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[–]Zeal0tEliteMaster Kenobi you're no match for him, he's a shitlord. 322 ポイント323 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Tumblr: Where facts go to die.

[–]Livin_ThingTW: Logic 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (7子コメント)

As if they even go there to begin with.

[–]BlackdutchieSI-kin Pronouns: mole/ampere/candela 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (6子コメント)

How's this one?

Tumblr: Like decaf, but with facts.

[–]Livin_ThingTW: Logic 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Defactinated.

[–]ManadoxLiterally Shitler 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Like Facebook with guns"

8/10

-IGN

[–]mrtman327bigender nonbinary pumpkin pr: fuckyou/fuckyour/fuckyourself 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"This game killed my father, raped my mother, and made me paralyzed from the waist down, except for my asshole for which I can constantly feel this game buttfucking me." 7/10.

-IGN

[–]EdEmKay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the absolute funniest was Army Of Two: 40th Day. they spent the entire 5 minute review bigging up, telling us it was a great feeling sequel, at the end summary as the only negative point; "weak pistols - 7/10" i was stunned.

[–]lordillidanmono-white-kin with protection from black 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

8/10 by IGN? Did they open the box and found a shit instead of a disk?

[–]AverageTheJamMmmh yeah, that triggers me so hard. 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Naw, the paycheck just didn't clear.

[–]wildery 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I couldn't help but notice a telling little comment among the notes;

tbh I think the last comment kinda ruined it, I really don’t care if that’s how it went, if it’s something like this I’d like to be lied to. probably a straight person jfc

[–]unjustempire 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I noticed that as well. Speaks volumes about the tumblr community. The notion that actual facts are worse then the warm fuzzy feeling brought on by a lie. And the bonus, you must be different then me for trying to tell me the truth.

[–]wildery 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like a one-comment microcosm of the tumblr community. It even lacks punctuation.

[–]panchoviLord of the Faeces 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I'm not interested in reality. To me, what matters are the things that could be true."

  • Albert Einstein

[–]poopsliquid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, not at all like reddit, where facts are always 100% true and people don't mindlessly believe posts with many upvotes.

[–]theticalityOxygenkin. Your breathing oppresses me. 152 ポイント153 ポイント  (28子コメント)

So it's basically the exact opposite of what OP said. A kiss from the days before "no homo" became a thing.

[–]SuperschlafanzugHeadmaster of the Ultrapatriarchy: I raped Schrödinger[S] 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Just like holding hands between men was not seen as gay, as these Prussian soldiers demonstrate.

Edit: No wonder Napoleon III got rekt. Those beards dude.

[–]psychopastry 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (9子コメント)

That guy in the top right has seen some shit

[–]AlexLong1000My privilege check bounced. 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Considering he was a soldier, yes, he probably has.

[–]SuperschlafanzugHeadmaster of the Ultrapatriarchy: I raped Schrödinger[S] 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since it is from 1866, it is possible that they served in the German Brother War (Austro-Prussian War) of the same year. Especially the battle of Königgrätz was a massacre on the Austrian side.

[–]letsnottryanotherTouretteskin. Pronouns: fuckyou/fuckyou/fuckyourself. 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's nothing compared to survivors of the 4chan raid on tumblr.

[–]DisgruntledPersianPansexual, Polysexual, Third Gender, Human Pheonix, Transnigger 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

White men can't feel terrible because of the terrible things they did to black people, gay, and women. Didn't you hear?

[–]Silvermane714Dark Lord of the Shit 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://i.imgur.com/WIbp06y.png

[–]BeARdBARIANTrans-continental Railroad-kin. Pronouns: Choo/Chuga/Choochoo 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He might have just gotten a shave and is still recovering from the shock of losing his beard.

[–]KTY_ 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I can feel... the wind... on my cheeks... Such a gentle breeze..."

[–]chessandgoI checked my privilage it said: "are you root?" 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's because he doesn't have any facial hair.

[–]tekendeGarruk, Caller of Beast-kin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guy at lower left is drunk as hell.

