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Well... Niko went and got himself shadowbanned.META (self.OutreachHPG)

StandingCowIslander が 投稿

http://nullprogram.com/am-i-shadowbanned/#PGI_Niko

Guess he shoulda read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowBan/comments/1x92jy/an_unofficial_guide_on_how_to_avoid_being/

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskModerators/comments/2g0cxv/subreddit_run_by_developers_violating_reddiquette/

Let this be a lesson, don't try and censor/control the internet.

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[–]Jman5QQ Mercs 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (9子コメント)

They should have done what Blizzard does. Secretly tell a couple of trusted redditors prior to announcing so that they can create the subreddit and make sure it never gets hijacked.

[–]Eagle_FalconhawkAntares Scorpions 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I know, right? Such an obvious solution. Lesson learned (maybe).

[–]babboaThe Fancymen 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is already a bit of mistrust floating around in regards to the relationship some believe exists between certain members of the commity and the devs, so you can only imagine the pitchforks that would ave been out if they had done this.

[–]dpidcoe 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Plus PGI literally can't trust anyone. They banned that guy who sent them the $500 cake and bought the gold mech after he dared to make a single negative comment.

If you can't trust your biggest supporters to never say anything negative, then who can you trust except yourself?

[–]AFormidableContender"GridiroN" 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Do you have a link for this?

[–]dpidcoe 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Here's the cake in question: http://www.reddit.com/r/mwo/comments/1x0a0p/

Unfortunately I don't remember the name of the guy who sent it atm (it's late, just got home from 12 hours of classes, going to sleep in a few minutes), but he switched sides after he asked an uncomfortable question on twitter and found himself "accidentally" blocked on twitter and his forum account "accidentally" banned.

If that doesn't ring any bells (and no one else decides to help me out), I'll try and search the thread out for you tomorrow.

[–]TKSaxHouse Marik 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imperious

[–]dpidcoe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you remember his reddit name by chance though? I remember there was a thread going about him in mwo and he posted in it. I just don't remember enough details to narrow down a google search to not be flooded with irrelevant results.

[–]Eagle_FalconhawkAntares Scorpions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Scoff..... pitchforks? Their pitchforks would be nothing more than knives at a gunfight compared to the mighty strength of THE BAN-HAMMER.

WHOEVER HOLDS THE BAN-HAMMER, IF HE BE WORTHY, SHALL POSSESS THE POWER OF THOR NIKO.

THE BANNINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES.

[–]Kin3ticX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hereby nominate Jman as super super trusted, you hunchback vermin!

[–]HoodJK 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (18子コメント)

I said yesterday that having PGI moderate their own subreddit just looked bad. I didn't know it was actually against the rules here. Given that all posts other than those started by Niko have been deleted, it turns out that it's bad in practice, too. PGI just seems to go too overboard with their moderation.

[–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (11子コメント)

It can be allowed if the intent of the owner/mods is in accordance to what reddit is about, but PGI is atm using it as their advertising platform, which is not what reddit is about. If other people post their new shit because they think it's awesome and should be shared, no problems, but if all posts there are posts linking to their own product, that's just self advertising and reddit don't dig that.

onGamers for example was banned for posting too much of their shit by their own staff and then upvote ringing them to be shown on /r/starcraft and /r/leagueoflegends, because page one time on the massive subs brings a lot of network traffic to your site, aka brings in the revenue, but reddit doesn't like this.

A subreddit should not look like this

[–]Veneroso 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah exactly. I mean if you owned a mod or project, reddit is a good way for feedback. But you can't just go deleting/hiding comments that you don't agree with.

[–]Modo44Clan Ghost Bear 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

if all posts there are posts linking to their own product, that's just self advertising and reddit don't dig that.

More to the point, reddit gets paid for that.

[–]Skov 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

If he is the top mod/creator of that subreddit, did he just kill the official r/Transverse? If he is the only mod and he is shadowbanned, no one can do anything with that subreddit. I think that's how it works. He should have had the NGNG guys help him AstroTurf. Russ and Bryan must be pissed right now.

