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SSB4Katsu Kity replies to Mew2King incident... (self.smashbros)

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http://imgur.com/1cRd2ux Update Katsu's proof http://i.imgur.com/oXZz3RZ.png Update 2 http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2hdf6w/katsu_kity_replies_to_mew2king_incident/ckrprqz Mew2King's response

For those of you that don't know Mew2King hasn't been streaming Sm4sh recently due to two non-functioning 3ds capture boards (which cost a huge amount of moolah) and claims that the company has terrible customer service. I posted Mew2King's post on Katsu's facebook page and he has replied in the link provided above. What's strange is that Katsu claims Mew2King ordered one replacement unit and seven additional units. I'm really curious on how this plays out and to see if either Mew2 or Katsu is telling the truth.

And no I'm not on anybody's side.

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[–]GIMR 502 ポイント503 ポイント  (47子コメント)

Look guys. I don't know what M2K demanded but mine was faulty and they told me to send it to them and they'd charge me a repair fee after I made it clear to them that it was because of their faulty wiring. The capture device sits RIGHT on top of the audio out port with out any rubber or insulation or whatever inbetween. The cable I used that shorted my Katsu Kity 3DS did not short my regular 3DS.

[–]confessionalEspurr 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (30子コメント)

This should be higher up.

These guys sound shady and like they're taking advantage of the relative monopoly they have right now.

[–]SkyeKuma 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (29子コメント)

People are taking this as if M2K is using his name to destroy a company.

Yet none of the people who bash him can prove what M2K said was false.

Not saying it's true, but with both side lacking true evidence, I'd have to side with M2k due to his position.

I don't think of him as a person who would lie purposely to slander a company.

[–]mew2king 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I wouldn't dude, I literally have been explaining my reasoning/thoughts in like 30 other responses on these two threads.

[–]ClickDecision 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

asking -- erm actually "demanding" 8 3DSs as compensation is insane no matter how you look at it though...

[–]Fecespaw 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It isn't that insane. In a number of US states if he sued and proved that the faulty capture card caused a loss in revenue he'd be eligible for compensation. Asking for capture cards to settle it out of court seems reasonable enough.

[–]SkyeKuma 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw, this is before I've seen your responses.

I know you aren't trying to do wrong, but your wording at times are construed.

My advice to you is to just take it down a notch. Contact katsu again and try to reach an agreement. I wish you the best of luck and hope you can get back on your feet from this experience.

[–]sseessee 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

m2k, it seems like you really don't have the mental capability ("I trust my friends more than myself") to achieve your dream of becoming a "full time streamer". It also seems you lack friends who can help you achieve said dream (seven 3ds? really?). AND it seems like you lack any sense of responsibility and continuously shift blame to others ("I did what he told me to").

You should either give up your crazy dream, or get some fucking professional help cuz otherwise this shit's just going to continue happening.

[–]BrokenAngels00 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (8子コメント)

People are taking this as if M2K is using his name to destroy a company.

Except that's exactly what he's doing..

[–]SkyeKuma 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Post proof that his intention was to use his name to defame katsu.

His intention was to make other smashers aware as a form of revenge, but I see nowhere where he has specifically stated that he was using his fame within the smash community to destroy the reputation of katsu.

This, is again, why I wish he posted this anonymously. His status is a problem because people are so caught up with "M2K" that we might not be looking at what he was potentially trying to portray as just "Jason".

[–]rayzorium 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see nowhere where he has specifically stated that he was using his fame within the smash community to destroy the reputation of katsu

That's a unrealistically high standard of evidence. Nobody just declares "I am using my fame to destroy this person's reputation."

Plus, you're making it sound like he isn't aware of his status or the weight it gives to his words. If he didn't want to use his fame, he would have posted anonymously. But he knew it would frontpage simply because he was the one who posted it.

I don't even think it's a bad thing. If you get screwed by a company, it makes sense to let a ton of people know. And if you happen have fame among people to which it's relevant, I'd say you almost have a responsibility to abuse that.

[–]NonaSuomi282 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

From his initial admission:

I told Katsukity that they screwed me over pretty badly, and they needed to give me compensation, OR I would let the other smashers know about their bad service (twice).

and later

So I decided to go with plan B, which is tell all the smashers about their bad service

For 2 reasons 1) so other smashers don't buy into this scam (to help other smashers) 2) revenge (they are screwing me and don't care, so now I will screw them over back)

That's about as clear as you can get without him explicitly writing "I made this post to tarnish their reputation."

[–]CriticalRibbon 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Intent isn't necessarily important.

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    [–]tears4brd 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    because he said he wanted 8 3ds with capture cards or else he would tell everyone how horrible they are!!! thefuck?

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      [–]mew2king 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      They screwed over a lot of people but some people had it way worse than others. It's heavily luck-based on each person's experiences because each person got completely different results based off of ... well.. luck.

      [–]GIMR 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I remember with your first capture 3DS we had to restart the program every 10 minutes. With mine and yours the audio in the program would randomly peak. This is why I used my audio cable to try and get audio from the Headphones out port on the 3DS and it it fried it

      [–]Rapta22 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What kind of audio cable did you use?

      [–]mew2king 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Exactly. Too bad most people won't even read this.

      [–]SkyeKuma 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Next time, you should probably include this information. It's pretty important for us to know what happened in detail and why you had a negative experience rather than just saying "it didn't work" etc.

      Eh, this thing has gotten a bit bigger than it should've. I hope you and Katsu reach an agreement.

      [–]YamiSilaas 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Look M2K. I understand where you're coming from but you need to realize that social skills are a thing. From the perspective of an outside source you look like a raving lunatic making completely unreasonable demands.

      [–]NonaSuomi282 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You know M2K, I going to offer you some recommended reading, since you apparently missed this one as a kid: The Boy Who Cried Wolf. It's a pretty popular one; I'm sure your local librarian can find you a copy.

