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Photo of a boy using binoculars for bird-watching in Oregon.

A boy looks for birds from a lookout tower in Oregon, with Mount Hood in the distance.

Photograph by Kevin Schafer, Corbis

Martha Hamilton

for National Geographic

Published September 23, 2014

If you're a black bird-watcher, "be prepared to be confused with the other black birder." That's what J. Drew Lanham, a wildlife ecology professor at Clemson University in South Carolina, wrote last year in his list of nine race-related "rules."

"Yes, there are only two of you at the bird festival," he wrote in the pages of Orion magazine. "Yes, you're wearing a name tag and are six inches taller than he is. Yes, you will be called by his name at least half a dozen times by supposedly observant people who can distinguish gull molts in a blizzard."

Lanham's sarcasm is warranted. Minorities have always seemed to be underrepresented in U.S. environmental groups. Now there's new data to support that old anecdotal observation.

According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, in 2011, 93 percent of American birders were white, 5 percent were Hispanic (which includes both blacks and whites), 4 percent were black, 1 percent were Asian American, and 2 percent were "other."

Bird-watchers, of course, aren't the only environmentalists of a feather who flock together, or whose passion for protecting the environment could benefit from building more minority support.

Another study—released in August by the Green 2.0 Working Group, with support from the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation, the Argus Foundation, the Sierra Club, and Earth Justice—looked at 191 conservation and preservation organizations, 74 government environmental agencies, and 28 environmental grant-making organizations in the U.S., totaling 3.2 million people.

The study found that diversity has increased when it comes to gender—women now occupy more than half the leadership positions in the organizations studied—but ethnic minorities still occupy less than 12 percent of leadership positions. The working group concluded that it would take broader support—meaning greater diversity—for the environmental movement to continue its momentum.

But at a time when birds are facing unprecedented challenges to their existence from climate change and increased urbanization, developing more diversity among birders will broaden support for measures needed to protect birds—plus the nesting grounds, woodlands, meadows, wetlands, and other habitats in which they thrive, and in which birders delight—while also helping to create more citizen scientists, which would be a boon for everyone.

Feather Friends

In the past three years, a group of birders has pulled together to try to bring more minorities into their community, staging a series of conferences called Focus on Diversity: Changing the Face of American Birding.

The meetings have covered a range of reasons why minorities may find it hard to embrace birding, including concerns about how onlookers might react to seeing a black or Hispanic man with binoculars wandering the woods—or a suburban neighborhood—at dusk, dawn, or night. ("Nocturnal birding is a no-no" is Lanham's Rule 4.)

Conference speakers have also cited lingering fears about racism in the U.S.—like whether it's safe to go to areas where the Ku Klux Klan had been strong, or where militias still thrive—and, for some who grew up in cities or suburbs, a fear of the unfamiliar woods, full of critters.

Then there's the question of how welcoming and inclusive bird-watching groups currently are. Writer, editor, and former American Birding Association board member Paul Baicich, whose father is named Giuseppe and whose family background is Italian, says lack of inclusiveness is nothing new.

"About 120 years ago, birding organizations were anti-immigrant," he says. Today, "There is an ingrown quality to lots of the birding communities that they may not be aware of," which may appear to newcomers as exclusivity. Birders should realize there is no such thing as an "overdeveloped welcome mat," and take every opportunity to invite outsiders in.

The Focus on Diversity meetings began in November 2010 at the urging of Dave Magpiong, a New Jersey middle school teacher. That's when a heterogeneous group of seven birders gathered informally at a bird festival in southern Texas—where they bonded in a hotel room over pizza and beer—to express their diversity concerns.

Magpiong had previously started an organization called the Fledging Birders Institute, with the goal of nurturing an interest in birding and conservation among youth.

Back then he was a special-education teacher who became inspired after seeing positive reactions from students who followed him outside to watch birds. After the experience prompted an extremely quiet student to speak up more often, describing birds, the girl's mother thanked Magpiong for helping her daughter find her voice.

