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V1lat, my mistake, I am sorry.Fluff (self.DotA2)

WagamamaW が 投稿

I was very emotional during my stream for many reasons, and as V1lat replied to me I reacted like a 5year old kid.

I'm sorry, this was entirely wrong, I DONT CARE if you say you agree with me, you agreed with me for the wrong reasons. V1lat has done more for this community than most people, sure sometimes things go wrong but he did not have bad intentions. He started in dota1 like all the other of us oldkids and started for a passion for the game, not for money or trying to mislead people.

I honestly believe he tries his best and Starladder have had some amazing events that I have enjoyed aswell, one of them was a failure story for my team and things were wrong, but I don't want to create a hate-train.

V1lat, since I know you'll read this, I apologize for writing this, I realize it hurts your brand and image and it was a terrible thing to do. I was emotional and misfired completely. I wish to apologize to you and to any viewers that I riled up in my emotional state.

I fucking hate drama anyway, let's end this the right way atleast. I fucked up and I am sorry.

To those of you reading this, if you truly like me OR v1lat, please just try and understand both of mean no harm to the scene or eachother, we are both in dota2 because of the passion we share for the game. Getting mad at eachother for stupid things is pointless.

All I wish is that V1lat can respond to this post and we can calm this down again. I'm sorry for acting like a mad kid.

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[–]Iwica [非表示スコア]  (10子コメント)

to think I went through the trouble to make this, all for nothing

oh well

[–]BeBenNova [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It wasn't for nothing brother, it's glorious

[–]StickerbrushSymphony [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I'm sure it'll find its use sometime.

[–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

its use will appear one day

[–]Suedars [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

You can count on V1lat for that.

[–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Time will tell unless time is now working with valve time

[–]the trench is my homeMifune_ [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Twitch user: Waga what's the last thing you remember
Waga: v1lat
Twitch user: oh that's sweet
Waga: ...his lies

[–]RiskyChris [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

You know what they say, a working clock is right every time of the day.

[–]http://dotabuff.com/players/165755959mikkoxdd [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

that Memento reference Kreygasm

[–]Allsunday [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Now I get it. It wasn't Teddy, it was v1lat.

[–]Feedbackr [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Oh my god lol

[–]panterspot [非表示スコア]  (6子コメント)

Maybe waga is apologizing but I'm not and I never will, because he's an a-grade asshole who lied us straight in our faces when we were in Kiev.

Fuck you v1lat, can you please give me my fucking money back? Do you still have my paypal I wrote down for you so you "could paypal us the money when we got home?" rofl.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/51584

[–]http://getdotastats.com/sig/28755155.pngjimmydorry [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

I doubt you will get your money, but here is something else that's shiney.

[–]panterspot [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Haha, thanks dude, and yeah I gave up on that thought way back.

[–]SXcalibur [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I know this isn't the best time to bring this up, but you should start streaming. You seem pretty cool, and aside from Waga and a handful of other personalities, there's a distinct lack of good streamers for Dota.

[–]Bobblefighterman [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

That's super nice man!

[–]You're in over your headJensKristian [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Gives more since I have tagged you rich

I havent seen that 500 compendium lvl trophy, show it off!

[–]gizmoff [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Under rated post. Edit: Not any more

[–]Your downvotes only make me strongerKELonPS3in576p [非表示スコア]  (9子コメント)

be v1lat

don't give waga money

make him apologize for it

[–]flipper_gv [非表示スコア]  (8子コメント)

He's showing he's a better man by apologizing. He teaches by example on how to be an adult when you're in the wrong.

[–]Ice is (not always) nice!The_Zett [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

He teaches by example on how to be an adult when you're in the wrong.

You should not have to do this.

Some things in this world are seriously wrong. If you are right, why should you apologise for being right?

[–]I want an Akari~n flair plox. :3Akari-Akaza [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

you may be in the right but that does not mean you have to throw a tantrum.

there are better avenues when it comes to discussing issues than just throwing tantrums.

[–]mrducky78 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Because you arent a fucking child and there are proper and improper ways to go about things.

Im with the other guy, Waga being classy as usual.

