I mean, it isn't maybe a big deal, but i hate the way that the company want to promote his own game (which by the way looks awful) using clone accounts to review their game.

Come on, lvl 0 on the three accounts that review the game, only 1 review, no avatar, private profile and nick with letters and number.

These devs are the kind of people with ruined greenlight, when other games are much better and they dont come out or they aren't as popular as they should be.

The Slaughtering Grounds in the store

sviat93 (14 hours ago*)

Report the reviews, and vote no, also make a thread on Reddit about that, so more ppl can contribute in this :P

Devs doing such "smart" things, will only make it worse to themselves most likely, as they only feed the flames of hate XD

Houdini42 (14 hours ago)

BLAM them for HERESY!

heresy grows from idleness

UltraTaber

(5 hours ago)

quasarballz (14 hours ago)

those 3 reviews :))

SHIV (14 hours ago*)

who cares? its just a poor mans version of what big publishers do, which is pay review sites for exposure and positive reviews... nothing new, this is just advertising, and i dont really see anything that wrong about it because its nothing special or rare any more...

True, blatant fake reviews aren't really anything special for indie devs. Nor is the devs attempt to censor people complaining about the reviews. Nor is the censorship triggering the Streisand effect.

When I think of video game marketing, AAA publishers can pull some pretty scummy moves, but those moves at least make sense. The probably work.
But when I think of indie devs who pull scummy moves, they are often really stupid moves. Either ones that make no sense, or ones that have failed so many times that they have their own names. Eg, the Streisand effect

Bilateralrope

(7 hours ago)

coezo (14 hours ago)

Plot twist: You're the dev advertising your game here on SG.

Mind blowing

originalnicodr

(13 hours ago)

+1, you must be a great screenwriter...

JDrakul

(13 hours ago)

Wow , my brain hurts now , thx nerd ;_;

olfox1

(13 hours ago)

IvoKing (14 hours ago)

SCREW THE ADMINS!

medve5 (14 hours ago)

and now you promote their game here (:

You have a point

Buts its looks and smells like trash

originalnicodr

(13 hours ago)

I wouldn't even wipe my feet on this game.
It's dreadful.

TryHardHusky

(13 hours ago)

DAJ01

(8 hours ago)

Morphineus (13 hours ago)

Bit surprised this was already on sale. Thought they were going for an extensive alpha/beta phase. Ah well... added my negative review.

Half the new releases open with sales lately.

BongoGT

(13 hours ago)

My bad, should have said: being sold. It's late so I have more problems to can into English. :p

Morphineus

(13 hours ago)

Ahh naw it works with "sale" too but with it having a discount already it works both ways. And your 2nd sentence actually makes more sense with your intention anyways I just wasn't thinking :P

BongoGT

(13 hours ago)

BongoGT (13 hours ago)

Well private profiles are always level 0 I believe, but you are spot on with the other observations. Funny how the reviews are all "1 of 31 people (3%) found this review helpful".

1 of 60 people (2%) found this review helpful
:'D

TryHardHusky

(13 hours ago)

Oh boy did that jump up fast haha

BongoGT

(13 hours ago)

FeiLing (13 hours ago)

Does it have trading cards?

Nope, but it gives a +1 for my E-unit. And seeing all those E-mails about enlarging one's E-unit I think I did well.

Morphineus

(13 hours ago)

Ansatsunin (13 hours ago)

Bump.

Deathtitan77 (13 hours ago)

They still owe the people in their group keys too, including me.

Their group

They actually released the keys, just in a piss poor manner that meant that anyone and not just group members could get them so they ran out of the initial batch.

DakotaThrice

(4 hours ago)

WhipCream (13 hours ago)

hmmm Hookups group (yes !! dat drama) promote this + game is vote yes for steam key

Nathos (12 hours ago*)

I've seen a thread in their Discussion page on Steam pointing out about those reviews before they delete those reviews. Then another one a while ago pointing out that they've been deleting threads. Now there's no threads.

Edit: Reviews that were deleted: Only 1 of those account had 1 product in the account, the others didn't have anything.

Edit 2: Store Page

Review 1 with dev reply

Review 2 with dev reply

That guy named Tom posted a link of his ban without any reasoning on those reviews.