"A lot of people have been talking about [the need for more diversity] as a key issue," says Magpiong, who describes his own ethnicity as a mix of Filipino, Italian, Hungarian Jew, "and mutt." But efforts to increase the number of minorities, he says, are "still not [leading directly to] organizational change."

Taking Others Under Their Wings

Other birding organizations have also recognized the lack of diversity, and have begun reaching out to minorities.

Marissa Ortega-Welch, coordinator of eco-education for the Golden Gate Audubon Society in California, says her organization has a grant to increase environmental consciousness in schools with a high percentage of students from low-income families. The group's efforts include visits to local parks and bird-watching walks led by volunteers who provide binoculars, field scopes, and bird guides.

RELATED VIDEO: In November, 2010, National Audubon Society birding volunteers helped determine the effects of the Gulf oil spill on birds.

"We take them to wetlands, creeks, and beach habitats," says Ortega-Welch, whose ethnicity is part Mexican. "Taking them to the shoreline is the best," because kids can run around and shout and still spot big birds like the great egret and the black-necked stilt.

But more such efforts are needed, says Baicich—especially to attract adults. Connecting children and teens to birds is "wonderful," he says, "but relatively nonproductive," because other interests invariably take over when they enter their late teens, 20s, or 30s.

Baicich says the key is to recruit mentors who can bring in minority adults—for instance, a minister who may be able to share her own love of birds with the congregation.

Birder Brains

Jody Enck, a social scientist with the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, has been studying how people come to think of themselves as birders. He's also looking at how nonprofits, including the Cornell lab, may be more attractive to some types of birders than others.

One group that gets a lot of attention—which Enck has nicknamed "Have Equipment, Will Travel"—wants "to explore birds close up but also are willing to travel. They'll go to the next county, the next state. They'll go all around the world. They like to identify every bird they see."

And, he added, "They spend a lot of money. They love the sense of accomplishment when they identify a new bird. They get birding information from lots of sources—birding friends, professional tour guides, even manufacturers of birding equipment."

At the other end of the spectrum, he says, are self-reliant birders.

"That includes people who feel like they are not well understood, in part because of the way they are talked to," says Enck. "They like to watch birds, even if they don't know what [species] they are. They love being connected with nature. They want to learn about birds, but on their own terms. They don't want to be viewed as needing to be educated, 'fixed,' or deficient in skills or knowledge about birds."

Members of the "Have Equipment, Will Travel" group tend to think about joining nonprofits as a transactional relationship: They're willing to exchange membership fees or donations for something of equal value, like information, a service, or a product.

Members of the self-reliant group, on the other hand, think about joining nonprofits as more of an interpersonal relationship: They're more likely to join if they feel a sense of belonging. And they don't want to feel like they're being marketed to.

The Long Flight Ahead

When Anita Guris joined the Delaware Valley Ornithological Club in 1988, she was one of only two black members. But she found the club welcoming, and eventually became the membership chair. In that job, she brought in four new black members and two new members of Japanese descent.

Still, she says of the effort to increase diversity, "It's a struggle."

After all, she's had her own experience with Lanham's first rule for black birders. At a major event last fall—a birding weekend in Cape May, New Jersey—she and her husband, who is white, were one of two interracial couples.

"There was an interracial couple from New York," says Guris, "and we were confused with them."

At the time, she adds, "I was looking for my 400th bird, and I told a lot of people about it. Then someone asked the other black woman if she had found it. She said she wanted to say: 'I'm the other one.'"

As Guris says, "There are not that many of us, and birding is all about identification. You'd think if they could identify thousands of birds, they could recognize us. There were only two black birders [that weekend in Cape May], and we didn't even look alike. They were only seeing the similarities."

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Freedom Firstforever
Freedom Firstforever

I like this part:

"The study found that diversity has increased when it comes to gender—women now occupy more than half the leadership positions in the organizations studied"


It's more diverse because more than half are female? What's the optimal diversity percentage? 75% female? 100% female?