[–]Bardlartransliquid transsolid gas identifying aquakin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's still not seen as gay in many parts of the world. Those ideas kinda died in the western world, but in parts of Europe and beyond, same gender affection is a lot more socially normative. However, that doesn't make those groups more or less homophobic, though I'm sure parts of Europe are more liberated that North Americans about that stuff.

[–]carbonfiberxdayman-kin 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Platonic hand holding is common in the Arab world, as well.

[–]SpaceNavy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Prussians are badasses

[–]Srslyjc 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (8子コメント)

"Romantic friendships" used to be pretty common, especially among young women. Most people didn't even know homosexuality was real, so physical affection with your friend wasn't considered taboo. Our concepts of sexuality have changed tons in the last century or so.

[–]bryanpcox 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

there is no doubt that public displays of affection have changed substantially in the last century, primarily due to modern christianity, however, it is a bit disconcerting that there is a paucity of cited sources in article [3], making it seem like hearsay and conjecture, and therefore a bit agenda-driven

[–]Srslyjc 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know they're probably not the most professional of sources. But the concept of the "invention" of homo/heterosexuality has definitely been explored in depth. Foucault talks about it and he's a major influence in LGBT studies.

[–]LOSTie-chan 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those old photos are so Fucking adorable. Cute bros.

[–]TheEmpiresBeer 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reading that Art of Manliness article was very interesting! It actually almost made me sad for men who have to contain themselves and maintain this emotional distance all the time...
When I look at those photos and switch the genders, nothing about them seem "gay". Women still pose together today like many of those photos and no one bats an eye. I wonder why female friendships have this level of intimacy today (and how has that intimacy changed over time?)

[–]Bardlartransliquid transsolid gas identifying aquakin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On one hand, male-male intimacy is still seen as weird, especially in North America, I think people are becoming more accepting of that. From my perspective as a young, Christian adult male, despite many stereotypes about hetero-normativity within the church, I have more friends like that among my fellow Christian friends than my other-religion and non-religious friends. I think that's because it has almost nothing to do with undertones of homophobia and more to do with lack of strong social connections.

[–]dascxzczxcxz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

physical affection with your friend

Jonathan Ned Katz

Katz

the Western man plans and the Jew laughs

[–]et_pereat_mundus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Today it's called "skinship."

[–]snukb 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Ironically, it's BECAUSE homosexuality was more taboo that platonic affection was common and socially acceptable. No one would ever think that you were gay, because being gay just wasn't a thing.

[–]ArgieGrit01Cis-scum kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone kissed in the mouth in those old movies. I have an old Chaplin movie where hi kisses his son, so Chaplin is a pedophile apparently

[–]VeteranGSmo-kin n' drin-kin 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (1子コメント)

no reals only feelz

[–]NoRoofAccess 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No dreams, only memes

[–]FazzehTranstrenders! Cishets in disguise! 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Why do they insist on whitewashing the intolerance of the past by insisting that bigotry is new? Who does that benefit?

[–]Tinfoil_Haberdashery 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Seriously. I once saw a post claiming that there was a black guy in King Arthur's court. He was supposedly and Moor who had come north for some reason. Think Morgan Freeman in that terrible Robin Hood movie. Only problem is, the legend of King Arthur are actually older than the entire religion of Islam and there were no Moors at the time the original Arthurian legends. The later Renaissance writers who shoehorned the character in were only doing so because they considered black people to be extremely exotic. Now tell me, how exactly is this evidence that people in the past weren't racist?

[–]AlbrechtVonRoon 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Think Morgan Freeman in that terrible Robin Hood movie.

Or Isaac Hayes and Dave Chappelle in the greatest Robin Hood film of all time.

[–]TeaDranks 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck yes!

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Except there's some suggestion that Arthur's legends originate in post-Roman Britain, which would make black soldiers not uncommon. It was also not uncommon for explorers to come and stay in important kings' courts; there would definitely very likely be some non-whites in the court of the King of All the Britons. Also what those Renaissance guys would have called a Moor, i,.e. a Maghrebi, were around before Islam, and as they like to say, will be around after it.

