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[–]Samurai_PandaTell a rape joke and get stabbed ( ʘ‿ʘ✿) 245 ポイント246 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Maybe.

Just maybe.

Gay bars are primarily serving gay people.

[–]FalcunPaunch 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (3子コメント)

In straight bars, feminists complain that they receive too much attention - which is offensive, objectifying, and misogynistic.

In gay bars, where women are decidedly not the center of attention, feminists complain that that lack of attention is offensive, objectifying, and misogynistic.

For fuck's sake, go to a lesbian bar where people want to hear your new-wave feminist crap.

[–]D4rthkitty 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except if they went to the lesbian bar they would be upset because they didn't want to get hit on.

I am straight, but occasionally I will go to a gay bar as a designated driver. and there are always the girls there going because they want "A gay best friend". and if any lesbian hits on them they get very offended and appalled. Like homophobic level of offended

It is like, you are at a gay bar. If you are not ugly someone is going to hit on you. Just take it as a compliment and inform them you are not there for dating

[–]squirrels33nut, nuts, nutself 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

For fuck's sake, go to a lesbian bar where people want to hear your new-wave feminist crap.

I can just imagine the response: "Lesbian bars have too much drama!"

[–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (3子コメント)

But that negates the Jezebelian Special Snowflake status and that IS misogyny.

[–]SunfriedPatriarch Level VII 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everyone's equal, but women must be more equal than others!

[–]YOUGOTMOxYShitlord - I'm the lord and you're the shit 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this man have basically bought in to the Jezebel viewpoint.

That not giving a shit about women or not giving them attention is misogyny.

And somehow as long as jezebel keeps making passive aggressive scenarios that never happened you can hook any feminist in.

What makes my blood boil is that some how a gay bar is a contrived scenario because women aren't important.

Shut the fuck up. You're not the centre of attention, you morons. It's a gay bar. Gay men aren't interested in long-term relationships with you. So either deal with your insecurity or take it elsewhere.

[–]thevelarfricative 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The author IS a gay male.

[–]FoxRaptixPronouns: Don't/Stop/Believing 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So like i went to this gay bar and there was so much misogyny you wouldn't believe it! Like they had no interest in women at all, could you believe it, they don't even have a ladies night! Why wont these gay men pay attention to women in their spaces, i just don't understand it!

[–]JabbatheslannObese Floating Frogkin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, men trying to exist in safe spaces for women is so fucked up and problematic, but how come these gays can't accept us straight women?

[–]RowdyPants 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only SJW's can have 'safe spaces'

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    [–]theinsanityPronouns: 伊、佢、其。It's not my job to educate you, shitlord.[S] 134 ポイント135 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Teh menz don't deserve safe spaces. It's misogyny otherwise.

    [–]LecksTrigger Trigger Trigger, 100% Trigger 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    No boys clubs allowed! Ever!

    [–]Anal_Matrix 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    [–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I think I love you.

    Ween is the greatest. But I can't put my finger on it and know why.

    [–]Wordsharkcall me cismael 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'm playing with Ween! I'm playing with Ween!

    [–][deleted] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You should know by now... first rule of Boy's Club: If there is one, it's misogynist.

    [–]SunfriedPatriarch Level VII 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Gay bars are safe spaces for us.

    There's a bit in the article that caught my eye:

    Maybe it happens when gay men get too comfortable in newly-discovered safe spaces–where they get to call the shots as their proudly out new selves.

    Maybe I'm not getting the purpose of a place the writer describes as a safe space, but is there really such a thing as too comfortable in a safe space? They do get to call the shots in their safe spaces, that is the point of a safe space.

    Also, when are people going to learn that complaining about the pour at a bar is worthless-- vote with your dollars and with your feet, people.

    [–]rubelmjOvech-kin: puck/puck/puckself 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Those lesbians are getting too comfortable calling the shots at their bars and clubs, I should go over there and even them out a little.

    Yeah, that totally won't end with 20 women kicking my ass or anything.

    [–]Zerosen_OniEvangeli-kin 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    In college a new bar opened up next to my friends apartment. We went the first day. It was only us. But it was a nice bar, and the bartender was this lovely woman.

    We went back a few weeks later to see it filled with biker lesbians. The owner, it turns out, was in a lesbian biker gang. No shit, a lesbian biker gang.

    And they were some of the funniest, most accommodating people I have ever met. My buddy rides a bit, and ended up riding a bit with them. His joke was that he was the damsel and that they would protect him from other biker gangs.

    Going to a gay bar if you are straight is absolute fine. Just know, it is their space. Simply put-don't be a dick, and life is pretty good.

    [–]rubelmjOvech-kin: puck/puck/puckself 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say you can't go. I was just pointing out how arrogant it is to expect them to cater to you.

    [–]Zerosen_OniEvangeli-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No, I totally got you, I was just telling a fun story

    [–]12_Years_A_ToucanGender: Redditor; Pronouns: Snoo/Snoos/Snooself 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    She compares gay men to meat, then goes on to claim gay men view women as objects to serve them. Seriously what the duck.

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      [–]12_Years_A_ToucanGender: Redditor; Pronouns: Snoo/Snoos/Snooself 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Holy what? Good night sweet toucan.

      [–]ptolemytheumpteenth 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      What, you thought straight people had a monopoly on bitter forever alones?

      [–]NikolaiVonToffeltrans-animal human-kin 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      He referred to himself as a "bigger brown guy," so I dunno.

      [–]Robotic_MuffinImpotent shitlord. CHECK YOUR RAPING PRIVILEGE 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      That's it. I've been a user of this sub for 4-5 months, and I've finally lost my toucan. I feel violated.

      [–]stealthyProboscisTranseatherial Voidkin-Check Your Existing Privilege 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      That long before it happened? I'd guess the average is like 2 weeks, tops.

      [–]PyroSpark 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAA

      That's fucking beautiful.

