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Help wanted in Sydney boutique Alice’s Diary ... but only if you’re Korean

  • by: Sarah Crawford
  • From: The Daily Telegraph
  • October 20, 2014 12:00AM
The sign in the window of Alice’s Diary / Picture: Chris McKeen
The sign in the window of Alice’s Diary / Picture: Chris McKeen Source: News Limited
NON-Koreans need not apply.
That is the message from one central Sydney retailer that may have breached the NSW Anti-Discrimination Act with its “Korean speakers only” employment policy.
Fashion and beauty store Alice’s Diary in the heart of Koreatown, on Liverpool Street, is advertising for ­“Korean staff” at their World Square shop.
Two non-Korean Daily Telegraph staff members who tried to test their employment policy by inquiring about the job were turned away, one in less than two minutes.
The shop could be breaching the NSW Anti-Discrimination Act, which makes it illegal for an employer to use race as a deciding factor in who should be offered a job.
Daily Telegraph reporter Ashlee Mullany visited the shop on Friday after they posted a “Korean Staff Wanted” sign in their window.
Ashlee Mullany.
Ashlee Mullany. Source: News Corp Australia
Rebecca Gredley.
Rebecca Gredley. Source: News Limited
When Mullany asked a shop assistant in the store about the job she was asked: “Is she Korean?”
The reporter explained she was applying for the job, not a friend.
The shop assistant told her they needed someone who spoke Korean but didn’t bother to see if Mullany could speak the language.
“We have lots of Asian customers and, some of them, their English is worse than mine,” she said.
When Daily Telegraph staff member Rebecca Gredley inquired about the job, she was also asked if she spoke Korean or Chinese.
Ashlee Mullany applies for a job at Alice’s Diary / Picture: Chris McKeen.
Ashlee Mullany applies for a job at Alice’s Diary / Picture: Chris McKeen. Source: DailyTelegraph
The shop assistant was surprised when Gredley said she spoke some Chinese and told her that she may be called for an interview which would be partially conducted in that language.
When she asked if they would employ someone with extensive retail skills but who spoke only English, Gredley was told “probably not”.
Australian Retailers Association executive director Russell Zimmerman said he understood the shop needed staff who spoke the majority of their customers’ language but could be going too far.
“To ask job applicants for a particular language would be reasonable but if they are saying you have to be Korean, that would be a huge issue,” he said.
Anti-Discrimination Board president Dr Stepan Kerkyasharian said any business employing people of a particular race would breach the Act, except if they had applied for and had been granted an ­exemption.
Race Discrimination Commissioner Dr Tim Soutphommasane said it was unlawful to refuse someone employment because of their race, colour, ethnicity or national origin.
“It is also unlawful to treat any person seeking employment less favourably because of their race. There are exceptions for “special measures”,” Dr Soutphommasane said.
“It is unacceptable for any business to advertise for a position for employees with race as a criterion.
“No member of the Australian community is immune from the law. Everyone is entitled to equal treatment, regardless of their race or ethnic background.”
The Australian Human Rights Commission received 168 complaints about racial discrimination in the workplace in 2012-13.
WHAT THE LAW SAYS:
The NSW Anti-Discrimination Act makes it illegal for an employer to use race as a deciding factor in determining who should be offered employment, and on what terms the job is offered. Exceptions to this rule exist in welfare jobs that are targeted to help a person of a particular race, and in acting, modelling or hospitality jobs where people of a certain race are required for “authenticity”.
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I think this is complete BS........... Employers should be allowed to hire anybody they want and need for their business. This is not about being "racist" but who wants to see an Indian working in a Korean Restaurant??? Who wants to see a Caucasian working in an Indian Restaurant??? Not only Restaurants - If it is a retail shop targeted at a certain race, you would want to have the same race work at the shop to make the customers feel more welcoming as their are people in Australia that struggle to speak English. Comments such as, if they cannot speak English they should leave the country, is far more racist than these acts of hiring certain race. What's the difference between advertising on their own community website for jobs, which Caucasians cannot view without knowing the language, and having them posted on the window of their shops? NOTHING... Discrimination / Racism occurs far more from the Caucasians but I don't see them being charged - think about all the poor Asians who was brought up in Australia, but because of their name, the resumes don't even get read properly (like myself). If regulatory bodies have time to investigate in these minor issues, they should invest more time into issues that actually matter.
Annette
Annette 5ptsFeatured
I don't see a problem with it at all. Do they expect the person to employ someone that cannot communicate effectively with their customers? Do they expect them to get customers complaints and lose business??
Ridiculous! They know what is best for their business so let them get on with it. Hard enough to run a business these days without everyone sticking their noses in.
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Frank
Frank 5ptsFeatured
This is a business where the employee must speak korean ,simple as that ,
And is is NOT "only if you’re Korean"" Stupid misleading headline .