      You proved to the community that you are unreasonable and unreliable, and willing to leverage your reputation and lie to us in order to get what you want, and yes: lies of omission are still lies. You cannot expect people to take you seriously immediately after proving that you are untrustworthy, and making a snarky comment like this only further cements the image of you being someone who only looks out for himself.

      [–]fireb0rnMC 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I see this whole accusation about M2K as a complete red herring. Sure, maybe he did demand reparations or whatever. But presumably he did so because he was so frustrated about having received such abysmal service and being required to shell additional money out of his own pockets just to get the product that he paid for in the first place. And he still doesn't have that product after two months and having apparently already sent it in for repair once. That's ridiculous.

      [–]TheOthin 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Indeed. I can 100% believe M2K demanded compensation and maybe went a bit overboard; it's something I've done many times myself. But bringing that up as if that's all there is to the situation is incredibly dishonest; it's an attempt to avoid the already-existing technical and customer service problems that prompted it.

      I can believe they're telling the truth about his demand, but it doesn't change the issues with their service.

      [–]3gaway 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Oh please. How would you possibly take someone seriously when he's asking for 8 DS's. They offered to send him a new one if he returns the old one and that's all they have to do. What more do you want from them? It's not dishonest at all for them to want to protect their reputation from false accusations.

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          [–]Gold_Jacobson 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Everyone, gather around.

          [–]crusf 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Damn, you took the last chair now we have to stand and watch!

          [–]DesiacX 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Game and Watch main here, let me spawn some chairs out of nothing for yah.

          [–]Johnny_Gossamer 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The rest of us will have to footstool

          [–]groovygarrett 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm not surprised I've already clicked this link before.

          [–]Troutz 150 ポイント151 ポイント  (207子コメント)

          M2K just said on Shofu's stream that he did ask for the additional capture cards, as compensation for the money he 'lost' from the past two weeks. So Katsu isn't bullshitting.

          [–]voidFunction 75 ポイント76 ポイント  (11子コメント)

          And then he conveniently forgot to mention that in his Reddit post when trying to build up a personal army.

          [–]seakladoom 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Can't Wavedash out of this one /u/mew2king!

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            [–]TheWrongPerspective 173 ポイント174 ポイント  (19子コメント)

            If this is true then Mew2King might be fucking stupid.

            [–]chocolatesandwiches 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (15子コメント)

            I knew m2k has made some weird decisions in the past but I didn't think he was this dumb/naive/weird.

            fuck.

            [–]danielvutran 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (14子コメント)

            dumb is not really the right word here, he's being objective in his checks and balances, but just does not account for actual real world scenarios in terms of obscenity. to him he lost a potential 100 subscribers, and 65 actual lost subs, that equates to a certain amount of money from twitch, as well as all the followers. he is simply saying that 7-8 capture cards would be fair to ask for in order to ''balance'' the lost since it is entirely their fault for him not being able to stream and gain those potential profits. it makes complete sense, so dumb is not the right word. naive though definitely is right.

            //just explaining why m2k isn't dumb and never really has been dumb, just naive. but then again he is not mentally on the same plane as regular people. if i were KK though, i would give him extra capture cards for sure. because i actually grasp the full damage that has been done. maybe not 7-8 though lol because idk how fulfilling their business is, but at least 3-4.

            [–]donpianta 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            It is not their fault that he lost the subs AT ALL. If he cannot stream smash and he wants to maintain constant subs on his channel then MAYBE he should look into streaming something else. He is the only person responsible for the content on his stream.

            [–]NonaSuomi282 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It's not even lost subs that he's bitching about it's lost potential subs. He's trying to get compensation for subs that he did not get, not for ones that he lost. It's deliciously absurd.

            [–]smasherdasher 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (11子コメント)

            he is simply saying that 7-8 capture cards would be fair to ask for in order to ''balance'' the lost since it is entirely their fault for him not being able to stream and gain those potential profits

            wrong. he can get a job. his income isn't Katsu's problem. he made the decision to stream the 3ds, Katsu isn't financially responsible for m2ks decisions

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              [–]smasherdasher 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              that's m2k's fault, not his.

              he made the decision to make his income through streaming. that's his risk and his responsbility, he can't blame other people for his problems. pretend he bought a phone and he reviews them for youtube videos and makes money on ads. is it samsungs fault he makes no money if his phones get sent late? or is it the reviewers fault for risking his income on a package that he's yet to receive

              [–]RadiantSun 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I'm really loving how people keep coming out of the woodwork to defend what is literally legally defined as extortion because KK gave him bad customer service. I really question whether or not some of these people actually THINK about what they're saying.

              [–]BrokenAngels00 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              He hasn't lost any money yet (except the shipping from repair). The money he may have gotten from streaming doesn't exist, which is why it's "potential income".

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                [–]F00LY 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                If this is true then Mew2King might be fucking stupid.

                While true, Katsu is also stupid. If I went to Walmart right now, and bought an item that didn't work, came back with it, had evidence of it not working as intended, and asked for 10 more, they'd laugh at me.

                They'd laugh at me, but they'd still refund my money for the 1.

                That's the difference here. His demands (that he never should've listened too) were asinine, yes, but so was their refusal to be a proper service.

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                  [–]ShadowthePast 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Can confirm. He's still in Shofu's stream now so he's bound to talk about it again

                  http://www.twitch.tv/shofu

                  [–]SXcalibur 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  Yeah, I heard it too. That's ridiculous on his part. If you're gonna ask for extra, ask for like ONE extra.

                  [–]DrDongStrong 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  That's pretty dickish

                  [–]BrokenAngels00 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  And now he's offended when people (rightfully) tweet and say he was in the wrong for demanding 7 more 3DS's.

