and have had many discussions about technical issues and experimental design.
… and many more.
I therefore strongly feel that I have attempted at least to influence and offer aspects of my experience for the improvement of the science that is performed at CEGMR.
Are there issues? Yes of course! For example, the conference that I participated only had male speakers. BUT there were a lot of women (and men) that presented posters and I was in the committee that evaluated posters and gave prizes to both women and men. In fact, in that conference women were more active in asking questions and discussing with the speakers than men and, while it may not be obvious, there are a number of fellowships just for women to go abroad and perform PhD and come back to get faculty positions.
Now about the citations: it is true that it looks a bit odd to have KAU in the list of my 4(!) affiliations. But as I said I have a total of 4 affiliations. Many of us have affiliations that are not even contributing anything financially or even in some cases scientifically but we sometimes include them. I have chosen to include KAU in some of my papers, where I admit there was no specific KAU contribution as part of the fact that I have a scientific relationship with them as I do with the Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics where I actually receive no financial support either for myself or my lab. I understand that including them gives extra points to KAU but since I am paid by them and participate in scientific projects with them, why is it inappropriate to include them? There are actually many European or American institutions (I would not like to name them as if what they do is inappropriate – see comment above) that are giving joint appointments to successful people in order to increase their profile either numerically or simply by impression.
As I said above, I would not be engaged in these activities without a financial compensation but I don’t consider this as necessarily a bad thing. My goal is to engage in further collaborations, publish papers that I would not have published otherwise (in fact we are in the process of preparing two of them), and possibly make a small difference in opening the otherwise very conservative society to the scientific way of thinking we have in the “developed” world and challenge their system a bit to open their doors to more collaborations with the rest of the world. It will be a major underestimation to think that there are no good scientists in KAU or anywhere else in KSA simply because their social structure is far from what we have in Europe or the USA.
This is, of course, my perspective and my reasons for being involved. I cannot speak for all my other colleagues affiliated with KAU but I know that some of them have similar feelings and are associated for the same or similar reasons.
When I feel that the relationship no longer satisfies my criteria I will terminate it.
Manolis Dermitzakis
October 31, 2014 at 11:20 am
Konrad
The list tells us that KAU has been funding a large proportion of recent influential mathematics publications. This seems fair. It’s slightly broken because USNWR didn’t try to measure how much ($ amount) of the funding they provided, only how many (#publications, weighted by citation count) studies they funded. But it’s nonetheless interesting to learn that KAU has contributed funding to a larger number of influential studies than has MIT.
Of course if anyone wants to read these lists for “Where can I get a quality education?” rather than “Who are employing the top researchers?” they will reach the wrong conclusions. But surely we all know that already?
Gender equality is a separate issue – you are right to point out that academics should think twice before accepting tainted money.
October 31, 2014 at 11:30 am
Lior Pachter
Thanks for your comment. I understand the point you are making but I don’t think it’s accurate to claim that KAU is funding a large proportion of recent influential mathematics. They are paying (personally) a large proportion of mathematicians (and other scientists) who have in the past published highly cited (not necessarily influential) work. As an aside, most of these faculty already have very high salaries so it is not as if they are doing work that otherwise they couldn’t do because they got this money. More likely they are buying a new car with it. The reason KAU is paying for the people with the previous highly cited work, is that this way KAU gets credit for it in the rankings. For example, John Huelsenbeck’s citations are almost entirely from his papers on MrBayes. These papers were written in the time period 2001–2004. KAU had nothing to do with it, but now gets credit for it. Whether this is fair or not I don’t know, but it doesn’t feel that way.
October 31, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Konrad
KAU is not listed as an affiliation on Huelsenbeck’s 2001-2004 papers so, unless I misunderstand what USNWR are calculating, KAU is not getting credit for those older papers. Rather, they are getting credit for work (influential work, if USNWR are successful in their attempt to measure influence) done by scientists _while they were paying a significant proportion (I’m guessing it’s typically around 5%) of their salary_. This does constitute funding the research – funding mathematics consists mostly of funding the salaries of those doing the work. So I still think that KAU funded (partially, in the range of 5% of $ amount per paper) a large proportion of recent influential mathematics papers. Whereas MIT has not.