[–]Ice is (not always) nice!The_Zett [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I never said his decision was wrong, just that in a better world such things would not have to happen.

[–]Your Friendly Neigbourhood douchebag.Dr_Phil_ [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

I don't know where you're from, but where i live, being "an adult" when someone owes you money means either they pay up, or you break their legs with a sledgehammer. And in 'murica Waga would probably sue V1lat, they love their stupid courts over there.

Waga was being nice, just calling v1lat out.

[–]GBcrazy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

A "better man" would stand and fight for his rights, you don't apologize to someone who doesn't deserve it

[–]Panthagruel [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Waga is not wrong. The rage was wrong, but not the facts.

[–]Switchersaw [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

The way Waga let things play out after V1lat provoked him during his stream was definitely not good, though. Waga is simply apologising for going off the rail, so to speak, when in his original post he went out of his way not to target a single individual.

[–]A Good Spotohreuben [非表示スコア]  (17子コメント)

I find it funny you are apologizing to V1lat when it's he who owes you an apology. Yea that was an over the top reaction, but it doesn't warrant an apology or a reddit thread. Stop giving a fuck about V1lat and enjoy your happy day, mang.

[–]Hubbabz [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

to me it show that waga is taking responsibility for needless drama he accidentally created.

all in all adds up to my respect for waga as a person and a gamer

[–]mrducky78 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Here in Esports, there is no such thing as needless drama.

ALL drama is welcome here.

[–]homm88 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Juicy Alliance drama!

[–]tropicalfire [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Whats the over the top reaction? I think I missed it.

[–]rooligan_ [非表示スコア]  (35子コメント)

You exposed V1lat for what he really is. You don't need to apologize. At least you won my and many others hearts. V1lat is shady and should not be in charge of hosting a tournament. Your team is ONE of MANY who has been treated badly, scammed and so on. We can even see in EE's interview from yesterday that they haven't been payed YET from the last Starladder.

But people PLEASE don't go to personal threats with V1lat. What you can do to make a difference is to contact the sponsors of Starladder and inform them how the situation really is. The money seems to be the only way to change V1lat and the other Starladder employees minds.

Edit: He is hosting, not running the tournaments, but still promising money left and right

[–]SunTzu- [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

Well there's the fact that he isn't in charge of running tournaments, because he neither owns StarLadder (he's an employee, same as Toby is at joinDOTA) nor is he their head tournament admin.

[–]He hess he hess he hess hes.hardypwn [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

shh, you're ruining peoples drama mongering.

[–]FishPls [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Yeah but if you're the one promising to pay and don't actually pay, then it's your fault, not the organization's itself. (referring to the $500 here, not the Envy thing.)

[–]SunTzu- [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

If you enter into an agreement on behalf of your employer, your employer is responsible for fulfilling that agreement in so far as you had the mandate to enter into said agreement or the other party believed you acted in good faith. Either way, I reckon that one is still on his employer, not on him, but I have no idea what the actual details involved are.

As for paying teams, StarLadder used to pay teams on stage. Because of how sponsorship agreements work, this necessarily came out of their own pockets, while they waited for their sponsors to pay them back later. With the size of prizepools inflating, they probably have had to wait before they get paid in order to pay out, and I'd be willing to bet that's the hold-up in regards to any outstanding payments for previous StarLadder events.

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    [–]D1r7 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    if you post threats to v1lat he is going after you i think

    [–]poooootis [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    i swear to god the ukrainian mafia threatened mama

    [–]SXcalibur [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Really though.

    [–]CAN'T RUN FROM HEAVEN ZAPERINOMe4onyX [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

    But the story about v1lat not giving money and ignoring your messages is still true, right?

    [–]Coffinfeeder [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    It's funny how Wagamama is apologising to v1lat, even though v1lat is the one who screwed him over.

    [–]quickclickz [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    That's what humility and the russian mafia can do to you

    [–]Pimpmuckl [非表示スコア]  (16子コメント)

    bbbbbbbbbbut I already sharpened my pitchforks :(

    [–]WagamamaW[S] [非表示スコア]  (15子コメント)

    Good, now they´re ready for when next Diretide sucks harder than last one!

