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London council removes 'unacceptable' Stamford Hill posters telling women which side of the road to walk down (independent.co.uk)

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[–]DirtyChav 293 ポイント294 ポイント  (31子コメント)

Dear religious nutters, please fuck off, you backwards cunts.

[–]tea-drinker 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Were there not matching "Men please walk on this side" posters on the other side of the road?

[–]CharlieDanceySomerset 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is a good question to which we can guess the answer.

[–]blazemoreLeeds 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, but that doesn't write rabble-rousing headlines.

[–]StWdDevon -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both the Jews who put up the posters and the author of that article are separatist numpties, but he knows how to sell newspapers so it's perfectly justified...

[–]hoodie92Madchester -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

There's a law in Judaism where men and women who are unmarried or unrelated can't touch each other. So the men don't want to be on that side. It's about separation.

This is some kind of event so I'm guessing it was planned for the men to be on one side of the road and the women to be on the other.

[–]aer71Tyne and Wear 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe nobody was harmed. Or maybe a lot of women were reminded that some people still think they are unclean and immoral second class citizens, who should do exactly what men tell them to do.

Religion is, or should be, a completely personal set of beliefs. Religious laws carry no weight. You do not have the right to impose your religious views on ANYBODY, not even your husband, wife or children.

  • insert joke about automatic separation of sexes at school discos, for light relief *

[–]hoodie92Madchester 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're completely misunderstanding. This is not a case of men thinking they are better than women. It's just for Orthodox men and women they don't want to touch each other. This was just an attempt to make it easier during a parade, where neither of the two genders would have wanted to bump into each other accidentally.

[–]DerailedVagabond 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you have a voluntary organisation, you can most definitely have laws with weight that apply to those who choose membership. If they don't like it, they can leave.

People are slating this organisation as if secular Europe or America have no equivalent. Yet you have organisations like the scouts or the marines which completely exclude women altogether! And on the other side, there are countless organisations and events which market themselves as solely for women too. Not to mention single sex education, which people choose to pay for above free coed schools.. So all of you criticising another culture for doing things that your culture wholeheartedly embraces need to grow the fuck up. You live in a society absolutely no better than these "religious nutters".

[–]tea-drinker 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got the religious restriction from the article and that they were only supposed to be for the duration of a parade. That's fine. I'd be ok with similar things, e.g. please don't drink beer here while this Islamic parade is on or please don't sell burgers during this Buddhist parade.

My interest is for the faithful. Jewish women see the poster and walk on that side. Jewish men see the poster and, via a process of elimination, walk on the other side. Non-Jewish women see the poster and the parade and play along because it's a thing. Non-Jewish men see the poster and without knowing the context continues to walk among the women. Men get safely compartmentalised and don't violate any of their laws. Women have to keep their wits about them in case a man turns up in the crowd.

[–]hoodie92Madchester 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

OK fine but if instead of that, there was only a "men's" sign, would everyone still be making such a fuss about it? I doubt it.

[–]oldcat 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, because it's still segregation in a country that has a fundamental problem with that sort of thing. People are people.

[–]LovesWords 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The article is mistaken: it's in Yiddish, not Hebrew. (No, it's not a terribly interesting or important point, but I like accuracy.)

[–]ShadowOfTheWasp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

checks username, seems appropriate.

[–]hughkEuropean Union/Yorks 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

But in the Hebrew script. Yiddish is often written with latin letters as it is a germanic language.

[–]SubotanLancashire 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, Yiddish when written is written in the Hebrew script. Likewise Afrikaans, a Germanic language, was originally first written in the Arabic script.

[–]savardfaireSoufeest Lahndan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Likewise Afrikaans, a Germanic language, was originally first written in the Arabic script.

Not really. I know where you got this from, but it's a mutually intelligible language with Dutch and most of the Coloured and White speakers of the language wrote it with the usual Latin letters.

[–]SubotanLancashire -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a technicality and cool piece of trivia sure, but it makes my point - that it's a Germanic language doesn't stop it from being written in a non-Latin script.

[–]LovesWords 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not at all. Yiddish has always been written with Hebrew letters by those who speak it, despite its Germanic base.

[–]backtowriting[S] 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (35子コメント)

It seems that these signs were meant to be directed at Orthodox Jewish women only. Even so, what a stupid backwards ideology. Isn't it time we grew up?