      [–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      What is funny is if they had just showed up, danced and had fun they would have fit right in.

      But nooooo, the bois didn't fall over themselves because a Jezebel writer and her faux feminist shit flinging gang showed up.

      The girls I know who go to a gay bar do so to dance and be left alone (aka not get hit on).

      These bitches went on tour and found out the place they went to wasn't a tourist destination.

      [–]xXTheGrapenatorXxMy triggers include Real life and Pastrami Sandwiches 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Once again, gay men don't hate SJWs because they're teh womynz but because they're assholes.

      [–]Dumberys_Tardgaryen 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah I really don't give a shit what people believe as long as they're not sanctimonious about it.

      [–]apollofist 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The author is gay Indian male not a woman.

      rhttp://about.me/rohinguha/below/collections

      [–]xXTheGrapenatorXxMy triggers include Real life and Pastrami Sandwiches 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I have no words for this.

      [–]phanfaretissues for cis-sues 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The funny part is this article almost literally boils down to: "But what about the wimynz"

      [–]LolchocoboZusammen-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's interesting how SJWs will derisively mock "but wut about teh menz" but when it's "wut about teh wymynz" it's a very important global issue.

      [–]DryocopusTiarna cac 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I know, right? I feel like if I went into a lesbian establishment with a group of my tittering male friends and started talking about how cute the women were, dancing and grinding up against them, and trying to get them to buy us rounds, and then people started being sort-of-passive-aggressive to me, that would be more than justified. In fact, I'd expect to be kicked out on my ass by a gang of pissed off lesbians and I'd be deeply surprised if I weren't.

      [–]nova_cat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Preach it.

      [–]LivysummersJust Gay 301 ポイント302 ポイント  (44子コメント)

      "gay male privilege" Lol, only in a feminist mind. Just because women are not being worshiped in gay clubs, or are not the center of attention does not make gay men misogynist.

      [–]LecksTrigger Trigger Trigger, 100% Trigger 178 ポイント179 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Not putting women first makes you a misogynist these days. Putting women on a pedestal also makes you a misogynist, now that I think about it.

      Let's just go with "if you exist, you're a misogynist, unless you're a woman and a feminist but only if you also agree with everything the SJW hivemind happens to believe at any given moment". Yeah, that sounds about right.

      [–]ClydeAnderson 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      You can't be skinny, either. Fucking skinny women... i just can't.

      [–]bottledhope33wikibuttkin 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Well obviously skinny women are the Patriarchy. Real women have curves, shitlord. Thus, skinny women don't real.

      [–]Gemuese11Cock of Justice- The mighty tool of oppression 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Also their curves are seven feet wide.

      Iggy still a skinny bitch

      [–]morris198 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (24子コメント)

      Certain brands of feminism have always posited that male homosexuality is "[the] deeply misogynist rejection of women." This, coupled with the fact that gay men won't bend over backwards for women and won't let women get away with the shenanigans that straight men do, it's easy to see why these women are cranky.

      As Bill Burr has often pointed out in his comedic style, straight men long ago discovered that women are less interested in sleeping with them if they're called on their shit or have their faulty arguments corrected. So a lot of women have grown up thinking they're always right or that their shit doesn't stink, when the reality is that men simply think they're "hot."

      When other men come along who have zero interest in them sexually and do correct/criticize them, suddenly it's "misogyny."

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (14子コメント)

      I will say from my experience, and I'm sure this is not universal, that I've noticed very attractive women generally have one particularly misinformed belief that they never get called out on. Whether it be a be a belief in homeopathy, a janky interpretation of an eastern religion, or a poor grasp of history. And no one ever says anything because they're too busy trying to have sex with her and trying to correct her is counterproductive to that aim.

      [–]thevelarfricative 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      I will say from my experience, and I'm sure this is not universal, that I've noticed very attractive men generally have one particularly misinformed belief that they never get called out on. Whether it be a be a belief in a certain superstitious pre-football ritual, a janky interpretation of a western religion, or a poor grasp of history. And no one ever says anything because they're too busy trying to have sex with him and trying to correct him is counterproductive to that aim.

      [–]They_took_it 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Hold on, hold on. Did you just imply that women and men have somewhat equal social circumstances? That's misoggyiny and racial.

      [–]loliger_roflerProfessional Privilege Checker & Feelologist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Actually, most attractive men I know have friends that fucking tell them if they are dumb. As a rule of non-generalizing thumb (You know, the best thumb), I have observed women in their circles are not as direct and honest to their faces as men are, and will often nod and smile at idiocy, followed by "OMG LIKE CAN YOU BELIIIEEEEVE THAT SHE THINKS...?".

      Must be a cultural thing.

      [–]kentuckyfriedBRD 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      The gay (male) world is for men. Gay men live among men, they have men as lovers and friends; unlike straight men, they don't "need" women at all.

      And because of this, they don't need to put up with women's bullshit. Call that misogyny, if you want.

      (Not to say that the gays hate women or avoid them - just that women aren't on a pedestal like they often are in the straight man's world.)

      [–]TROLOLERT 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      sigh

      I have no interest in male 'equipment'... but I get noticeably jealous reading your comment. I'm so fed up with girls at this point that I kinda wish being gay was a choice.

      [–]moonshoeslolAs a Portable Oxygen Concentrator... 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      gay male privilege

      There are literally laws discriminating against them specifically from marrying the person they love.You have to be a special type of stupid to call them privileged.

      [–]soloreddit 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      When we talk about gay male privilege, it's important that as gay men, we understand any of us could've been–or currently are–perpetrators of this culture, simply by being.

      Oh yes, what a privilege it is to have your identity outlawed at a state level in dozens of countries around the world, to risk being violently assaulted or even murdered just for existing, to be mocked and told you're not equal with heterosexuals, to be denied marriage rights even in first world countries, etc.

      Yep, the biggest problem there is that women have to wait longer for drinks in gay bars.

