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Chick-fil-A founder Truett Cathy died Monday (ajc.com)
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[–]rxneutrino 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 13 時間 前 (43子コメント)
If you've never made the pilgrimage to the original Chick Fil-a location in Hapeville (the Dwarf House), it's well worth the trip!
[+]midnitewarrior[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-55 ポイント-54 ポイント-53 ポイント 13 時間 前 (42子コメント)
The first 3 times I attempted to try Chick-fil-A I vowed not to eat there. I lived near one and always went out to eat on Sunday for lunch and kept forgetting they were closed on Sundays.
Against my better judgement, I ended up going there with a friend and discovered a pickle on my sandwich. In my book, that's and instant "NOPE" for wrecking my sandwich.
The waffle fries were good though.
Their political stance keeps me going to other restaurants these days. If you plaster your political beliefs all over your business, don't be surprised when I don't buy there if I don't agree with them. Vote with your dollars!
[–]qwertyslayerMidtown 32 ポイント33 ポイント34 ポイント 12 時間 前 (4子コメント)
OP's pickle stance keeps me going to other threads these days. If you plaster your pickle beliefs all over your posts, don't be surprised when I downvote there if I don't agree with them. Vote with your karma!
[–]carrayhaySuns out guns out on the beltline 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You can only be called pickle fucker so many times until you just can't eat them anymore
[+]midnitewarrior[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 12 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Indeed you should! I am a proud member of the Church of the Nonexistent Pickle. If your beliefs don't agree with mine, you should kindly walk on the other side of the street when you see me near!
[–]RafTheKillJoy 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 10 時間 前 (1子コメント)
I am a supporter of Pickle rights, mainly because I am a pickle myself, and that being said I gladly eat at Chick-Fil-A because even though they don't like pickles they have many other good ingredients.
[+]midnitewarrior[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 10 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm a firm believer that nobody should ever slip you the pickle without asking one's permission first -- especially when it's on a sandwich!
[–]sonOFsack889Ormewood 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 12 時間 前 (26子コメント)
Can you explain the plastering of their beliefs part to me? I'm not saying that they're not open about what their beliefs are, but I don't remember walking into a chick fil a and seeing bible quotes on the walls or a sign up sheet for vacation bible school anywhere.
[–]nopetryagang 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 12 時間 前 (1子コメント)
There are mentions of God on a few places around the wall. Its in their mission statement. But to me, that's a far cry from making political statements. Those are not on the wall.
Everybody wants to hate on CFA, but they sure seem to love a place that puts bible verses on their cups.... (cookout)
[–]Coachpatato -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 5 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Also in n out has bible verses on all of their cups and fries and reddit loves them.
[–]gsfgfOrmewood Park [非表示スコア] たった今 (0子コメント)
They fund that Winship foundation, which is really out there. They do those "pray the gay away" conversion camps. Local business or no, I don't want anything to do with that.
[–]Ikarus3426 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
In every Chickfila I can remember being too there was a bible quote on the wall. Usually something about family.
Granted, I live in the South and I'm mostly thinking of Tennessee-Alabama-Georgia and a very religious city in Kentucky locations. I'm sure you could probably find the same quotes at a Waffle House or something. At the very least I'll see a Jesus fish somewhere on the wall.
[+]midnitewarrior[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 12 時間 前 (21子コメント)
Mixing business and religion for starters. Their Sunday policy is clearly based on their religious beliefs. Having an environment with "optional" prayer at company meetings. My bro-in-law worked at a company like this, and he understood he would be labeled the black sheep if he didn't comply with their religious practices even though he did not share them.
I worked for a company who was bidding on a Chick-fil-A contract. They met in our office and they started the business meeting with a prayer in our office. It was pretty obvious that if we didn't participate that we wouldn't be in their good favor, regardless of what our individual beliefs were. So we got to be in the great position of acting like people we weren't and possibly get the job, or act on our own beliefs and probably not get the work. My boss, being both non-religious and a business whore at the same time had no qualms about leading the prayer if there was a potential sale at stake.
Then there's the CEO, the public figurehead of the company, making divisive statements regarding marriage equality / gay marriage. When you do things to your brand that make my involvement with your business a political / moral decision, don't be surprised if I just want to go eat somewhere else without having to rationalize your political stance with the quality of your food and service.
The business profits from my sale support the political motives of the owners. If you don't make your motives my business, I can just focus on the food and the service and the brand. This is what I mean by voting with your dollars.
In the same manner, I don't support Jimmy John's because the owner uses his profits to go hunt endangered species in Africa. When I was blissfully ignorant of what he does with his profits, I wouldn't have had an issue, but I don't want to support that! Either don't do it, or do it discretely and make sure it doesn't become my business.
