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What the fuck Get___Fucked? You're the moderator of this subreddit? (imgur.com)

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[–]KvnroachXXX 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Why don't you have a seat right over there"

xChris Hansenx

[–]xxLEGIT360NOSCOPESxx 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

xChris Hansenx

[–]KvnroachXXX 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perfect

[–]anthonygiard 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

get fucked get___fucked

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll get right on that.

[–]IsolatedWolfXXX 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh shit...OH SHIT!! Called out!

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Howdy!

[–]IUsedToBeZed22h2o 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Seems they just mod a bunch of random subs, and spend most of their time submitting videos of girls fighting. Can we de-mod them?

[–]heinbot 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dudes a clown for sure.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally a clown for keeping subs active that he moderates!

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. There's lots of examples of mods who are not suitable for the subreddits they run for various reasons. For example, the original XKCD subreddit has a mod that is complete douche, frequents /r/TheRedPill, etc., and even the creator of XKCD himself spoke out against the guy.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No you cannot.

[–]carpisxxx 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (14子コメント)

im more uncomfortable that he posts a lot of girl fights and amateur fights from liveleak

[–]JakeBeatsHaveheart[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I know right? What a sick fuck. This was the most tame of his posts. "Ghetto girls mush faces in" what a creep.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

While they are a minority, there's definitely some violent and biggoted people who claim straight edge. It's these people who tend to be the more militant sxe kids out there. And seeing one of them break edge, turn out to be misogynistic and promote violence makes sense to me.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not misogynistic at all. One of the few people in Chicago years ago promoting girls in straight edge. That just happens to be a subreddit I moderate.

But please tell me more about how you know me as a person off of this site.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You spend your time spreading videos of women fighting and advertising a subreddit dedicated to this purpose. We're not talking about some professional athletes competing but about random encounters.

When you post videos of men and women fighting, I find this disgusting. When you focus specifically on women, I find this disgusting and misogynistic.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think you get what misogyny is then unfortunately. It's loosely defined as hating women just because they are women. Posting in a sub that has women fighting does not mean I am a woman hater. Did you also notice that I moderate /r/amateurfights? There are many posts in there of just men fighting. Does that mean I hate men too? You're logic is flawed.

I do not hold any prejudice against women in my life. Trying to say I'm a misogynist solely based on one sub I moderate is unrealistic.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As I said already: when you focus on both genders, I find it just disgusting without the misogyny. But the dedicated effort you put into "girl" fights in particular reeks of having issues when it comes to women.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've only dedicated time to girl fights recently because I was asked to take it over. It's a common interest sub with amateurfights and it's an opportunity to grow both at the same time. I posted a TON of videos just trying to get the sub back on it's feet and I eased off. I don't have any underlying love for girls fighting. That's just how the cards fell with moderating. I don't "reek" of having women problems. Look at my comment history and you will find zero evidence of that.

[–]stepsxahead 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

B-b-b-busted!

[–]halflitfluorescentsXXX 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Crooked edge and a crooked smile.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The X on your hand will never be there in your heart!

[–]memorylayneHeartattaCk 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sell out!

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's funny. Get Fucked was strict about his definition of straight edge once during a discussion about my "drink once a year" practice. While I perfectly understand why many (most) straight edge kids would consider what I do bullshit, it turns out that the person who reacted the worst is someone who drinks regularly.

P.S. Had a quick look at his posting history... Seems like a genuinely dislikeable person.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, I'm totally dis-likeable because I broke edge.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, you're the victim :)

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally.

[–]endnote 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't think any of the mods have been active on this subreddit for ages. I'd love to get a new mod team going.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just because you don't see them being active doesn't mean they are not doing their job. As long as there's no complaints about things they should be doing, I see no reason to want all three of them replaced.

[–]endnote 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm used to mods being active, and based on the amount of "am I straightedge posts" left up, I figured they weren't doing much of anything with the sub.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fair enough. But these posts have been present for years, and since the sub is not particularly active, I'd rather have this content than no content at all.

I understand why you would rather not see them on the front page though.

[–]endnote 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not active because we have nothing going on. Which, maybe I'll try to help now that I'm through my wedding and honeymoon. I've got a couple of projects in the works, but if there is interest, I'll help put something together.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been active here, you just don't see it unfortunately. I broke edge after 15 years so I didn't feel completely comfortable with scouring straight edge forums for posts anymore.

I figured one of these posts would come up eventually so here I am.

[–]serpicowasrightectomahawk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/59pj4.gif

[–]JohnFoxpoint 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I'd love to hear his response.

But, blindly, in his defense, some originators of edge did not intend on the movement to be about pure abstinence. The Edge movement may have been originated to keep drugs, alcohol, and sex from running our lives. In that definition, the occasional beer is in no way "breaking." Of course, most of us abstain completely nowadays.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I've been straight edge for 15 years. To me, if you take one drink of alcohol or one puff of a cig. You are not straight edge.

That is because to me, there is no further discussion about being straight edge if you drink. It's black and white. If you drink, you're not straight edge. I don't care what other excuses you bring up to validate it to yourself because they are all voided by the fact that you drink.