Also, it's absurd for this article to state that it's "unproductive" to teach young people about birding. My 14 year old son can see and identify more birds than I will ever be able to do. He may pursue other interests over the next few years but was it a waste of time to help him pursue an interest in birding? Of course not! With that kind of reasoning, why should we teach young people Shakespeare or Algebra or how to play soccer?

John LeDoux
John LeDoux

NGO also gives you Climate Change is real, such idiots.

kris morgan
kris morgan

How would making birding more "diverse" be in anyone's "best interests"? how so? By exposing more old Caucasians to black people?? Ohh goodie- because I have never seen a black person before! So glad this timely, much needed, and communist thought-speak has reared itself today on the internet.

kris morgan
kris morgan

People of color not involved in birding? SHOCKED! I am shocked. Maybe it's because THEY AREN'T INTERESTED IN THE HOBBY.

Sanity LivesHere
Sanity LivesHere

How did such lunacy make it past the editor?  If anyone needed more proof that National Geographic has decided facts and science be da~ned, let's just embrace rabid Communism, this is it.

Newsflash, Crazies.  People "flock" to what interests them, not to what YOU think should interest them.  smdh

Chuck Colmes
Chuck Colmes

It's stunning how articles like this dredge up race baiting commentary from elitist guilt ridden whites who unknowingly further racism by studying it so.

Linda Mullaney
Linda Mullaney

As a female birdwatcher, I've often looked around while in a group of other birders to find that I'm the only woman there. I'm not sure how that compares to being the only non-white birder present in a group, but no one's ever made an issue of it and neither do I. But it does feel weird when I first notice it.

In my experience, many birders tend to be VERY focused and slightly ditzy. It does not surprise me in the slightest that they can remember hundreds of bird names but not remember human names, even the names of the one or two people who are not gray haired old white men. I have difficulty recalling names myself, even shortly after being introduced to someone, but I think that's an attention problem.

I'm sure there are racist birdwatchers out there, just because there's no reason why birdwatching should be immune from racism, but I can honestly say that I've never been in the company of birders who made racist comments. I really think that most of them are just too obsessed with the birds to pay much attention to the other people around them.

Eduardo Garcia
Eduardo Garcia

This article illustrates a mental illness, the best historical parallel I can think of is Communism.  Before the Bolshevik revolution in the Soviet Union, being a small businessman or shopkeeper in Russia was normal.  There was nothing "wrong" with it.  Suddenly, after the Bolshevik revolution, anyone who was a "capitalist" was considered a criminal.   Replace the word "capitalist" with "racist".  This is what our society has become.  Today in America, all white people are slandered with the label "racist".  If white people gather together to do something they enjoy, in their own private life, it is considered "bad" or there's something "wrong" with if there aren't enough minorities.   Whites are constantly monitored, and judged and watched by these crazy left wing Marxists.  So what happened was, one of these crazy cultural Marxist types went to a bird watchers meeting, looked around and realized everybody there was white.  They flipped out and said to themselves, "Oh my gosh!  Everybody here is white".  As if there was something "wrong" and it "needed" to be "fixed".  

Lisa McCue
Lisa McCue

What a ridiculous article. If black people (or other "colored" people) want to watch birds, what's stopping them? Is there some obscure branch of the KKK that keeps tabs on who's buying tiny binoculars and bird identification books? Do birds not fly in urban areas? Do they only allow themselves to be watched by whites? Has there been a bird outcry for black bird watchers? As for minorities becoming ornithologists, what's stopping them? Is there some source that shows wholesale discrimination against any black Americans majoring in ornithology in college? My God, National Geographic, you've embarrassed yourself with this article. What a bunch of tripe.

P. Gauge
P. Gauge

"But were there any handicapped gay Micronesian birdwatchers… and if so why not?


This slice of Social Justice Warrior crazy is brought to you by the National Geographic, which once upon a time used to discuss animals and rivers… but now pushes the same Tumblr “Everything is Racist” narrative as any media publication the left controls.


(Now would be a good time to cancel your subscription)


There are infinite possibilities here.