    [–]Pimpmuckl [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    ok, deal.

    [–]venegal [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    nigga can you be more based?

    [–]Boelens [非表示スコア]  (6子コメント)

    Why did the last Diretide suck? I wasnt playing Dota back then but it looked really fun.

    [–]vipirius [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    Because it wasn't going to happen at first then it came pretty late. Most of it is just stupid drama though.

    [–]MrKapperhue [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Primarily because it was the free hats after every game, and to always try and beat the fuckin record with other 9 random pubs when the most coordinated stacks could only barely beat eachother

    [–]MrGestore [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

    Because after the first Diretide some of the childiest in the community expected a Diretide number 2, and when it didn't come they started crying and raising the pitchforks. Valve had to program an update with a new Diretide event (+ apologies, for no reasons but them being well mannered), but ofc the mode sucked hard, was full of bugs and just boring. At least the kids stopped crying.

    [–]IWantOffMrBones [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    Hey, man, if I need some oil for when I go to the beach I will contact you.

    @Boelens Because items were a bit harder to get.

    [–]MrGestore [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    Man I don't know how oil will work on bones

    [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

    thus Volvo banned us all from their reddit page...

    [–]FredAsta1re [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

    I sometimes wonder what the users in /r/volvo think of us . . . Do they fear the next dota drama? Or do they find it funny?

    [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    pretty sure they're scared of us and what will happen if theres no diretide again this year

    [–]humunuk [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

    are you done streaming for today ? :P

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      [–]Zeratul322 [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

      How humble Waga is. This guy deserves more gold.

      [–]Bond, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) BondFlying_Slig [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

      Humble wag

      [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

      guess you could say it was his sWaga...I'm sorry....

      [–]NtG_Rawdawg [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

      no, why the fuck are you apologizing, he owe many people money, including you, EE and a bunch of ams to state a few, idc what his "intentions" are or what hes done for the community, if he owes money, he needs to pay up or no one respects him plain and simple, u did not overreact, everyone appreciated the fact you kept it real and you created an army today.

      [–]mohyyy [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

      because he is a good guy ;')

      [–]2014redditacct [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

      He's a good guy but apparently doesn't have the balls to stand up for what is right.

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        [–]The AbyssMasticFlow [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        proof that v1lat is a huge asshole

        not saying more

        [–]Trezzy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        So he isn't the nicest of guys on the planet, big fucking deal. And by the way, that's not proof.

        [–]AmmoniumNH4 [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

        So V1lat gets away with it because he's done good things for the community? We're supposed to support good things, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the bad. His skype message was basically a threat "you're fucked if you ever try to go competitive". Correct me if im wrong but thats what i understood.

        [–]Achirality [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

        Waga probably has a lifetime ban from starladder for calling out shady stuff. Meanwhile, in the land of 322...

        EDIT: Apparently they're cool now, so at least there's that.

        [–]AmmoniumNH4 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        I swear to god, if waga doesnt go competitive because of v1lat doing shit, and this thread is waga knowing what v1lat might do, im going to lose all the faith waga has created for me in this community.

        [–]Trezzy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        V1lat has no fucking power over whether a player can play competitive or not. Waga at most may be banned from starladder but that's ALL the control v1lat might have.

        [–]Bobblefighterman [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        If we added up the good stuff he's done and compared it too the bad, he's probably sitting at -1,000,000,000 right now.

        [–]throwaway_112115 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        VOD of what waga said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yroyfc0eGdY

        [–]Natium [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        For anyone who missed it, v1lat did say something in the last thread:

        http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2fq9lq/wagamama_just_told_v1lat_fuck_you/ckbo81y

        "I told you Sorry 100 times in person. In Kiev later, on skype, and I explained the situation to you few times. And we both know this.. Be a good man, np. Just dont fucking lie plz that I am not answering and I am running a bad tournament"

        [–]WagamamaW[S] [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

        https://twitter.com/v1lat/status/508670144756068353 Drama's done boys. Sorry for riling you up for nothing!