      [–]LolchocoboZusammen-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Women are always more oppressed than men regardless of sexuality.

      [–]gwolf100Internalized homophobia 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Clearly my reason for carrying a knife is because I'm so privileged

      [–]Anteatereatingant 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Exactly. In feminist logic, not fawning over women and worshiping them like deities who can do no wrong is misogyny. She says she and her female friends were "not being shown the appropriate respect" in gay clubs. Because the barmen served guys first ? Because people weren't too interested in them, as generally gay clubs is where gay guys go to meet other gay guys and not women ?

      [–]DatawychTransspecies Honeybee 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Exactly. These bitches are just pissed that there isn't anyone fawning over them or supplying them with free drinks.

      [–]mechaderp4000The feel-o-meter only goes to 11. 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      As a gay male, let me just say:

      Stop having Bachelorette parties at gay bars. My local gay bar has a roof patio that is usually pretty full, but it completely empties out when there's a group of girls in colourful wigs giggling and "WHOOOO"ing while blatantly and inappropriately hitting on men and asking them for sex.

      I'm sorry, but you're not welcome in this case. This should be obvious to them by the fact that everyone leaves when they show up.

      We're not a prop for you. And despite what Sex in the City says, we're not automatically your BFF just because we're gay.

      [–]ThiscowardOppressor 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      What is it with the gays as accessories thing? Some of the straight girls I have known seemed weirdly fascinated by the gay guys they knew or I introduced them to.

      It was like when our cat first learned about the bunny. They were about the same size so the cat probably couldn't do too much harm to it, but all of us still thought the behavior was creepy and took the cat away from the bunny. I am not sure what it wanted from that bunny, but it didn't seem good for anyone.

      [–]mechaderp4000The feel-o-meter only goes to 11. 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      slowly removes bunny ears

      Guys, he's on to us ...

      [–]SoldusАлександр Пуш-кин 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Not to mention (depending on where you live), it rubs in the fact that a lot of gay people still can't get married.

      [–]British_Monkey 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You dudes should set up a decoy gay bar. Hire a couple of men to act as gay guys and entice in all the fat bachelorete parties and rinse em for cash. You keep your gay bar and you make a profit on these idiots.

      [–]mechaderp4000The feel-o-meter only goes to 11. 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Or! We could put up fliers for a big bachelorette bash happening at the decoy gay bar, and then when all these girls show up to have fun we'll lock the doors ...

      ... And launch the entire building into the sun!

      [–]FetusFeast 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      inappropriately hitting on men and asking them for sex.

      The strange fetishizing of gay men by women. You also forgot the contact. I've never seen a bachelorette party (not gay, just worked in a bar) where they aren't trying to grab ass.

      [–]LordKaT 143 ポイント144 ポイント  (21子コメント)

      Why the fuck would you take your female friends to a gay bar? What did you hope to accomplish?

      There's a reason they made you feel uncomfortable: YOU WEREN'T WELCOME THERE! They want to pound male ass, not be sassy with some fucking cunt that's getting drunk at the bar.

      Jesus fucking Christ, the whole world isn't your "safe space."

      Great, now my toucan flew away. Goddamnit I hate reading Jezebel, c'mere you goddamn toucan.

      [–]LecksTrigger Trigger Trigger, 100% Trigger 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Imagine some straight guy writing an article like this about being made to feel uncomfortable because he and his bros decided to go to a lesbian bar.

      [–]woeskiGenghis-kin 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      What is worse, this article was written by a gay dude.

      [–]KAMtrakMustard-kin 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because they're allowed to whatever they want while everyone else has to shut the fuck up and accommodate them.

      [–]DatawychTransspecies Honeybee 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Jesus fucking Christ, the whole world isn't your "safe space."

      This. Oh my fucking god, this. SOOO many of the college-aged women I hang out with act like gay bars are some sort of magical fairyland where they are completely free from negative male attention, but are still entitled to all the positive male attention that they're accustomed to.

      [–]MysteriousMooseRiderSomeone else might have gotten it wrong 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Bit of background here, one of the lads on my hockey team is a bouncer. One day after donating blood (playing hockey) I got to talking to him, and he told me a bit about how a lot of the gay clubs he worked for operated. One of the big things is the gay bars didn't mind having woman in them. However they could get a little nervous when a pack of woman came in. If it was a few woman (or a few men, at the lesbian bar he also worked at) nobody batted an eye. But when a large group of the opposite gender came in, then there was often trouble. You have to remember that this was a student bar, and so for a lot of gay young men this was their first time being able to be openly gay, and thus were understandably nervous. Getting hollered at by a group of women (or men at the lesbian bar) would not make for a fun night.

      EDIT: Also while it is wonderful how far we've come, and that it is now normal to be openly gay, I really don't think gay men have more privilege than woman.

      [–]MyriadMuse 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (13子コメント)

      written by a gay man...sigh.

      [–]ianeth 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Upvote because many comments do not seem to realize this fact. It doesn't make his blocks of word vomit any less inane, but it does provide some context.

      [–]Munkeytoto 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Written by someone claiming to be a gay man*

      [–]nova_cat 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      While his identity isn't relevant whatsoever as far as the (in)accuracy and (in)sanity of his editorial are concerned, it is annoying that he seems to think there is some problem with himself and his fellow gay men in that they don't place straight women at the front and center of their existence. I hesitate to use the phrase "self-loathing homosexual" because it's been done to death and stripped of most of its meaning, but it definitely sprang to mind when I was reading this . . .

      [–]JTD_Rekcile 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Rohin Guha is the very epitome of a "pet gay."

      [–]Flashman97TWA: Triggaz Wit Attitude 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (12子コメント)

      I guess this means I should be able to go into lesbian bars and hit on all the women even though I'm a man.

      [–]LecksTrigger Trigger Trigger, 100% Trigger 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Only if your name is Stephen.

