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Here is a picture of what it looks like when your pediatric spinal surgeon uses the wrong size screws in your lower back. Can you find the problem? Hint: Those screws were supposed to stay in my vertebrae (i.imgur.com)

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[–]Smeeee 904 ポイント905 ポイント x2 (24子コメント)

ER doc. Feel free to downvote me to shit. I just worked an overnight shift, so I'm too tired to care.

No doctor I have ever met doesn't give a shit when he/she fucks up. The majority of us go into medicine because we want to help people and we work very hard for many years to perfect our skills. We all strive for perfection. We all want to do a good job.

Posts like this get under my skin. The way the OP has worded things: e.g. "thrown" around by PT, especially, angers me.

We go over risks and benefits before any procedure for a reason: because cutting into you can have its complications. It's unfortunate that you, OP, had a complication. It sucks that it had to be you, but I would be shocked if your doctor didn't review risks and benefits before doing your surgery. And I assume that's why you're having trouble filing a lawsuit.

We strive for perfection, but we can never guarantee perfect results. Your surgeon wanted you to be better. He wasn't trying to fuck things up. Going on the internet, dramatically telling your story, and trying to have people gather their pitchforks in your honor is not going to make the pain any better. In fact, continuing this anger will probably just make your pain worse. You had pain and a significant deformity before, you still have pain now. Try to look towards a positive future, and not the negative past, or things will never move on.

Good luck.

[–]shittynarrator[S] -11 ポイント-10 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Like I said in another comment, I have no issues with my doctor personally. He made a mistake, and has malpractice insurance for cases like that. He was clearly upset when he was telling us what had happened in our outpatient visit.

My doctor actually did not go over the risks in detail, he summarized it by saying "I'm sure you know any surgeries have risks, I've never had any major issues though." I had only one 30 minute appointment with him discussing the surgery, and then he set up the date. At 16 I wasn't thinking about specific things like this, and he actually never even explained any details about the procedure itself. Everything seemed like normal day to day business with him until the problems started.

My comments in regards to PT are because I was clearly in large amounts of pain. My doctor even said that he thought something was wrong at the time because I had such an abnormal response to the movements they had me doing. The fact that he did not do any immediate tests, and allowed them to continue to possibly exacerbate any issues, while an understandable mistake, is what I was trying to point out.

Its a lot different from your viewpoint than mine. My doctor worked hard all his life to get where he's at, and now is living a great, healthy life. I was starting out my life and now have a ton of complications with day to day functions. You see thousands and thousands of patients in your career, its easy to begin to write off individual people's problems. I'm not saying he's an asshole that doesn't care. I simply disagree with the idea that I should be fine with the way things went, and just "understand that surgery is risky" when its my ONE body that got irreparably fucked, just to make the mental side of your job easier.

The fact that your major concern is with the connotations to the words that I'm using, shows how desensitized people get to their work. Are being unreasonably upset with your doctor and being physically fucked for life even in the same realm as far as their importance?

[–]Smeeee 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I can guarantee you that your doctor didn't brush off your poor outcome, just like I have never forgotten a case when things didn't go as planned. I can see bowels on a stretcher, I can see grey matter on the floor, but I have to do my job. To those things I am desensitized. But don't think for a second that we just brush you off as a number. We do not get desensitized to poor outcomes.

You said in the first paragraph you have no problems with your doctor personally, but in the last paragraph you say you are "unreasonably upset" with him.

Like I said, I wish you the best, and I'm sorry you had to go through this, as I know your doctor is too.

[–]cardevitoraphicticia 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Man, I wish all doctors were like that, but my experience is otherwise.

The last time I went to my surgeon about pain, he literally said "I don't need to see you again" - AFTER I told him I still had pain and loss of function. He ran his practice like a business.

Maybe some doctors are good and some bad?

[–]goodguybrian 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

plot twist: you are a drug addict that's been hounding the poor doc for months

[–]ihatenamingshit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How the fuck would you know?

[–]ne99ne 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I am so sorry for what you are going through. However, a mistake during surgery is not a malpractice. Also, at age 16 were you even able to give an informed consent for such a procedure? Were your parents part of the process?

[–]neuronauticist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

A mistake during surgery is, by definition, malpractice if a reasonable surgeon would have chosen otherwise. That's how they distinguish mistakes that anyone could have made from mistakes that are malpractice, and why your case is tried by a jury of your peers, or with expert witnesses to give testimony about what a reasonable practitioner would/should have done in the defendants place.

[–]ne99ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You italicized the correct part, but that is then not a "mistake" it is a failure to follow accepted practices, or a negligence.

A "mistake" in surgery is not the same as a "mistake" when cooking from a recipe. There are too many unknowns. Elsewhere in the comments is a neurosurgeon talking about the advantages/disadvantages of various screw lengths, and actually getting them into the pedicle properly, with pics!

[–]fuckinDEAD 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Actually that's exactly what malpractice is

[–]ne99ne 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it isn't. Plenty can go wrong in surgery, that does not mean it rises to the level of a malpractice, which would be an egregious failure to follow accepted practices. Surgery is as much art as science.

mal·prac·tice malˈpraktəs/Submit noun

improper, illegal, or negligent professional activity or treatment, especially by a medical practitioner, lawyer, or public official.

[–]Elmepo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Malpractice is suffering caused by a deviation from the standard of care. The practioner has to deliberately do something for it to be malpractice.

[–]SuperKook 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Malpractice doesn't have to be deliberate, it can be accidental. When you talk about deliberate malpractice, you dip into negligent malpractice.

[–]ReginaldDouchely 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It'd be a lot easier to read this and feel like you're being reasonable if you didn't bring up the health of the doctor (which has nothing to do with this at all and just makes you sound vindictively jealous), or acknowledged the fact that you weren't perfectly healthy going into this (because saying your one body got irreparably fucked does not paint an accurate picture).

[–]too_lazy_2_punctuate 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gotta say I agree with the desensitization. You have been severely wronged here and the top comment basically says life's not fair, tough shit.

[–]youcancallmealsdkf 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just wanna comment and say I TOTALLY agree with this