                  [–]sidestep_knockout 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (30子コメント)

                  Well, it's settled.

                  M2K fucked up, he will lose respect from this.

                  [–]voidFunction 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  M2K could release a video series about kicking puppies and not divert the M2K fanboyism.

                  [–]sboles66 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Once you get a meme, you're in the CJ for life.

                  [–]sidestep_knockout 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I don't know anything about him, but he did act in a wrong way, so I guess some of his fans will consider that.

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                    [–]smasherdasher 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    celebrity complex

                    [–]mew2king 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (122子コメント)

                    Here's what happened

                    I told Katsukity that they screwed me over pretty badly, and they needed to give me compensation, OR I would let the other smashers know about their bad service (twice).

                    I asked pbnj what kind of compensation was fair for the 2 important weeks I lost. I didn't know what to ask. He said get more DSes. I asked how many. He said 7. So that's what I asked for.

                    I honestly think that is not too unfair since I lost probably about 2k based off what zero's making in the same time period

                    Had they tried to respond to me on what type of compensation to give me, I likely would have lowered it a lot

                    Even if they acted nice

                    Nope

                    They didn't respond to that comment at all in any of the emails and they were rather rude and wanted me to pay for basically everything

                    No offer of compensation for anything

                    They also gave bad service to Gimr and Zero's DS had problems but still worked. I believe but am not 100% sure that leffen is having problems too as well as a few other people. I'm not the only one but I have it by far the worst unfortunately.

                    So I decided to go with plan B, which is tell all the smashers about their bad service

                    For 2 reasons 1) so other smashers don't buy into this scam (to help other smashers) 2) revenge (they are screwing me and don't care, so now I will screw them over back)

                    since they wasted all my time and my money

                    I'm not letting that slide for free

                    if you don't agree with me I'm sorry

                    but this is how I think of things and in my mind this is completely fair.

                    So even in my mind, right now, although I did lose 430 dollars in addition to 2 weeks of very important stream time (in the most important 2 weeks), I am glad people can know of their horrible service to stop others from buying their products.

                    [–]sboles66 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    You didn't even say why you wanted the additional 7 dses. You made the problem worse by leaving the other part ignorant, by randomly adding the fact that you "deserve" to get 7 dses.

                    [–]Bemy_Gunshot 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    I can confirm that ZeRo has had problems too. I few days ago he was about to play with Jiggs and I wanted to check that out.

                    Then suddenly the video failed and he had to fix it after finishing the match, taking a little while.

                    On the other hand...I always support you Jason, but this time I'm gonna have to agree with the people saying that you went over the line asking for 7 more. You should've said that when you pointed them out.

                    [–]zipzo6 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    Zero uses loopy' equipment does he not?

                    [–]Tainysi 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Zero does use loopy's equipment but has bought from Katsu. I'll say what he said on stream.
                    -Zero wanted a refund because Katsu only wanted VHL shipping from usps and zero did not have access to any near USPS
                    -They said "nope, no refund, what we can do is charge you more for an american/japan/eu DS then ship it to you after it installs"
                    -Zero said "Alright fine send me a US one, having an extra one is needed anyways"
                    -Katsu said "lol nope, only got japanese ones"
                    -In the end they charged him a japanese 3ds and shipping and all that jazz, aparently it worked just fine for Zero but the 3DS required special cables and programs and registered an account for the program and the program didn't even capture or record right(no on screen recording)
                    Basically katsu is shit and the ONLY, the absolute ONLY reason why anyone would buy from him is the XL size. If you have an imported japanese 3DS, loopy can install a board on that

                    [–]mew2king 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Zero and gimr and several other people who's name I don't remember had problems with them but not as bad as shutting off completely and never turning back on, let alone twice.

                    [–]SXcalibur 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Nah. He reps Loopy on his stream (presumably because of issues with Katsu), but everything I've seen/heard says he uses Katsu's equipment (I've seen this before everything went down today, it's not being pulled out of thin air).

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                      [–]oFlint 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      I'm not sure if asking for 8 up front was the best plan...

                      [–]ShadowthePast 121 ポイント122 ポイント  (26子コメント)

                      What you posted before was libel, Jason. You intentionally left out vital information of your interaction with them in order to paint them in a negative light.

                      [–]donpianta 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Because of this libel they can sue you.

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                        [–]GruxKing 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        So I decided to go with plan B, which is tell all the smashers about their bad service

                        For 2 reasons 1) so other smashers don't buy into this scam (to help other smashers) 2) revenge (they are screwing me and don't care, so now I will screw them over back)

                        since they wasted all my time and my money

                        I'm not letting that slide for free

                        if you don't agree with me I'm sorry

                        but this is how I think of things and in my mind this is completely fair.

                        So even in my mind, right now, although I did lose 430 dollars in addition to 2 weeks of very important stream time (in the most important 2 weeks), I am glad people can know of their horrible service to stop others from buying their products.

                        I'm going to ignore the whole extortion thing for a moment to say that there is nothing about this that is a cogent or mature thought.

                        "But this is how I think of things and in my mind this is completely fair" Dude you're in your 20s, certainly you've realized by now that life isn't fair right? You can't stick your fingers in your ears and then be surprised when the world doesn't abide by your concept of fairness. This isn't some anime dude, You don't get to get revenge here. You're not entitled to anything. You don't get to blame them for the loss of potential profits, you haven't paid any money in any kind of loss-prevention-insurance!

                        And just to add to how bad of a play this was, not only did you think these thoughts but you broadcasted them online for all of the world to see. That is not the move to make here. You can't simply openly talk about getting revenge against a business on an online forum KatsuKitty obviously isn't Halliburton, you're not gonna get dragged away in the night, but you've made yourself incredibly legally vulnerable here. How have you avoided real life for this long?