      [–]ConebreadIHTW:Triggered Trigger Warnings 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      ALL HAIL STEPHEN, KING OF THE LESBIANS.

      [–]SaneesvaraSFW 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Stephen King of the Lesbians?

      [–]RedditisquiteamazingDiscount double check your privilege 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I knew this was going to come up somewhere on this thread.

      [–]Wordsharkcall me cismael 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wtf?

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      This lesbian bar doesn't have a fire exit!

      [–]WeOwnThePurpleSpot The Vegan World Champion 2014 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Enjoy your death trap, ladies!

      [–]DryocopusTiarna cac 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What was her problem?

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Even twenty years later that is still hilarious.

      [–]GetAFuckingGripHemisexual Mopar-kin 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (13子コメント)

      If there isn't any kind of transactional exchange happening, then women lose their value in gay male subcultures.

      A laser beam just shot down from the sky and vaporized my toucan...

      [–]delspencerdeltorroWonder-kin powers, activate! Form of: a woman! Shape of: Obese! 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      My toucan soldiered on. It spontaneously combusted when I read "any of us could've been–or currently are–perpetrators of this culture, simply by being."

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I think that its important to realize that not all of the people we criticize belong to the same group, but it is interesting to see the flip side of "we need safe spaces where you guys aren't always barging in"

      [–]kentuckyfriedBRD 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Maybe because ... they never had any value to begin with in gay male subcultures?

      When men are 'seeking' men, then women are just in the way.

      [–]Jazzeki 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      If there isn't any kind of transactional exchange happening, then men lose their value in female subcultures.

      huh funny how that's exactly as true and relevant.

      [–]narwhale_97 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      That is literally the key point in a gay relationship. SJW's are mad because gay men prove that they are useless.

      [–]DirtyNamesGetBlockedJerk-kin pronouns: it/off 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      SJW's Women are mad because gay men prove that they are useless.

      Gay guys will accept a trans-man. Also maybe women shouldn't rely on their self worth being predicated on the attraction of the opposite sex.

      [–]woeskiGenghis-kin 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh god, this shit is so fucking true. There is a certain type of woman who will not take no for an answer if you turn them down. They lose their god damn minds because they are usually found attractive by everybody, but have one dude who is strongly turned off by a certain characteristic and shit is going to go down.

      [–]ThiscowardOppressor 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      So, then that means everyone should be fine with me going to a lesbian gay bar and "looking at the meat" as long as I don't touch it, right?

      Wtf dude, wtf.

      Also that article is unforgivingly long.

      [–]Jalorconductor of the poop train 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I wish this were an isolated instance of crazy, but unfortunately it's part of a larger trend.

      [–]oldirtybaron 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Only time I ever went to a gay bar was at the invitation of my best friend (he's gay). I had a good time. Dudes were nice to me. A few hit on me, but politely declining and explaining I was out with my friend was enough, and we proceeded to get super drunk and have a great time.

      It's also probably the only time I've ever actually danced in public.

      What's the point, you may ask? Well, in my experience gay bars are pretty swell so long as you recognize you're stepping into someone else's house and behave accordingly. As a straight man/woman/not gay man you need to recognize that you're a guest. Behave, be polite, and don't be a demanding cunt.

      I swear my mom taught me that when I was five.

      [–]dovercliffHis Flaming Fagness 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      What's the point, you may ask? Well, in my experience gay bars are pretty swell so long as you recognize you're stepping into someone else's house and behave accordingly. As a straight man/woman/not gay man you need to recognize that you're a guest. Behave, be polite, and don't be a demanding cunt.

      It's this. If you're not gay, and you're in a gay bar, you're a guest. Behave accordingly. The problem is that way too many straight women turn up and expect to be treated like they're descended from heaven, when all they're doing is getting in the way of the gay guys.

      And then they (and their white knights like the author of the Jezebel article) have the nerve to go and bitch about how people weren't kowtowing as they went past.

      [–]Kokobutta 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Basically gay bars are like biker bars. A bunch of women or gay men wouldn't parade into a biker bar and invade their safe space where they do um...biker things. Yes, you can go anywhere you want, but use common sense.

      [–]fdelta1 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (48子コメント)

      gay male privilege

      SJW civil war?

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 115 ポイント116 ポイント  (34子コメント)

      Nope. SJWs have hated gay men and drag queens forever. Mainly because very few of us buy into their shit.

      [–]morris198 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (30子コメント)

      Yeah, for as long as I've argued against these lunatics (SRS in early 2012, and the Tumblr social justice warrior since then), gay men have always been thrown under the bus. Worse, the trend is showing up more frequently with LGBT groups as the lesbian and transgendered leadership of local chapters refocus on their issues, positing that gay men are too privileged as "cis males."

      Male homosexuality and its very real and very unfortunate victims of homophobic violence (as opposed to the ~5% of this violence that targets women or transwomen) are often nothing more than tokens to be paraded around as evidence of society's lack of "progressiveness," only to be promptly discarded in favor of "more deserving" minorities.

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (28子コメント)

      Can confirm as a gay man. We still have very little legal protection unlike other minorities do. On the flip side, nothing pisses me off more than women who think I'm their pet. That shit gets shut down real fucking fast.

      [–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Sex and the city has a lot to answer for.

      [–]nova_cat 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Like what a fucking godawful piece of shit show it was that perpetuated all sorts of misogynistic bullshit that it claimed to be fighting bravely against?

      Oh wait, you meant the objectification of gay men by straight women. Yeah, that too.

      [–]FalcunPaunch 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I've come out to a catholic mother, the president of my University, a police officer who had pulled me over and made homophobic remakes about one of my passengers and close friends, straight male "jock" roommates, countless employers, co-workers, a few landlords, and still, still nothing is more unpleasant than coming out to a "supportive" straight girl who will almost invariably immediately ask me to go for brunch and shop for clothes with her.

