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Ontario Liberals to re-introduce updated sex-ed curriculum pulled in 2010 over religious objections (news.nationalpost.com)

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[–]AngryMulcairOntario 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Good.

Way too many teens moms around here.

[–]slyder565 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

And way too many LGBT teens (all of them) that have absolutely no idea how to have sex at all.

[–]fefsyfuskyOntario 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good.

[–]crapacitor 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very good thing. Lots of parents never got proper sex-ed and aren't able to provide it to their kids because of ignorance and/or religious taboos. It's the only way to break patterns of abuse. Religious morons are against it because it threatens them, they fear their children will judge them negatively and call them out on their bigotry.

[–]joeap 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Good lord, don't read the comments

[–]Vova_PoutineOntario 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Why didn't I listen? WHY DIDNT I LISTEN?!?!?!?!

[–]Ganglebot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

HOLY FUCK! DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS HERE

[–]frsrblchAlberta 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well now I pretty much have to read them.

Edit: pages and pages of social conservative gold here. You can just feel the moral outrage.

[–]Canadianman22Ontario 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a conservative myself, these people fill me with shame. They are more like jesus freaks or church zealots. Unfortunately some parts of conservative thinking I guess lines up with religious people. I say good on her for deciding to educate children about sex and relationships in a factual appropriate manor. Listen kids today have grown up with the internet and technology from pretty much day one, with baby holders coming with ipad slots, and children being given smartphones as soon as they can go to school.

I was young in that transition age where internet was dial-up, google was still in beta and the most advance game I was playing was diablo, but these kids have full access to the internet and it is often unsupervised, so eventually these kids are going to find the seedier parts of the internet. Is it not better to arm them with the knowledge now vs letting them pick up what they think is right from porn on the internet? A childs brain is very impressionable and educating them after they have watched porn is not going to fully change how they see sex. My grade 3 teacher was almost fired for teaching us about sex, birth control methods and healthy relationships but I am glad she did and hope teachers can start actively doing the same now.

[–]KTY_Saskatchewan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can we get a TL;DR of them?

[–]PierreThePoodle 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There was one highly upvoted comment accusing Wynne of trying to "brainwash" kids into thinking that homosexuality and pedophilia are normal. I wouldn't even know where to begin with responding to that.

[–]Canadianman22Ontario [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Taxed2Death4Ever has to have my favourite so far:

"UNfortunately, corrupt Ontario union members and special interest groups elected a corrupt, radically activist, morally bankrupt ideologically warped mob of "progressives" hell bent on imposing the LBGT agenda. This isn't about "sex-ed" it's about indoctrination and the sexualization of children imposed by a very small group of activists hiding within Government tyrannically imposing their radical agenda."

It has 64 likes. My brain is melting

EDIT: And the runner up comes from Vaquero who writes:

"Attend to what? How someone freaks out a grade 3 little girl explaining how her daddy can have anal sex with her friend's daddy until their hemorrhoids pop up ?

Decayed perverts trying to justify their deviations at the expense of kids."

[–]Planner_Hammish 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Laugh. And then when you realize that they are serious, laugh harder.

[–]Ringmaster324Ontario[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Confirmed, the comments are literally cancer.

[–]Zeppelin535 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, you aren't exaggerating. First one that really made me laugh (with anger), 21 points:

Sensitizing and confusing ever younger children with sexual images so that pedophiles find easier prey. Nice job voting in a sick pro-pedophile party into office Ontario.

[–]papa-jones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I kinda want to now, but the mobile page won't let me see them, and trying to access the standard view sends me back to the mobile page. All I want is to laugh at crazy people.

[–]jihadmeathello_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're no worse than any comments on CBC articles. Dear god my brain aches when I scroll down to those ..

[–]Ganglebot 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some good news in r/Canada!

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    [–]coldnever 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (43子コメント)

    The religious people might not want to admit to this but our kids do experiment with sex at an earlier age than previous generations.

    I'm sorry to tell you but many previous generations did experiment with sex at early ages (5 yrs old) with extended family (cousins/friends/etc) and they didn't tell a soul. Child sexuality (aka experimentation) has always existed it's just been in the dark because of religious taboos. This is where abortion came from lets remember, the reason there was such "outrage" in times past is because people were getting it on and do to the hyopcritical and bizarre nature of our parents/grandparents/etc. Lead to all sorts of stupid ass behaviour. The reality is past generations were nutters and couldn't deal with human sexuality with intelligence, so you got all sorts of bizarre behavior because of the screwed up cultural/religious roots of north americas past.

