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Minimum Wage Backfire: McDonald’s moves to automate orders to reduce worker costs. (google.com)

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[–]The__Imp 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (8子コメント)

To be fair, this was all but inevitable, barring some Buterlian style jihad. Maybe the pressure and bad press made the decision come somewhat sooner, but probably only by a matter of months.

[–]Malishious 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Upvote for the Buterlian Jihad reference! Great book.

[–]CustosClavium 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seconded!

...Salusa Secunded...heh...

[–]wonderful_wonton[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're right. But the pressure and bad press means a lot in businesses where marketing and public image are so key.

I'm of the mind that we should be finding ways to persuade businesses to choose people over automation. Like a sort of marketing expense, giving a positive public image to employers who choose human presence and preserve jobs, where making a choice is economically feasible.

But that kind of positive culture is not possible when businesses are framed in the popular media as greedy exploiters who steal from employees in order to turn a profit. If employers are implicitly evil for profiting from the work of their workers, the fewer workers you employ, oddly, means the less inhuman your business appears. Easier to reduce the number of human faces and plow money into beautiful advertising campaigns.

[–]snoopymondeo 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It'd be tough to persuade businesses to keep human workers. Every advancement in technology will eventually eliminate menial repetitive tasks. The cotton gin, water pump, and assemble line robots all eliminated jobs held by low wage workers. The minimum wage increase just sped up the process. If I was a farmer I would choose a combine over hiring 50 employees to cut wheat by hand even if I paid them hardly anything. We need to think forward a little better. McDonald's eliminated human cashiers with machines. Someone has to build, maintain, and program those machines. For every decline of a job type another rises in it's place.

[–]wonderful_wonton[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know, but there is a benefit to slowing the rate of job dislocations. The economy isn't efficient when rapid technological changes creates constant dislocations of workers. There has to be a wholesome cycle of workforce trends for people to adapt.

[–]aveygt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

while, yes another does rise in its place, there are less of those jobs. and eventually those jobs will even be automated.

relevant

[–]Terron1965 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true, this is how people are able to consume more stuff. We will just consume more as the relative cost of production drops. It has been happening for generations. It was not very long ago that 90% of jobs were in agriculture and clothing. Those jobs are all gone and world population doubled. The world did not end.

The only true driver of improvements to the standard of living is productivity.

[–]evanb_ [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of the Luddites. We all know how successful they were.

[–]DJDevineSoapbox Conservative 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Uhhh...where's the article? Its just a broken google link

[–]FlareCorran 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I refreshed it, the article went through.

This link may work better:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/minimum-wage-backfire-1413934569

[–]wonderful_wonton[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks, it works for me but I have a WSJ subscription (which is only $15/semester for students!).

I tried to link from google so others would get it but I guess it didn't work.

[–]gregdumb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It worked for me! :)

[–]Nudity_Is_Freedom 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Awesome! I've been wondering when we would start automating fast food production. Heard about some Japanese restaurants that do similar.

[–]wonderful_wonton[S] [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

We have this now in the US, for automating orders. Where we go fly fishing out in the middle of nowhere, there are these big combined gas station/convenience stores/fast food places named "Sheetz."

You walk up to an ordering station with some touch screens, enter your order and pay for it. A person at the food production station behind the counter makes the food and gives it to you.

Here's what they look like (actual Sheetz store setup).

[–]JonZ82 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

About fucking time.. maybe now my burger will be edible.

[–]CupformyCosta 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally didn't see this one coming!

Shocker

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I wonder if machines can make the hamburgers look like the ones in the pictures ?

Ever notice how humans cannot make em look like the ones they advertise ?

Ive always felt it was false advertising, you order a Ferrari GTO and ya gets a Yugo GV instead.

[–]wonderful_wonton[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dream of the menu picture Big Mac, finally made possible by 21st century technology and minimum wage activists!

[–]pumpyourstillskin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

www.momentummachines.com claims they can.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There ya go !

Dial-a-burger, perfect burgers made to your taste ever time !

Thats what we want and we want it now !

Beef +sausage+bacon, bacon, bacon,bacon,bacon,bacon,bacon.

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ive had burgers that looked better than the picture, if you ask them to remake it they have to or they'd be false advertising there's a video on YouTube about it

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeeeh !

Ive always been apprehensive about any modifications that might be added upon such requests.

The first time through it was just another burger, the second time through its getting special attention.

[–]BishopWash [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

You could ask them to make it like the pictures. This guy did and got some good results.

[–]unibuckeye 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

well, there wont be as many minimum wage workers - liberals ftw

[–]TeaPartyOverlordSupporter 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

... and more demand for government handouts. Just what the left wants.

[–]gregdumb 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey, I just had a brilliant idea! Why don't we put EVERYBODY on welfare? That way nobody will have to work!

/s

[–]ajtexasranger [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

But then who would you tax?

[–]gregdumb [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

The huge evil corporations that hoard piles of cash and refuse to pay their hard working, honest employees!

This plan is literally foolproof, I should run for office. /s

[–]MrBobSugar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love it. Those machines also creates a whole new skilled labor industry.

[–]Denog [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Kind of like extracting oil from the tarsands. Years ago, it would have been way too costly to get, but increased gas prices, increased world demand, and advanced technology have made it viable.

[–]pugsillyConservative 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is great news. The liberals have finally got us to the point where the uneducated and unskilled will all soon be replaced by a robot. And who wouldn't prefer to deal with a machine rather than someone "educated" in the public school system.

Maybe we can come up with a technology that morphs the no personal responsibility crowd into some kind of biological/machine beings.

They are too dumb to exist in society, but serve a purpose as machines to serve society.

They could have an on/off switch and just be stored in a closet of a business when not working.

[–]w8foritParolee 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree and I also just love it when some senior citizens say "I've paid my share in taxes. I'm not going to support the education system anymore". (they did this in a town in Oregon). Okay. So, you don't want 'educated' employees to take care of you in a nursing home when you get old? Ok. You'll reap what you sow. Good luck with that.

[–]coherent_thought 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Duh. I would rather enter my own order than deal with some idiot who can't do basic arithmetic anyway.

[–]johnyann [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

This is gonna happen every where. Doctors. Engineers. Lawyers. Pretty much everything is going to be replaced by automation.

Get used to it.

[–]Goblicon -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Duh. It's all a scheme to get fewer people working.