      Every fucking time it happens, I want to fucking strike someone.

      [–]MysteriousMooseRiderSomeone else might have gotten it wrong 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh man, I'm sorry, that really sucks. I know I'm just a stranger on the internet, but if you ever want to talk, well I'm here.

      [–]FlowerHarmonyRape Vulture 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      As a lesbian who is friends with a quite a few gay men, it's so sad seeing straight women treat them like they're some accessory or 'lol my gay best friend <3'. Like really.

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      What's funny is how homophobic straight girls become when you tell them to fuck off.

      [–]FetusFeast 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ex and me had a conversation once where she said something along the lines of 'a guy shouldn't be upset if his girlfriend was making out with a girl or having a girl sex-friend because it was a different kind of relationship.'

      I asked her if she'd be upset if I had a boyfriend. Her response was: "Ew, of course I would. That's disgusting."

      And yes, things went downhill fast after that.

      [–]woeskiGenghis-kin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      People are so fucking desperate for gay best friends nowadays that bi people suddenly count, especially if you dress somewhat nicely (not a fashionista by any means but I look decent the vast majority of the time). There is a reason I often refer to myself as straight.

      [–]DiaboliAdvocatusMisogymnastics Gold Medal Winner 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I "straight pass" in most of my social life for this reason.

      I'm not interested in people who are only interested in me because of my sexuality.

      [–]woeskiGenghis-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Same, although if I mention I am interested in dudes nobody is super surprised.

      [–]CoreDuo08Mac OS X-kin. Check your permissions, shitlord. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I couldn't give any specific examples off the top of my head, but I recall a very common theme in American movies and TV shows where a young woman would be all "we're besties now because you're gay, let's go shopping!" only for it to be revealed that the guy was pretending all along. It really tells you what some people think about gay men.

      [–]FetusFeast 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The trope of a woman having a gay friend in media really gets me sometimes.

      The gay man is always emasculated in some way, and that makes him 'safe' for the women in the story. Meanwhile, this gay man is always second to the woman. He's usually a side-kick, work-assistant, or a submissive best-friend. At the least, she's financially or socially more successful and He's always around to do emasculating things too. So, the message you can draw from this is,

      • Masculinity is inherently wrong and/or dangerous, and makes normal relationships between men and women impossible. It's "all men are rapists"-lite.

      • A gay man, who is believed to neither have true masculinity or femininity, is second class (especially to women around him).

      • Women are the only true friends he can have.

      • For women, emasculating men and having them beneath you is a sign of power and privilege (for her and the gay man apparently)

      • Holy fucking socially-acceptable negative stereotypes, batman!

      But since this trope is often held by women and apparently benefits them, you almost never see it criticized at large.

      [–]xXTheGrapenatorXxMy triggers include Real life and Pastrami Sandwiches 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Being an accessory single-handedly made me hate high school. Not the jocks with dumb questions, not the religious people who "didn't agree with me", not even the idiot young students that made jokes. Just the valley girl crazies who couldn't believe I was gay and didn't want to go shopping and make sassy comments. Then again, they didn't get what bi meant either, so they were pretty unedjucated.

      [–]thebigdonkey 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I didn't make it all the way to the end of the article, but I would have thought that he certainly had the chance to address that as an aside in a 7000 word article. The fact that he didn't makes this just another pandering piece.

      [–]kentuckyfriedBRD 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Let me guess: "Oh my GOD, that's so COOL that you're GAY ... we should totally go shopping and you can help me pick the CUTEST outfits and we can hang out and go for lattes and to that cute little wine bar and I feel safe with you because you're gay and will never develop an awkward crush on me..."

      blah ...

      [–]bencoon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      My sister, of all people, tried to do that with me for a short while after I just sort of sauntered out of the closet. She would actually ask me stuff like which wine went with salmon. How the fuck should I know? I don't even drink alcohol!

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I just don't understand the fascination, I know women who will take pictures of gay men holding hands in public because its "soooo cuuuuute!"

      [–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Which is funny because gays & lesbians have been working the hardest for civil rights in 21st century America.

      [–]FalcunPaunch 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because we're both men, and people who are more oppressed than they are - the two things she's hate the most.

      [–]criss990not racist, can barely run 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (11子コメント)

      Nah, gay men (like myself) have never tolerated their asshattery. Because this type of feminist is the first one to go "OMG UR GAY LOL BE MY GAY BEST FRIEND HAHA DO YOU WANNA SHOP WITH ME I WANT A VIBRATOR HEHE KINKS 4 LYFE"

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      I'm not sure they've grasped that a gay man does more in a day than suck cock, like maybe has a job and a life outside of that.

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      If only I could put "can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" on my resume because I can really suck a dick.

      [–]rgq 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Always classy with a full metal jacket quote

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Why do they call it a blowjob when the primary action is sucking?

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (39子コメント)

      What privilege as a gay man do I have? The privilege to be discriminated by an employer? A doctor? Hell I still can't get married in most states. Because I have sex with other men I'm treated by the medical establishment as a dirty fag with AIDS thanks to a 40 year old policy.

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (14子コメント)

      hey I'm kind of jealous, you have a bulletproof excuse not to donate blood. I just have to make up lies because I hate needles.

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      It's also a reason why I refuse to become an organ donor. What people don't tell you is most gay men are afraid to go to the doctor because of homophobia. Doctors can discriminate and face no legal repercussions. I remember me and another gay male friend of mine were ask by fellow students (who were female Muslims with hijab) if we wanted to give blood during a study session. It was a bit awkward but did educate them. Both my friend and these girls are aspiring doctors. My hope is we opened some minds that day.

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I'm curious, have you actualy experienced homophobia from a doctor? And if so, what would be the source? They know enough about HIV to know what does and doesn't transmit it, so I can't see that being the issue.

      I guess there are always bigots, but you'd have to think that you'd be really ready to not sweat the small stuff when you deal with people who are gushing fluids onto your floor on a daily basis.

