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[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 21 日 前 (57子コメント)
So no sales and no agents? For 200 dollars a pop? And this is BETTER than the Black List?
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント 21 日 前 (56子コメント)
Maybe you should read the response. Or do you think DAVID LANDCASTER DIDN'T PAY FOR THE SCRIPT HE'S PRODUCING? And when they say Benderspink is representing one of the scripts, to you that means NO representation?
Ya know, sorry you can't get over your Specscout experience, but srsly, you can't read now because of the trauma? I think you should sue.
[–]Lookout3Professional Screenwriter 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 21 日 前* (0子コメント)
I would bet you a million dollars that David Landcaster did not pay for that script. If for no reason other than that if he had, the person from Specscout would have certainly led with that rather than say he was "producing it."
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 21 日 前 (35子コメント)
21 LAPS is producing my Black List script SOVEREIGN. They haven't paid a dime for it. Plenty of people don't pay for the scripts they're producing. That's not the job of the producer. That's the job of the studio. Don't you think they'd trumpet a sale from the rooftops?
Maybe you would know these things happen if you spent more time trying to understand how the business works and less trying to hatchet Franklin Leonard.
Seriously dude, this whole thing has a real nasty TAXI DRIVER vibe to it.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 21 日 前 (34子コメント)
21 LAPS is producing my Black List script SOVEREIGN. They haven't paid a dime for it.
Are you saying that you have no contract to be paid for your work but you gave someone the right to produce your script?
I don'y "hatchet" FL. He manages that by himself. I did find out a fact. So, how's that raeding comprehension thing going for ya?
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 21 日 前 (15子コメント)
I gave someone else the right to put a package (actors, directors) around my script to find a financier, either a studio or an independent shingle. There have unfortunately been snags, but the movie doesn't get made or take any tangible step forward without me and my partner getting paid.
Again, learn the difference between someone that's PRODUCING a movie and someone that's PAYING for a movie.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 21 日 前 (14子コメント)
Uh-huh. So no one is producing anything yet. You're in development.
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 21 日 前 (13子コメント)
You don't understand the terms you're using. At all. Because you don't understand the business.
Ask any WGA writer on here about the terminology, and see if any of them have a problem with the sentence: 21 LAPS is producing SOVEREIGN.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 21 日 前 (12子コメント)
Oh, I understand them. It's why I asked. Because you can give all kinds of impressions using words that can mean a variety of things. Thanks for explaining. So, what's going on with you is possibly not at all what's going on with Landcaster. Point is, you claimed no one had been paid. The only person you know hasn't been paid is, well, you.
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 21 日 前 (8子コメント)
Oh, I understand them.
No, you don't understand them. Being able to type them does not mean comprehension.
So, what's going on with you is probably not at all what's going on with Landcaster.
Prove it then. Find the sale.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 21 日 前 (7子コメント)
LOL! "Prove it!" YOU prove it, dude. I posted an email from a guy at SpecScout and you made a huge assumption. You hate SS, you have a personal grudge, everyone knows it. We disagreed about this before and now every post to me carries the background of your self-righteous outrage against the site.
It's informational. That's all. People can do what they like with the info.
You want more info, you email SpecScout.
[–]TrickyTiger 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 21 日 前 (2子コメント)
u/beardsayswhat didn't make the claim that nobody has been paid, only that having a producer attached is by no means proof that somebody has been paid.
[–]wrytagain[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 21 日 前 (1子コメント)
"No sales." You really want to quibble about when the check arrives?
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 21 日 前 (17子コメント)
Also, for the record, Benderspink is a management company, NOT an agency. Again, big difference.
[–]takeB12 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 21 日 前 (1子コメント)
Why do people always seem to give you shit for not having had your movie made yet? As screenwriters, we should be happy that good scripts are getting attention. :)
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 21 日 前 (0子コメント)
Because misery loves company!
[–]wrytagain[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 21 日 前 (14子コメント)
Yeah. Maybe you should listen to their podcast.
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 21 日 前 (13子コメント)
Would it tell me that they're an agency and not a management company? Or are you not admitting to not knowing something?
[–]wrytagain[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 21 日 前 (12子コメント)
http://www.scriptsandscribes.com/2014/02/podcast-jake-wagner/
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 21 日 前 (11子コメント)
From the first line of the description:
We talk to Benderspink manager/producer Jake Wagner
READ THE SHIT YOU POST DAWG
[–]wrytagain[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 21 日 前 (10子コメント)
Okay. So. You won't go yourself. You did know that Benderspink is a production company as well as a "management" company, right? Or did you think they had nothing to do with sales of spec scripts? I said to listen to the podcast because this specific guy has multiple spec sales to his credit. http://www.imdb.com/company/co0044439/
So, that's Benderspink. Now. It's also true that there are many management companies that do no producing at all. But they still sell specs. And get writers jobs. Because a lot of screenwriters these days don't use agents at all.
I don't know why you don't know this. Or why you would push me into spelling all of this out instead of just go listen to the podcast.