[–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeap he has killed the official sub reddit until reddit admins release it, and other redditors can request ownership to it, so it could end up basicly in anyone's hands, which ofc is better than it being on PGI's hands.

[–]insaneHoshi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He should have had the NGNG guys help him AstroTurf

Which is weird about reddits decision. Do they prefer astroturfing, to good old marketing? At least with r/transverse we knew who the mods were, and knew their biases.

[–]NeuralNos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

over at /r/redditrequest there is a thread for new mods to take ownership. Its looking like /u/Phaelon74 might take over. All sort of up in the air right now; only certain thing is that PGI should not be trusted with any moderation power. Look at their own forums, they even ban people for saying negative things about them on Facebook and other sites by using the credit card information they have to link forum usernames with real names.

[–]Skov 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good thing I purchase everything online with prepaid cards and a fake name.

[–]rusticatedcharm 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I specifically said the same thing about a month ago relating to all the NGNGtv stuff that /u/seanlang was posting. Seems like PGI didn't pay attention. My statements may have been unpopular on this subreddit, but they are official reddit policies. I didn't have anything to do with this recent bout of bannings. I wish PGI employees had heeded my warnings so that another PR mishap could be avoided. This game has had such a rocky relationship with its fanbase, it'd be nice to just have smooth sailing for a while.

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      [–]CateranEnforcer 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (66子コメント)

      These aren't the MWO forums where you can ban users at a whim. This is just beyond low. I can't believe they even attempted this.

      [–]XANi_ 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (65子コメント)

      I'd be more suprised if they didn't try to do that...

      [–]pgi_kbergSenior Systems Engineer 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (71子コメント)

      Test

      [–]VillzHouse Of Lords Co Founder (Lord #1) 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      #SAVEKBERG

      [–]pgi_kbergSenior Systems Engineer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Villz, are you also shadowbanned?! D:

      I guess we can be shadowbanned buddies.

      #SAVEVILLZ

      [–]VillzHouse Of Lords Co Founder (Lord #1) 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      yes sir. I was shadow banned alongggg time ago.

      [–]VictorMorson 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Karl, want us to start writing CIG and telling them what a cool guy you've been? You might be needing a new job soon and I'm sure they'd love to have a highly experienced Crysis network coder.

      You don't deserve to go down with this ship.

      [–]VillzHouse Of Lords Co Founder (Lord #1) 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      HoL will all sign that document.

      [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar[M] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (53子コメント)

      Aaaaaand you're shadowbanned too.

      Looks like they just shadowbanned errbody.

      That ain't right. :(

      [–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      That's what reddit does when a company or equivalent abuses reddit, they don't pussyfoot around it they ban the whole shitshow and let them back if they fix their shit.

      [–]heavy_metal_flautist 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      But... we like kberg, he's not a douche.

      [–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      yea well, what's reddit supposed to do when a corporation tries to fuck with it? ban only X Y Z, well the corp puts A B C on the job then, so you have later ban A B C and we move on to D E F...fuck it, ban the whole corp and if they show they can abide by the rules, they might get their accounts back.

      I'm sure there's decent people working in PGI and I have no ill will towards them personally, but they work under the tag PGI and PGI has fucked the community up the rear a couple few times too many.

      [–]pgi_kbergSenior Systems Engineer 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Thanks for confirming Siri.. o7. Unfortunate situation, this.

      [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar[M] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Fireye is working on setting up Automoderator to...well, automoderate and approve your posts, so at least on this sub, you shouldn't be impacted.

      [–]GmanacusStory Time! 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Is there a word for bizarro-frisson?

      Devs: Hey, I think I found a bug. Can anyone help?

      Players: Thank you for alerting us to this issue. We have our engineers examining the problem and working on a solution.

      O.o

      [–]Dei-Ex-MachinaIsengrim 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Probably will get fixed faster than it would if the places were swapped. =P

      [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Less than an hour from problem report to Automoderator implementation, so...yes? :D

      [–]Fireye[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      First go-around at having automod auto-approve PGI posts has been implemented, we'll add more functionality to automod in the future, if we need it.