[–]FireFingers1992Hertfordshire 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I agree it is backwards. But I don't think it was meant to be "all the time". If I'm reading the article right, the posters are for a procession of the Torah that it is occurring soon. The streets will be crowded and men and women aren't allowed to mix thus, this. Unfortunately the sign doesn't say this. It is more a balls up than oppression.

[–]vercian -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Like Muslims praying in different areas, same sex schools, single sex public toilets and single sex sports teams?

[–]montoya456France (I know, I know) 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

None of those, including public toilets, are public spaces.

[–]StWdDevon -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's it like in France atm? I've been hearing stories that Northern France is becoming a wonderful progressive example of the benefits of tolerance in the modern era whereas it's getting increasingly worse in the East and rural areas for minorities because of increasing support for religious separatists (although nationalism is dying which is good!).

[–]montoya456France (I know, I know) 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I live in a village in the Dordogne region. Life is quiet, happy, peaceful and blissful. No-one makes much money but they are generally content.

[–]StWdDevon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as people are happy, that's great! :)

[–]DerailedVagabond -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

stupid backwards ideology

I don't think there's a single group of humans on this earth who couldn't in some way be criticised for having some sort of stupid backwards ideology by someone else. Get off your high horse.

[–]Flabby-Nonsense 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

that doesn't mean we shouldn't criticise it when we see it.

[–]KarmaUK 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Surely, this is Britain and the only response expected would be to bloody mindedly walk on the side they don't want you on.

However, a poster put up all over saying 'oi Jews, stay on the left, will you?' would I imagine be rather unpopular, but make a point about how poor that is.

All religions need to start realising religious freedom means you can do what the hell you like, until you start interfering with other people's freedom from your religion.

Sorry Jews, you live in a world with women, you're just going to have to learn to share it.

[–]HypohamishStaffordshire 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (15子コメント)

These signs were meant to be aimed to Jewish attendees of the parade that took place (i.e. people who believe and follow these rules). They were accidentally left up after the parade - they're not meant for enforcing the rule upon common folk.

[–]KarmaUK 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (12子コメント)

However, some thought should have perhaps been put into making that clear, as they read like some kind of demand for all women to obey them, and even tho people can happily just ignore them, it's going to cause trouble.

Something like 'There is a Jewish holiday on the 17th, and as such it would be appreciated if ladies would keep to the right of the path, just between the hours of x to x.'

[–]ElanthiusLondon 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

'There is a Jewish holiday on the 17th, and as such it would be appreciated if ladies would keep to the right of the path, just between the hours of x to x.'

Surely even that is totally unacceptable. I don't get why people are pretending this is all a-OK just because it was only intended to apply during a street festival. If you arrange a party in the street you're just going to have to deal with the fact that all the normal people are going to walk wherever the fuck they want.

[–]heyzuessNorthumberland 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Then again it's just down to the shuttle wording. They're only asking women who follow the tora to obey these rules on that day.

It's really not much more ridiculous than the annual 'piss all your money into gifts your family never asked for' festival that gets celebrated under Christianity.

[–]ElanthiusLondon 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

OK, that's a different matter. If it said "Females members of the procession walk on this side" that would be another thing. Right now it looks like a guide to ALL women who are simply watching which is unacceptable no matter what event is occurring if its in a public place (and probably not acceptable in a private space either)

[–]arabic_gum 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, it was a mistake. We're there. Put down the pitchfork.

[–]Mr_Again 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It looks bad out of context but you can't really expect people to pedantically break down every detail. I think of it like a folk dance mc asking all the men on this side, all the women on this side please. In that context you'd be mad to take offense in the name of your rights. They're not at stake here!

[–]heyzuessNorthumberland 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why the posters were taken down. Read the article and then put your pitchfork down. The title was misleading.

[–]HypohamishStaffordshire -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

As I said in another comment, hindsight is 20/20. I believe next year they've been instructed just to put the signs up in Hebrew, ergo your average common folk won't take offence (though I'm sure someone will because they'll complain it's not in English and it's some sort of extremist message (looking at you, Daily Mail)).

[–]Tomazim 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most Jews can't read Hebrew.

[–]LovesWords 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But most chasidim speak Yiddish, which is the second language on the signs.