Dirty
Dirty 5ptsFeatured
Seems sensible to me. More jobs need to stipulate for English speakers only as well. Discrimination is the only way to get the best person for the job.
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Tom
Tom 5ptsFeatured
There are many jobs where the ability to speak a particular language are necessary/important. In this case, given that many of the shop's customers speak Korean, how can someone who can't speak Korean fluently do the job well. It's a customer service job and you therefore have to be able to communicate with customers in a language they prefer to speak. Sure, if an employer advertises that they want Korean or Chinese or Italian or Malaysian (or whatever) they are breaching the law. However, I doubt that the employer in this case mean fully understood that. A friend of mine who is originally from New Zealand speaks fluent Korean - she was an interpreter and tour guide for Korean tourists travelling in Australia for several years. I suspect that if she turned up for an interview, introduced herself in Korean and engaged the owner in a conversation in Korean she would get a fair hearing.
hey
hey 5ptsFeatured
@Tom I speak,read and write 2 major Asian languages- Korean being one of them ( I have even lived there) and trust me, I have tried getting a job at similar places and the result has always been the same- they only hire their own kind.
Ben
Ben 5ptsFeatured
it doesnt offend me . if the job requires a Korean or someone that speaks it …. go for it. As long as when i want to employ someone who requires a special skill i dont get any bleeding hearts complaining that i am discriminating.
its just common sense.
Jason
Jason 5ptsFeatured
@Ben  agreed. just worded incorrectly. "Korean Speaking staff wanted" should've been suffice. yet When English is their 2nd language, then fair enough.
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Jeff
Jeff 5ptsFeatured
Talk about overreacting, stop picking on the shop. Why didn't you go in to the shop and explain to them that they should change the sign to say, Korean speaking people wanted rather than attacking them when they most likley had no idea they were doing anything wrong. 
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Alice
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Hi, I am the owner of Alice’s Diary.
I would like to take the opportunity to the accusations made in this article.
First and foremost, I would like to state that my English is quite poor, and whilst I make every effort to improve my language skills, English is my third language, after Chinese and Korean. Whilst I endeavor to improve my English, it is still not easy for me.
The sign stating “Korean staff wanted” was poorly worded and it was not my intent to imply that only Koreans seeking employment would be considered. Due to the nature of my business and the customers I cater towards, being able to speak Korean is extremely beneficial. At this point in time, the members of my staff are lacking in this aspect which is why I am seeking Korean speaking employees.
I understand that despite Australia being a multicultural society, English is the primary language and a certain fluency in the language is something I look for when interviewing potential employees.  I would like to reiterate that my sign was a result of my poor English leading to misinterpretation.
Thank you for your understanding.
(This response was edited by a fluent English speaker prior to posting, but retains the original context of the initial draft written by the owner of Alice’s Diary)
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Peter
Peter 5ptsFeatured
What if the reporter was offered the job, would she have taken the job or just wasted the shops time.
Rob
Rob 5ptsFeatured
Asians prefer to employ their own. A local well-known fast food franchise was owned by an Aussie and employed a diverse mix of people that represented multicultural Sydney. It was then sold to an Indian, and after a few months every single worker is now conveniently of Indian heritage. Most businesses are smart enough not to advertise for one particular culture though, instead they can tell from one's CV where they're originally from, and only call them in for an interview. Welcome to multicultural Australia.
Graeme
Graeme 5ptsFeatured
@Rob  The problem was the people of Australia at the time it was brought in had no choice in the matter and look at the mess we have now. Multiculturism has been a disaster in my mind. 
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hey
hey 5ptsFeatured
This is pretty common in Sydney. Next time they will just write a sign in Korean- problem solved.
Tom
Tom 5ptsFeatured
@hey Good idea. However, I think the thought police would say that it's illegal to not post a sign in English. You can post in another language as well, but I bet there's some fine print somewhere that says that all job ads must be English as well.
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Graeme
Graeme 5ptsFeatured
I am disgusted with the Telegraph and their slant on this story as a 68 year old Australian of First Fleeters descent I actually find this story a bit off. This is the same as advertising for someone and requesting that they speak English,no different. Of course they would need someone who speaks the language (most of their customers are Korean) and at least they are being up front about it. We have too many people doing jobs involving customers who cannot speak our (English ) language and indeed it used to be a stipulation that you did learn English (my Chinese wife was given 500 hours at school) and it still should be like that today.
ROCHELLE
ROCHELLE 5ptsFeatured
@Graeme  I don't think you get that they didn't ask for some one who "speaks" Korean they asked for someone who "is" Korean. There is a big difference, a Caucasian person can speak Korean but can't be Korean. Maybe if they are coming to an English speaking country they should try speaking English, we would have to learn their lingo if we go there, why should it be different here. Don't you think we are already being very tolerant?
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RM
RM 5ptsFeatured
I have seen adverts for are for indigenous applicants, why then can't there be a job advert for Koreans/other applicants
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Allan
Allan 5ptsFeatured
I didn't think they are discriminating if where the number of persons employed by the employer,
disregarding any persons employed within the employer’s private household, does not exceed 5.