        [–]chimairajoe [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        But i had popcorn made...... I HAD POPCORN MADE! EXTRA SALTY POPCORN!

        [–]bigtyo [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Where'd you get all the salt to make those?

        [–]nofearfineser [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Thank God!!! I wish you success in the future, bro

        [–]markchristiantjandra [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Holy shit waga, seriously, you are the classiest personality in the scene today.

        [–]MGuDiM [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

        so much drama today, bet /r/starcraft is jealous.

        [–]Cruxis87 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        Hard to be jealous when you're putting all your effort into life support.

        [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        their jimmies have been rustled

        [–]get_Ishmael [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

        didn't realise /r/dota2 had become /r/waganews in the last 24 hours

        [–]Kurp [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Guys, he doesn't like Waga, GET HIM

        [–]Bobblefighterman [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        We Wagathump now.

        [–]Dawq [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        What sponsor asked you to write this ?

        [–]elmirza [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

        Can someone give a tl;dr of what waga did?

        [–]gummz [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

        Complained about v1lat in the past, v1lat got angry because of that, waga got angry in turn and flamed him on stream ("fuck you v1lat")

        [–]sk1e [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        what did v1lat replay to wagass accusations of not paying?

        [–]gummz [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Implied he was mad at Waga by using sarcasm ("thank you for that, thumbsup" or something like that), and told Waga he should be greatful for everything he's done for him.

        [–]AnUnknownRedditor [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        You apologize while he STILL owes you money? Really?

        [–]i dont know how to play this game tbhmerisu [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Dude. You've proven that you are an amazing person at least 5 times today. I'm so glad you're a well known person in the scene. Thank you SO much for being such a cool person.

        [–]Jewellinius [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        So right move, i glad to see it. That's why Waga is simply THE best streamer.

        [–]EternalMajin [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        1v1 mid Techies only is the only way to solve this.

        [–]Falgo [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        I don't think it matters who loves/hates whom but I strongly believe these things should be handled in private 100% of the time. Times and times again people wash their dirty laundry on public and it divides the community into two camps and literally doesn't help anybody.

        That being sad V1lat's answer to you was very bitter and ruined such an amazing thing that happens once in a lifetime and I am very sorry for that and hope it didn't spoil this day for you completely.

        [–]stukov111 [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

        At least you can admit to acting like an angry kid, i wonder what all those brainless retards who spent their last 20 minutes spamming FUCK V1LAT or creating new posts about it will follow as well.

        [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        they'll probably keep saying FUCK V1LAT

        [–]remainenthroned [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        It would be great to see each and every one of them create an "I'm sorry v1lat" post.

        [–]mosquito_parasito [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        All I wish is that V1lat can respond to this post and we can calm this down again.

        So now we wait if V1lat can say sorry.

        [–]Kingmon [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Waga you're a real man! Willing and first to apologize! Respect! =) WagaThump

        [–]SublimeSC [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        I guess this is the most adult and correct thing to do. You did overreact by a mile.

        [–]lnstigator [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Can someone give me some context? missed waga's stream today :X

        [–]MantaBaby [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Waga is truly a down to earth person even though I don't know him personally. I can just feel it in his mannerism on stream and on social media. He is really chill and cool about stuff that a normal person would flip out on. He was once an amateur too and he felt the hardships the life of E-Sports gives. Manning up and apologizing to someone you just flamed or fired shots on isn't an easy task. Wagamama you da man you're an inspiration for the community no matter if you have a team or not. Mad respect and love.

        [–]1NGENIOUSSS [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Alright boys, TODAY WILL OFFICIALLY BE Saint Waga's Day.

        [–]DOTAGODPROZONLY [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        vilat is a fat piece of shit loser.

        [–]d0op [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        u dont need to sorry, fuck v1lat

        [–]pls no copy pasterino cappuccinotooDarko [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        VOD?

        [–]ziggybender [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        So if V1lat is responding to this, has he mentioned anything about the poor team's post that sparked all this drama? How can we inspire young players to join these tournaments if this is how they play out?

        [–]Cerebros100 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        He made a thread on reddit in case you havent noticed.