[–]cliffski 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

nobody, regardless what made-up deity their parents indoctrinated them into following, should ever be told that they cannot walk here or go there because of their gender. people who don't like that attitude should frankly bugger off to a religious theocracy where they can be as crazy as they like.

[–]HypohamishStaffordshire -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I'm not stepping in to defend them, but, it's hardly serious. This is literally just a part of the Jewish religion and they only do it at bigger events, it's not common law amongst them.

But people believe in these things, and that's their choice. They're not enforcing it upon people who don't believe it, they're just doing it amongst themselves because they all want to, no one is being forced to.

[–]KarmaUK 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, fair point, as I say, I personally think if they can more carefully word it, there shouldn't be any trouble from regular people, only tabloid journos trying to stir up trouble :)

[–]GoonerGirlGreater London 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I lived in Stamford hill and its not just Jewish women that Jewish men want to avoid. Any strange woman could be menstruating and therefore unclean so all women, Jewish or not, are to be avoided.

Anyway why do the posters direct only women and not men?

[–]HypohamishStaffordshire -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know, ask a Jewish person. I only know why the signs were there and their intended purpose.

[–]charlestondance 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you have a book you utterly believe in. And it says there is a special land that is the most sacred place on earth. And after thousands of years of struggle your people have managed to settle there.

Why would you live in Stamford Hill?

[–]longwaytogo 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The big Morrisons?

[–]lechatcestmoi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I assume they sell both milk and honey there. If it's a big Morrisons, it'd be Cravendale milk and hazelnut honey. Truely the promised land.

[–]SubotanLancashire 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plenty of ultra-Orthodox Jews reject the State of Israel because they consider it as a secular creation to be a violation in the trust Jews should have that God himself will one day return the Jews to the Land of Israel with the arrival of the Messiah. This is the theological reasoning explaining why you occasionally see Haredi Jews at anti-Israel protests, who are then unfortunately trotted out as "good Jews" in contrast to the "bad Jews" of Israel by people with something of an agenda.

[–]HypohamishStaffordshire 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The signs were only 'accidentally' left up, not anyone trying to purposely enforce anything. They were from a Jewish parade earlier that week, and they were put up by the organisers. Obviously anyone who practices the religion has no problem with the signs.

Admittedly the signs could be targeted better - i.e. letting common folk like us know they're for the parade and not some sort of extremist law being enforced, but hindsight is 20/20. They've apparently been told next year just to put the signs up in Hebrew, that way the majority of people won't give a fuck.

[–]ithikaEdinburgh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Obviously anyone who practices the religion has no problem with the signs.

This seems unlikely.

[–]thetoadudeLondon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

As someone who grew up in an Orthodox Jewish family about half an hour from Stamford Hill, I can no assure you that men and women being separated during events is extremely common and nobody (within the community of course) has a problem with it.

[–]ithikaEdinburgh -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh please. In every community in the world there are people who are not happy with the social pressures they have been born into. If they don't tell you about it doesn't mean they don't want to change it or escape it.

[–]HypohamishStaffordshire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have you even seen a Jewish wedding?

[–]ithikaEdinburgh 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you like films about gladiators?

[–]ZOIDO -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do.

[–]pinkamena-pi 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Bloody Muslims! Oh wait, Never mind its OK because I don't want to labed an anti-semtie

[–]Worm_Alt 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wouldn't want to be labed an anti-Semtie either.

[–]montoya456France (I know, I know) 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Semtie here, fuck all o' y'all

[–]GazongolaBrummagem 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Both Muslims and Jews are semitic people. Just saying.

[–]SexLiesAndExerciseLondon 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whatever. I'm anti-semantic.

[–]Galerath 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then your statements are meaningless.

Including that one.

I need a minute to process this...

[–]ExTractorFan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This argument is meaningless. Anti-semite never meant 'all semitic people' since it was first created as a term: it has always meant anti-Jewish prejudice. I've seen it trotted out by the left and the right for various reasons, none of them valid.

[–]BilgisticCivilisation 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is technically true but the reason "anti-Semitism" is associated solely with hating Jewish people is because that's what it was invented to describe.