Sure, the credit is disproportional – they’re getting the same credit as other institutions that pay 100% of their employees’ salaries and/or provide valuable infrastructure; MIT probably funded a larger amount of influential mathematics, but not spread out as small components over as many individual papers – but this is not easy for USNWR to fix when affiliations are listed without percentage contributions. The fact remains that KAU are funding a sufficiently high proportion of the researchers’ time to entice them to sign their contracts. On which grounds could USNWR decline to give credit for this?
October 31, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Konrad
Just saw your update: at $6000/month plus local project funding this is much higher than my guess of 5%.
October 31, 2014 at 12:27 pm
rparthasarathy
“…But surely we all know that already?” “We” as in faculty and researchers do, but the target audience of USNWR does not. Moreover, high school students, and even undergraduates, looking into colleges and graduate schools are often remarkably naive. (Not that I really think large numbers of them will rush off to Saudi Arabia.)
November 1, 2014 at 12:42 pm
Dave Langers
Yeah, but then blame the USNWR and blame the metric and blame the naivety of the ones interpreting those rankings; don’t blame the Arabs for having a filled wallet and a business-approach to building up their science program!
I don’t see much of a problem here. So what if these scientists get a huge salary for a few weeks involvement, and so what if they buy a car? No one is forcing anyone to do anything, and as long as employer and employee agree that is great. It certainly isn’t “unethical”. I suspect many of these researchers let a lot of that money benefit their research, so that is brilliant even! I guess the excessive financial relationship could have been a bit more transparent, but we don’t have to share our salaries publicly yet, fortunately. Also, I think it is entirely normal to affiliate institutions in some but not all papers if they contribute to some but not full level. Distinguishing between work that was done on their campus or not is not very practical when research lines cross each other all the time. Nothing disproportionate in what I read.
The whole thing about equality for women is an entirely different matter. I agree that is a huge problem in that society in general, but I think it is bad style to drag that into this particular discussion. You don’t hear me criticising US scientists for the fact that they have weird views on gun laws over there. Plus, one could even argue that the best way to change their system is from within. It is up to everyone to decide for themselves where they stand, and as long as these western scientists are not promoting gender-discrimination, I think they are fine.
So, ignore the rankings, and stop the political correctness.
BTW: I have no relationship with any of the institutes or scientists involved. Just voicing my opinion.
October 31, 2014 at 1:53 pm
Lior Pachter
Just to clarify, when an investigator labels themselves at ISI as being affiliated with KAU all of their citations (including from years ago) are counting as KAU citations when organizations like USNWR tally numbers. They don’t dig down paper by paper to see where people were when they wrote it.
October 31, 2014 at 2:12 pm
Konrad
Didn’t know that. That’s crazy, and USNWR should fix it.
October 31, 2014 at 12:30 pm
rparthasarathy
This is a fascinating post, though you missed a great opportunity to cite Campbell’s law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_law).
October 31, 2014 at 12:44 pm
homolog.us
“Let me also state outright that I receive financial compensation for this association, which is fully declared to my University as well as the tax authorities in CH so everything is fully transparent. Would I be affiliated and involved with what I will describe below if there was no compensation? Most likely no! But this is the case for many other activities that we do such as SABs in companies etc.
Now, is this association of scientific relevance or simply a money-making activity to “sell” citations. One could exploit it that way and in my view the people in KSA that put this together were naive to make it look like a pure citation hunting exercise. But let me say that from my perspective and after 1.5 year of being associated with CEGMR at KAU this is not the case for me.
When I was invited to become affiliated I was very suspicious. Even the message was structured in a funny way and I read the Science article discussing the issue. But I looked at it a bit deeper.
[snip of lot of excuses]
As I said above, I would not be engaged in these activities without a financial compensation but I don’t consider this as necessarily a bad thing.”
That big comment reminds me of an old joke.
Man to woman: Would you sleep with me for one million dollars?
Woman: Sure.
Man: How about for ten dollars?
Woman: What do you think I am?
Man: We’ve already established what you are. All we’re doing is bargaining about price.
October 31, 2014 at 2:25 pm
Konrad
It is generally considered ok for people to sell their services, even to for-profit corporations – which, per definition, are concerned with their own interests and not those of the public. But you are criticizing the ethics of accepting employment from an institution whose stated aims involve education and knowledge generation?