    [–]iwillbehave 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (38子コメント)

    Sorry, I was neither into incest nor religious. We started sex ed in grade 5 [age 11] and that seemed to work out fine.

    If your 5 year old kid is getting it on with a family member you really need to address that. It's not normal. That's not God speaking that's just reality.

    [–]coldnever 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (37子コメント)

    It's not normal. That's not God speaking that's just reality.

    I'm sorry but it is normal, many first/second cousins it was common to marry in many societies so it would be obvious to deduce that many marriages first had their basis in "playing doctor" as kids. Kids do what they do out of auto-erotic reflexes and is documented in other cultures. You just happen to be scientifically illiterate.

    [–]thoughtcrime69Ontario 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm sorry but it is normal, many first/second cousins it was common to marry in many societies so it would be obvious to deduce that many marriages first had their basis in "playing doctor" as kids.

    Dude, I loved you in Wolf of Wallstreet

    [–]iwillbehave -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (35子コメント)

    You're just fucked up is all. Again I wasn't raised religious or even with any sort of sexualized training from my parents. I don't recall trying to feel up my cousins ever because they were my family and it was just common knowledge that that was inappropriate (also as a 5 year old I wasn't thinking about sex).

    If your 5 year old is hypersexualized you really should address that.

    Also I'm not going to look at other cultures who do things like arranged marriages, or say throwing oil and lighting their wives on fire ... as a sign of how to raise my kids.

    There is a middle ground between being hypersexualized and generally afraid of the other sex (which was more the norm for kids growing up in the 80s/90s). I agree with sex ed starting around age 10-11 but just because they're learning about it doesn't mean they have to do it.

    I mean I learned about drinking when I was a kid, heck I had my first sip of champagne before I was 10. Doesn't mean I became a regular drinker just because I learned about drinking ... I didn't start drinking until after college more or less.

    Kids really should be encouraged to abstain from sex not only because they're not prepared for the consequences but because they're not emotionally developed enough to handle relationships... I mean would you want your parents to split up because they fought over a snap bracelet at recess?

    [–]notandxor 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Some people are more sexualized than others. You can't claim to be the 'normal' one from just your experiences. I am exactly like you and never had any sexual urges till I was well into my teens. However I know some people who have had a bigger curiosity about sex when they were younger than 10.

    [–]iwillbehave 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I was curious about many things when I was a kid. Doesn't mean I acted out on them.

    [–]notandxor 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Yes, and others might have. That doesnt mean they are not normal. Its not immoral or fucked up either . Why should it be weird that people are curious about the most important thing we are biologically programmed to do? What does age have to do with it? Its just a societal construct that we should not be thinking about sex before 16.

    [–]iwillbehave -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's advantageous to our goals as a society to not be sexually active before we can establish a career.

    If you don't care about the goals of your society then I guess fucking your sister when you're 5 makes sense.

    [–]notandxor 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Of course, thats why we as a society have developed these laws. But human biology and psychology don't follow our laws and to say that kids who mess around are fucked up is wrong.

    All I'm saying is that we shouldnt judge them for wanted to act out their desires. We should be educating as to why its not a good idea. Calling them fucked up will cause them to think something is wrong with them when that is not the case.

    [–]PhallindromeBritish Columbia [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Shame on those five year old children for not prioritizing the goals of society over their own interests!

    [–]coldnever 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (28子コメント)

    Again I wasn't raised religious or even with any sort of sexualized training from my parents.

    Oh but that is irrelevant since most of north american culture was christian and prude, you get christian culture by proxy.

    [–]iwillbehave -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (27子コメント)

    Be that as it may, acting out sexual impulses when you're 5 is inappropriate. It'd be no different than acting out selfish or violent impulses. As a parent you teach them to curb them and act appropriately. When they're older (10-11ish) you teach them more about anatomy, family dynamics, responsibilities, etc... that way they appreciate that acting our their sexual urges as teenagers can have strong consequences and they're more likely to at the very least use BC/condoms but ideally just wait till they're older to form meaningful relationships [and not just high school dating bullshit].

    It's like showing slasher flicks to kids. You show it to a 15 year old and they know it's fake and are less likely to identify with it. You show it to a 10 year old and they still know it's fake but they may want to emulate bits of it. You show it to a 5 year old and they'll likely freak the fuck out because they're unable to evaluate what is real and not.

    People have to stop thinking of their kids as "small adults." They're not. Even teenagers look at the world differently than adults.

    [–]coldnever 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (26子コメント)

    Be that as it may, acting out sexual impulses when you're 5 is inappropriate.