Are there not enough black people who build ships in bottles? There must be something racist about it. It couldn’t possibly be that black people aren’t as interested in building ships in bottles." -- Daniel Greenfield

P. Gauge
P. Gauge

National Geographic headline: "More diversity among bird-watchers is in everyone's best interest."

Translation: "This is a non-problem that no one cares about."

Kiara Ashanti
Kiara Ashanti

when you are talking about an activity that most white people look at another white person with a scant eye is there any surprise there are not many blacks are interested? I mean really...

Kris Chringle
Kris Chringle

Shut up!  Who would write an article like this in National Geographic? Please FIRE this woman.

David Owens
David Owens

But at a time when birds are facing unprecedented challenges to their existence from climate change and increased urbanization, developing more diversity among birders will broaden support for measures needed to protect birds ... 


WHAT??!? Is there even the slightest scrap of factual, objective evidence to support this bizarre claim?

Mitch Graves
Mitch Graves

WOW!   I don't know where to start!  I know it's not April Fools Day.
 Did "The Onion' buy NG?  
Was it bring your idiot child to work day and one of them edited their parents article?
I know from watching  NGTV are that NG has left it's once purely scientific  place,  but are they going all the way down to Mad Magazine?
Do pseudo-intellectuals run the place now?
Someone...no, everyone there, should be ashamed.


mike barker
mike barker

If the moonbat articles on global warm --- er, climate change --- didn't convince you that National Geographic is solidly aligned with the moonbat Progressive left, then this moonbat piece of racist race-baiting should.


Time to chuck National Geographic in the trash, rejecting it along with its race card.



Adam Smith
Adam Smith

Thanks for an enlightening article.  Why does the government support such racism with parks, lands and a whole Department of the Interior?  It's like the government having a Department of Slavery or something.  


Write your representatives in Congress.  Tell them you don't support racism.  Tell them to sell all government land that harbors such racists--parks, forests, deserts, the whole enchilada! 


Next time you vote, look for hidden support from racist environmental societies like Audubon, Sierra Club and all the rest.

K W
K W

Honestly...what the hell difference does it make? 

It's only an issue when we raise it to be one - which is what's happening here. Why can't we accept that some races may be more interested in certain subjects than others? Why do we need to point it out and make it an issue? The more talk about races and nationality and all this crap only feeds the fire of segregation.  If everyone wants racism and hate towards others to stop - then shut the hell up about it and live your own life however you want.

P. Gauge
P. Gauge

What hypocrisy!
We complain about being overtly and covertly being observed by NSA, FBI, Google,... while we do the very same to birds! What a fowl practice!
We should be complaining about the insults we pile on one another, like: tall people looking down on shorter people, short people looking disdainfully at the shortest people, dogs trying to get a leg up on fire hydrants -- a pee-nal violation, Republicans speaking the truth about Democrats, pediatric podiatrists performing only small feets of medical science [this while adults, if treated, could more easily foot the bill],...

Climate change was mentioned in some pointless way in the article referenced -- where's the effort to minimize climate change by having the UN ban summer, autumn, and winter?!
These are all worthy efforts for the public parasites to keep themselves busy with. -- Stug

Danusha Goska
Danusha Goska

I am a woman. I am a first generation American. I am very low income. I live in a majority minority city, Paterson, NJ. 


I find this article so offensive, wrongheaded, and false, that I ask National Geographic to apologize, and until NG does so, I will boycott your magazine, one I've subscribed to for years. 


This article is racist. It makes sweeping, ugly, and inaccurate generalizations based on noxious stereotypes. J Drew Lanham is not to be believed and should be ashamed. 

As a very low income, first generation American, child of two parents who did manual labor, in a blue collar town, I discovered my own love of nature and pursued it myself. I bought my own field guides and binoculars. I did not wait for a rich white person whose last name ended in a consonant to send me an engraved invitation to start birdwatching. 


In this I am very like one of my own personal heroes, Roger Tory Peterson, who was a poor child of immigrants who had to go to work in a factory at an early age after his father died. I am like Margaret Morse Nice, who faced sexism and overcame it to become a great ornithologist. 