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        [–]InertiamanSC 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's not unfortunate that your employers hired a maladjusted troll to manage your PR. It's bad judgement.

        For what little it's worth though, I'm in agreement with most that your communication has been the only station worth tuning into in the last three years without exception.

        [–]FirebeyerSteel Jaguar 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        <3 Still love for you Karl. You can always play with Clan Bob Saget. Just bring some of them cbillz with ya ;)

        [–]Kin3ticX 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (18子コメント)

        did they just ban everything with a PGI_?

        [–]TKSaxHouse Marik 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (15子コメント)

        Looks like it... /u/pgi_kberg /u/pgi_fox

        [–]Kin3ticX 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (14子コメント)

        they went way our of their way to also ban russ_bullock. Did they come into the HPGs flair system to identify all of PGI?

        [–]oblivioustofun 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        They all logon from PGI offices and probably all share 1 IP address.

        [–]Kin3ticX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        ahh, that makes sense. I didnt know it worked off IP since I have seen lots of people skirt bans with alt accounts.

        [–]aNonSapient 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They can search by IP and then shadowban all those that have used it.

        [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        They probably just banned the mods of their new game's sub

        [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        No, kberg, fox, and russ weren't on the mod list for /r/transverse.

        [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Interesting. Seems a bit heavy handed to me.

        Wasnt there another sub, or am I imagining things?

        [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        There's /r/transversegame, but that just redirects to /r/transverse, and I'm pretty sure they weren't associated with that either.

        [–]AdiuvoHouse of Lords (twitch.tv/mfmadiuvo) 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        You linking it is the first time I've looked at the subreddit. Holy shit it's no wonder he got shadowbanned - that's pure blogspam!

        [–]TKSaxHouse Marik 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Oh man.... Niko should have red the reddit rules for self promotion...

        I assume it was easy to just search for PGI_ and shadowban them....

        [–]xMWHOx 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Seems like a tactic used by Niko in the past.

        [–]heavy_metal_flautist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Just remember Layhe Piggy, what comes around is all around.

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          [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Dang. He was one of the few that was not only not shitty at his job, but excellent at it.

          [–]SirdubdubFRR- 5th Drakøns 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Can we assign a mod to do nothing but approve Karl's posts?

          [–]Fireye 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          We can use automoderator to do something like that.

          [–]SirdubdubFRR- 5th Drakøns 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Badass

          [–]UwasaWayaKell Hounds 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          No, it's not right. Whatever they're doing with Traverse shouldn't be affecting us over here. It's just kicking us while we're down.

          The community needs to stop being smug about this and realize that this is in no way a good thing.

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            [–]xMWHOx 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Karl we still love yeah no matter how badly Niko ruin's PGI's reputation.

            [–]pgi_bucktonGameplay Programmer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            testing your test

            [–]TheRoadbeer 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Hey Karl,

            Hope all is well and I miss our interactions.

            Leave that sinking ship buddy, you're too talented for PGI.

            [–]ScurroClan Wolf 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Leave that sinking ship buddy

            Source?

            [–]Dont_care_ -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Gotta love when you start getting downvoted for asking a source to a claim.

            [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Its kind of stupid to ask for the source for a subjective opinion.

            [–]Salient0ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            looks like a few of them survived the purge, better contact reddit asap.

            [–]psikezAntares Scorpions 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            <3

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              [–]KalamandoFancymen / House of Spuds "Lord Spud" Incarnate / GG SPUDS™ 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              K well, that's their subreddit, and ultimately that is on their heads. Can't do such things now on here can ya? ;)

              No but really, I'm iffy about that game. While I wish PGI the best (truly), I've already deposited $60 on a space sim (SC) and I'll see how that goes, which is so far so good. Any money I want to spend on PGI will be on MWO and nothing else.

              [–]Homeless-BillQQ Mercs 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (29子コメント)

              AHAHAHAHAHAHA! This just gets better every day. What a shit-show. On the other hand, this means more work for me. I'm not so sure it's worth the one-time amusement.