Source: I'm a Welsh myth and history nerd, plus interested in representations of race throughout history.

[–]foxyandflatulent 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Except there's no evidence King Arthur even existed, so discussing this is pointless.

[–]Twmbarlwm 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, he is a very old figure in Welsh mythology and always mentioned very matter-of-factly, and there is nothing to suggest that he didn't exist in some form or another. Obviously he didn't find the holy grail or decapitate immortal green giants from Ireland though.

"godolei o heit meirch e gayaf caer ceni bei ef arthur, rug ciuin uerthi ig, disur ig kynnor guernor guaurdur" Y Gododdin ~600 AD

(he fed black ravens on the walls of the fortress, although he was no Arthur, among the powerful of feat in the front rank the palisade Gwawddur)

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, no. If you're rooting a fictional character in his historical (supposed) context, then it has a point. If it doesn't matter, then why complain about a black guy in his court?

Also, it's not just about whether he existed or him himself but the standards, expectations, realities and whatever of the time period his stories originated in. This is why I said "there's some suggestion that Arthur's legends originate in post-Roman Britain" not "there is some suggestion Arthur was alive in post-Roman Britain."

[–]WanderingPenitentBrony Shitlord 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some later versions added Sir Palomedes who was a Saracen. While not black, he wouldn't be considered white either. To be fair, most medieval people cared a lot about status, birth, and lineage. But not race.

[–]PatriarchyLLCAn equal opportunity employer 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They kinda have a point and kinda don't; in the past, skin color itself wasn't much a driver of hatred. Instead people hated mostly on finer lines, such as the various religious wars, and nationality(eg, the English treating the Irish and Scots as inferiors).

Still, it's about as relevant as pointing out during World War I that the hatred for the Hun(to the point of attacking dachshunds) didn't used to exist a couple of decades ago when all the top minds in America got their PhDs from Prussia.

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't see the phrase "top minds" anymore without thinking of /r/conspiracy....

[–]LtGayBoobMan 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think it's a way to paint what they're angry at in an even worse light. It's an effort to make the "patriarchy" look worse by saying "OH LOOK WE'VE REGRESSED LOOK AT HOW PERFECT THINGS WERE 100 YEARS AGO."

It's silly and damaging and condescending to the people who've worked for the progress decades ago.

[–]FazzehTranstrenders! Cishets in disguise! 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know who else thinks we've regressed in the last 100 years? Racists, misogynists and homophobes. The difference is, by their own standards, they're right, and the feminists, by their own standards, are wrong.

[–]Boxpopper -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, the United States did regress from the 20s into the 60s. But not in this way to my knowledge.

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Actually, it's important to counter the progressive narrative - I don't mean Democratic politcal talking points, I mean historically.

Biogtry and tolerance are complicated, and it is not just a straight line from dark intolerance -------> enlightened tolerance.

It goes back and forth, up and down, so it's important to recognize when a type of bigotry is a new invention, and to know that just cause we're doing well now doesn't mean we can relax, as we may lose everything we worked for.

[–]FazzehTranstrenders! Cishets in disguise! 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What kind of bigotry is new? The only thing I can think of is transphobia, and that's only because we've only just realised trans people exist.

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, depending on what you mean by "new", you could argue racism proper (not just generalised outgroup hatred) is new cause it's only really been around for the past 350-400 odd years.

My point was more that rights of different groups and attitudes towards them fluctuate throughout history. So taking the racism example again, non-citizens in Rome were discriminated against, but citizens of all sorts of colours and ethnicities became emperor.

[–]FazzehTranstrenders! Cishets in disguise! 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's fair enough actually.

But my original point was more about denying historical bigotry where it actually did exist, like, say, racism, sexism and homophobia in 1920s America.

[–]MetaBotch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They benefit. We live in the most progressive, most tolerant period of history, which is great unless your entire movement has a giant persecution complex, at which point the advancement of society is problematic. With gay and trans-people facing less and less persecution every year, the only way to project their cult of victimhood is to rewrite historical trends so they go in the other direction.

[–]LolchocoboZusammen-kin 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you look real closely, you can see that the one on the right gives the other two pecks, which is a standard greeting in many European countries.