His words.

In his defense, perhaps he broke edge but was still a responsible mod, which is perfectly possible, so he did not want to abandon the subreddit. Which kinda makes sense.

[–]JohnFoxpoint 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good detective work /u/xtfftc. I hope he responds. I'm ok with a non-edge person modding, but then again, I'm not very active

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Responding. Not edge anymore. Still modding. Me being edge or not edge has nothing to do with me being a decent mod and I don't think me being edge affects the work I've done here.

[–]JakeBeatsHaveheart[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What a stupid fuck. His entire post history is creepy and violent. Shit pissed me off

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes, you know me by my post history. I moderate a few fight subs and I'm a stupid fuck for keeping them active. How terrible of me.

[–]MDNietzscheYouthFist 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wow you're truly the fucking white knight the internet needs. Good fucking on you for keeping alive a pathetic and creepy subreddit.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly, everyone keeps saying that, what is creepy about posting videos to related subs? I'm not posting in creep shots or jailbait or any of the like subs. It's girls fighting. That's it.

[–]MDNietzscheYouthFist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah see you kind of contradicted yourself there. Posting a creepy video anywhere is creepy regardless of where you post it. I don't care if the subreddit is related and I don't think I even care about this.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That makes no sense. What is "creepy" about a fight video? Like I said, if I were posting to jailbait, yes that would be creepy. Posting a video if a fight? What about that makes me a creep?

[–]MDNietzscheYouthFist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Okay. Whatever. Maybe the point is that the community wants you to step down as mod. I'd like to know your response to that.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why, because I'm the first person ever to break edge? My personal life has no bearing on how I moderate this sub. I moderate no different in here now than when I was edge. Only difference is I don't post as much.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Decided it was time and I've broke edge. There's nothing more to it. I don't claim edge anymore and obviously have zero problems with those who do. I don't think me not being edge has anything to do with not being a good moderator of this sub. I'm still extremely involved with the local hardcore scene but now I just drink beer. End of story.

[–]grandpa_hDrugFreeflair 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Soooooo, if he is straightedge or not, it's not really affecting our ability to gather on this website.

He's not doing anything damaging or subversive to the group, so I don't see a problem. Also, as a bonus, it might be a nice way for us to practice tolerance for other people's decisions, yes?

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

He was not open to the community. He could have informed the subreddit and let us decide. Instead, he kept silent. And, judging by his responses in this thread, he is not willing to do what the community wants and step down.

I don't have a problem with someone who drinks being a mod here. Someone sober might censor discussion just like someone who drinks, and so far I have seen no issues with the way this sub is moderater.

However, I definitely have a problem with a mod who is not open about something like this with the community and who is not willing to step down if the community wants it.

He's not doing anything damaging or subversive to the group

In the eyes of many people, being straight edge means that you are part of a judgmental gang known for being violent. And now the moderator of the subreddit turns out to be someone who promotes violence, especially violence that involves women.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think you get it man. I don't have to "come out" to the community and let you decide. If I never posted those posts in the beer subs you never would have known and everything would be fine and dandy.

Also saying my sub is "violence involving women" is ridiculous. You're really trying to make it sound like violence AGAINST women which is a completely different thing. If the posts where of guys beating up women I would completely agree, but it's not, it's women against women. Just like guys against guys but I'm not a man hater now am I?

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think you get it man. I don't have to "come out" to the community and let you decide. If I never posted those posts in the beer subs you never would have known and everything would be fine and dandy.

I don't think you get it. Being a mod is not about you and the effort you have put but about the role in the community. When so much of this your ideology is about staying true and clean, deciding not to be honest about it is clearly an issue. People are mad at you for a reason. You might not agree with their reasons, but you are not a part of the community anymore, so it is not up to you to decide.

And sure, Reddit rules mean you cannot be replaced easily, so if you want to be petty about owning a subreddit to grow your virtual presence or something, you can do it. But this means that you are even more out of touch with the ideals.

Just like guys against guys but I'm not a man hater now am I?

Let me breakdown what I wrote:

turns out to be someone who promotes violence

Violence in general, including men.

especially violence that involves women

Violence including women in particular, "girl fights".

If I hadn't seen that many linkes to videos of women fighting and just a handful of men, I would have emphasised on violence in general.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously neither of us is going to agree and that's totally fine.

I'm just going to say I wasn't dishonest as you say. I didn't say anything and that's my choice. I don't think every person on reddit tells every detail of their personal life on here. If somebody asked, I would tell the truth. Just like I did here.

And honestly I find it hilarious that all this is coming from a guy who drinks as well. Get off your high horse.

[–]xLNBx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

My two cents:

I don't care if you sold out (whatever - people move on, most of the time I can't be bothered to even wonder about their reasons...), and I am not saying you can't still be a good mod just because you drink (being drug free doesn't automatically mean one is a good mod, and vice versa), but...

Perhaps you should step down. I would guess the fact users are not comfortable with you being the moderator should trump the fact that you've spent time working on CSS for this sub (thank you, btw.), which sounds like the only argument you're bringing to the table at this stage.