    Once again you are scientifically illiterate, evolution doesn't care what you deem appropriate or not. Human beings are not free their behavior is based on biological reflexes, aka unconscious processes they have no control over.

    The enlightenment was wrong about how human reasoning works. Just because you think you live 'in reality' doesn't mean it is "reality".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

    [–]iwillbehave -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (25子コメント)

    Society is not an evolutionary product. That's why we have biologically inferior people contributing more to the development of society [laws/policies] than healthier people. So uh, fuck off with your evolutionary bullshit. Yes, as a species we can reproduce earlier than society would like. So either you rise above your instincts or you forgo society.

    I don't even know what you're arguing for? Are you saying we should encourage our kids to sexually experiment with their siblings?Maybe I'm just not a pervert like you are and I can't see where you're coming from.

    Again this is another reddit debate that is going sideways because you can't realize that I'm actually a fairly strong middle grounder on this issue. I'm actually for sex-ed classes/etc. I'm just against the idea that pre-teens and even teenagers being sexually active is not a good idea (they're not emotionally ready for it, not financially ready for it, not really thinking through the potential for STIs, etc...).

    Instead you're maintaining that I'm some abstinence-only hardliner just because I don't agree with you...

    [–]Cheese_Bits[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    Society is not an evolutionary product.

    Sure... and the fact great apes also have a highly stratified aociety is what? Monkey see monkey do?

    That's why we have biologically inferior people contributing more to the development of society [laws/policies] than healthier people. So uh, fuck off with your evolutionary bullshit.

    Interesting, a eugenics supporter who simultaneously dismisses evolution... Ill be damned.

    [–]coldnever -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Society is not an evolutionary product.

    I'm sorry but you're wrong.

    That's why we have biologically inferior people contributing more to the development of society [laws/policies] than healthier people. So uh, fuck off with your evolutionary bullshit.

    Well goodbye, because you obviously are too immature to try to understand the biochemical roots of human behavior.

    [–]CDN_Rattus -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Ha! This entire sub-thread pretty much summarizes what is wrong with government forcing their version of morality on people. One guy thinks 5 year old getting jiggy with cousins is OK and another is outraged that guy one thinks that is normal. 50 shades of grey and the government wants to tell you which ones are ok.

    [–]coldnever 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The problem is that human beings are bad at reality, when they come across things that are emotionally uncomfortable they stick their heads in the sand instead of being calm, standing back and trying to understand.

    The lack of adults is the issue sadly, most adults are adults in name only.

    [–]CDN_Rattus -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The problem is that human beings are bad at reality

    And government is? How about we simply let parents teach morality at home and the schools can concentrate on stuff like math?

    [–]kochevnikov [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    But that's an argument for government education. If you really want to teach kids some really fucked up things, let them learn from their dumbfuck hillbilly parents.

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Now all they have to do is provide real female centric birth control to all women of childbearing age, yes even your teenaged daughters, and these two facts, according to several studies, will drop the number of abortions by up to 70%.

    [–]SmallTownTokenBrownOntario [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    Honest question, what would be considered female centric birth control vs non female centric birth control?

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Contraception specifically designed for women for example birth control pills.. Condoms are not female centric.

    [–]bleachyourownass 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    The Muslims and Catholics, among others, won't like that one bit.

    [–]canashian 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    To be fair, is there anything you could do that stern Catholics would like?

    Except Pope Francis. That guy seems cool.

    [–]hillcrestwest 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Pope Francis actually doesn't seem like the kind of person all stern Catholics would like.

    Non catholics and more moderate catholics seem to like him though.

    [–]canashian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Like Danny on The Mindy Project.

    "I'm more Catholic than Pope Francis. I mean, why is that guy so chill?"

    [–]snorlax- 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's because anyone who considers themselves a stern catholic at this juncture is a big believer in the doctrine of the church and not being catholic through their actions like Pope Francis is encouraging, largely as a result of the Church (and successive popes') focus on doctrine for much of the last century. Doctrine-centric catholics are generally very judgmental people. Jesuits are generally the most intelligent, pragmatic and least hypocritical amongst the church.

    [–]RationalSocialistOntario 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No

    [–]thehorsemouth 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    when the Catholics and Muslims are offended it means something is being done right.

    [–]MrRtdCanada 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think you meant to say religious nutcases with intolerant mindsets won't like that one bit.

    [–]crapacitor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fuck bigots.

    [–]crapacitor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Screw them.

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Then the Catholics can go live in the Vatican and the Muslims can pick an Islamic country of their choice.