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      The stigma is not just from HIV. I think you are giving too much credit to doctors. People of all walks are prejudice for what ever reason. It does not matter what has happened to me. I know talking to other gay men some won't disclose their sexuality in fear of homophobia. Even in big cities it happens. That fear turns into distrust. It's a real and major issue gay men face day to day.

      [–]ZimmerheroI am a shitlord? Yes I am. I am Evil, I am man. 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I'm just wondering why your sexuality would even come up in a doctor's visit outside of say, STD stuff.

      [–]FalcunPaunch 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      For one, and I'm not trying to be gross, but rather pulling from personal experience, when you start shitting blood and you're not sure why.

      You can always say that you're just into pegging or whatever, but there are legitimate reasons to talk about sexual practices with your physician while attempting to diagnose, in my case, chronic digestive tract issues.

      I mean, my doctor has a lesbian daughter, so I feel totally comfortable telling him the truth about my sexuality, but not everyone is so lucky.

      The fears? They might not take the best care of you, and the scariest part is that, as most of us aren't ourselves physicians, we might not know the difference between a doctor trying his or her best, and a homophobe who'd rather we suffer. It might sound outlandish, but it's not uncommon to come across those little bigot-landmines who will try to hurt you when and if they can.

      [–]Twerks4Jesus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      What's funny too is I have that good ab negative shit. Y'all can suck it! :P

      [–]inyouraeroplane 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This might be why my uncle was a doctor in a clinic specifically targeting the LGBT community in Phoenix. Unfortunately, he had other issues and died unexpectedly this spring but seeing his patients find memories of him was a very good tribute. He had HIV and it contributed to his death somewhat.

      Neither Arizona nor Texas (where my family is from) are great with gay anti-discrimination laws and I think he helped as much as he could.

      [–]_Kannon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The first gay kid that came out in my school got lynched, I bet he went home and thought "At least I'm not a girl!".

      [–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Funny, my wife and I go to a gay bar on occassion and neither she nor I ave been given "the stink eye" nor watered down drinks (if anything, gay bars have a rep for pouring a stiff drink).

      We go there occasionally when they have a DJ spinning we like or some friends invite us out.

      I could see a bunch of uptight upper west side bitches being tourists at the local man-meat club getting their panties in a twist when the men don't fall all over themselves for the vagina.

      [–]HANKKKINGSLEY#IDGAC 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (10子コメント)

      tl;dr anyone got cliffs

      [–]a3wagnerMen are shitlords, women are shitlords, and children are SJWs 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Gay men treat women as non-sexual objects; gay men face less discrimination than women; every gay man ever acts like the stereotype because that's what society has told us is okay. I vomited partway through and didn't read the rest.

      [–]levelate 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      gay men face less discrimination than women

      this is a surprisingly common thing among feminists.

      i was having a conversation with a feminist, years ago, who was saying that women are worse off than gay men, because of the attention women get. i had to point out to her that, not so long ago, gay men were being killed for being gay men in the western world.

      these people are willing to throw gay men under the bus, just so they can keep their victim position.

      in closing, don't go into a gay bar expecting to keep your female privilege.

      [–]phanfaretissues for cis-sues 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      in closing, don’t go into a gay bar expecting to keep your female privilege.

      Basically this. In the first part he says that women have to wait and get sassed at the bars for watered-down drinks. That's literally how I (male) am treated at straight bars when I order drinks

      [–]SoldusАлександр Пуш-кин 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It's not even "not so long ago." Gay men still get murdered for being gay. For example, Mark Carson was shot and killed in Greenwich Village about a year ago.

      [–]Torsomu 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      What kept me from coming out for the longest time was the very fact that I don't fit the camp stereotype. I didn't want to be an accessory. This person doesn't seem to even understand gay culture outside of whatever city he lives in.

      [–]waweewoowanGay male partners are double the Patriarchy 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It finally happened, my flair became true.

      [–]RedditisquiteamazingDiscount double check your privilege 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      *clears throat * ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEEEEE!

      [–]ThemiffinsPh.D in Oppression from POC State. 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      "I got treated like a guy would at a straight club, therefore gay people are misogynists!"

      [–]narwhale_97 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Yeah, if straight, objectifying women could get out of my safe place, that would be great. Gay bars are the only safe place I have, and you want to roll up and take it from me? Fuck right off. Gay Bars are the only place where I am the majority.

      I get the appeal that straight women have of gay men. We are the only people in the world who aren't playing an angle to stab you in the back and talk shit about you (Women to women) and will talk to you without trying to get in your pants (Men to women). But at some point it stops being a person talking to a person, and becomes a person talking to an object.

      [–]ttumblrbotsCheck your organic privilege. 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      SnapShots: 1 [?]

      Anyone know an alternative to Readability? Send me a PM!

      [–]dsallen7 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      In my mid-twenties, I learned that taking your female friends to a gay bar is like taking a vegetarian to a butcher shop. There is a lot of meat, a lot of prime cuts, and even a little tripe, but nothing they can eat.

      Followed by:

      the attitude towards women is simple: They are just objects whose function is to serve gay men.

      [–]LaozenProud triggerkin, my pronouns are rape/oppress'/privilegeself. 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      At least if this was written by someone other than a gay male, it could be argued that they lack some of the necessary background to understand why it is that we as gay males feel defensive about our own spaces. Instead, it comes across as finger-wagging moralism clouded by a kind of top-down mentality that if one group is not just kissing the ass of another oppressed group then by god, it's a new form of privilege, and how dare that group with more privilege defend itself? Foucault would have a field day with this bullshit kind of 'totem pole' concept of privilege.