[–]imjgaltstill 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 12 時間 前 (20子コメント)
Mixing business and religion for starters.
It's amusing how many people that piss and moan about this are lightning fast to mix business and sexuality. Our nation would be well served with more folks of actual faith at the helm of business. Truett Cathy stood by his beliefs despite it costing millions every Sunday. Sadly, those kinds of principles are absent from most business today.
[–]YurislovSkilletAcworth 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 12 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Not to mention, they are probably people who only work Mon-Fri, but they expect the peasants to have to find a way to be open 7 days a week.
[–]midnitewarrior[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 12 時間 前 (11子コメント)
It's amusing how many people that piss and moan about this are lightning fast to mix business and sexuality
I don't follow you, I didn't make this about business and sexuality, Dan Cathy did with his statements.
Our nation would be well served with more folks of actual faith at the helm of business.
Why do you believe that to be the case?
[–]imjgaltstill -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 11 時間 前 (10子コメント)
I don't follow you
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you really that thick? Dan Cathy makes statements about the bible and homosexuality and the queens lose their freaking minds. This results in a boycott designed to demonstrate the power of the gay community. It's spectacular failure did just that. Chik fil a was still run off of numerous college campi as a result of the hysteria.
I would rather have men of faith like Truett Cathy who are willing to lose money and stay true to their espoused principles than a guy like Warren Buffet who bemoans the tax rates of the wealthy then does an offshore inversion for Burger King with the Hortons deal.
[–]midnitewarrior[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 10 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Dan Cathy makes statements about the bible and homosexuality and the queens lose their freaking minds.
So, Dan Cathy, a public figure and CEO makes a divisive statement about a social issue that currently is getting a lot of attention, and some how it's the "queens" are lightning fast to mix business and sexuality? Dan Cathy did that. Are you being intentionally obtuse? There's no way a CEO of a company as large as Chick-fil-A can rationally think he can make a statement about such a divisive issue and not draw negative attention to himself or his company.
You are somehow confusing the roles of CEOs of public companies and CEOs of private companies.
Only a rare few public companies (Ben and Jerry's was one) are not amoral entities. If the CEO of a public company trades profits in order to make a more moral business decision, he will typically find himself out of a job quickly. Your gripe is with capitalism and public companies vs. private companies, not men of faith vs. the faithless.
Chick-fil-A is a private company, only beholden to themselves as shareholders, not some New York investment firm shareholders or union pension fund shareholders. They can choose to trade profits to support any cause they choose without drawing the ire of shareholders. Both types of companies are still beholden to their customers though.
Warren Buffet who bemoans the tax rates of the wealthy
Bemoaning them like this? Warren Buffet wants to pay higher taxes. He believes the rich aren't taxed enough. He wants to chip in more as long as he's not the only one of his peers to do it.
In my experience, I've seen nothing to suggest that men of faith make better business people or are more principled than the faithless or non-faithed. There are atheists who are serial killers and there's atheist billionaires like Bill Gates who are trying to help the world. For every faithful man of integrity (Truett Cathy?), there's a man of faith looking to defraud people of millions.
The absence or presence of religious faith (or appearance thereof) is a poor indicator of integrity and principled action.
[+]imjgaltstill スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 10 時間 前 (3子コメント)
and some how it's the "queens" are lightning fast to mix business and sexuality?
Yep. This is all Cathy said -
"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said. "And I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."
The hysteria that was ginned up over this was unwarranted and completely over the top.
No I am not. I understand the difference completely. I also understand when someone is full of shit. Warren Buffet is full of shit.
He wants to chip in more
There is nothing stopping him from stroking a check.
There are atheists who are serial killers and there's atheist billionaires like Bill Gates who are trying to help the world.
When you actually understand the nature of charitable trusts and their relation to the tax code this altruism seems much more hollow.
there's a man of faith looking to defraud people of millions.
These are not even remotely what I was referring to when I said "an actual man of faith"
That is kind of my point. Professing devout faith but not acting on it is meaningless. Doing something that costs you millions every Sunday is a powerful expression of real faith.
[–]midnitewarrior[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 9 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Fortunately it's not hollow. There's a lot more fun ways of blowing billions of dollars than fighting malaria and HIV. It's people like Gates that are making this world a better place. He's in a privileged position to enact change in the world and he's taking the bold step to take advantage of his position.
You do realize churches are tax advantaged too, right? By the same logic, that makes their altruism similarly hollow.
Doing something that costs you millions every Sunday is a powerful expression of real faith.