              [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Don't lie, you know it is ;-)

              [–]aNonSapient 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (26子コメント)

              Curiosity -- Have Niko et al been trying to post and y'all haven't approved them, or did they just go turtle mode?

              [–]Homeless-BillQQ Mercs[M] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (23子コメント)

              I assume they're scrambling for a plan. Either way, /u/Fireye is working on getting our automoderator to approve their posts so we don't have to.

              [–]SirdubdubFRR- 5th Drakøns 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (22子コメント)

              Are you going to let Niko through the automod? Even with all this craziness it seems less than ideal for everyone to have the CM banned from the sub.

              [–]Homeless-BillQQ Mercs[M] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (21子コメント)

              All PGI employees, including Niko, will be allowed through the automoderator. Anyone we miss will be manually approved and added to the list. We have no intention of letting this debacle affect Outreach.

              [–]Jedi_OutcastBlack Gorgons 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              We have no intention of letting this debacle affect Outreach.

              This is why I really like you Outreach mods.

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                  [–]Sandpit_RMAWhite Knight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  just let this one go man, it'll burn itself out eventually but not for a bit and not before there's been a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooot more fun had

                  [–]Merdrach 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  Wh00ps-a-daisy.

                  On the other hand, shit. Now he can't communicate with us here.

                  [–]Eagle_FalconhawkAntares Scorpions 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  He can, it just means the mods have to go in and manually approve each of his posts... otherwise known as "the Atkinson".

                  [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar[M] 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Villz did it first (tm).

                  [–]KalamandoFancymen / House of Spuds "Lord Spud" Incarnate / GG SPUDS™ 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Erm..

                  GGCLOSE™ to Niko?

                  [–]Eagle_FalconhawkAntares Scorpions 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Ha - Knowing Villz, I'm sure he'll be glad you clarified to give credit where it's due.

                  :)

                  [–]VillzHouse Of Lords Co Founder (Lord #1) 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  +1

                  [–]GrimlockONESwords of Kentares 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  AKA the ScumlockONE

                  [–]Merdrach 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I have a creeping doubt that this will provide much incentive for him to come here with any more frequency than he absolutely has to. Am undecided as to my feelings on this.

                  [–]SirdubdubFRR- 5th Drakøns 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                  Niko's Response

                  [–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I love how he misses the point that he was mass advertising a product from his company which gets you banned faster than any goons conspiracy or whatever...

                  lol, and Heffay is the sole person liking niko's post :D

                  [–]TheRoadbeer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  OMG,

                  This just keeps getting better. There's an old saying about digging a hole that you're standing in, but I can't remember the exact wording at the moment

                  I'm laughing too hard.

                  [–]DrunkCanuck69QQ Mercs Beer for the Beer God 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The old addage is that you make your own bed, you better damn well lay in it.

                  [–]spajn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  This is only getting better and better... I don't need to play PGI games anymore for entertainment I can just follow up on their latest drama and have a laugh... The whole internet is laughing at them as we speak.

                  [–]dtf-kev 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  After reading that post just stop Niko, just stop. I love BT. I'm afraid I don't agree with most anything you say.

                  [–]Phaelon74 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I don't have access to their site from here, can you link pictures or copy/paste what was said?

                  [–]GenKumon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Niko says he sent a message to the Reddit admins begging to be unbanned, and blames the whole thing on a Goon conspiracy. Only person to like Niko's post is Heffay. Six pages of responses and counting, zero are supportive.

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                    [–]TricepticonSwords of Kentares 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Lmao this game, community and pgi are all a joke.

                    [–]ilovesharkpeopleHouse Liao 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    That has to be one of the most absurdly dumb things he's done in some time.

                    I get that they're panicking that no one is backing transverse and there's a hate-train going, but wow that is a stupid move.

                    [–]sweetcheeksanta 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    One reason we didn't like IGP was because of their mods; they all were on a power trip. Apparently some of us have forgotten who hired Niko in the first place. Just because he switched sides doesn't make him a different person. With Russ free to talk more and Niko's recent actions, he's quickly making himself replaceable.