                        Oh and let's not get into "well PBNJ said I could get 7 3DS's so I might as well ask" OR get into "Well I should tell the community that the number was PBnJs, that'll remove my culpability".

                        "I didn't even think about it as in it didn't cross my mind. "
                        That's not a valid excuse! When you go on a smear campaign you don't get to blame the withholding of information on a foggy memory. The burden of truth is on you.

                        This is a new low.

                        [–]Diablos_Boobs 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I like you but...

                        I sincerely hope you realize how stupid you look right now.

                        [–]pmtransthrowaway 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        You are so incredibly in the wrong here. Sure, ask for a repair, but SEVEN EXTRA 3DS UNITS? Holy shit dude. They didn't steal this assumed revenue from you. No one owes you anything just because you're good at a video game. And you didn't think to mention how ridiculous your demands were when trying to ride the m2k circle jerk? I can't even imagine how you thought this was the right way to go about this.

                        [–]BombFuse 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        THIS. How are they responsible for potential money you could make? Their job is to make a working product. The most you can do is ask for a repair/small compensation imo.

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                          [–]sidestep_knockout 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yah, their service and products might be shitty, but you shouldn't have left that part out in your post, or even asked for that number of DSes. IMO.

                          Both of you were burned from this.

                          Edit: Also, the worst thing about this is that you were trying to hold a bad review if you got your ridiculous compesation.

                          [–]Smished 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          just to say, PB+J is not someone qualified to talk about these issues, and it seems like you might be open to legal action here as a result of your actions, which verge on attempted extortion. this isn't a 'what's fair' situation, there are real-world channels to deal with these things, you can't hold them to ransom with the threat of ruining their business.

                          as it is you've probably not helped your reputation here, and shouldn't take what PB+J says too seriously on these matters, he's not a lawyer or anything close, as this shows. buying a faulty product does not instantly entitle you to compensation either, just to be clear.

                          [–]ironprominent 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          From a comment from M2k in the thread:

                          What exactly happened is that I told them that they screwed me over twice with bad products and I lost 2 weeks of time I Could have been streaming and they had two choices they could either give compensation or I would let people know about their poor service.

                          That's not something verging on extortion, that IS extortion.

                          [–]tannerrw1 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          Yeah, are you fucking joking....8?!?!? So basically, give me 8 3dses because I am blaming your equipment for everything instead of having backups on backups as a professional or I'll give you a bad review and use my name to destroy your product. Wow, class act.

                          [–]BananaProne 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          There's a reason why he wasn't invited to the Sm4sh invitational at E3. Seems like Nintendo made the right decision in the end.

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                            [–]smasherdasher 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (42子コメント)

                            I told Katsukity that they screwed me over pretty badly, and they needed to give me compensation,

                            I asked pbnj what kind of compensation was fair for the 2 important weeks I lost,

                            this is the problem, they owe you nothing for compensation. you lost two weeks of what? work? get a job. what makes you more special compared to any other customer? nothing. you're a customer, you act like you have some celebrity complex and it shows. nobody owes you anything, you received broken units, things happen. You think you could of pulled this with Samsung for phones? Give me 8 phones or I talk smack about you guys?

                            Get over yourself dude

                            [–]TDWP_FTW 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                            Exactly. Obviously they owe him a repaired capture card/3DS, because the one he received was faulty, but anything more is just ridiculous, especially the amount he wanted.

                            Just because he planned to make money with the product, doesn't mean they owe him that potential money. That's not how things work.

                            [–]smasherdasher 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            exactly. it doesn't matter what issues he had, he can't ask for 4x what he paid for

                            "hey these two samsung phones don't work, send me 8 more or else"

                            [–]fribbers 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Exactly. This is heresy, my friend!

                            [–]Strung_Out_Advocate 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            For whatever it's worth, they would probably receive immeasurable amounts of free advertising from him had he successfully used their product. I wouldn't say he's "just" another consumer.

                            Not saying he's right, but they should have been able to work something out.

                            [–]smasherdasher 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            it could of been a good relationship, but honestly by the sounds of some reviews, it was questionable work to begin with. it doesn't sound like this guy puts quality work into what he does.

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                              [–]SaltAndTrombe 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              But they still owe him the repaired card+3ds, regardless of any other claims.

                              [–]F00LY 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Just because he planned to make money with the product, doesn't mean they owe him that potential money. That's not how things work.

                              I feel bad for Jason though. Sure, demanding 7 free DS's is asinine, but so was Katsu's response. If I went to Walmart and bought a broken item, and came back same day and showed them the product was faulty and asked for a refund + 7 free items, they'd laugh at me.

                              They'd laugh at me and then they'd refund my money.

                              Sure Jason's request was asinine, but so was Katsu's response. Part of being a good business is good customer service handling poorly communicating customers.

                              [–]LeagueOfVideo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              They don't legally have to give him anything. But if he's unhappy then there's no reason why he can't express his unsatisfaction.

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                                [–]ralster27 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                I'd be so pissed I'd I were PBNJ right now.

                                [–]NonaSuomi282 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Right? He gets cornered, called, out, and cops to doing exactly what KK says, then throws the PBNJ right under the bus with "but it's only because this guy told me to!"

                                With friends like that...

                                [–]pidgey77 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I'm sorry M2K but you need to realize how stupid your demands are considering the situation. I get that you lost about 2k in makings but that's the same thing as me being mad that I was going to win a marathon and the Tennis Shoes I used were faulty. I myself should have been more careful and, yes, I should make the company responsible. But not by charging them my damn winnings, just replace my shoes.

                                [–]pewpewu 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Gonna just put this out here and say that revenge is probably a terrible idea. This post is straight cancer

                                [–]chrisall76 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Good that you said something, think the part about asking for 8 wasn't exactly the best idea though.

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                                    [–]DarkLordShrek 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                    Here's extra information left out.

