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[–]Rejusu -8 ポイント-7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ditto. People need to be realistic. Unless people boycott en mass, which isn't going to happen, then boycotting their product only screws yourself over. Sure it might stroke your ego to have the knowledge that they don't have your money (even though you also know that they won't even notice) but I'd rather be playing Netrunner.

[–]voodoochile78Chaos Theory 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people do what they can and what they can live with. For example, some people avoid Wal-Mart, drive hybrid cars (or don't drive at all!), bring their own reusable bags to the supermarket, etc. These people already know that Wal-Mart is going to keep on trucking, that people aren't going to stop driving suvs and using plastic bags, so there's no need to point this things out. But they are living in accordance with their values.

[–]StillBornVodka -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So activism doesn't start with a single person, it starts with a mass movement? I'm not sure you understand how making a statement on a personal level translates to larger results.

Unless people boycott en mass, which isn't going to happen, then boycotting their product only screws yourself over.

You certainly don't speak for me here. I'm not "screwed over" by no longer playing. It's a moral decision, and I am moving on to better things. My personal decision alone may not make a difference, ever; but that's not the point at all.

Sure it might stroke your ego to have the knowledge that they don't have your money (even though you also know that they won't even notice) but I'd rather be playing Netrunner.

The irony of the "stroke your ego" line here is quite palpable, considering who is actually stroking their ego here. I don't care if they notice or not, that isn't the point. The point is I don't participate with my money in this kind of behavior, and that's it. Add whatever sentiment you wish to make your statement seem more valid, but that's all there is to it for me. I won't be going to tournaments, I won't be buying datapacks - none of it. And others are going to be doing the same.

It hurts the community, that's the bottom line.

[–]Rejusu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So activism doesn't start with a single person, it starts with a mass movement? I'm not sure you understand how making a statement on a personal level translates to larger results.

That's not what I said or implied. I'm not sure you understand what a straw man argument is, or you wouldn't be making one. Activism may start with a single person, but it certainly doesn't end with a single person. Do you honestly believe that a boycott of FFG products could build enough momentum over this incident? Remember that this incident only affects a subgroup of a subgroup of FFGs customer base. Specifically it's only had an effect on Netrunner players and of those players only those that use NRDB or frequent Reddit (or other community sites). It doesn't even have enough weight to affect Netrunner, let alone FFG as a whole. You can make your point about activism starting with a single person, but you need to understand that a movement without momentum isn't going anywhere.

You certainly don't speak for me here. I'm not "screwed over" by no longer playing. It's a moral decision, and I am moving on to better things. My personal decision alone may not make a difference, ever; but that's not the point at all.

Really? You haven't invested money and time into the game? You don't enjoy playing it? Because frankly I think you're on the wrong sub if the answer to both those questions is "no".

The irony of the "stroke your ego" line here is quite palpable, considering who is actually stroking their ego here.

I'll give you a hint: it's you. You are making a decision that is not rational by choosing to give up a game that you obviously enjoy and are invested in despite the fact it's not going to make a shred of difference. You are making this decision purely because it gives you a sense of self satisfaction, that you believe you are doing what is right. And hey, you're completely free to do that. But don't pretend it isn't a completely egotistical decision, because it is.

And others are going to be doing the same.

And no one will notice, or miss them.

It hurts the community, that's the bottom line.

So does players ditching it, but whatever.