        [–]plplplplomg [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        you did nothing wrong waga and you don't have to be politically correct and apologize (you wouldn't have to even if he would give u money for that trip)

        [–]lolcaholic [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        Sorry Waga, sorry V1lat :c lets just play dota :D

        [–]Twitch.tv/TVMantasTVMantas [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

        We still need an excuse from V1lat on why he ignored you.

        Also appearantly they haven't paid C9 either. He needs to respond to these in order to retain his image.

        [–]Tblr [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

        What season was envy talking because in the last season they failed to qualify for the finals

        [–]rediee [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        he was stand in for EG iirc.

        [–]Tblr [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        ah right, totally forgot about that

        [–]http://getdotastats.com/sig/28755155.pngjimmydorry [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        He was standin for eg, wasn't he?

        [–]Cerebros100 [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

        Ok wtf. V1lat response from other thread ,

        I told you Sorry 100 times in person. In Kiev later, on skype, and I explained the situation to you few times. And we both know this.. Be a good man, np. Just dont fucking lie plz that I am not answering and I am running a bad tournament

        [–]rehabG [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

        eh.... which thread? Link or didn't happen.

        [–]Cerebros100 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

        The other threads are hidden , if you want to find the reply you can look in here. http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2fq9lq/wagamama_just_told_v1lat_fuck_you/ I am too lazy right now.

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          [–]FoIIowTheReaper [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

          Who's gonna eat all these popcorns now? :(

          [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          we will

          [–]venegal [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          NO U

          honestly, it takes a great person to admit to something like this, specially with the pitchfork hype and witch hunt of reddit that makes gods and villains out of people without having any real knowledge and background of the situation, but when someone decides to step down from that pedestal and act rational tis a great thing to see.

          Been following you since early dota1 days, if I wasn't as broke as greek economy I would've subbed and donated a thousand times, but I can barely afford to eat proper food most days, nevertheless love you and what you have done, and im proud to see you get what you deserve this day.

          You da real MVP, keep shining beautiful <3

          [–]uncoveringlight [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

          Yeah, sorry Wagga....my pitchfork is WAYYYY TOOOO SHARPPP NOW! Need to poke something...got to...

          [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          go poke the bed outside you house that should help your need to poke something

          [–]Ausrufepunkt [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Thanks, let's just hope this puts an end to the retarded witchhunt people in here are starting...

          [–]Beersmoker420 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          itd be better to just stop posting about it and solve it privately. People will forget about it in a few days if you just stop talking now

          [–]SGbv [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          what a fucking temper tantrum that was

          [–]hyde9798 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Love him or hate him, there would be no CIS scene in Dota 2 without V1lat.

          [–]BlinkDaggerOP [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Waga you do know that all this post is going to do is make everyone love YOU more and hate v1lat more still.

          [–]a_bright_one [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          I don't want to create a hate-train.

          I think that train has been around for a while. And i'm pretty sure it has no breaks.

          [–]rawros[🍰] [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          This subreddit is getting more and more sad every day, at this point it's even embarrassing to come here.

          [–]samiobito47 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          holy shit waga go play some dota to chill little bit you are getting too emotional lol

          [–]I want an Akari~n flair plox. :3Akari-Akaza [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Well. Time to put aside the popcorn and pitchforks. Drama's over boys.

          We still love you though Waga. <3 Make love not war.

          [–]Cis11 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Can i say fuck you to V1lat as well?

          [–]bloodipeich [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Lmao.

          V1l4t fucks up, FUCK YOU VILAT RUSSIAN SCUM gets spammed and mind he is from Ukraine.

          Waga apologizes and says he was wrong, people tell him to not worry and how everyone makes mistakes.

          Seriously, you people need to get the head out of your fucking asses.

          [–]QTFsniper [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Avoiding you like the plague after trying to get reimbursed... He clearly had bad intentions.

          [–]hudbud15 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Stick to your guns Waga... V1lat screwed you over. You should be mad!!!

          [–]Funky118 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Damn and i was getting ready for a drama :(

          [–]2Thousand8 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          You exposing his shady business was the correct thing to do, your (over)heated response to his explanation was a result of V1lat not owning up to the fact that HE does not have his shit together, but instead is trying to redirect the blame.