                                    "We have all the evidence in our email conversation.

                                    This is what he said: "I want you to send me MULTIPLE 3DSes now. I want 8 DSes and a refund One of them should be a Japanese 3DS Another should be 7 USA 3DS's they all need to work"

                                    We could only confirm one order history from this customer, so we asked other order numbers. He refused to tell us the other order numbers, and spread negative reviews on other site that cast aspersions on our business. We are cooperating fully with PayPal and its guidelines, and his claims that we are refusing to send a replacement (8 replacements in total) is libel, as he is the sole reason the replacement process cannot go forward.

                                    We sent messages to the customer and will replace his broken 3DS if he returns. No response. We are still willing to replace it if he returns."

                                    [–]TheMantyke 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                    I came here to post this very same information, seems I was beaten to the punch. Here's a screencap of their facebook page at least: http://puu.sh/bMA03/7d0a674df4.png

                                    Edit: It looks like the post has been deleted so now all we have are images of the facebook page when the message was up.

                                    [–]BillNyez 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                    What is the proof though, them saying they have email conversations?

                                    [–]TheMantyke 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    I brought this to attention as their counter claim, not as any sort of proof.

                                    [–]BillNyez 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Sorry man, I was looking for a guy somewhere in the thread that said it proves m2k is bad. I couldn't find him though and you linked the same thing so I went off of your comment.

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                                        [–]ShadowthePast 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        M2k was speaking in Shofu's stream a bit ago and did say that he demanded 7-8 3DS's, and that other people (specifically PB&J) suggested that demand to him.

                                        [–]kiddydong 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        PB&J told him to ask for 8 3DS's? What the fuck

                                        [–]ismaelvera 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        I feel used....

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                                          [–]crusf 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          cue Mexican Soap Opera suspense fanfare

                                          [–]sidestep_knockout 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          dramatic_mexican.gif

                                          [–]Bemy_Gunshot 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          LOL where the fuck is that from? I'm from Mexico and I've never seen that before xD

                                          [–]sidestep_knockout 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          dunno, just googled mexican soap opera gif, and it was there. xD

                                          [–]tigerclawhg 138 ポイント139 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          The plot thickens

                                          [–]Reesch 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          I thicken ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                                          This is getting juicy.

                                          [–]Meno_Self 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Teddie thickens too

                                          [–]ColtEastwood 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Expand

                                          [–]FingerStripes 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          /u/mew2king, you should take a screen shot of your email messages and post them. That should settle things.

                                          [–]Homeless_Hobo 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          So Mew2king was overreacting again?

                                          [–]DrDongStrong 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Smash Drama strikes again

                                          [–]NoMudkip 94 ポイント95 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                          I don't see why he'd lie about this and then lose hundreds of dollars in possible profits that he could have made streaming.

                                          [–]ChezMere 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Something something never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence

                                          [–]NonaSuomi282 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                          Yeah, this doesn't add up. I'm inclined to not take KK's word for it, if only because how utterly absurd that alleged request is.

                                          [–]Kirbychwan 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          M2K has already admitted to it.

                                          [–]OppaWumboStyle 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          Let's just see what mew2king has to say

                                          [–]ironprominent 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          He says he did it.

                                          [–]chocopuppet 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Goddammit, mew2king.

                                          [–]NonaSuomi282 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Agreed.

                                          [–]pmtransthrowaway 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          He admitted that KK is telling the truth.

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                                            [–]SamuraiPanda 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Ehhh while neither side has proof here, I actually wouldn't put it past Jason to do this. He probably calculated the estimated amount of money lost from time he didn't have the capture card, then demanded the equivalent amount of capture cards to recoup his money. And he probably did a poor job of explaining why he demanded 7 cards if he explained it at all.

                                            Sounds like something he'd do.

                                            [–]ChaosSaberX 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            I get they fucked up and sent a faulty 3DS Capture system but if you want a refund you don't go demanding for 8 3DSes and a refund. -__- That's gonna get you nowhere and instead you seem like a complete jerk.

                                            [–]DrDongStrong 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                            I'd buy it. M2K doesn't strike me as the most cooperative person. Guess I can't talk though, don't know the guy. And even then this company may be full of shit. Edit: lol apparently m2k did in fact feel entitled to all that shit because customer service. Jesus.

                                            [–]zipzo6 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            One might say that...

                                            *Sunglasses

                                            Mewtwo is..."out" of the game.

                                            No?

                                            Sorry I had to.

                                            [–]Spectrabox 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            Keep it mind it is M2K's word vs Katsu's word, I don't think either side has any sort of proof yet.

                                            [–]BillNyez 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            What there is proof of though currently is that M2K was sent broken capture cards twice by Katsu, so he seems like the person to side with currently.

                                            [–]Spectrabox 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            True, I was more referring to whether or not he requested 7 or not though.

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                                              [–]r4wrFox 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              They might have shit customer service, but good PR.

                                              [–]DarkLordShrek 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                              7.

                                              Fucking.

                                              Capture.

                                              Cards.

                                              Come on M2K, did you really leave that out on purpose?

                                              [–]KillerIsJed 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              It is pretty entitled and naive to demand them as some kind of payment for a faulty piece of equipment, based off of "someone else did well and I could have done well."

                                              No one owes you anything except a working device.

                                              [–]NonaSuomi282 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                              As absurd as that is, are you really gonna take KK's word on this? I don't think M2K is that unreasonable, and if anything this looks like a desperate attempt at PR misdirection.

                                              [–]SgvSth 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              But, it does look like M2K has admitted to that fact of the story. This incident seems to be have a second layer to it.

                                              [–]NonaSuomi282 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              Huh, well that's certainly something. I could maybe understand one or two, or demanding a free-shipping free-fix, but seven would be crossing the line by far. How much are these things going for anyhow?

