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Animal CrueltyHow to harvest spider silk. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]CoffeeandBacon 683 ポイント684 ポイント  (124子コメント)

Ok, thanks for the "animal cruelty" tag, mods. Can we stop being so overly-sensitive to animals? I'm tired of going along with the silly game, saying that doing anything to animals (or insects, or arachnids) that isn't purely to their benefit is cruelty. My god, everyone and their mother has killed a spider in their lives and this looks like the most beneficial (outside of natural uses) use of a spider that you could think of. Should we prosecute the person involved in this? Should we also discontinue animal testing of drugs?

[–]LadyLurksAlot 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's my understanding that the spiders used in these studies are very carefully handled and cared for. Hence the complicated spider-bondage instead of just skewering it to a board and harvesting the silk as it slowly dies.

[–]MeniteTom 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yup, they even feed and water them as they're doing this.

[–]wbeaty 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also little tiny ballgags. And black eyemasks.

With lots of eyeholes.

[–]XtremeGnomeCakeover 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

BDSM - Big Damn Spider Masochist

[–]BhmDhn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

unzips

Go on...

[–]LoweJ 226 ポイント227 ポイント  (72子コメント)

I mean, sure, some stuff is animal cruelty, but this? If I put up a video of cows being milked would i get that tag?

[–]EarthRester 286 ポイント287 ポイント  (56子コメント)

To be fair, you don't need to nail a cow to the floor to milk it.

[–]HomuraAkuma 345 ポイント346 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've been doing it wrong this whole time?

[–]syflox 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

you gotta nail the cow first ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–]vinnienine 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've been doing it wrong this whole time.

[–]Aigis-the-Aeon -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like you are doing it efficiently!

[–]Skootenbeeten 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (27子コメント)

The spider isn't nailed down, the legs are held in place by two nails that clearly cross at the top. Killing a spider every time you harvest the silk would be stupid and wasteful.

[–]turtle_with_dentures 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nail a cow to the floor

Well, the nails in OPs pic don't actually pierce the spider. They are just there to stop movement. It's hard to see in the gif, but when the camera angle is the guy pulling the thread towards the wheel you can better see how the nails are set up. They are all in triangular patterns. The spider is still restrained, but I can't imagine they are physically hurting during this process.

[–]sox_the_fox 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They didn't really nail it to the board. They it put the nails in at an angle like this /\ , and then use them to wedge the legs. So what they're really doing is just pinning the spider

[–]saors 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Do you have a better way to collect spider silk?

[–]Wolfman87 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That explains why the farmer was so angry...

[–]daedalus1982 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Speak for yourself

[–]IRPancake 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

well, not quite...

[–]cobalt503 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about non-penetrating push pins?

[–]trainspotting2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, no, you don't need to.

[–]catheterhero 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've never seen what to do cows have you?

PS I'm not some pc guy or anything I love meat and milk, but they're treated horribly.

[–]5k3k73k 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who is nailing anything? You really should actually click on the image.

[–]TDuncker 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's more the fact that (most?) people imagine all animals to have the same amount of emotion variety, and that a cow would allow you to do it, while this spider would be freaking out over getting pinned down and having something inside of it getting spinned out.

For some, it's really hard to imagine how some animals can react just on instincts and have no self-reflection/emotions.

[–]BBQsauce18 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Only 1 way to find out.

[–]hunt_the_gunt 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

But the gif of a snake with no head.. A ok

[–]strangea 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It was very clearly a snake head with no body, FYI.

[–]jjbpenguin 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There was probably a snake with no head nearby

[–]nighttrain123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or a snake body.

[–]hunt_the_gunt 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. Bad words.

[–]nighttrain123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it was a snake with no body.

[–]narf3684 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cows actually need to be milked to maintain their health. Yay selective breeding!

[–]josh4010 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably

[–]RedPetrichor 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reddit, the place where we cry over the life of a spider and we make jokes about dead people's shoes

[–]CoffeeandBacon 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly! Blows my mind

[–]TheDentite 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

LEAVE THE SPIDER ALONE. IT'S A HUMAN BE... wait... wait. Yeah fuck it, go ahead and do that to it.

[–]Casualties 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's unbelievable how butthurt people get over nothing.

[–]Mr_Smartypants 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

just think how the spider's butt must feel!

[–]trippygrape 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Silky smooth?

[–]SapperInTexas 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like buttah.

[–]TafTharion 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do know where you are, right?

[–]Ganzer6 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to the internet, you must be new here.

[–]bb9496 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Animal testing has strict regulations when it comes to pharmaceuticals if the company complies with ISO standards. They must exhaust all other options and rationalize the need for an animal testing model. I don't feel this is similar, but I also do not think it is wrong. It's just a spider.

Source: ISO10993-2

[–]CoffeeandBacon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course you're right. It isn't a 1-to-1 comparison, just a little hyperbole. This seems to be a perfectly good use of a spider aside from letting it do its thing.

[–]PunkShocker 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If Spider didna want to get silked, Spider shouldna made silk.

[–]freet0 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, its a god damn spider. Do we really give a shit? I don't think spiders even have the brain structures to have feelings of like and dislike.

[–]Oberyn_TheRed_Viper 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thankyou for being a normal, rational human being. So refreshing.

[–]5k3k73k 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can we confirm that the mods are bundles of sticks?

[–]CoffeeandBacon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mods are a bunch of spider-sympathizers

[–]TheHerbalGerbil 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know, right? There must be some kind of animals rights freak on the modlist for /r/wtf.

I've seen gifs/pictures of animals that are already dead and having odd things done to them marked as "animal cruelty". How the fuck can you be cruel to something that's already dead?

[–]Hugo_5t1gl1tz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well to be fair, most people don't want to see dead animals being fucked with either, so an animal cruelty tag is a reasonable catch all. But this? Just no.

[–]Sonris 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I like how it is cruel to milk something most are fine with killing outright for no other reason then they do not like it existing. Often with fire.

[–]PimpCinnamon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

a lot of people on reddit are extreme pussies, including the mods

[–]Mathlete86 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm more intrigued in how they eventually nail the spider down than anything.