Edit 3: More caps~

1
2
3

SLAUGHTERING GROUNDS - New 'Worst Game Of 2014' Contender by Jim Sterling

Now the dev is bitching about it. Plus all the posts in the forums are that of the dev.

PhoenixShi

(11 hours ago*)

I see he's trying to defend it saying it was a one person game. Why should any of us care how many people were involved in development ?

If a game is not worth the price it's being sold for, it's not worth the price it's being sold for. It doesn't matter if it's a 1 man team, or a 1,000 man team that made it.

Bilateralrope

(7 hours ago)

Morphineus (12 hours ago)

Well they responded with a dev comment on my review. Fishy thing was that they copy pasted the comment on my review to another negative review. In a way I feel like responding to which bugs are in, but then again I ask myself... why even bother it will end up being deflected.

Their intentions are quite clear with both of their products, just a cash grab with minimal effort. Still can't say they are the worst... at least they gave a key for up voting them. awkward laugh

And that's exactly why Valve should change their ToS as far as greenlight is concerned. We all know they don't plan on keeping it for too long, but at least have the decency of fixing the mess.

Tonyturismo

(11 hours ago)

well, i gave your review an obligatory thumbs up

keep it alive :)

edit: damn deletion :(

K3W3L

(6 hours ago*)

Tonyturismo (11 hours ago)

Saw a thread on the forums for the game mentioning this get deleted too.

GG, scumbag dev. I can't wait for the Jim Sterling/Totalbiscuit coverage of this.

PhoenixShi (11 hours ago*)

http://puu.sh/cyosm/d0af672751.png

Nathos

(11 hours ago)

Nailed it!

TreadLife

(11 hours ago)

Morphineus (11 hours ago*)

Claims he had death threats... I swear, anyone seems to receive them these days...

Anywho... stay classy! Best is just to report the dubious behaviour, or if you want to criticize: do it in a civil manner.

OMG death threats? This is unacceptable and never happens on the internet!

Does he have a Patreon I can donate to?

ageofarmageddon

(9 hours ago)

CARLEST (8 hours ago)

User reviews: Negative (3 reviews)

Positive: 0%

Negative: 100%

lol

FREE MONEY IS GOOD MONEY

rohankeluskar1

(5 hours ago)

murkmurkmurk (7 hours ago)

Is it just a fantasy or someone's dream of me being on gaming related forum in 2004, posting in a thread about the game that just come out? Or is it 2014 and it's actually happening? I'm a little bit puzzled by this case.

Zetikla (7 hours ago*)

..and yep, also got banned with a blank reasoing and also got kicked out of the group

just genius

Aboow (7 hours ago)

People need to realize "indie" isn't a wholistic commune. They're the same asswits as EA or Activision, recycling decades-old ideas with crappy "retro" graphics to make a quick buck and will do anything to make their shitty products sell. There's a percentage of devs that are devoted to making games and that percentage applies to indie or major alike.

I agree with you on that one and all honestly we shouldnt be more forgiving from that regards with devs, indie or not

Its almost ridiculous what somne devs permit themselves to do and by that, I mean things that no devs with a sane mind should ever do

Zetikla

(7 hours ago)

Indie is a genre. Not even a gameplay genre, just a publishing one. It only means: no big publisher behind my game. Even though I love older styled games: platformers, puzzle games, point and click games, hidden object games, pixelgraphics, pixalated grapics ; I could say I love indie games. But some a$$holes started using "indie" as an excuse to dish out unfinished games, poorly optimised games, copy-paste old ones (Why should I play with a new version of an older one if they are almost the exact same?). There are some great, fresh ideas about older game types (Retro-Grade: shmup to rhythm game, excellen one) and some not so good new ideas (Gone Home. Game's solid. It's absolutely worth a movie ticket's price, but not 20€ like in the store, this made price-content unbalanced)
In the end: Some great game could made it to the stores without publisher, and the indie genre was born. They were indie games, and great ones - therefore people started believeing, that every indie will be good. Lots of money into in, crowdfunding started, and more and more lesser (and in lots of cases, money-hungry) devs jumped onto the hpyewagon without any good idea. There are still great and good "mainstream" and "not mainstream" indie games, but there is no such general rule that states "indie = good". Because of this it's meaningless to say I love/hate indie games. Quality differs in the group, the only common thing (indie) is a payment option that doesn't affect the game's quality.

