(cache) WittmeisterがControl freaksについて記入したコメント

If you read the comment I was replying to you would see that the quote that you took is satire. because it is almost word for word a copy of a comment that I think k sounded ridiculous, I just spun it in the opposite direction.

My sense of humor aside, I stand by what I said in those two lines. In fact I think you are the only one who is highlighting the idea that pregnancy SHOULDN'T be a consequence of sex. In fact I am arguing the exact opposite. Because I know that the pleasures of sex often result in unwanted pregnancy I am actually very worried of what is going to happen after. Of course they are not forcing me to have children, exactly like they are not forcing me to have sex. In fact I enjoy sex which is why I choose to have it. And in order to ensure that I can keep enjoying it with a lessened risk of children, I am very concerned about birth control availability.

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You do realize that my last two sentences were just mocking you, and they are almost word for word what you said?

And you are missing the part where birth control is part of a medical procedure. While given its name, its primary function is to prevent pregnancy that is not its sole function. For example polycystic ovary syndrome, in which enlarged ovaries and infrequent menstrual periods can cause series long term complications. A MEDICAL PROCEDURE that could help lower those risks is birth control. You are so stuck on the fact that you believe that birth control can only be used for one thing that you don't realize the importance that is can have on many peoples lives for other reasons.

Regardless of what someone chooses to use birth control for, you have no right yo judge them for the financial strain you think it is going to cost you. You do realize that you are currently paying for people to get government assistance in the form of food stamps and the like? So you don't mind paying more so people can get food for the children, when they could in fact have a better chance of being able to afford for their families if they chose when or if hey actually wanted kids?

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Yes, I'm absolutely aware that I made that comparison because I made that explicit comparison. Your comment of "this thread is full of the stupid, feminist logic at its best" tells me our argument will go nowhere, so I'll stop after one question. If there was a birth control pill for men - would it be covered by medical plans? This situation is setting the precedent.

I also want to clear something up from another one of your comments - this isn't about having taxpayers pay for the birth control pill. This is about employer-provided medical coverage. Some employers are denying coverage of the birth control pill because they don't believe in contraception (i.e. Hobby Lobby). This law will make it legal for them to discriminate.

For those on medicaid - wouldn't it be cheaper for the taxpayers to pay for reliable birth control rather than potentially pay for the medical coverage of having a child? Not to mention the coverage of that child?

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....In which can be used and prescribed from a medical doctor...no one has argued that. In fact the OP's point reflected the fact that a law proposed should confirm its used for these symptoms, the problem is, however, she feels that it should be provided even for birth control itself, by taxpayers. OP is ignorant of the fact, or at least hiding from it, that us OTHER PEOPLE would be paying for her birth control. She's claimed to me as a response "I'm demanding that the money I pay through health insurance and taxes be represented in my medical coverage." which is entirely ignorant of the fact that her subsidized cost means OTHER PEOPLE are paying. She's demanding people help pay for birth control while simultaneously saying she hates that these very people want a say in what they're paying for. You can tell by this thread ignorance of this is not lacking by any means.

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So do you support subsidized maternity leave? Sounds like you really want babies to be born. Or how about increased coverage for the costs of birth? That's a medical procedure, no?

If not, what about welfare and food stamps to help support these children that you didn't want to help pay to prevent? Let's not forget schools and eventually social security.

Who cares if some women use birth control? Don't we want more responsible parenting in this country? Not everybody agrees with everything that everybody does. That's society, dude. Doesn't mean we have to make people fight tooth and nail. I'm sure there are benefits you get that other people don't want to pay for. For example, I'm pretty sure I'm never going to use any sidewalks that you walked on this week, or the traffic lights in your neighbourhood. It all evens out in the end.

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