If only his original intentions for that policy were as pure as you suggest:
Cathy also didn’t want to change his policy of closing on Sundays. That started when he drew the shades at the Dwarf Grill once a week to preserve time for courting the woman he would marry.
What would do the world a favor is to have more people of integrity running things. Integrity doesn't require faith in a higher power, just the will to do the right thing wherever possible.
[–]qwertyslayerMidtown -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 11 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you really that thick?
Neither, your original post was really unclear as to what you meant. The word "sexuality" doesn't equate to "homosexuality" in most people's minds, out of the context of a discussion about same.
[–]imjgaltstill -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 11 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Any one not living under a rock or completely retarded would be able to contextualize this based on the discussion about CHIK FIL A
[+]qwertyslayerMidtown スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 11 時間 前 (2子コメント)
You know today's a school day--shouldn't you be in class? Let the grownups talk now.
[–]sonOFsack889Ormewood -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 11 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Now when you say "actual faith" are you talking about a specific religion or just faith in general? It only becomes an issue when that person rams their faith down other peoples throats because they think its the right thing to do. You cannot alienate part of the population due to your faith when running a business, its just not smart.
[–]imjgaltstill -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 11 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You cannot alienate part of the population due to your faith when running a business, its just not smart.
Sure you can. It's not a good idea but you certainly can and should be able to do it. Think about the Muslim Dunkin Donuts franchisees who refuse to sell pork sandwiches. Not smart but it is in keeping with their view of their faith.
[–]cew0719South Buckhead -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 7 時間 前 (4子コメント)
'cause religious people are never assholes, amiright? /s
[–]imjgaltstill -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 6 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Forrest is your reading comprehension really that poor? There is a gigantic difference between those of actual faith and 'religious people'
[–]cew0719South Buckhead 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 6 時間 前 (2子コメント)
There is nothing wrong with my comprehension. However, your attempt at a personal insult reveals more about your inability to demonstrate an example of qualities typically associated with "faith", so you make my point more salient and yours moot.
TL;DR: you wouldn't know of "faith" if it bit you on the ass /s
[–]imjgaltstill -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 5 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Faith is much more difficult to accurately identify than a pompous asshole.
[–]cew0719South Buckhead 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I agree, which made you so very easy to recognize.
[–]brewmebrah 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 8 時間 前 (9子コメント)
Chick-fil-a's food is good... it's not even a matter of opinion. What do you eat $20+ chicken sandwiches all the time? It's not gonna get much better than that.
[+]midnitewarrior[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 8 時間 前 (8子コメント)
Nah, the one and only chicken sandwich I had there tasted like pickles. Had no idea they would wreck the sandwich like that. Still tasted like pickles after I took the pickles off. Had they not been there, I'm sure it would have been a more-than-acceptable sandwich.
[–]brewmebrah 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 8 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Then ask for no pickles? In fact, I am 100% positive that you could have taken your sandwich back to the counter and asked for one with no pickles and they would have obliged at no cost.
[–]midnitewarrior[S] -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 8 時間 前 (5子コメント)
I'm sure I could have, but it was "to go" and I wasn't going to drive back there at the time.
I have since discovered that all the copycat recipes have the chicken marinating in dill pickle juice before being cooked, so I'm guessing there's only so much that can be done to get around that flavor if it's likely part of their recipe.
[–]whitmere 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 8 時間 前* (1子コメント)
I worked there in high school - only true for the grilled chicken. The regular fried chicken never touches pickle juice
Edit: I forgot to add that the fried chicken tenders were also marinated in pickle juice - but not the nuggets. This was 10 years ago.
[–]midnitewarrior[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 8 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Good to know! Any idea if the grilled chicken gets any pickle juice other than the pickle they put on it?
[–]brewmebrah -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 8 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Copycat doesn't equal real recipe. There is no pickle juice in the sandwiches. All that's left to say is that you are a whiney douche.
[–]midnitewarrior[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 8 時間 前 (1子コメント)
What can I say, I tried the sandwich and didn't have a great experience. I didn't like it. I wouldn't be foolish enough to state that it's a fact that the sandwich is bad and not simply a matter of my opinion. CFA has many loyal fans, of which you are clearly one of them, there is no disputing that.
I had a bad experience and haven't been motivated to try it again. If it makes you feel any better, the only chicken sandwiches I typically eat are with deli meat, and I really don't eat fast food often any more.
I'm sorry I don't like your favorite sandwich.
All that's left to say is that you are a whiney douche.
You seem to be getting awfully worked up over a chicken sandwich and my choice of fast food cuisine. For the record, you are the one continuing to prompt my opinion. If you don't want to read what I have to say about it, then stop asking.
[–]brewmebrah -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 7 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Douche.
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