[–]LovesWords 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but antisemitic doesn't mean a dislike of Semites. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anti-Semitism

[–]rbncWales. Living in Germany. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah because saying something anti-muslim never gets you labeled as "Islamophobic".

[–]Rexhowgebb 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

*** Click-bait alert! ***

[–]2assholesdntmkewhole 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I used to work at the pub in Stamford Hill. After locking up each night I'd go for a drink at a bar a few doors down that would lock the known locals in after official closing time.

We'd still pay for drinks but with the doors closed to the public we were free to smoke indoors while we drank and it was quite lovely in a artsy dive bar type of way.

All types of characters would frequent this place, young adults, OAP's, writers, artists, teachers, musicians, the unemployed and even the odd traveller or two.

One night I did the usual routine of closing up and then went over. I sat down opposite the barman. Next to me is an older lady, a regular known for enjoying her drink but was a nice enough drunk that it didn't matter all that much.

Next to her was an older Jewish man in full traditional orthodox attire, getting quite touchy feely with her in between the punchlines of group conversation. As we'd all laugh at someone's joke he'd touch her but let his hands both linger and wander a tad too much for the barman and I not to notice.

A while later the now nicely intoxicated older lady asked us to call her a cab and as we comply I see the Jewish chap whisper sweet nothings into her ear only for her to shake her head and announce to no one and everyone that she was leaving alone.

I knew then that his whole religious get up was a sham. This guy was no more a man of god than I was, only I wasn't pretending to be.

Can't walk the streets with his fellow Jewish ladies but can fully touch up the Irish ones.

Edit: pesky spellingses.

[–]6affEast Sussex 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh come on, there are people who wear the religious getup but that doesn't automatically mean they are angels. There are people who go to church every sunday yet whore around the rest of the week. There will always be a few bad apples, doesn't mean its accepted.

[–]2assholesdntmkewhole 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find it somewhat funny that you'd call a man following his natural instinct a bad apple. Hell if I were 30 years older I would have probably hit on her too.

I think you're correctly picking up on my distain for gender based piety though. From the Christians and the Muslims to the Jews, women seem to be handled like they're atomic bombs or something.

Tbh I think rules like this are draconian and only serve to keep women in subservient "original sin" type mentalities, I highly doubt standing on the same street with the opposite sex is going to result in a public orgy but that's neither here or there as I'm certainly not the thought police.

[–]tipodecinta 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hackney Council should prosecute them for fly-posting.

[–]Wargame4life 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice to see the council actually defending decent values for once.

Any public sign claiming any gender should or must do anything different is unacceptable unless its objectively justified such as toilets etc.

"because god said so" is not a genuine objective valid reason.

[–]Roady356 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm pleased with how this has been dealt with, swiftly and, so far, no cries of racism or anything from either side. If only our dealings with Muslims in East London would go so smoothly.

[–]ShanghaiNoon 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

When did the removal of "Sharia posters" result in cries of racism or is this just something you've made up?

[–]Roady356 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not saying it happened but there are men walking around East London trying to impose Sharia Law. As with any issue related to Islam at the moment the subject is handled very gently as the higher powers don't want to piss anyone off, meaning shit doesn't get done and makes us look weak and like walkovers.

[–]ShanghaiNoon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You must be reading completely different papers to everyone else because that's certainly not how "Sharia patrols" were covered in the press.

[–]Roady356 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No one seems to be doing anything about them though! Yet as soon as the Jews put up some posters they're immediately taken down.

[–]ShanghaiNoon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Again, not true. I don't know if you're guessing or are following unreliable sources but they were promptly removed.

[–]apple_kicks[🍰] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

actually people who put up stickers etc were caught, arrested, put on trial, found guilty under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 and fined

[–]ZOIDO -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where did this article mention Muslims?

[–]MetabogYorkshire 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care which god you worship, if you do this you're a fuckhead.

[–]EwanWhoseArmyCumberland 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Not going to lie I did assume they would be Muslims before I read it.

Am I evil?

[–]rbncWales. Living in Germany. 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Stamford Hill is a very famous Jewish area.

[–]EwanWhoseArmyCumberland 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah I am from the opposite end of the country, I rarely go there

[–]tusksrusManchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think, thanks to the media, I know more about London's areas than I do about Manchester's.

[–]steakbakeGreater Manchester 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Prestwich. The Manchester jews are in Prestwich.