                    [–]So1ahma 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    lol

                    [–]GmanacusStory Time! 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    tl;dr Don't spam, shill, doxx, brigade, stalk, game or pedirast.

                    Sounds like a few shit-posters I know.

                    [–]va_wanderer 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I'm guessing that because Niko had PGI staff vetted for their pet reddit, the admins logically stopped anyone that was in the same company lest they just switch control to a PGI-controlled account.

                    That it created collateral damage here is a sad thing, but it really is Niko's fault for utterly ignoring Reddit's rules in the first place.

                    [–]PGI_JonPGI Web Dev 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                    Testing, one-two-three

                    [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar[M] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Yeah....you're shadowbanned as well.

                    [–]ArquinsielWord of Lowtax 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    That's a shame. Other people there shouldn't get tarred with Niko's brush.

                    [–]dtf-kev 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Agree'd

                    [–]UwasaWayaKell Hounds 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    And none of them should be banned here. Since it has nothing to do with this subreddit. We need this communication.

                    [–]ArquinsielWord of Lowtax -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I've said my piece about that to Homeless-Bill and he's doing things differently than I would, as is his right.

                    [–]va_wanderer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Live and direct, Jon.

                    [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar[M] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    (I approved his posts so that you could see them)

                    [–]va_wanderer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Whoops. OK, you're still banned. Bummer.

                    [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Just in case you missed the other replies, Fireye is currently setting up Automoderator to auto-approve your posts.

                    [–]RalphyNoPantsSQUAWK 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I still see you but cannot message you.

                    Thank you very much for your help last weekend, I am no longer going through Germany. Not that great but still loads better.

                    [–]Kippeth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    You will be remembered.

                    [–]BlazeOn_MWOLone Wolf 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (21子コメント)

                    What exactly is a shadow-ban? How is it different from a normal ban?

                    [–]KanajashiClan Nova Cat 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                    Its a ban where person being banned cant tell that it has happened. They can still see their posts and their upvotes/downvotes but it doesnt show up for other users. Its so people dont realize they have been banned and dont go making alts to continue their actions.

                    [–]vox_serpentisIslander 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    Shadowbans leave their content intact, and they can still post but it has to be approved by moderators of the subreddits. Full bans delete accounts entirely.

                    At least, I think.

                    [–]rakgitarmenraksarmory.blogspot.com 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    They can still post and use Reddit as usual, but nobody can see their posts until they're approved. It's a silent ban of some sort.

                    [–]BlazeOn_MWOLone Wolf 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Thanks!

                    [–]Vereist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    And since all of the mods were shadow banned, there's no one that can approve new posts for their own sub.

                    [–]SupersoundsOf the 70's - kbilly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Not sure that's how it works though. I understand that you can still see all your stuff, just no one else can while that account is in a shadowban. I bet they can still manipulate their sub, but I don't have solid information on that.

                    [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Normal bans are implemented by a subreddit's moderator team for whatever they deem disruptive according to their subreddit rules, and prevent the account from posting to that subreddit only. It does not affect that account anywhere else.

                    Shadowbans are done by Reddit Admins (or in some cases automated), and are for breaking global site rules. You can still post, but they will only show up if they are manually approved by the subreddit moderators.

                    [–]heavy_metal_flautist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    In the words of Matt Serra, "Good. Fuck him."

                    [–]xMWHOx 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    I think Niko got a taste of his own medicine. You can't ban people from 3rd party sites or censor the internet. He went too far.

                    [–]PrometheusTNOGolden Foxes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    No one is forced to participate in a subreddit. And if the community feels it needs a new voice, they will make a new subreddit. We've seen this happen first-hand with THIS community.

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                      [–]VictorMorson 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Oh, the irony of the guy who bans everyone for years and constantly tries to censor the internet, while claiming people are breaking rules when they aren't, being banned for breaking rules running what is looking more and more like a scam project.

                      KARMA, BITCHES.