[–]satanismyhomeboy...And Social Justice For All 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Am Dutch, can confirm.

We give three pecks, which usually makes the last peck really awkward with other Europeans.

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a Brit, it's all awkward.

[–]kawaiigardiner 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So a bit like 'Meet the Spartans'; hand shake for the ladies, tongue kisses for the men?

[–]TheLuckySpades 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Luxembourg also has three. Some regions in France have up to four according to my mom who works with a lot of French people. But you can never be sure how many too give, do they know your vous toms and will adapt or should you adapt?

[–]labiaflutteringby 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

as an american, that's still pretty hot

[–]Naked_Drummer 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bbbb-but muh gif

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Actually in the 1920s there was a bit more blurring of the lines and a bit more acceptance of homosexuality in filmmaking in Weimar Germany at least, and we all know how that ended.

TBH neither poster is quite right except for the fact that these are sisters not lovers.... unless ;)

[–]tonytyrant 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–]Crown118Rock-kin (pronouns: igneous, sedimentary, metamorphic) 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gimme the booty.

[–]PM_Me_Ur_Ahole_Girl 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

gimme da booty

[–]TeaDranks 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and we all know how Tumblr hates those blurred lines

[–]AlbrechtVonRoon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Weimar Germany is a mass of contradictions, and much of the culture that we associate with the Weimar period was likely only accessed by the upper echelons of society. Germany was hardly good economically in this period, going to cabarets and movies for most was an expense they could do without. There is a very good article one of the recent editions of the Journal of the German History Society that focuses on jazz in Weimar Germany. It argues that the vast majority of Germans experienced jazz through visual senses (reading in Newspapers about the new music, seeing posters with stereotypical black people) rather than actually hearing it. The cultural aristocracy might have been more accepting, but the average German wouldn't have been.

Unless, rather counter-intuitively, you were a member of the Nazi SA. They were quite tolerant of homosexuals.

[–]BuddhistJihadPetr Kropot-kin Pronouns: Comrade/Comrade's/Comradeself -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right, but I didn't want to get into an essay. It's always hard to put the right amount of nuance in short reddit posts.

[–]WhiskyBreakfast 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There used to be quite a few homosexuals portrayed in Hollywood films too. While showing "sex perversions" such as homosexual behavior was banned, movies up through the 20s and 30s still showed homosexual characters. However a simple lesbian kiss scene in Queen Cristina changed that, and the censors really cracked down on all forms of sexuality in films.

[–]HypnotaodGarruk, Apex Shitlord 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Silent films: the original hentai

[–]themilgramexperienceBod-kin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hollywood in particular went through a tolerant (for America, anyway) phase; case in point is this guy, who was the number 1 male box office draw in the late 20's, and also openly lived with his partner Jimmie Shields.

[–]autowikibot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

William Haines:

Charles William "Billy" Haines (January 2, 1900 – December 26, 1973), known professionally as William Haines, was an American film actor and interior designer.

Haines was discovered by a talent scout and signed with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer in 1922. His career gained momentum when he was loaned out to Columbia Pictures where he received favorable reviews for his role in The Midnight Express. Haines returned to MGM and was cast in the 1926 film Brown of Harvard. The role solidified his screen persona as a wisecracking, arrogant leading man. By the end of the 1920s, Haines' had appeared in a string of successful films and was a popular box office draw.

His career was cut short by the 1930s due to his refusal to deny his homosexuality. Haines quit acting in 1935 and started a successful interior design business with his life partner Jimmie Shields, and was supported by friends in Hollywood. Haines died of lung cancer in December 1973 at the age of 73.

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[–]CagerRager 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know reddit is plenty guilty of spreading misinformation, but sweet mother of god, tumblr rivals facebook/chain emails when it comes to spreading and perpetuating absolute garbage.

[–]nowaygreg 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The trend of finding a picture or gif and then making up a story to fit your agenda is a disturbing trend...