This nasty little article alleges that African Americans would be risking their lives if they went into the woods with binoculars because white Americans are so deadly and hateful. 

I happen to live in a city, Paterson NJ, where three people have been murdered in the past week, one outside my door. They were not murdered by these putative rich, white, evil birdwatchers. Most violent crime in this country is not committed by rich, white, evil birdwatchers. 


I am a woman and every time I go into the woods alone I know I am taking a risk. I take precautions. I do this because I love nature so much that nothing could stop me from birdwatching. I've birdwatched in the US, Africa, and Asia. I have been accosted by scary men. They were never rich, white, evil, birdwatchers. I have had to think quickly, act fast, and rely on gear like mace to escape unscathed. 

Birdwatchers often cherish time alone in nature. When strangers of any color approach me in a wooded area, to be perfectly frank, I often ignore them or produce a monosyllabic response. I don't do this because I am a racist. I do this because I want to be alone with nature and I didn't go into the woods to have long conversations with other people. 


In spite of my own misanthropy, I have often exhorted my fellow birdwatchers to be more welcoming to newcomers to our passion. We often fail to be as welcoming as we could, for the same reason that I as an individual fail to be welcoming. Our focus is on solitude in the wilderness with wild animals. Do we sometimes lack social skills? Do bears sit in the woods? Please. 

National Geographic you owe birders and birding an apology. 

J Drew Lanham, shame on you for using your personal desire to play victim to smear a beautiful activity and a great bunch of people. Planet stewardship needs all the help it can get, and you set us back with your whine. 


Everyone, buy binoculars, buy a field guide, get out into the field and get into a group of birders, even if only through email or facebook. It does not matter what your gender, age, size, or color is, even if you try to make it matter when it does not. 


Celebrate creation. Celebrate birds and birding. And Birders. 

P. Gauge
P. Gauge

"The best part is the two black guys claiming none of the (liberal, one assumes) white birders can tell 'em apart."

P. Gauge
P. Gauge

Whatever happened to, "Birds of a feather flock together"? 

Jim Dick
Jim Dick

Would NG want to write an article about the NBA?  Not many people of non-color there. Would you please write that article?  My sense is that that group is the most racist group of rich people in the country.  


I personally have never seen a rule against any set, sub-set, or special-set of people being excluded from birding.  Could you document the bylaws of birding that prohibit special-people-of color from birding? Would you prescribe quotas for non-color folks buying birding books?  Please prohibit then, David Sibley from writing any more books until he has an edition in ebonics or turns into a person-of-color. That would help. Would you keep persons-of-non-color from birding until your quota was met?  What then is your quota?  Would you now, not accept donations or subscriptions from non-special-uncolored people?  Please let them know now.


Would you not want to get your operating capital from those residences of Ferguson, Mo, Watts, CA or Detroit, MI?  How are those subscriptions going, by the bye?


I'll be happy  to share your racist view with birders I meet and if they are non-special-of-no-color. I'm sure they will appreciate you slamming them for not being of-non-color.  I think they just want to watch birds.  Again,  NG, well played race card, hopefully your deck and funding is being played out soon

Kyle Hall
Kyle Hall

What a JOKE of an "article".

franz weber
franz weber

What is wrong with you people? NOT everyone likes to watch birds. I am a white german, I do not drink beer like I should according to stereotype.  The whole articale is a bunch of crap! Who writes these headlines? And idiot!!!!!

Not enough seniors looking at porn? Give me a break and find something better to do!


Like this. What good are the discovery of dino bones? What good has that done to mankind? NOTHING.

Joseph Summerour
Joseph Summerour

A few considerations...from "Grandpa"

As we are discussing human interactions, over the years I have engaged in a number of different social/hobby organizations, e.g. church, stamp and coin collecting, historical societies, rock and mineral collecting, beer can collecting, Boy Scouts,... even sat in on a couple of local birding club meetings.