                      [–]dtf-kev 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      One thing that differs other community managers from Niko are responses that try to bait people and stir up not needed drama. Most community managers make a post and let community discuss. If people agree cool, if people disagree cool. Personal attacks get moderated out and nothing more. Everything else is left to play out. Niko on the other hand will cherry pick through EVERY RESPONSE even going as far as REPLYING TO TROLL POSTS just to raise emotions. Calling customers "goons" and tweeting that banning people is the "high point of your career" is just down right rude, and wrong. The negitave effect you have on your company is horrible. I would of pulled you out of the community and had you on coffee duty long ago. Be a community manager and lead by example, don't just be another one of us trolls. Sometimes, things are better left unsaid.

                      [–]CongzillaAntares Scorpions 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      So let me get this straight. PGI pays someone to be the community manager that doesn't even know how one of the largest community websites in the world works and was dumb enough to not even use an alt account to create the sub?

                      [–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yes. Surprised?

                      [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I can't believe this guy gets paid to fuck up this badly over and over.

                      [–]sporkhandsknifemouth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      whoopsiedoodle!

                      [–]Treff 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      You'd think they would read up on the rules of a platform before using it for their business... Then again, there's little they can do (read: fuck up) to surprise me anymore.

                      [–]FirebeyerSteel Jaguar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      lol at least he checked

                      http://www.reddit.com/r/ShadowBan/comments/2g0mk9/am_i_shadowbanned/

                      [–]PrometheusTNOGolden Foxes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Shadowbanned for a Reddiquette violation??? There would be 4 people allowed on Reddit if they enforced all of Please Don't.

                      I feel like something else happened.

                      [–]DaemirErish - Sanguine Tigers 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      What happened is that reddit don't like when a company uses reddit to advertise a product in this manner

                      [–]SirPseudonymous 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      There are "rules", that nobody really gives the slightest shit about, and then there are "RULES", that result in summary shadowbans. The "RULES" apply to vote rigging/sockpuppeting, doxxing, and attempts to use Reddit as an advertising platform without paying it for the privilege.

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                        [–]trashkThe Fancymen 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                        Man there is so much /r/mwo here now. So much silliness here lately and these old familiar names we left behind.

                        I can't wait for the upvote/downvote brigades settle down.

                        EDIT: This is primarily from a differing point of view. /r/mwo links have a TMZ/Scandalous sort of feel and /r/OutreachHPG have a sunnier/white knight point of view.

                        [–]ScurroClan Wolf 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                        Can we get less shit talking and name calling and more discussions of mechwarrior?

                        [–]GrifthinThe Fancymen 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                        That would be amazing. But People are just so fucking salty - I wish all of these fucking PGI hitler threads would be stuck in 1 thread. Let people vent if they want to vent, but I'm sick of seeing it in every fucking post.

                        [–]UwasaWayaKell Hounds 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        It's pissing me off. All of a sudden we have these random users decrying literally every tiny thing that happens that could be construed as negative.

                        All I want to do is trade builds and play some damned MechWarrior. If PGI wants to make a new game, great. It's not going to stop me from playing MWO.

                        [–]ScurroClan Wolf 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        I'm trying to not be a "white knight". I've played MWO since closed beta. The game has a lot of faults, most of which the developer has already addressed as "working on it".

                        I enjoy the game. The game is free. Once an issue has been brought up and discussed are we not able to move on after the developer has acknowledged it?

                        [–]ezincuntrollBladeSplint 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        No, because people like the Mechwarrior franchise to the point of becoming captain of the butthurt brigade the second something goes wrong. Everyone needs to have some god damn patience, at least PGI is moving in the right direction, albeit slowly. Blizzard completely fucked over all of Starcraft 2 with a single expansion, and their numbers have been dropping ever since.

                        [–]SiriothraxSteel Jaguar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Blizzard completely fucked over all of Starcraft 2 with a single expansion

                        As someone who only occasionally watches SC2 replays, would you mind elaborating on the issues?