                                              [–]SgvSth 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Depends on if you just want the Capture Card or a CC+Handheld. Here is the list for just the 3DS, though to sum it up: 3DS+CC(Both US) is $431; 3DS+CC(Both EU) is $419; 3DS+CC(Both JP) is $353; CC(JP) is $248.

                                              [–]Slade712 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                              I couldn't see someone lying about that. I could see someone leaving that part out, though. I'm on KK's side here.

                                              [–]sidestep_knockout 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                              In that case they need to provide proof to clean their name. I don't believe them for a second.

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                                                [–]HajimeNoLuffy 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                No one mentioned 7 cards when this was going down in stream last night.

                                                [–]Sages 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                /u/RubberYen if you're going to post a facebook Screencap, make sure you do it properly.

                                                Here is her Facebook Page with the comment in question. She directly replied to the reddit comment.

                                                When I saw the image of a reply and no context with proof of the reply, I had to investigate myself.

                                                Katsukity is claiming /u/mew2king demanded 7 additional units, this is certainly an extraneous claim. Of course it's her word against his, and vice-versa. I wouldn't automatically assume either side is guilty until more evidence comes up.

                                                Edit: Update, she just posted this. About 20min ago 6:50pm ET. Looks like she deleted that comment. I refreshed the page, and it's gone.

                                                Edit2: mew2king responds here. He did ask for 7 more 3DS based on subscription loss and estimations.

                                                [–]Gold_Jacobson 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Everything changed after the incident.

                                                [–]ShadowthePast 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                To anyone surprised by M2k pulling this

                                                [–]sWiTcH-e-RoO 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I want to know why M2K and PBnJ thought it was right to ask for such an amount of systems just because they got a couple of faulty ones.

                                                M2K missing out on streaming isn't Katsu's problems in the least, you can't try to get back at them or make absurd demands over something that doesn't even concern them. Their only purpose in the transaction is to provide the capture board, which are the faulty items in question here. Everything outside of that matter isn't their business, I really don't see why he's adding his tantrum about him not making money off of playing a video game a couple of weeks earlier and tying this to the problem with Katsu and their capture boards. M2K's income isn't their damn responsibility.

                                                It would be reasonable if they asked for a refund or a fix on the items when they weren't damaged by the customers in any way (from what we know), but bitching about the money you've been missing out on and trying to blow off that steam on Katsu when it's not even their fault or concern, then making insane demands is just plain stupid really. It doesn't help that he keeps saying that he didn't even know what to ask for, so he had to ask PBnJ for his input. Like, seriously? You might as well just not have made any type of demands, tried cooling off, and then contacted them about it. He's clearly being hell bent on pissy revenge over this and it's no surprise it's not getting him anywhere.

                                                Katsu's customer service might not seem to be the best, but M2K isn't being very reasonable here either, stop getting unrelated things into this subject and think about how this issue could've been handled properly, it might just come bite you in the ass.

                                                [–]Irish33 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                This is why 1. you never enlist a personal army 2. why you don't immediately believe people you don't personally know in real life

                                                [–]Bombkirby 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Ah that's the term. "Personal army." I've seen a lot of popular people on like Facebook, DeviantArt, and etc tell all of their followers to rally together for X reason and I always urge against it since it usually just makes things worse.

                                                [–]byperbam 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                fucking mew2king

                                                [–]KillerIsJed 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I'll say here what I said on the original thread about KatsuKity.

                                                As a streamer who has two 3DSXL from Katsu Kity let me provide my experience.

                                                I sent my American 3DSXL over, asked to have the IR port maintained (cost a lil more) and they were very helpful and talked on e-mail. I sent it and got it back, ready to go in 6 days total turn time. Pretty impressive.

                                                I then ordered a Japanese 3DS, but it came with the IR port missing for the capture device. So I emailed them, they paid for return shipping and quickly got me another replacement and it has worked fine every since. They have been very responsive in e-mail and very helpful, even helping me get a limited edition orange 3DSLL that was only available in Japan.

                                                I'm not sure why you are having issues, or what the "bad equipment" you've gotten is, but I've had nothing but good experiences with KatsuKity.

                                                Also retailers don't owe anyone anything for something breaking. HP doesn't owe you homework if your laptop dies, Katsukity doesn't owe you extra consoles.

                                                [–]fireb0rnMC 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                Regardless of whether M2K demanded additional monetary reparation or capture cards, katsukity needs to address the fact that M2K does not even have a single working 3DS with a capture card, which he paid for two months ago and has apparently already sent in for repair once.

                                                It is possible that M2K made an unreasonable request, but this does not excuse katsukity's poor service. In the other thread, GimR stated that katsukity has demanded that he personally shell out money for repairs (and almost certainly shipping as well) because of a faulty installation. From what I have read, it is pretty clear that katsukity's services are inconsistent and often abysmal.

                                                Sources: http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2haztu/do_not_buy_anything_from_katsukity/ckrls99 http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2haztu/do_not_buy_anything_from_katsukity/ckr0mht http://3dscapture.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1221

                                                [–]TheOthin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                Indeed. It's believable that he'd make a request like that, but only as compensation for already-bad customer service.

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                                                  [–]envyxd 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  Reading this stuff kind of makes me sad. You guys care too much about these gamers. This guy is crying about subscribers... really? Who gives a shit? 65 subscribers shouldn't mean shit to you if you're one of the best smash players.

                                                  I commend his skills, but his attitude makes him sound like a moron.

                                                  [–]TerminalMontage 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Yeah, this is the silliest kind of drama.

                                                  [–]FrankGoldman 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  they are talking about it on shofus stream now. http://www.twitch.tv/shofu

                                                  [–]Jarfurfe 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  In ZeRo Stream too

                                                  [–]Keitaro123 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Gotta think a little more before you post, M2K.