Can you see why people are uncomfortable with the idea of a non-sxe sxe sub moderator? Whether their concerns are valid or not (I think some of them are and some are not), surely the users have something to say in the matter?

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see what you're saying, but I've grown this sub from when it was under 100 subscribers. If people have valid examples IN THIS SUB of where I was a bad mod due to me breaking edge, I'll step down. Unfortunately nobody will find that. Like I said in another comment, if I never posted the pictures in other subs nobody would ever know and I wouldn't be getting called a creep and every other name in the book. For a group that pleads for acceptance for their "non-conforming" beliefs, it's really not showing here.

Nothing I've done has warranted me leaving this sub and I won't do anything to jeopardize that. Again, I'm not modding any different than I was before. Just because I didn't make a post in here about breaking edge people are freaking out. I obviously wasn't trying to keep it a secret. Obviously by looking in my post history anyone can see what I am involved in.

[–]xLNBx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Separate comment on the violent videos angle:

Why people are into this kind of stuff is a mystery to me. Please explain. Is this considered "fun" / entertainment? Why girls and not dudes?

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also moderate /r/amateurfights which is just fights in general. I was asked to take over a common interest sub and I did. It's an opportunity to grow both subs as the same time. I don't have any high personal interest in solely girl fights but the cards just fell that way for moderating.

If you look back farther than one or two weeks in my history you can see I post much more than girl fights. I really try to keep most of my subs active by posting to them.

[–]VarishenDasectomahawk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really care that they're not edge...so.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore[M] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hi everybody! If anyone wants to ask me any questions feel free.

To get a few things out of the way, YES, I broke edge! 15 years down the drain! I decided I was "adult" enough to do it, that doesn't mean I'm a terrible person. That also doesn't mean I'm a "stupid fuck" or a "clown" or "bigoted" or "misogynistic" or anything else.

If anyone wants to have a legit discussion please ask. Leave your bullshit at the door though.

[–]halflitfluorescentsXXX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've had friends that have broke and that's something that happens unfortunately, but earlier you said that you don't feel completely comfortable scouring straight edge forums for posts anymore but you still feel like you should be a mod because you're good at it. It just seems kinda screwy that someone who doesn't like looking at xxx posts wants to keep modding an all xxx forum. I get being into hardcore still, but wouldn't you just want to step down from this sub if it's not your bread and butter anymore?

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really want to step down. I've literally spent hours building the CSS for this sub. Creating all the flair and everything was a lot of time invested. Viewing the links and posts in here to make sure they follow rules doesn't really make me feel weird at all, dedicating extra time on the Internet to find content does. I'm sure there are hundreds of mods out there that aren't directly dedicated to the "lifestyle" of the sub they moderate but that doesn't make them any less of a decent mod.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you don't think it was a problem, why didn't you come out? It would have been rather simple to make a post an explain your stance to the subreddit. Then, if the community was okay with you staying a mod, it would have been perfectly fine.

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not a problem and the community doesn't have to "decide" if they're okay with anything. Do you really think every mod of every sub participates in that lifestyle outside of reddit? No, but that doesn't mean they don't make a good mod.

[–]xtfftcdrinks once a year 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not a problem

Have a look at how people ahve reacted. They clearly see it is a problem.

and the community doesn't have to "decide" if they're okay with anything.

Glad you are willing to respect the community's opinion.

Do you really think every mod of every sub participates in that lifestyle outside of reddit?

Most subreddits are not about a subculture. But yeah, when it comes to a subculture - especially a subculture with such strong views on certain practices - it makes perfect sense to have the mods be part of it.

What is a good mod should be up for the community to decide.

P.S. It just seems to me that you want to stay a mod for the sake of it. And this desire to "own" the subreddit is reason enough not to be a mod. The community can move away easily, it has happened before with other subs. So why bother clinging to it?

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly. You're looking at this wrong and that's fine. Anyone can be a mod of any subreddit. Nobody here noticed and change of mod style since I broke edge OVER A YEAR AGO. Just now somebody looked back two months into my post history and noticed I posted a beer now I'm a creep and dislikeable and a stupid fuck. You would think if people had a problem with how I moderate they wouldn't wait a year to finally realize it.

Also I don't "own" subs. I've invested a lot into this and I'm going to keep modding here. If the community wants to move away because one mod broke edge then that's pretty weak. Especially when that mod did nothing to anybody except break his own personal vows.

[–]grandpa_hDrugFreeflair 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

awkward!

[–]Get__FuckedChicago Hardcore 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally!

[–]GlamrockShakeGBflair 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the issue is that most members of the sxe community in 2014 have had a lot of people they look up to sell out and move on.

Most of the bands that inspired us when we first made a decision to remain out of step have broken edge or broken up and it's easy to be upset that somebody, who was once passionate enough about the ideals to invest hours and hours of their time into creating and coding a great looking sub, no longer identifies with them.

I respect you, Get___Fucked for being true to yourself. You're right, you don't owe any of us an explanation or coming out or whatever.

We are just working through the sadness of watching Straightedge fall out of the mainstream.

[–]imacultclassic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not even a very good beer.