    [–]2brun4u 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And that's why ISIS is a thing

    [–]trhaynes -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Abso-friggin-lutely we don't. If this crap goes through, homeschooling is going to explode in Ontario.

    [–]2brun4u 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sex-ed is the main reason why homeschooling existed. It's going to get ridiculous now.

    [–]idunreallyunderstandCanada [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    The reintroduced sex ed curriculum will teach children about homosexuality and same-sex marriages in Grade 3, encourage discussions about puberty, including masturbation, in Grade 6, and talk about preventing sexually transmitted diseases in Grade 7, which could include information about oral and anal sex.

    Woah. These age groups seem a little young to me. No? Better to educate them early, I guess.

    [–]trhaynes -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (19子コメント)

    This comment on that article says it all:

    "“Youth today need knowledge and skills to respond to these realities … associated with the rapidly changing, technology-driven world, while also managing the risks and challenges of cyber-bullying, sexting, the prevalence of online pornography and other such issues,” reads a parents’ section on the Education Ministry website."

    A parent's job, not a teacher, not the state. Liberal ideologicall nannyism. Wynne gone wild.

    [–]criss990 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    What if your parents are:

    1) dead
    2) unfamiliar with 21st century safe sex
    3) overly religious and refuse to educate their kids on safe sex
    4) don't have the educational background or knowhow to teach about STIs

    [–]goinupwayup -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    How old do you think the parents of an 11 year old are? Typically mid thirties. You talk like they are senile.

    [–]criss990 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    When I was eleven my parents were 43 and recent immigrants. They knew nothing about pregnancy prevention and even less about STIs. Perhaps if you have the benefit of parents born and raised in Canada you might be correct, but as more and more students are children of newcomers, we need sex ed to be uniform and fact-based rather than culturally dictated

    [–]goinupwayup -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    So it seems that this is something that should be handled in immigration and not in the public schools.

    [–]criss990 [非表示スコア]  (5子コメント)

    Good luck trying to teach adults set in their ways.

    Better to get them while they're young and open to facts rather than blinded by cultural asshattery

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

    And why does an 11 year old need to be taught by a grown man about masturbation? There is nothing to gain from that.

    Knowing about STI's and safe sex (including abstinence) is absolutely a good thing, but all the meta crap to go with it is not necessary.

    [–]criss990 [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

    You keep shifting your goalposts. Now its okay for them to learn about anal sex?

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

    Who says I opposed that in the first place? Life's not black and white. I agree with teaching them about the details of safe sex, just not the mechanics of fun sex.

    [–]criss990 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    What makes you think they're going to teach the mechanics of fun sex?

    [–]HodorUnchained 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    What if your parents grew up in a different generation, where they weren't exposed to modern challenges in sex ed?

    [–]trhaynes -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    The state's right to educate a child is subordinate to the parent's authority to do so by virtue of the fact that the state exists to serve the people, not the other way around. Even if the parent is a numbskull dimwit, the state is the servant of the people, and does not have an overriding claim on the parent's children, or on the education of the parent's children.

    [–]mattbin 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Those arguments seem similar to the arguments employed by the anti-vaccination crowd, to me. And the counter-argument is that someone who isn't aware of safe conduct is a danger not just to themselves, but to the rest of society as well.

    [–]trhaynes -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Vaccination and the spread of viruses is pretty different from indoctrination of children in sexual mores that are at odds with historically stable family life.

    I'm pretty surprised that you give the state the final say in what is taught to all children everywhere, trumping parental authority. That's a giant risk to take.

    [–]mattbin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    First, a large part of sexual education is to help limit the spread of diseases, as well as other unwanted results of sexual activity (e.g. unwanted pregnancy, sexual abuse).

    Second, among "sexual mores that are at odds with historically stable family life" are you including the treatment of women as property? The lack of sexual agency for women? Lack of access to contraception and abortion? If so, damn right I'm looking to give children values that are at odds with "historically stable family life". (By the same token, I'm against mores that are at odds with historically stable economies, like slavery.)

    Third, I don't know how sexual education is giving the state the final say in what is taught to all children everywhere (great straw man, though, A for effort in logical fallacies). Are you in favour of parents teaching evolution (or other pedagogical mores that are at odds with historically stable religious life) and schools not being allowed to teach it?

    If we're talking about my views in general, here, I'm in favour of individual parents not being the final arbiters of what should and shouldn't be taught to kids in general in schools. Because some parents are very, very stupid.

    Out of curiosity, are you a parent?

    [–]Takokun 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    sexual mores that are at odds with historically stable family life.