Every one of these groups has its own eccentrics (some more than others).  For the "insiders", we know the eccentrics and we have gotten used to their quirks.  At least until they "go too far", then a group will "invite them to leave" if they don't straighten up. We are also used to visitors that visit once and then never return.  (And we do sometimes wonder "why didn't that lady come back?")

Every person that visits an organization - for the first time - either: A) Goes with an established member; B) Goes with another "newbie"; or C) By themselves. 

If you are by yourself, walking into a room full of strangers can be intimidating.  Most organizations are constantly looking for "new blood", but if 3 or 4 members suddenly descend upon a shy visitor, that can be equally intimidating.  (Does it perhaps make the organization seem too desperate?  Too eager for membership dues?)  And what if the visitor has an encounter with one of the eccentrics (without being warned)?  As for the rest of the members at the meeting, it is human nature to be hesitant about approaching strangers.

Most of the people in these organizations are decent people and their hesitancy is not a sign of hostility.  If you show authentic interest by attending 2 or 3 consecutive meetings, some people will notice and will "warm up" to you, because your continued interest in the subject establishes you as a "kindred spirit".

If you are of an under-represented ethnicity in the group, please try to be forgiving of human mistakes.  Every "faux pas" (or poor attempt at humor) is not intended to be an insult.  Your patience and politely-humorous responses may be a "teachable moment" for the other person. 

As for being regarded with suspicions when birding, etc., I'm sorry it happens.  It is a good reason for the "buddy system".  During times when I have been engaged in outdoor nature photography or have been searching for rocks, minerals, fossils, or old beer cans - and even when working at gathering real estate data in new subdivisions - I have been regarded with suspicion by "locals" and/or cops.  Being polite and having a confident, plausible (and practiced) story might help.  Sometimes, "I'm a science teacher." or "My sister's a science teacher and I'm getting stuff for her." might help, well maybe not with the old beer cans. 

Confidence, politeness, patience, forgiveness...all of these help.

Sorry I switched into "teacher mode". 

Dallin Jensen
Dallin Jensen

Yesterday I looked at an ethnic map of America and I noticed city centers tend to be overwhelmingly of color, while suburbs and rural areas tend to be overwhelmingly white.  I would assume the more rural you are the more interesting birding might be?  Not suggesting that is the only reason, but that could partly explain it.

Carlos Ross
Carlos Ross

As a birder of color, I see the fact that people go on here and post disingenuously that the idea that there aren't more people of color in this hobby is a "manufactured problem" speaks to the complete and utter ignorance pervasive in American society that I *specifically* got into birding to avoid.  Minority groups are woefully underrepresented compared to the US population and the numbers bear that out.

But then, I have to carry my passport around with me anymore if I bird border regions because I can't trust the Minutemen to tell a Filipino from a Latino.   Just a symptom of the greater problems in our society that too many people are blinded by their own privilege to notice, or even acknowledge.

kris morgan
kris morgan

@P. Gauge NatGeo has always been part of the U.N.s bizarre, cult-like Progressive "do as I say not as I do" and "although everything we demand is contradictory, we demand you follow our demands" mentality. Even as a pre-teen I would laugh out loud at the monthly National Geographic articles- a subscription given to me by my well-meaning and card-carrying Communist grandmother.

Kris Chringle
Kris Chringle

@Adam Smith Usually, Kosher Kooks talk this way.  BUT, when they return to their own private communities, a different rule applies. Ultimately, you should really ask yourself why these terrible articles have found their way in National Geographic.

Nathan Swick
Nathan Swick

@K W It's an issue when there are those who are interested in a subject, but are unable to pursue it because of societal pressures.

Talking about race openly and honestly does not "feed the fires of segragation", it makes us more self-aware. And part of that awareness comes from being able to realize when our own white privilege allows for the free expression of our interests in a ways that our friends who are people of color are not able to experience.

It's not a birding problem, of course, it goes deeper than that and is as complex as race relations in the US are. Ignoring it or acting like it isn't a concern, absolutely makes it worse, though.