          You have nothing to be sorry for Waga, although I doubt V1lat would ever be man enough to admit his mistakes.

          [–]RiskyChris [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          It's a fucking joke how many times you have to be amiable to V1lat when he's a scummy piece of shit. FUCK

          [–]ancientGouda [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          At first I was really disappointed that you overreacted like that, but then I thought over it again. Why didn't v1lat even utter so much as a hint of an apology? .. Because there's nothing to apologize for anymore. And by apologizing, I really mean putting on a fake image of reconciliation and good will to buy your trust so you don't hurt his / Starladder's image. So there was no point in him apologizing, it wouldn't have bought him any advantage anymore. It's the same goddamn spiel every time: small guy get's kicked in the face and ignored, but when the word gets out and the community starts rallying behind them suddenly "there were a lot of mistakes and misunderstandings". Fuck PR. Fuck this bullshit.

          Maybe I'm just way over interpreting this, but right now, I feel like v1lat Starladder fully deserved what they got.

          [–]Rurousha [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          1000 subs secured, gj waga.

          [–]rediee [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

          you are just firing the drama up. this message; i lost my respect. shout a guy "fuck you" in front of 7000 people then 30 minute later apoligize? this only means that you are playing to audience.

          [–]Na'ViMaistree [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

          Or that he is a human being capable of in the moment mistakes which he later regrets?

          Waga has not given off anything that suggests he is that manipulative to do what you said.

          [–]Cerebros100 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Lolol wtf are you saying , how dare he be human.

          [–]parwa [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          what a standup guy waga is. mad respect for ending this beef so quickly and being the bigger man.

          [–]DeathBySyntax [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          "I don't care if I step on anyone's toes"

          lmao fuck off

          [–]gaben pls.MOST_EXCITING [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          You're a great guy, Waga

          [–]djmoneygrabber [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

          where is the response?

          [–]TheChibiKnight9786 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Hello Wagamama!

          [–]NuckChorris87attempt [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

          But my pitchfork...

          [–]The Exiled ReaperSnazmanJimmy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          diretide awaits it

          [–]ToughResolve [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Well said Waga, lets hope V1lat does indeed believe as you say and proves it by fixing the ever-present issues with Starladder.

          [–]BetaRP [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          The reaction was indeed over the top. But man, I could have done worse. You earned my respect when you were the first to apologize even if V1lat was the one in the wrong. Nevertheless, sometimes it's good to blow off some steam. :)

          [–]le_f [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          I think this is a good opportunity to discuss whether it's possible for well-intentioned people to form some kind of non-profit guild or union for professional gamers who can advocate on behalf of players who are always at the mercy of large organizations like Starladder. These relatively larger organizers have have historically screwed over small teams just because they can. There are a ton of smart people in the eSports scene who can probably figure this out. James? Zerogravity? Nazgul? Has something like this been seriously been talked about before? How would one start something like this?

          [–]swarnes1 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          I logged in just to say good on you mate

          [–]sephsephiroth021 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          At least you got a couple of hundred subs and a good few thousands of dollars from coming clean man, be happy about that.

          [–]TheJJKG [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Anyone got a VoD?

          [–]lokisad1 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Whats happened, whats the story behind it???

          [–]HokutoNoChen [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          pft. V1lat is the king of bullshit and shadiness. this is like, what, the 5th time in the past two years that we see some issue with Starladder/v1lat?

          if you apologize now you give him the "righteous" high ground which he CERTAINLY does not deserve.

          [–]Cyka Blyat!HetFetGrek [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          WagaMamaDrama Biblethump

          [–]sk1e [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          All i wish for is that starladder would have more professional casters. 80% of starladder`s casters cast like 10yo kids, talking about anthing but the game, lame jokes etc. They have monopoly in russian-speaking scene, so they dont give a fuck and countinue casting like there are 20 listners, not 200k. This problem really stands out when you see how EU and US studios grow and become more professtional, interresting to watch.

          [–]GBcrazy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

          Looks like you've been threatened. Don't worry about that reddit can protect you

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