[–]Bob9999999999999 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Even the person offering the correction is infected with SJW ideology.

the 20’s [...] Oh yeah, women can’t vote, work or think for themselves

Women got the vote in 1920 (in the U.S., at least) and had been working for over a century. Granted, most of it was monotonous wage labor for the women of the lower classes, but there were also a few prominent female journalists such as Ida Tarbell and Nellie Bly. America's first female journalist, Anne Royall, was born before the American Revolution and died in 1854. Yes, society was much more sexist in the 1920s, but it wasn't The Handmaid's Tale.

[–]CrypticTrypticPronouns: Sir, Highness, Most Exalted One 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think she is more likely just infected by the US school system and adding some hyperbole. Every history class I took in school at the very least implied (if not outright stated) that WW2 was the first time women were allowed into the workforce.

[–]Bob9999999999999 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does she think the women in the gif were slaves or something? They were paid actresses because women could work.

[–]et_pereat_mundus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think she's just making a generalization that isn't supposed to be taken as literally factual.

[–]bugxter 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That gif is so fucking creepy, I feel like if I watch enough time some creepy ghost face will appear on the screen D:

[–]scarsAndFlamesIsaac-kin; Triggers: Mom 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

2creepy4me

[–]ttumblrbotsCheck your organic privilege. 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]

Anyone know an alternative to Readability? Send me a PM!

[–]Butt_BillionaireMountain Dew™-kin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you told these people that a mini-Hitler could grow on your genitalia and added a photoshopped picture to go with it, they'd probably believe it. Pictures don't lie, folks.

[–]Galteeth 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's true that silent film makers did create alot of sexual content before the crackdowns.

[–]winston-smithsEvgeni Mal-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Check out pre-code Friday nights on TCM all this month. Not silents, but still good pre-codes. /shameless classic film fan's plug of TCM

[–]KiriokoSnufkin, snuf/snuf/snuf, POC privilege checked 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

But what is TCM?

[–]winston-smithsEvgeni Mal-kin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Turner Classic Movies. It's a channel on TV that plays classic films 24/7. :) And puts SINGIN' IN THE RAIN on at the shittiest time slots, the most recent one being at 3:15. :)))))))))))))))

[–]KiriokoSnufkin, snuf/snuf/snuf, POC privilege checked 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh thank you! I'll look into this.

[–]TheoX747 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What exactly am I supposed to be gleaning from this gif?

[–]Teakbud 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

While I appreciate fact-checking and truth, thinking society would be less liberal as you go back in time is not necessarily the case. Greeks two thousands years ago were fine with homosexuality and what would be considered pedophilia today.

Just a side remark though.

[–]foxyandflatulent 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not quite true. Pederesty was widely seen as acceptable (though the acceptance of penetration would vary on region and time), but homosexuality, which would not have existed for the Greeks since sexual relationships were built around active/passive roles and their social implications and not on gender, between adult men would have been very, very rare. Although it undoubtedly existed (in fact, there are some famous examples of such), the idea of an adult man assuming a passive (penetrated) role would have been scandalous, since that role is associated with femininity and youth. A man being the passive member in a homosexual relationship would have been shamed publicly and seen as a woman in society. Many plays include points of derision towards these men who betrayed the Greek masculine ideal.

[–]Teakbud -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't see how you would considerate that not to be gay sex.

[–]foxyandflatulent -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could you be more specific, your comment makes no sense. I said that pederesty was widely seen as accepted, which is obviously going to involve sex between adult men and young boys at various points in time although penetration was not always acceptable everywhere. I also said that homosexual couples were known to exist, but that the passive partner was seen as "less than a man" or simply as a woman by society, and the Greeks were often repulsed that a man would "make himself a woman" by having sex with another adult man. It isn't that I don't "consider this to be gay sex," it clearly is, but it also clearly shows that Greeks were most certainly not "fine with homosexuality," as you put. Homosexual couples involving two adult men were in fact spurned and derided by society, with the passive partner flouting cultural norms for male conduct. There's so much misinformation on the internet about homosexuality in ancient Greece, which is just hilarious because you could take five minutes to read a wikipedia page and clear it all up.

