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University of Chicago Gets Its Own 'Rapist List'

University of Chicago Gets Its Own 'Rapist List'SExpand
In May, Columbia University students were up in arms after a list of alleged rapists attending the college kept popping up on the walls of a campus bathroom. It appears that now, a similar (if slightly more technologically advanced) tactic is being taken at the University of Chicago.
Multiple UChicago students emailed Jezebel about a now-defunct Tumblr called The Hyde Park List (the University is located in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago) which seems to have been taken down as quickly as it started (the first post looks like it was put up this weekend, but by Sunday evening, the Tumblr was gone). According to an email sent from concerneduchicagostudents@gmail.com to Jezebel, the Tumblr "lists students who have sexually harassed and/or sexually assaulted peers," though an email sent to the address made available on the Tumblr requesting comment has not received a response.
First years just arrived on campus for Orientation Week, though the school year has not yet officially begun. But flyers about the Tumblr are still circulating. Those flyers list the names of six current and former UChicago students; all appear to be men and do/did go to the college. After each name, the person is given a color – "Code Orange" or "Code Red."
University of Chicago Gets Its Own 'Rapist List'SExpand
According to a cached version of the Tumblr, it was started by a group of "Concerned Citizens" who are "Keeping the community safe—since the University won't." The names listed on the Tumblr don't appear to have any further information attached to them than the accused's name, class year, "Code Orange" or "Code Red," though at least one includes this message: "Note: Often at fraternity parties."
OBJECTIVE: Keeping the Hyde Park community safe from people known to commit varying levels of gender-based violence—since the University won't.
WE ARE: Concerned citizens.
COLOR-CODING: Two-tiered system. Red is for the most severe offenders, followed by orange.
SUBMISSIONS: Provide a name (current student or otherwise). Give context to help in color-coding or flesh out things we've heard elsewhere.
As previously reported, the University of Chicago is one of dozens of colleges around the country currently being investigated for its handling of sexual assault cases. In a press release put out Friday, the college praised the Obama Administration's new "It's On Us" campaign. Newly appointed Dean of Students Michelle Rasmussen, who was hired specifically to focus on this issue, emphasized that the University is committed tackling sexual assault appropriately:
Though most University of Chicago students are still on summer break, Rasmussen said that student government leaders and others already have expressed enthusiasm for the campaign, and she expects to see activity grow as students return to campus in coming weeks.
"Sexual violence concerns us all deeply, and the University has fostered a particular commitment to addressing sexual misconduct and unlawful harassment and discrimination—that is essential to sustaining an academic community in which all can participate freely and fully," Rasmussen said.
We've emailed the University for comment about the Tumblr/flyer and will update this post when/if we receive a response.
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Adultosaur started this thread
9/22/14 2:05pm Today 2:05pm
Hint: NOT FUCKIN THIS
If code red is rape then what is code orange? Not "real" rape?
Maybe they were caught starring for too long? Or maybe there the guys who date around too much?
This is wrong, obviously, but the tiered system just fucks it up so much more.
R2D2ESQ started this thread
9/22/14 2:06pm Today 2:06pm
Some of them are (in red). The others (in orange) are just on the same list as the accused rapists. What did they do to share space on the list with the accused rapists? And what sort of vetting was done by the people who made the list to ensure the veracity of the whole thing?
Not to mention that without any specifics it's impossible for anyone on the list who is innocent (admittedly unlikely) to defend themselves against the claim. I don't think it's crazy that this doesn't sit well for me.
First of all, nobody is being arrested, nor are they likely to given what usually happens in sexual assault cases.
Second, this list is meant as a warning to women on campus so that they can steer clear of these guys. If a guy has done something that—maybe while it's not as "bad" as full-on rape but is assault or even harassment—puts them on a list like this then at the very least people should be cautious of him.
Third, no one really gives a shit what "sits well with you." Call me when you are in a position to be in fear of being assaulted like this and then we can have a nice chat. Until then, adieu Felicia.
Thanks for the insulting and dismissive sign off. I thought we were having a completely civilized exchange about something that we both agree is a problem but where we disagree about appropriate ways to address that problem. I would like to see these accusations aggressively investigated and, if appropriate, prosecuted.
But apparently I'm an asshole for offering my opinion about fairness. My bad, I guess.