      There is no gay male culture. There are multiple gay male cultures and he's going on a long, whiny tirade about one or two facets of a single example of a culture of, by, and for gay males for not including... not gay males. Ironically he's actually stereotyping other gay males by assuming that what he's seeing at the gay bars he's been to is the definitive culture of gay males. It isn't. It's not even the entirety of gay bar culture, it's just the culture of those specific gay bars, and there are gay bars that cater to all kinds of different tastes with different attitudes towards women, some dismissive & catty, and some welcoming & open.

      That being said, there is one thing that makes most gay men cringe at, and that is having people come into our own spaces telling us that now that we're socially accepted, we've joined straight people in being oppressive for being insular, even though the entire fucking point of rights for LGBT people is gender freedom, both for our partners and ourselves. Part & parcel of that is that in spaces designed by and for men who are interested in men, women may be welcome as guests, but must understand that gay males have precious few spaces of our own and do not take kindly to the concept of others in our space. We put up with straight people constantly, we put our own desires second because we have no other choice, can't we have this one thing?

      [–]punkterminatorShitlord status: gender traitor 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      The last thing we need are more people who shouldn't be at gay bars hanging out at gay bars. Can't we have safe spaces too?

      [–]heavyhebrewThe Patriarchy always rolls a natural Twenty. 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      People who should be at gay bars: people having fun

      People who shouldn't be at gay bars: people shitting on the fun

      [–]livemansleeping 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      stop mansplaining!

      [–]ThemsFoxysFunyuns 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      stop mangaysplaining!

      ftfy

      [–]WylanderukTW: jerking will effect your aim, squeeze slowly... 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Umm but in a gay bar straight women would be like a ashtray on a motorbike, pointless surely?

      I mean going to a gay bar with a gay friend is one thing, but just turning up?

      [–]a3wagnerMen are shitlords, women are shitlords, and children are SJWs 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And they have to wait in line to get a drink, the audacity! They probably have to pay for it and everything!

      [–]walrusnoob 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      gay bars don't cater to women

      MISOGYNY

      [–]FalcunPaunch 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      As a gay man, fucking self-hating queen needs to get some therapy. About three paragraphs in, the sort about gay men only caring about women who are divas, Tony winners, or whatever, I was screaming "homophobe!"

      When I realized the writer was a gay guy, I was sighing, "homophobe."

      [–]BullyWarner 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      She might get dirty looks because the guys are tired of the wannabe sex and the city fag hag types. Just a thought

      [–]ClauderoughlyDestroyer of Feels, Lvl 100 Shitlord 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      No one likes a bar full of fruit flies

      [–]hulkfistingGalaxy-Far-Far-Away-Kin 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is so beautiful. No one is ever safe from the SJW. Keep apologizing, keep trying to be their friend. They'll find a reason to turn on you. None of you are safe

      [–]swampfox20 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      As a gay guy, I can only say one thing: FUCK SJWS

      [–]Zolome1977 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm still upset about this, the author of this article is a self hating gay man, that we as a group have to give up our only spaces because he feels that his friends were not treated properly. I can't imagine why if he's as self righteous as he writes his company must be the same, insufferable in public spaces especially where they aren't fawned over like special snowflakes.

      [–]The7thNomadnellyfag 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      When we talk about gay male privilege, it's important that as gay men, we understand any of us could've been–or currently are–perpetrators of this culture, simply by being.

      Wasn't social justice meant to be about accepting people no matter who or what they are? Wasn't it meant to be about breaking down barriers, misconceptions and people being dehumanised by traditional/conservative values?

      It's most likely the social sphere I live in, but I never hear anything from the traditional/conservative side attacking gays or women. In fact, the only time I hear people being regarded as problematic just for 'existing', comes from the social justice crowd.

      [–]aeschynanthus_spprivilege indicated by trans-3-methyl-2-hexenoic acid 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Clearly, gay men are privileged misogynists as they were present during the important historical moments of the USA.

      [–]WeOwnThePurpleSpot The Vegan World Champion 2014 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Part Jezebel, part SRS, part Sierra Mannie, part TiTP and part /r/thathappened. That article had everything.

      [–]CentripetalAppropriating bear-kin culture 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Sexism = power + prejudice, so in the SJW standards of re-education, gay men can't be misogynist.

      [–]Kikiteno 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Gawker makes Fox News look good.

      [–]vadergeek 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      So bars for the express purpose of getting gay men together aren't fun hangouts for straight women? The horror!

      [–]SunChaoJun 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I'm not attracted to "femmes" because I like masculine guys. That's the whole reason I'm gay in the first place. Saying that I'm discriminating with my dating preferences is like calling someone racist for preferring to date certain races over others. Who the fuck are they to criticize what kind of person I'm attracted to.

      [–]rockidolHead Oppressor of local Patriarchy franchise. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's a dirty secret of a subculture of the gay male world about women: That they're essentially unwelcome, unless they come to us as a Real Housewife, a pop diva, or an Tony award winner–or an unassuming fag hag.

      Oh lord shut the fuck up. So they don't want women to hang around in gay bars and your first assumption is "well they must hate women"? If they EVER want to hang out in a place without women present that must mean they hate women?

      And does this mean that anyone who goes to an all women's gym is misandrist and that anyone who goes to an all boy/all girl college is misogynist/misandrist as well?

      I've read so much whining about men invading women's spaces, I can't say for sure if any of it came from Jezebel or this author specifically but I've seen it a lot.

      Oh and do you honestly think that I a straight man would be very welcome at a gay bar? Well OK I probably would be because those people have probably never met me and don't know that I'm straight, but if I advertised that I was on my shirt (and not bicurious) do you think they'd be welcoming me with open arms?

      [–]wammy71imaginarykink [pronouns: √-1, √-1s, √-1self] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Do people actually read those text vomits?

      [–]GodotIsWaiting4U1/1 white Kithkin Soldier token | tap/taps/tapself 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      NO. The point of a gay bar is so that GAY MEN CAN MEET OTHER GAY MEN.

      STOP INVADING GAY PEOPLE'S SAFE SPACES.