                                                  [–]Keitaro123 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Once again, people should buy from Loopy instead. He lives in the US and does free repairs for a year. I didn't even have to pay return shipping and I got my 3DS sent, repaired, and sent back within 2 days.

                                                  Loopy for life. Hope he actually makes the GC controller to 3DS mod public soon.

                                                  Here's his website btw: www.3dscapture.com

                                                  Even if M2K did ask for all those 3DSes, Katsukitty's capture cards are still questionably made with the possibility of breaking and you get charged money to have it repaired. That's a lot of money for repair too.

                                                  [–]zipzo6 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                  This is rather absurd.

                                                  First of all let me say that I know these folks personally quite well as I stated in the original topic, I'm a frequent local customer there as they are my main source for all stream outfits I need.

                                                  One thing I can tell you with absolute confidence is they are not liars. They don't even have any reason to lie. In fact, to accuse them of lying is just laughable. They work in a cramped office all day modifying consoles for other folks needs all around he world, and you think M2k is the single exception to their service expectation?

                                                  These are incredibly nice people I would say I'm lucky to be able to frequent locally, and have enjoyed multiple transactions with, and I will be the first one to stand-up on KK's side here and remind everyone that this isn't some shady company in an alleyway, these are generous upstanding folks that actually have a passion for what they're doing, yes that's right, they love what they do. A simple affinity for tinkering. They allow you try everything out before you even buy, you can speak to them as they are working even, or even observe.

                                                  I respect M2k and I believe it's perfectly possible that he received a system that plain didn't work, as internal modding can be risky, but personally their work has never failed me and let me be the one to correct all of you in assuming that these people mean to be anything shady or unfair. I think it's possible M2K raged due to his frustration and made unreasonable demands, and I would take an educated guess in that he's trying to cheese several extra capture units for friends or fellow competitive player acquaintances.

                                                  [–]RubberYen[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                  Is their office around akihabara? If so I'd actually would like to meet them in person (not about this).

                                                  [–]zipzo6 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                  Yes, they are in Akiba.

                                                  [–]HierophantG 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                  They released faulty capture cards and have the gumption to ask people to pay the repair fee when it breaks do to there own trashy job at making it. They aren't angels working with a passion.

                                                  [–]zipzo6 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                  It's very possible that some of the cards fail. I've opened up a brand new 3DS right out of the Nintendo box to have it not even turn on or charge. In machinery and engineering, stuff like that is unavoidable occasionally. From what I see they are fine with replacing the DS (not on M2Ks dime), but they also state in their terms that they do not pay for shipping, and they're not the ones that get your shipping money. That is a risk you take for a service halfway across the world from you.

                                                  If you'd like I can go directly to their office after work and have a conversation with him about this specific issue, and I would place bets on all corners that it won't make the situation look any prettier for M2k.

                                                  [–]HierophantG 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  If you'd like I can go directly to their office after work and have a conversation with him about this specific issue, and I would place bets on all corners that it won't make the situation look any prettier for M2k.

                                                  Woah. I'm not sure if you meant to word it that way. But, that sounds like it came right out of some mafia movie. Like a Joe Pesci line or something. Just imagine Joe Pesci with a big dumb gamecube controller saying that. Ain't that a real gag and a half. Anyways, what did you mean by that last part? About the conversation thing? I didn't really catch your meaning.

                                                  [–]zipzo6 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  I live in Japan. I can meet with the folks at Katsukity face to face, I visit their office all the time for my own streaming needs.

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                                                      [–]Slade712 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (39子コメント)

                                                      I think I'm one of the few, but I really don't like M2K.

                                                      [–]Kazuja 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                      I don't really like him either, but it would seem weird to me that he would sabotage his own capability to stream, considering he gets money for it and subs and stuffs.

                                                      On the other hand, what would the company gain out of acting stupid towards some pro player who, of course, will go around tell everybody if they do a shit service, while at the same time receiving fairly little complaints from other sources.

                                                      The whole story is just a little strange. Don't really know who's lying here.

                                                      [–]hardgeeklife 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      It's possible that they didn't know per se about his notoriety when they were corresponding to him.

                                                      [–]Kazuja 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      I was about to edit that in when I thought about the possibility that they might not know him, but then again it still wouldn't really make sense for them to lie about some kind of ridiculous-sounding offer, especially after the dude established himself to have his own small fanclub to work with. Speaking of, why would they make up such an unbelievable-sounding offer instead of one that sounds like a reasonable unreasonable demand? What would they gain out of this?

                                                      No side really benefits from this whole situation, and lying about the 7 card-demand wouldn't really improve things, either. Who is lying, for what reason? Is it merely a misunderstanding?

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                                                        [–]TheKamenWriter 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                        Mew2king isn't someone you like. He's just someone you have to respect for what he does. He has one job: Play smash like the soviet-era battle cyborg, and he delivers. Everything else is beside the point.

                                                        [–]Clayton_11 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                        Yeah I respect him as a player but if he wants to succeed he needs to be likable, remember what a huge hit mango took after being a dick to hbox? Remember how popular hbox became? I respect mango too but he refuses to acknowledge that clearly hbox is an amazing player (especially lately) You make money off of subs,sponcers and tournament wins. If you aren't popular it's harder to get all 3 of those.

                                                        [–]DaSuperBoss 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        especially lately

                                                        mango has not only hugged hbox but im 80% sure he complimented him after evo as well

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                                                          [–]TheSilentEskimo 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                          Finally somebody who feels the same way. I get he's good, but he as a person seems a little bit not so great.

                                                          [–]Ryan_22 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                          I have mixed feelings. I met him briefly and he seemed really friendly towards everyone, was willing to play friendlies with people (even myself when I had only been playing for a month or two), and respectfully explained anything you asked him about the game. Seemed like a nice guy.

                                                          Then you also hear all those crazy stories....