    Oh christ, are you serious? There's a multitude of reputable studies that show that kids raised in alternative households come out just as well as their more ordinary counterparts

    [–]havearedpill 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This guy's a Catholic right-wing nut-job. Pay him no mind.

    [–]SmallTownTokenBrownOntario [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Keep him commenting..... gets popcorn

    [–]MrRtdCanada 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sadly that sort of comment is typical in The National Post comment section.

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (14子コメント)

    The thing is, if parents were doing it then the schools would not have to.

    [–]iTorontoOntario [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    The thing is, if parents were doing it then the schools would not have to.

    That can be said for any subject. Math, English, Geography, History, etc. Parents CAN choose to do all of these at home via home schooling. Otherwise, sex ed is part of the curriculum.

    [–]Threetakes [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Except that sex is a way to make babies and transmit diseases. Math and history are not. They are for training your mind. I would say nutrition and outdoor survival skills are more comparable, neither of which are typical high school courses. That's not to say I buy the "parents should teach them" argument though.

    [–]Threetakes [非表示スコア]  (11子コメント)

    Except the parents aren't doing it.

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (10子コメント)

    How do you know? Teen pregnancy rates in canada were on the decline for 30 years before they started this "progressive" bullshit.

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada [非表示スコア]  (6子コメント)

    Actually if you look at the coloration between the completeness of sex ed in the schools over the last 30 years and the drop in teen pregnancies they are in lock step.

    This just continues the trend of the fuller the sex education the fewer pregnancies.

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (5子コメント)

    Ok let's try this again, and I will go slower for you.

    The sex ed of the 70's started the decline of teen pregnancies.

    The sex ed of the 80's continued that trend.

    As did the sex ed of the 90's.

    The "progressive" sex ed of the 2000's and beyond has reversed that trend, with some provinces seeing a 40% increase in pregnancy rate.

    We're so quick to want to change things, to leave our mark, and we like to side with something that we agree with regardless of the facts. Progressives are the very definition of this. Everything that came before them is old and obsolete and voodoo based, and their "science" based noise is perfection. Forget that it has reversed the positive benefits of that "regressive" teachings, because PROGRESSIVE!!!

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

    Not according to:

    Advance Article Publication from The Canadian Journal of Human Sexuality, Volume 21, No. 3&4

    Release date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013

    Trends in Canadian National and Provincial/Territorial Teen Pregnancy Rates: 2001-2010

    By Alexander McKay, Ph.D.

    Research Coordinator, Sex Information and Education Council of Canada

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/why-teen-pregnancy-is-on-the-rise-again-in-canada-and-spiking-in-these-provinces/article7927983/

    While the national rate rose just slightly from 27.9 per 1,000 teens to 28.2, four provinces have seen much more staggering increases between 2006 and 2010: Teen pregnancy rates, for women aged 15 to 19, jumped by nearly 40 per cent in New Brunswick, nearly 36 per cent in Newfoundland, more than 17 per cent in Nova Scotia and 15 per cent in Manitoba.

    “The persistent long-term trend for teen pregnancy rates to decline in Canada appears to have come to an end. In some parts of the country, it clearly has started to increase,” said Alex McKay, research coordinator with the Sex Information and Education Council of Canada, which conducted the study, published Tuesday.

    Same study, same author.

    [–]arthurpalidenOutside Canada [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

    Please note that in New Brunswick and Newfoundland, the provinces that had the highest jumps in teen pregnancies, that their sex ed curriculum is the most outdated and religious centric in the country. So no wonder it is not working and failing miserably..

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    It doesn't really change that the rest of the country is following suit, just not quite as bad.

    [–]14io [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Checkmate fellah. Good night.

    [–]Threetakes [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

    I don't know. My post was meant to highlight the pointless argument of "if only the parents were doing something about it".

    [–]goinupwayup [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    It's a double edged sword, teach in school, and parents stop at home because it's not needed to be repeated. Teach at home but kids are stupid and do it anyways, and use that to say parents aren't doing their job.

    The way I look at it, the school is there to teach my kids how to be productive members of society, them being good people is up to me. They are there to take the teaching burden off of me so I can work. But this idea that you can make someone a good person in a few short restrictive hrs a day is rubbish.

    [–]Threetakes [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    That's a good point. But if there are kids who don't know what a condom is then their parents are clearly not teaching them. In that case it might be worth it to teach kids what a condom is in school. Although I have no clue about what has been and is taught as sex ed in school

    [–]kwirky88 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Man I wish I was taught how masturbate in grade 6!