You're wrong. You're assumption that I didn't know, just made obvious how much you didn't know. You're the one screaming. Not me.
I posted information. All the dogs came sniffing 'round to attack. It's information. Not personal. Take it or leave it.
[–]Dofleini 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 21 日 前 (18子コメント)
Do people really need to link things like TB's contests and testimonials to show you how stupid it is that you're lauding Spec scout for ONE SINGLE MGR. REPRESENTATION?
[–]beardsayswhat2013 Black List Screenwriter 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 21 日 前 (0子コメント)
No dude! You don't understand! Franklin Leonard is like... a jerk or something! For some reason!
[–]wrytagain[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 21 日 前 (16子コメント)
"Lauding?" Look. This is information. Use it or don't. Read the whole blog post and try to understand the information. Go ship FL your money, if you like. I really don't care.
[–]worff 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 21 日 前 (13子コメント)
I really don't care.
No, you definitely do. You're crusading against him and BlackList like some fucking fanboy defending the only console his mother would buy him.
You got beef, bro. Get that checked out.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 21 日 前 (12子コメント)
No, you definitely do...
Nope. But that was a nice post about Tracking Board.
[–]worff 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 21 日 前 (11子コメント)
Well those are just facts, and they're relevant, especially seeing as you saw fit to brag about SpecScout's meager success. And TB even has the price going for it -- I didn't bother to mention it.
You're just a petulant child who likes to start fights and throw tantrums. But look here in this thread and see how little everyone cares about your bullshit.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 21 日 前 (10子コメント)
Well those are just facts, and they're relevant, especially seeing as you saw fit to brag about SpecScout's meager success..
"Brag about?" No, just posting information. You weren't "bragging" about Tracking Board, right?
There's a fairly well-known post, I think I linked the thread in the blog post, where 120_pages talks about the one sale per 12,000 scripts hosted on the BL. I'm not sure what SpecScout will be reporting when they launch the revamped website at the end of the month, but having only 60 scripts that qualified for the Library and having 10% of those get some kind of significant response from the industry is mathematically fairly significant relative to what we've heard from the BL.
The stat I'd like to see from FL is how many of the scripts that the Black List covered got the coveted 8 or better to put them on the email list. Then we'd have some idea what the actual percentage of positive results is.
Another question, and I'd like to know this about any of the services, is what it costs to keep the script on the site available for industry downloads once the target score is achieved. At Specscout it costs nothing. Nor does it cost more to upload any other scripts without paying for more coverage. That's how it is today. We'll see if that changes at the end of the month.
The Black List, unless there has been a very recent change I know nothing about, charges you every month for every script, regardless of the score.
I have no idea what Tracking Board does.
[–]TrickyTiger 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 21 日 前* (2子コメント)
I said this the last time you posted the "one sale per 12,000 scripts" stat, but I don't think it represents what you think it does.
I'd be worried about a site that had 10% of their total scripts get a significant response. Far, far less than 10% of all scripts are good, and I honestly think this gets closer to your bitterness.
You seem driven to find which site will give the easiest score, and biggest shortcut to access.
Personally I think it's much more valuable to have a site that will provide the opportunity for access equally, and not just give it out because you paid money for the privilege. Nobody wins from a spec sale made on shortcuts. The entire industry suffers.
EDIT: Just reread the stat, and I see it's not 10% total.
[–]wrytagain[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 21 日 前 (1子コメント)
I said this the last time you posted the "one sale per 12,000 scripts" stat, but I don't think it represents what you think it does. Well, I don't think it represents what 120_pages seemed to think it did.
That is, I think it's a false comparison the way he used it. And until we have better access to numbers from both sites, there's no way to be sure what that represents in reality.
I think it's incredibly difficult to get a 68 or better on Specscout. And I see no reason why we shouldn't all be looking for a shortcut to access.
[–]worff 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 21 日 前 (6子コメント)
"Brag about?" No, just posting information.
No, you were bragging and using it as a way to criticize BL, as if it were some kind of accomplishment. I stated what I said very matter-of-factly. It's not just what you say, it's how you say it.
And the way you laud SpecScout is ridiculous. Why are you so invested?
And only an idiot would keep a low scoring script hosted. And who cares about those idiots?
Damn, you're pretty ignorant. How can you not know about all of the comparable services if you're here making posts about coverage and hosting and writer advancement services?
[–]wrytagain[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 21 日 前* (5子コメント)
No, you were bragging
Worff, when people "brag" it usually - always - involves their own accomplishments.
And the way you laud SpecScout is ridiculous.
"Laud?" Again, you use words that have no relationship to context. It's a better deal, IMO. In anyone's opinion, I should think. Do you have a different way of viewing the facts that would make the BL look like a better deal instead? Then post them. Insulting me doesn't change the facts. Characterizing my posts as something they aren't, also doesn't change the facts.
[–]Dofleini 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 21 日 前 (1子コメント)
LMAO. Dude, you care so much I can feel the cranky through my computer screen.
[+]wrytagain[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 21 日 前 (0子コメント)
Like I said, sorry about your bruised ego.
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