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                                                            [–]ZGiSH 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            To me it's not M2K himself that I don't like (though i'm not much of a fan either) but the way everyone treats him here on the subreddit. It's like everyone considers him to be a 12 year old, unable to resolve his own problems. So people put on kiddie gloves and handle responses with meticulous effort as to not offend some smash god.

                                                            [–]rescgaming 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            What? He submitted a post that got a shit ton of replies and upboats, without any evidence or even telling the entire course of events. People treat him like a kid because he thinks like a kid, "I deserve 8 ds's because you sent me faulty hardware!".

                                                            [–]ZGiSH 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I thought that's what I said. People need to stop giving him so much unwarranted support when he's a grown ass man.

                                                            [–]Irish33 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                            the face of competitive smash bros

                                                            [–]Anvillain 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            D1!

                                                            [–]Johnny_Gossamer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            Yo that's a valley forge sweatshirt? I thought he was from New Jersey

                                                            [–]the_best_noob 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Not only that, but i just noticed it was a wrestling sweatshirt too.

                                                            M2K secret WWE. (Not that WWE is really wrestling)

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                                                              [–]number90901 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              I don't know enough about him to tell, but its possible he just has trouble taking social cues

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                                                                [–]HajimeNoLuffy 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                So, I commented on the post and got this reply. Take it how you will.

                                                                [–]SXcalibur 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Then why don't they post a screenshot of the email?

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                                                                  [–]Cheripo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                  What would he even do with seven cards, anyway?

                                                                  [–]Gold_Jacobson 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Raffle them or something. Get subscribers.

                                                                  I have no clue.

                                                                  [–]ShadowthePast 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  He's deeming it as "compensation" for not being able to stream for 2 weeks and losing subscribers/potential subscribers.

                                                                  [–]ccbuddyrider 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  When did this sub turn into TMZ with smash "celebrities."

                                                                  [–]cantsingh 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  wait, he wanted a replacement and then 7 more? paging /u/mew2king..

                                                                  [–]DapperSandwich 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  You cannot page him, as he does not have Reddit Gold.

                                                                  [–]pidgey77 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Does M2K realizes this is the same as blaming Nintendo if smash 4 is a bad tournament game? AND charges them 3+ years of potential salaries and tournament winnings? Shouldn't he have tested this before hand? Sigh

                                                                  [–]UberAndrew 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Man, I come here to talk about Smash, not about someone who experienced poor customer service.

                                                                  [–]OneBadassMoFucker 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Well then It's like someone who gets upset over subscribers is worried about attention or something.

                                                                  [–]oraclefish 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Drama drama drama drama drama

                                                                  In all seriousness, though, the demand was a bit outrageous. However, Katsu shouldn't have shipped faulty hardware...

                                                                  [–]Malkoir 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  lol m2k

                                                                  [–]Naota650 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  And m2k wonders why no one takes him seriously.

                                                                  How is your 2 weeks time worth 7 3dses. Get your head out of your ass and grow up M2k. You ain't special.

                                                                  [–]TagProMaster 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  I don't think people should be taking sides right now, as a lot of people are doing. There's no proof from either side as of yet and either one can be wrong, or both can be misunderstood. seriously, let the situation develop for a little bit.

                                                                  [–]confessionalEspurr 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  Fishy as fuck.

                                                                  I'm not a huge fan of M2K but I've never heard of an incident where he would do something like ask for 7 capture cards.

                                                                  [–]ratchetfella 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  In case it gets lost in the confusion: Here's M2K's response.

                                                                  EDIT: Friendly reminder not to downvote M2K (or anyone else) because you disagree with him. Use your words.

                                                                  [–]The_M4G 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Wow... So uh, verdict. Katsu's service is horse shit and m2k is from another planet

                                                                  [–]DaSuperBoss 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  How is Katsu Kittys post related to m2ks claims? He's not mentioned by name anywhere in the facebook posts.

                                                                  Katsu's "proof" is literally just text. Not a screenshot, text.

                                                                  Assuming (as everyone else is) that Katsu is referring to m2k, neither side has any proof to back up their claims. Why would you pick a side in this argument? Because you like/dislike m2k? What the hell?

                                                                  EDIT: apparently mewtwoking DID ask for 7 extra (lmao) capture cards. uhh, I can understand the reasoning behind that but I dont think he should have because hes not really entitled to anything from katsu except a refund for what he payed for.

                                                                  though from what I understand katsu is also a prick about things like this, though thats kind of unrelated.

                                                                  [–]ZoroarkPKMN 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                  God I feel Katsu is telling the truth. I don't know why they would lie, they are a service so they are inclined to tell the truth and be honest. Anyone see that Verizon phone call thing? For anyone who hasn't, a guy called Verizon to cancel his involvement, due to him moving to another company. The operator refused to accept the guy canceling, and to be honest that's good employment.

                                                                  [–]MrSirSteven 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Oh dam, /u/mew2king

                                                                  [–]Dark_Clark 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  This is just really immature. I'm sorry. A grown man asking for 7 DSs? Come on man. Grow up.

                                                                  [–]chocolatesandwiches -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                  Why are people believing this? Why would M2K ask for 7 3DSes?

                                                                  [–]bunnymeninc 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  Im not 100% on board the KK train yet, but here is why I think someone would do that. M2K lost quite a bit of money from this whole deal, he wants KK to cover those costs by having them give him more cards. He could use those cards in a giveaway or something and get more subs.

                                                                  Again, this is all speculation and stuff and I didn't pick a side. Im just giving a reason why someone would want to do this.

                                                                  [–]mew2king 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  That was actually 100% my plan.

                                                                  [–]bunnymeninc 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  I'm a fuckin wizard

                                                                  [–]zabimaru1000 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  You have read Mew2King better than any person that has tried to read him in a match.

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