Nathan Swick
Nathan Swick

@Danusha Goska Pointing out that racism exists in the United States is not racist. It's that sort of knee-jerk response that prevents us from having any sort of productive discussion about race in America.

No one is claiming you are a racist, least of all Drew Lanham.

Nathan Swick
Nathan Swick

@P. Gauge If you knew anything about birds, you'd know that mixed flocks are far more common.

Nathan Swick
Nathan Swick

@Dallin Jensen There is good birding in close proximity of many large cities and large communities of birders in every one. That's not holding anyone back.

Diq Knowes
Diq Knowes

@Dallin Jensen that doesn't sell in Portland, Oregon. Outdoor School brings up the interest. Its not a matter of race, its a matter of interest. For many, the interest doesn't start until one is introduced.

David Owens
David Owens

@Carlos Ross You can always leave. Then you won't be endlessly persecuted by evil white people. Explain something to me, Carlos. If living among us is such a horror, why do you choose to live among us?

Gerard Van der Leun
Gerard Van der Leun

@Carlos Ross Oh get over yourself and stop being boringly predictable.  You are not now and never have been at all important. Neither are your petty self-centered concerns.

Rodolfo Vargas
Rodolfo Vargas

@Nathan Swick @K W Oh, please. You actually used 3 paragraphs to spout nonsense? We "people of color" do NOT need left-wing Whites to defend us. 

Lisa McCue
Lisa McCue

@Nathan Swick @K W No, it  is not a concern. No one cares if blacks want to bird watch or go mushroom hunting or wear pocket protectors. The only ones stopping them are themselves. I'd like to hear from any black Americans who wanted to bird watch or study ornithology who were prevented from doing so because of their skin color. I seriously doubt even one would come forward.

David Owens
David Owens

@Nathan Swick @K W I would like to see any evidence you have, any evidence whatsoever, that non-white minorities are in any way concerned with the survival of bird species.

K W
K W

@Nathan Swick @K W 

I understand that view, but I guess I just see things differently. Where are the statistics that people of other races are not birding because of societal pressures? I can see the city/suburb difference making much more sense (even when there are birding opportunities in the inner city - most people just have a hard time seeing the natural world behind city skylines - you see it every day in Boston - a very birdy city).  If someone wants to be a birder, then they're going to be a birder - regardless of societal pressures...each person has their own will-power to do whatever they want regardless of their race or background. Every person on this planet is faced with societal pressures in one respect or another, and some more than others - but to point it out in black and white and write these subjective articles isn't going to solve the main problem - which in contrary to your opinion, I think it could potentially make the larger scale societal issue even worse.

Once people stop seeing color/race as being different and having to distinguish it as such and further analyze every societal difference between them - the sooner all this crap will cease to be.

Sanity LivesHere
Sanity LivesHere

@Nathan Swick @Danusha Goska  Except every single time a white tries to engage in a "productive discussion about race in America" and they have the audacity to be honest they're shut down by an accusation of "raaaaaacist!"


Truth isn't racist, it's just truth.  Something no proglodyte has ever been able to handle without their head exploding.

Carlos Ross
Carlos Ross

@Gerard Van der Leun Yeah.  I won three days on Jeopardy.  What did you do with your life this past calendar year?  Spout racist rhetoric on National Geographic?  Good for you.

P. Gauge
P. Gauge

@David Owens Don't bother with @Nathan Swick @K W He just has the disease and is ridden with mental and spiritual buboes and will not be cured. Just keep away from him and burn his corpse along with the others.  PS Stay out of the smoke.

Nathan Swick
Nathan Swick

@K W I think that there are certainly some who will bird because they want to regardless of the pressures. We see them in the field, and they deal with a lot.

But there are others who may not want to deal with the hassle. Nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice if that was not a barrier.

Other folks may not want to bird for their own reasons. That's fine too, not everyone has to be a birder.

I wish we lived in a world where people stopped seeing color/race as an issue. That would be great. We're not there, and acknowledging why that is helps us reach that ideal world, and sadly this crap won't cease until then. 

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