                        [–]ezincuntrollBladeSplint 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I used to play Zerg, so take all of what I'm saying from a Zerg perspective. Half the fun of playing Starcraft for many, many people was the fast play and the fact that one minor mistake could be life-or-death. With the Heart of the Swam release came a number of units that were specifically designed to slow down the game. Protoss getting rushed early? No problem, just go ahead and make your base into a turret. Need some Zerg defenses? Throw down some swarm hosts and extend the game time by an hour. Terran was always turtle-y but got the widow mine, which just added to the long list of shit that made Terran kinda stupid.

                        Long story short, they all but eliminated fast, early game pushes and invalidated one of my favorite plays (4-5 minute roach pushes). Wings of Liberty was a much better multiplayer game.

                        [–]AFormidableContender"GridiroN" 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It also radically increased the number of build times, and logistics you had to plan for on top of the fact that wings of liberty was already a difficult game to play. You only felt like you knew how to judge situations by diamond league, and all the new units made throws of fortune way more likely.

                        [–]GrifthinThe Fancymen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Aparantely not. I just wish the mods would make a "mega sticky" thread like the League of legends subreddit does when alot of people are discussing the same shit over and over. Let people vent there for a week/month whatever. Keeps the rest of the sub on topic without balance and mech discussions having stupid comments about trolling social media etc.

                        [–]ezincuntrollBladeSplint 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        They did, there's a big thread at the top of the sub. People keep posting new shit anyway because they like hearing their own voice.

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                          [–]nutlink 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Perhaps they can go back to using their own forums for news and updates again? Seems pretty damn stupid to be dividing information between here, Twitter, NGNG, and (rarely) their own forums.

                          [–]ezincuntrollBladeSplint 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I would rather they physically mail envelopes with game updates than have to go back to the mwo forums. Even after the massive amount of moderation its still a gigantic sea of brown.

                          [–]DustmuffinsSnow Raven 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          They just wanted to stifle opinions that they don't agree with. They realized their shit wouldn't fly if people got the truth.

                          [–]RebasKradd 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Well, shit. According to those rules, about twenty other people should be banned from THIS sub.

                          [–]PrometheusTNOGolden Foxes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Exactly. Please Don't.

                          [–]Cerlin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Id love more moderation here when it comes to " Please dont Be (intentionally) rude at all"

                          [–]GrimlockONESwords of Kentares 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I believe this video is in order

                          [–]JesusSaidSoThe Blackhearts 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                          Wow, so what rules did he violate?

                          [–]EdibleBug 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Per Reddiquette: Please don't: Take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of reddit.

                          Trying to actively control who gets to say what about their games.

                          [–]JesusSaidSoThe Blackhearts 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yep, that looks like a direct violation. Man, that kinda sucks.

                          [–]FlareHeartClan Nova Cat 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                          Please don't: Take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of reddit.

                          PGI Created a /r/transverse subreddit.

                          [–]insaneHoshi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                          biases

                          I wonder why that r/gaming mod in the Zoe Quinn scandal hasn't been banned?

                          [–]ArmyofWonClan Ghost Ghost 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Huh. Well I guess this is a thing. Would it be possible to be un-shadowbanned? Or are new accounts in order?

                          [–]Fireye 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Their accounts have been set to auto-approved using /u/Automoderator. So, at least in the /r/OutreachHPG subreddit, it acts as if they were never shadowbanned.

                          [–]ArmyofWonClan Ghost Ghost 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          yeah, but you can no longer send PMs to any of the accounts anymore...

                          [–]AFormidableContender"GridiroN" 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Anyone feel like contributing some actual content to this post and either explain what's happened, or link something...?

                          [–]VictorMorson 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/170725-regarding-reddit/page__p__3707950#entry3707950

                          Niko tried to lock the Transverse forum so only PGI and pro-PGI people could make posts, against their terms of service, among other things. It bit him on the ass and his first reaction was to threaten to "get around the ban" and try again.

                          He's never, ever, ever coming back.

                          [–]TheRoadbeer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Grumpy cat says good.

                          Try to control the interwebz from being mean about your shit product, shit moderation and shit PR.

                          That's what you get.

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