October 31, 2014 at 4:13 pm
homolog.us
The message I get from Jonathan Eisen’s blog is that he is publicly shaming the organizers of conferences, because they do not have about half speakers as women. If you really believe what you said, would you agree that Jonathan Eisen is wrong? After all, those conferences shamed by Eisen have stated aims involving education and knowledge generation, and typically have large number of posters being carried by women.
October 31, 2014 at 1:12 pm
Ghoussoub
Reblogged this on Piece of Mind and commented:
US News and World Report: Even stupider than the Maclean’s ranking
October 31, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Alberto Zaragoza Comendador
College rankings are nothing more than a pissing match. You’ve heard that a million times before, and now you’re heard it a million and one.
Make no mistake: it’s all about PR. Prestige. Being talked about. People, Saudis in this case, want to be SEEN as smart. Whether KAU makes any contribution to the world is irrelevant.
It’s the same reason why 1 in 2 people joining the workforce in developed countries now has a college degree…does anybody in his right mind think half of all new jobs require four years of tertiary education?! (Let’s not even mention >20% unemployment in some of these countries, including my own – just what are all these grads going to do?)
October 31, 2014 at 4:03 pm
idoerg
Thanks for mentioning me Lior. I would like to point out that it was Ruchira Datta, (who I believe got her PhD in your department!) drew my attention to the highly cited list.
November 1, 2014 at 6:46 am
Truth hurts
Hi everybody, i think that it is because of a dozen of ISI highly cited and nobel price scientists that some of these universities are now among the ‘ top 20′ in maths; you mentionned KAU but there is also KSU, and KFPMU. So i would have preferred that you also cite these scientists like Elias Stein, Hitoshi, Vieri Benci, and many others
November 1, 2014 at 7:57 am
Lior Pachter
You are absolutely right and I am working on compiling the list of all scientists who affiliated themselves with these universities to post on the blog. It is a bit of work so any help would be very appreciated.
November 1, 2014 at 8:31 am
Suhyoung Choi
These institutions should publish why their weighing of the criteria are justifiable at least. For example, the engineering schools and medical schools publish huge number of SCI papers. But how much are they worth?In many fields, such as mathematics, many important proceedings are not on the SCI list. Why are these weights better than other choices? They give no reason at all. We should demand that at least since it is affecting the universities seriously. In particular, the universities and colleges in countries such as South Korea are severely affected by these methods. The ministry of Education are using these arbitrary measures to eliminate many universities currently.
November 1, 2014 at 8:52 am
Suhyoung Choi
For KAU itself, I don’t think that their method is really out of ordinary or morally degenerate. Peking University, Hongkong University and NUS as well as many others are doing these. They are encouraging their science and education in their developing countries. But what I am concerned is the method of the university evaluations.
November 1, 2014 at 11:22 am
kentclizbe
Your hypocritical piety seems to know no bounds.
What sacred academic scripture has KAU blasphemed for you to be so haughtily dismissive of their efforts?
Note that the contract shared above requires three trips to the campus per year for teaching/research/collaboration.
Which issue most appalls you? Women or hiring scientists for good money?
They’re not the same. Why you conflate them here is not clear–except to demonstrate that you are on a jihad against KAU.
How is KAU’s hiring of scientists to strengthen their program and reputation any different than the highly inflated salaries that your holy quintium (Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, Stanford) pays its professors?
http://chronicle.com/article/2013-aaup-survey-table/138291
All 5 of your holies pay professors far above the average–some above the 95th percentile of professor salaries.
How much is that per Harvard citation?
In academia money talks and b.s. whines on its blog. Just like the real world. Welcome to it.
November 1, 2014 at 3:22 pm
KK
agreed. it is just give and take. As someone from Korea pointed out, most universities follow this criteria to improve their rankings any way. i am not sure whether this is dangerous. i would definitely take up such positions if they offer me. there should be a reason why one criticises such approaches. it should be ok totally – isi cited scientists collaborate with those universities and help their research etc.
November 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm
Lior Pachter
I’d like to respond to this comment and some of the others that have been posted defending the practice of KAU and the scientists involved.