[–]CommanderShep 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That guy is needlesy hostile. and women could vote in the 1920s. !9th amendment (womens suffarage) was passed around that time (1919-1920 I believe)

[–]winston-smithsEvgeni Mal-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women can't vote in the 20s

Do they really wanna say this? Do they really, REALLY wanna say this?

[–]antigravcorgi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

tbh I think the last comment kinda ruined it, I really don’t care if that’s how it went, >if it’s something like this I’d like to be lied to. probably a straight person jfc

Tumblr feminism in a nutshell

[–]clayblaster 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hear this a lot. Like, there was a US president back in 18whatever. He wrote something like "I long for my friend Thomas, whom I hold dear in my heart."

People read that and go "holy shit! See? Society is going backwards! We were once ok with a gay president!"

No... No, sadly, they werent

[–]searingskyTransParent Orphankin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

These always get me. Some kid stumbles upon a random old looking picture on the internet and just makes up completely random shit about it to fit their agenda. And people buy it

[–]kubrick2160 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah the French... Perfectly fine with kissing sisters... My kind of people...

[–]NoRoofAccess 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Damn, that was hot.

[–]MrMoustachioMy pronouns are Marklar/Marklar/Marklar. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/wincest

[–]heruskael 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

WHY

[–]MrMoustachioMy pronouns are Marklar/Marklar/Marklar. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why ask why? Try your sister, dry.

[–]pineyfusionYou can Toucan! 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, it wasn't as if the 1920s film scene wasn't entirely devoid of homosexual overtones. Only thing was that a lot of the times, they were the butt of jokes or villains. Granted, it's mostly hinted at throughs stereotypes but it was there. It wasn't until the Hays Code in 1930 that put a real kibosh to that stuff until around 1968....for the most part.

Because the Hays Code sure as hell didn't stop Morocco, Rope, Rebel Without a Cause, and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof from being made.

[–]jessiemaims 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, there were some instances of fairly obvious homoerotic behavior in movies (mostly, iirc) before 1932. In this instance, the characters are "sisters," but perhaps that was a common way to insert lesbianism into film. I can think of one other film off the top of my head, Broadway Melody (1929). Two sisters, Hank and Queenie, land in NYC with a Broadway dream as a duet. Hank's boyfriend is their Broadway contact, but falls for Queenie, and a love triangle ensues. The way it has read to some people is that the real crux of the plot is the relationship between the sisters, not their male beaux. The finale kiss is between the sisters, and not with their now-husbands.

Gay people have been in movies since the beginning, but sometimes their presence has been coded.

[–]autowikibot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Broadway Melody:

The Broadway Melody, also known as The Broadway Melody of 1929, is a 1929 American musical film and the first sound film to win an Academy Award for Best Picture. It was one of the first musicals to feature a Technicolor sequence, which sparked the trend of color being used in a flurry of musicals that would hit the screens in 1929–1930. Today the Technicolor sequence is presumed lost and only a black and white copy survives in the complete film. The film was the first musical released by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and was Hollywood's first all-talking musical.

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Interesting: Broadway Melody of 1938 | Broadway Melody of 1936 | Broadway Melody of 1940 | Eleanor Powell

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[–]EggheadDashTou-kin: Pronouns - Tou/tou/touself 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In some cultures, especially Hispanic, this is still considered normal between friends.

[–]MrMoustachioMy pronouns are Marklar/Marklar/Marklar. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

#rekt

[–]jhib456 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2008/08/24/the-history-and-nature-of-man-friendships/

This is an interesting article that sort of hits on a point about how friendship was manifested in a different way a long time ago. It specifically speaks of male-male friendships, but I just thought it was an interesting read and somewhat related to the topic.

[–]Ulquiorra_Schiffer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sanity Sunday?

Shouldn't that just be what Tumblratrest is for? I'm a little confused why it was created.

[–]the_Vandal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, that's hot as hell! Could you imagine getting a gander at them gams! Ooh La La!

[–]funwiththoughts -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shouldn't this be in /r/TumblrAtRest?

[–]SirCiph*cracks my knuckles loudly and bisexually* 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No.

Sanity Sunday