[–]TheManchesterAvenger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never even heard of Prestwich.

[–]infernal_llamasLancashire [In exile in Bradford] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't blame you 90% of these things in the news are to do with Muslims because the news corporations know it makes good headlines that a lot of people will get behind.

[–]BelieveInBugs 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lived just down the road from there in the '80s. The Big Hat Guys were funny to watch as they screeched to a halt and dived out of their Volvos into the late-night delis, frantically preparing for the Sabbeth, when they couldn't do anything. They could eat, but not cook. They could watch telly, but they couldn't change the channel. They couldn't use the phone. So local punks started breaking into their houses, in broad daylight and right in front of them, and walking out with their stuff, and they sat there and watched it happen rather than break the Sabbeth.

Fundamentalism; who needs sanity when you can take everything to its illogical extreme?

[–]6affEast Sussex 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like a bunch of assholes taking advantage of a group of people. Shouldn't their neighbours be able to do something about it? I'm sure it isn't against the sabbath to scream if someone breaks into your house.

[–]BelieveInBugs 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was, and they did. Happened a couple of times before the police were waiting.

[–]chairman_miaooww 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There have been a few cases like this in the US

Gender segregated Bus Lines

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/nyregion/bus-segregation-of-jewish-women-prompts-review.html

Sanctioned for forty years

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/new_york/segregated_bus_line_tacitly_sanctioned_decades

Still happening

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2013/10/hasidic-bus-company-still-illegally-gender-segregating-public-buses-123.html

Or gender segregated playgrounds

http://www.yourjewishnews.com/2013/04/26642.html?m=1

Or gender segregated streets

http://www.jta.org/2014/06/30/news-opinion/gender-segregating-signs-stir-controversy-in-new-yorks-kiryas-joel

Or tank top bans

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/34/23/wb_modestypolice_2011_6_10_bk.html

Or Jewish patrols

http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-09-07/news/gotham-s-crusaders-shomrim-jewish-neighborhood-patrol/

Who beat up anyone that looks Muslim

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2014/04/4-hasidim-arrested-in-beating-of-gay-black-man-456.html

[–]ChyldBuckinghamshire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, it's not a poster and a request that should be posted and/or left up in our wonderful mostly-secular society, and I don't approve... but it was so very polite. They said please and everything. It's not like they were roving around in gangs smacking pork chops out of people's hands.

[–]lechatcestmoi [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

The jewish people I know would smack a bacon butty out of my hand because they thought they'd forgotten to offer me HP sauce with it.

[–]7zark77LDN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

People are being very respectful and reasonable in this thread, saying people should be permitted to follow the rules of their faith.

I just can't believe the sentiment would be the same if it was for a Muslim event...

[–]potentialhijabi1Land of sheep and rhubarb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember there was a massive uproar in the papers about a university's Islamic society holding a lecture by a well-known Islamic scholar where there was gender-segregated seating. Everyone was falling over themselves to bang on about misogyny and all this crap, and yet the most basic of Google searches revealed there existed a third seating area which was not segregated, and no-one was forced to sit anywhere. Plus those who did sit in the single-sex seating said that they wee doing so because they wanted to do so.

[–]GobshiteExtra 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Badly designed posters really nothing more. Seems a bit backward to me but each to their own.

[–]benowillockEast Riding of Yorkshire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm pretty sure it was an honest mistake; we haven't heard their side of the story yet have we?

They should've run it through the event organizers and the council first, yes, and if they did it would've most likely avoided the mistake, but the correct response is not for people to start going "oh those crazy Jewish nutters" and swearing and carrying on.

They can do what they like in their religion so long as it doesn't harm others and if they want to put up temporary posters to instruct their own people of their own specific customs they should be allowed to.

[–]cliffski -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i think the mistake is believing in some nonsense where god allows hurricanes, disease and earthquakes, but concerns himself with which side of the road women walk on and whether or not people have their hair arranged in the 'acceptable' fashion.

[–]GetKennySouth Saxon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oi vey.

[–]yrro 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No comment from the group who put these posters up?

[–]TiocfaidhAllah -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Vile people. Shomrim too! State funded vigilantly force.

[–]seandeeds -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

we are one before God.

[–]dougie_gBerkshire -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's political correctness gone mad!