First, as the mathematics example shows, KAU has been paying a very large number of mathematicians who could not, even if they wanted to, have any meaningful collaboration with KAU. Until two years ago KAU did not have a graduate program. Consider for example that they “hired” Elias Stein from Princeton. Did he sign the contract intending to work with undergraduates at KAU on research collaborations? The idea is completely preposterous. Furthermore, the vast number of “distinguished adjunct professors” they have hired (the title itself is ridiculous) proves that there couldn’t have been a serious intention to form serious collaborative relationships with them.
Second, KAU explicitly asked participants to amend their ISI profile. This is a highly unusual request. To ask them to do so upfront for the money is the institutional equivalent to asking someone to add you as a coauthor on their paper so you can improve your citation count or h-index. Sure, some people basically do that in round about ways (e.g. PIs paying for part of some project so they can be coauthors on it) but even then, they might pay for the *research*, not give some professors a personal cheque.
Third, I would like to reiterate, as I did in the post, that I think its not only acceptable but commendable that Saudi Arabia is seeking to build quality research universities. Although one can criticize many aspects of KAUST, I do think that hiring world-class faculty there indicates a serious intention to create real science in Saudi Arabia. That’s great. But it is not at all what has been happening with the vast number of “distinguished adjunct professors” at KAU.
Fourth, most of the individuals who signed up for this could have been expected to know exactly what the real goal of the “highly cited researcher program” was, and probably did. The Science paper I cited was published 3 years ago.
Fifth, as I think the #7 ranking of KAU in the math department USNWR rankings shows, KAU succeeded in their aim. Is it really reasonable to entertain the thought that this was an accident, and that really their goal was just to build solid research groups?
Sixth, the fact that KAU has separate campuses for women and men, and that the genomics conference I mentioned has had no women for two years running matters and is part of the conversation. KAU is certainly entitled to practice segregation as it will, but faculty from overseas are not obliged to attend their conferences. Someone mentioned the US and I agree with them- if a conference in genetics is held here and there are no women speakers I would not attend, and I would the speakers to boycott as well.
Eighth, I am surprised that hardly anyone has commented on the fact that out of hundreds of faculty being paid off, there are maybe one or two women. That is sexist in and of itself, to an extent that is shocking in the year 2014. KAU appears to have spent about $100 million on *men* flying them business class to Jeddah to talk to them for a few days at a time. Of course this is their right, but it is also the right of faculty who received the solicitation to say no. I’ve received a number of emails the past few days from honorable individuals who did exactly that.
November 1, 2014 at 6:38 pm
kentclizbe
You are still conflating two completely separate issues:
First, your distaste for activities that you see as gaming a ranking system.
Second, your distaste for Saudi culture.
Untangle those for an honest discussion.
First, gaming university ranking systems is as old as university ranking systems.
Here’s the president of Northeastern University on how he gamed the ranking system to bring his school’s ranking into the valuable real estate of the US News’ top 100:
““There’s no question that the system invites gaming,” Freeland tells me. “We made a systematic effort to influence [the outcome].” He directed university researchers to break the U.S. News code and replicate its formulas. He spoke about the rankings all the time—in hallways and at board meetings, illustrating his points with charts. He spent his days trying to figure out how to get the biggest bump up the charts for his buck. He worked the goal into the school’s strategic plan. “We had to get into the top 100,” Freeland says. “That was a life-or-death matter for Northeastern.”
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/
What’s the difference in gaming that system and gaming the citation system? Increased prestige can be manipulated–and is, every day in American academia.
As for your cultural disdain–while you’re playing quota-counter, why not check on how many gay professors were invited to each conference? How about minorities–or, what constitutes a minority in Saudi Arabia? How about counting religious affiliations of each attendee? Shoot, how sustainable is the Saudi university’s building? Do they use union labor? Are they against abortion? What about Palestine–what’s their stance? Are they including vegans in their conferences?
Where do you draw the line in imposing your cultural biases on another culture?
November 1, 2014 at 7:16 pm
Lior Pachter
I completely agree with you about Northeastern. In fact, I blogged about one of their hires earlier this year (Laszlo Barabasi), who clearly was brought in (and recently honored there) to boost their rankings. I also agree with you about the problems with gays, religions, minorities and other underrepresented groups both in the US and abroad. The difference with women is that (1) they are 50% of the population and (2) it is easy to tell when they are absent. I have no “cultural disdain” for any specific country. I am just as opposed to discrimination against women (or other groups) in the US as elsewhere.