      [–]kubrick2160 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wow... Fuck you "Rohin Guha"...

      [–]criss990not racist, can barely run 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      My toucan's existence has literally been erased from history.

      Only a special kind of idiotic woman could make a gay bar about her. It's specifically for men seeking men. You don't fit in that equation. I wouldn't go to a lesbian bar and bemoan the women there for not finding me attractive.

      Sigh.

      [–]swampfox20 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Straights who crowd gay bars are annoying to say the least. I can't meet anyone sometimes because of the straights there.

      [–]Munkeytoto 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Wow this made me legitimately angry. Who would even bother taking their time to write so much completely fabricated lies and present it as some kind of sick factual report?

      [–]theinsanityPronouns: 伊、佢、其。It's not my job to educate you, shitlord.[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Jezebel columnists, obviously. This claptrap is pretty par for the course for that website.

      [–]LXG_Doge-Fanboy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah. This is Jezebel we are talking about, the same site who made fun of male victims of domestic violence.

      [–]fromthebackofthefilm 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      What the hell are you expecting when you go to a gay bar as a straight woman, not accompanied by your gay male friend but by a bunch of other women? Isn't that "haha let's go to a gay bar for a girls night out and to ogle the gay boys!!" attitude just objectifying gay men as a spectacle or novelty?

      Feminists go to a run of the mill bar and bitch about being hit on. Feminists go to a gay bar and bitch about NOT being hit on. How does anyone win?

      [–]lazorexplosion 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Be Jezebel. Can write "Dirty secrets of the gay male subculture". Can't write "Dirty secrets of the pakistani subculture" about Rotherham.

      [–]MosDafBadgermolekin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Buzzword bingo:

      Objectify
      Privilege
      Male privilege
      Gay male privilege
      ...

      ts;df (too stupid;didn't finish)

      [–]TimeLeopard 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh no, women are being treated like most men are in a straight club?OPPRESSION THIS IS OPPRESSION. People need to get over themselves.

      [–]altacct3techniPOcolour dream-kin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      When we talk about gay male privilege, it's important that as gay men, we understand any of us could've been–or currently are–perpetrators of this culture, simply by being.

      Sorry for my 'being'

      [–]almightybob1I am glass-kin, and thus trans*parent 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Holy shit.

      I learned that taking your female friends to a gay bar is like taking a vegetarian to a butcher shop. There is a lot of meat, a lot of prime cuts, and even a little tripe, but nothing they can eat.

      [...]

      the attitude towards women is simple: They are just objects whose function is to serve gay men.

      Just... holy shit. How can someone write those two sentences in the same article and not have their brain explode all over the keyboard from the sheer effort of maintaining such cognitive dissonance.

      [–]Mr_Knucklesshiplord, prounouns: captain, captains, captainself 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Look at the comments! Lapping it up.

      Thank you for posting this!!!!!!

      Fuck off

      [–]Rubykubycishet translesbian 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      If we live in the wrong cities, we will be ostracized and forced to retreat into the closet. Sure, we can't hold our boyfriends' hands in public for fear of getting heckled or assaulted on the street; we can't get married in more than half of the U.S. We may not enjoy many advantages our straight brethren do, but as another writer on the Daily Kos points out, we are still less likely to get profiled against for being overweight when interviewing for jobs, don't have to deal with putting on make up or getting our hair done, and aren't likely to have opinions written off as "women's troubles."

      Um... Fuck off?

      [–]Sordak 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      GAY MALE PRIVILEGE

      I could not make it past that. Here is some fucking horseshoe theory in action.

      I just hope so badly that they will go so extreme that it will piss people off so much that we can finaly be DONE with all of that "Its your privilege" bullshit. for good.

      [–]StregenJerk-kin off 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ... And I imagine that guys in lesbian clubs would get so much positive attention. Or would they be misogynist in the first place for 'invading a safe space for wxmyn'?

      [–]MoontowToo oppressed to flair 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The day gay men became overprivileged

      2014-09-06 never forget

      [–]SourceFedNerdd 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      this was and continues to happen

      Bad grammar is bad.

      [–]rsresnorShit/Shitlord/Shitlordself 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well this really reinforces the idea that radical SJWs are just out to get attention. This is just about some selfish women being upset because they aren't the focus in the gay male community. To put it in their words: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WOMENZ??!!

      As a side note:

      ...ours is still a culture that pays women and men unequally.

      Culture doesn't decide people's wages, that's just supply and demand within the bounds of wage regulations (which don't allow an employer to pay unequal amounts for equal work).

      [–]Citizen_OFabulous Master of the Gay White Cis Male Patriarchy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      In my earliest days of being out of the closet–and among women–I've definitely been that jerk in the room that feigned ignorance about female anatomy

      Yeah...I'm totally a jerk because I'm a guy interested in guys and have no idea how vaginas work.

      Seriously, if you're not a doctor and have no desire to manipulate the other sex's genitals...why would you know a whole lot about their anatomy?

      'tis no feign on my part.

      [–]Zolome1977 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I think it's in part because there are individuals out there that just don't grasp that gay men are not interested in them sexually or romantically. It just does not compute that anyone might not be interested on them that way.

      [–]Zolome1977 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This article is so beyond stupid that I it's just laughable. Fuck SJWs and all their stupid friends.

      [–]thatusernameisal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What the fuck, reading shit like that makes me feel desperate about the future of humanity, "gay male privilege" I can't even can't even...

      [–]FoxRaptixPronouns: Don't/Stop/Believing 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I never thought the fag hag thing referenced women serving gay men? Wasn't it the other way around, women using gay men? Isn't that where the term originated from?

      also why would you take a large group of women to a gay bar and then wonder why no one was catering to your group

      [–]PREPAREyourANGUSCthulu-kin (Pronouns: Cthu/Cthus/Cthuself) 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Straight men should die. Gay men should die. Bisexual men should die.

      ???????