Wigwag started this thread
9/22/14 2:16pm Today 2:16pm
Some form of this needs to happen. I'm sorry about the chance for wrecking a guy's reputation, but there has to be a way to get this information out there. A lot of rapists are serial rapists.
I was pinned down and almost raped by a guy "friend" in college (he stopped short when I started crying). When I mentioned to to a girlfriend a few days later how disturbing his behavior was, she said, "He did the same thing to me, only he didn't stop." I started telling my friends who knew him, and was astounded at the number of women he had raped ("He did that to my roommate." "He did that to one of the girls in my sorority." "He did that to me.") But no one else mentioned it until I brought it up, and I was probably only "brave" enough to mention it because he had stopped short of actual penetration. This guy was well liked, and had a great reputation as being a funny and easygoing person. A warning about him needed to be on bulletin boards all over campus, but it wasn't.
(Edit: There also needs to be a list for teachers, because I also heard from multiple people who didn't know each other about their academic careers being threatened by a specific professor who was hitting on them)
Holy shit :-(( Did anyone call the cops on this dude in the end?? Fucking creep! It makes it 10 times creepier that you mention that he was funny, easygoing and well-liked, so scary.
The Finger of God started this thread
9/22/14 2:12pm Today 2:12pm
I know this isn't what I was supposed to get from this article, but my main take away was "U Chicago still hasn't started school and I'm a third of the way through the semester"
Clestesti started this thread
9/22/14 2:19pm Today 2:19pm
In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you started this thread
9/22/14 2:14pm Today 2:14pm
This could go two ways:
1. The names are real and they admit to their atrocities. This is how this will turn out (99%)
2. The worst case scenario (1% chance): Some pundit who wants publicity gets hold of this and compares it to the Salem Witch Hunts. THIS WOULD BE WORST RESULT. Then the bros will give each other circle jerks as WASPs will side with the Bros and they will not get convicted because of the "he's a good kid" fallacy.
There's a very high chance the names are real; do you really think there's any chance the guys will admit it?
If they don't want to go full retard, than yes, the bros will admit their wrongdoings.
Is there some event in the history of ever that makes you think this will happen?
Faethe started this thread
9/22/14 2:12pm Today 2:12pm
That's the thing—these people put in charge of squashing sexual assault for their respective universities keep saying they care, it's not a problem, we're doing the best we can, blahblahblah—I DON'T BELIEVE YOU.
dizzzave started this thread
9/22/14 2:36pm Today 2:36pm
Alright Katie riddle me this.
If publishing a list of (accused) rapists is OK, why are the names not shown here? If doxxing rapists is a good thing, why the hesitation?
Is it because publishing this stuff without verifying validity opens you to defamation claims?
Kanomi started this thread
9/22/14 3:00pm Today 3:00pm
Someone working at McDonald's who gets raped by her supervisor will probably get a better shot at justice than most college students. Why?
Because it is not McDonald's job to investigate rape, to internally hold hearings about a rape that happened in McDonald's restaurant, carefully weighing mitigating factors like the rapist's future career at McDonald's, or the impact on McDonald's next big game against Burger King, or worry about how many Ronald McDonald statues the rapist's parents have donated to Ronald McDonald House, or whatever.
So now victims are resorting to unsound vigilante tactics, out of desperation. Obviously these tactics are unsound because anyone can fake up some anonymous accusations. But the failure of universities has created vigilantism. You rarely see this in the local communities.
The actual criminal justice system, flawed as it is, has a functioning Sexual Predators database. It offers hope. You can look at maps of any city in the U.S. and locate horrible people, usually men, who have committed rape or child rape and other heinous crimes.
College administrators seem incapable of participating in the criminal justice system, they seem too busy splitting up the profits of their student loan scams. They have less credibility than McDonald's managers in this, because they have been given authority and privilege and used it to protect their institutions and brands. That's not right.
Campus police should not report to campus administrators but local law enforcement jurisdictions. Felony crimes are a police matter which should be responded to by patrol officers then followed up by a competent sex crimes unit equipped with rape kits. Cases with merit are then forwarded to local district attorneys, who will prosecute offenders.
I don't see this as crazy or radical, it seems to be how it works for everyone outside of college and the military.
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