adam1224

(6 hours ago)

He kicked me from the group, and I didn't even say anything (this time)...

scaliana

(6 hours ago)

same here

Zetikla

(6 hours ago)

:/

Nathos

(5 hours ago)

K3W3L (6 hours ago)

oh well, guess it's another game i won't touch on principle

unless they implement cards (but then i'll still only idle it)

data4pass (6 hours ago)

Bad marketing is bad

Zetikla (5 hours ago)

bump

lorek (5 hours ago)

I still haven't received my key and I am a member of the group.

bananarepublic (3 hours ago)

SOMEONE UNLEASHED THE DEV!!! RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!

faboitas

(3 hours ago)

Do I dare to create a topic ?

lorek

(3 hours ago)

dont do it,its dangerous

Zetikla

(3 hours ago)

Not even a positive comment ?
btw I am still waiting for my key.

lorek

(3 hours ago*)

me too but not sure how i will get it since i got kicked from the group

Zetikla

(3 hours ago)

I don't want to get kicked out of the group. I took print screens, even if I get kicked out, I can always prove that I was a member.

lorek

(3 hours ago)

Prove it to who? They are the ones handing the keys, you can't do anything except get people to know about their game and not buy it.

Deathtitan77

(3 hours ago)

In a e-mail to the developer, when I ask for a key.

lorek

(3 hours ago)

oh boy... you and your print screens... did you get an answer from gamersgate support about warlock 2 yet? O.o

bananarepublic

(3 hours ago)

The whole community got a reply. All keys will be revoked.

lorek

(3 hours ago)

faboitas (3 hours ago)

that awesome arrow made with windows paint on the store page!!

Nathos (3 hours ago*)

Some people ...

lorek

(2 hours ago)

i think some people didn't get it. including the devs. post is still not deleted. :O

bananarepublic

(2 hours ago)

DakotaThrice (2 hours ago)

I've just reported the game as the store page gives no indication its an unfinished product. This "screenshot" states that beta keys are recommended for feedback instead of early access but that doesn't mean the game should also be on sale as a full product.

the worst is that the "screenshot" as an paint arrow in it, that should be more then proof of the lack of interest from the dev
seriously never try to promote a game with microsoft paint!

faboitas

(1 hour ago)

bananarepublic (1 hour ago)

negative reviews on store page are gone. i'm scared. ;_;

holy shit, that should not be possible
gaben fix that!

faboitas

(1 hour ago)

beziko (1 hour ago)

They seriously wan't to start war with community.

Now they deleted all reviews from the shop (mine too)! Forum is empty, only threads made in last 30 min are still on. They deleted my screenshots too with information that i tread the community rules, hah. Another devs who thinks that they have game on steam and now they can do anything :3

I hope, valve will finally delete greenlight...

Nathos (1 hour ago)

Wow devs deleted all reviews. Steam must act and punish this dev asap.

dzl (1 hour ago)

I jus send mail to eurogamer, maybe they make news about it.

im hoping that too, you should also email Kotaku, Joystick if you have some spare time

Zetikla

(1 hour ago)

Morphineus (1 hour ago)

Great... my review flagged as abusive and then not to be found on the store page. I only commented on the game, not on him, fake reviews or what happened in the forum.

Ah well, reported the game.

Zeronecromance (56 minutes ago)

Game devs shouldn't need to be doing this if they made a better game. :v

that would be waay to logical thing to do

Zetikla

(29 minutes ago)

eltorso (28 minutes ago*)

Was this another one of those "upvote and get a free key" games ? Well, you get what you deserve. The trailer is all sorts of hilarious though. Big Rigs all over again !

in what way makes the concerns less valid? or are we basically putting different standard for those games and for everything else?

genius

Zetikla

(20 minutes ago)

I wasn't implying that it makes the concerns less valid. But if you need to resort to cheap tactics in order to get on Steam, chances are your game isn't all that great anyway.

eltorso

(13 minutes ago)

yep, many times thats true

Zetikla

(12 minutes ago)

onevoltz (23 minutes ago)

Just wait for gaben to make his judgement

the mighty gaben shall punish them with his anger

Zetikla

(20 minutes ago)