Steven
Steven 5ptsFeatured
I'd be interested to see how many white Aussies - there, I said, noone else will here - would have wanted to work at that place anyway; interested to see if anyone of a caucasian background would have bothered to walk in and ask them for a job, had the journo not gone in as a sting.
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Sandy-Lee
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The only real test of their true intention would have been to have a caucasion applicant who actually spoke Korean apply for the job. If they got turned down, then it IS discrimination.
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Tom
Tom 5ptsFeatured
@Sandy-Lee Not necessarily. Just because someone speaks Korean, doesn't mean they can do the job. It's not the only criterion. 
Sandy-Lee
Sandy-Lee 5ptsFeatured
@Tom @Sandy-Lee Missing the point. My intention was, if you have two identically qualified applicants who both have a high level of linguistic ability, as required for the job, stating that they will employ the Korean over the caucasion based on their nationality, and not their ABILITY, is definitely racist.
lorraine
lorraine 5ptsFeatured
Australians are being discriminated against every single day, we have no rights and the government is to blame. The government no longer protect there own people, It will be a lot worse in the next few years.
Brett
Brett 5ptsFeatured
@lorraine What rights are being refused here? They're looking for a korean speaking employee. If you don't speak Korean, you won't be of any use to them. If I apply for a engineering job with no qualifications and get refused, should I kick up a stink?
Mike
Mike 5ptsFeatured
Where are all the grubby lefties now that were ranting  when the coffee shop would not give a job to a native from some where other than Australia ..O! O! Sorry I forgot  Discrimination is only designed  to work against Australians and mainly against Anglo Celtic ones at that.
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David
David 5ptsFeatured
This kinda stuff is happening all over Sydney....Go into 7 eleven and I bet there is an Indian behind the counter.The truth is white Australians are being discriminated against constantly in this country but nothing is said.Its done deliberately.
Lisa
Lisa 5ptsFeatured
@David Because you want to work the night shift at 7-11 David???  Yeah, didn't think so.
Ali
Ali 5ptsFeatured
@David.. Im sure you wont do overnight shifts at 7-11 for a slave wage of about 13-15 per hour. Indians will.
Ely
Ely 5ptsFeatured
@David this is not  about just Australian my dear, this is in regards of hiring someone from a specific race to work there , it affects everyone, so don't turn this into us against them, this not happen to anyone, period.
jim
jim 5ptsFeatured
@David ALso Asian workers often work for less money and don't complain about poor conditions or ever take a sickie
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Ian
Ian 5ptsFeatured
@David Based on conversations I have had with staff at various 7-11s, the problem seems to be below award wages. That is, immigrants more often agree to work for them & in many cases, do not even realise that awards exist.  If the government did its job & enforced minimum wages, I believe we would see a wider variety of ethnic extractions behind the counter.
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Caroline
Caroline 5ptsFeatured
It makes sense if their clients speak korean it would be better for their business. More appropriate wording on the sign is preferable. They have probably saved all the english speaking applicants some time. They would never get the job anyway. Generally with discrimination you can have your own criteria and you just dont shortlist the ones that dont meet your criteria.seen it happen before.
But lets face it - were in Australia. Lets at least make an effort and learn the Australian language totally disrespectful and particularly when its a language you dont understand spoken in front of you.
Carissa
Carissa 5ptsFeatured
You're conveniently forgetting that the only people who speak Korean are Koreans - it's not an international language like English- so the effect of such a policy is racially excluding non- Koreans.
Ian
Ian 5ptsFeatured
@Carissa Why would you go & say something silly like that? I have a friend who speaks korean fluently & makes a living teaching english to koreans. He is white & was born in New Zealand. Didn't you say earlier that you spoke a chinese language? By your logic, it is impossible that you could not be chinese right?
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Dan
Dan 5ptsFeatured
@Caroline Yes, it's a badly written sign. Should have said 'Korean Speaking Staff Wanted'.  Unfortunately, now some people have made it into a race issue!
jim
jim 5ptsFeatured
Maybe they can give a job to that fat boy that rules North Korea
Two
Two 5ptsFeatured
Front page news, I think they are trying to promote DailyTelegraph staff are not Korean.
ian
ian 5ptsFeatured
Are Koreans the only "race" who are able to converse in that language ?  I think not.  Therefore, how can the requirement to speak any language be "racist".  If they said "Koreans only" it would be another matter.  Typical beat up of a story based on the scourge or our era (aka political correctness)
Philip
Philip 5ptsFeatured
@ian So the sign on the door advertising for staff stating 'Korean Staff wanted' DOESN'T specify a race? I think you are to P.C. if you refuse to recognize what is in front of you!
Ely
Ely 5ptsFeatured
@ian well can't you read the sign. it does says Koreans wanted..... not korean language....
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