by Strid3r on 2014-09-22 10:54 CET

The abzan and jeskai decknames are swapped.

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by Strid3r on 2014-09-22 10:57 CET

Fixed!

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by Alpha_n1 on 2014-09-22 11:17 CET

mazzaza is also abzan.

this weekend people were saying that siege rhino was an awesome card. I was saying it as just worse then Polukranos.

Is the 6 life swing relevant enough??

In a empty space, polukranos is just a better card than rhino, right?
only 1 color, 5/5, can kill one creature and grow bigger.
rhino, 4/5 gives 3 damage win 3 life for 3 colours.

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by Strid3r on 2014-09-22 11:37 CET

Polukranos can be removed whole with creature removal and if siege rhino is removed the 6 life change stays, so that is the main advantage. Without removal polukranos is clearly better.

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by ___ on 2014-09-22 11:40 CET

Trample is relevant too.
Reaper of the wilds seems really good in this meta, but it's probably the less versatile one (rhino and polu are better vs aggro)

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by ___ on 2014-09-22 11:50 CET

Empty the pits seems unplayable as a card to me. Especially if your deck is already susceptible to bile blight and drown in sorrow.

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by Sveiks on 2014-09-22 13:50 CET

Empty the Pits is amazing as a sideboard card in mirrors.

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by aytor_92 on 2014-09-22 15:07 CET

Is imposible compare rhino with polu, both are totally different. Rhino must be in, in all junk lists. 6 life is super relevant.
Ultimately if I play junk, I'll play rhino over polu for sure.

PD: whip + rhino = craziness

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by aytor_92 on 2014-09-22 15:07 CET

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by aytor_92 on 2014-09-22 15:09 CET

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by _Godica on 2014-09-22 16:16 CET

In this meta, Rhino > Reaper >>>>> Polukranos.

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by Sveiks on 2014-09-22 17:06 CET

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by HornyGoat on 2014-09-22 20:39 CET

Holy crap that is a lot of Junk decks. Feels like Ashiok would do pretty well against all the midrange strategies floating about.

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by Talroma on 2014-09-23 00:47 CET

how many people were in the master?

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by Alpha_n1 on 2014-09-23 10:56 CET

when i see a junk meta, i feel like polukranos is better than rhino.

when i see a control meta, i would like the rhine cause the 6 damage life swing is there.

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by Kabelis on 2014-09-23 14:58 CET

Don't make promises you can't keep, Sveiks ;/

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by mazaza on 2014-09-23 17:38 CET

I think Aytor's list should actually be entitled "Abzan reanimator", as one of the primary tactics is to use your graveyard, which pretty much none of the others do, except for the copies of murderous cut.

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by mazaza on 2014-09-23 17:41 CET

And as for rhino, rhino is your ultimate finisher, the trample gets you there a lot.

I wouldn't be playing less than 4, as is evidenced in my list, I think that Polukranos is pretty good too.

I am not sure where I stand on reaper, it evades removal but that isn't necessarily what I am looking for and just seems to give me less value than either Polukranos or Rhino.

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by Strid3r on 2014-09-23 18:24 CET

Some of the decks could be called abzan control too.

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