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SRS dramaThe shadowbanning of /u/DualPollux aka TheIdesOfLight reignites via a /r/ShitRedditSays sticky, and the fire spreads to SRS, SRSsucks, AMR, and AMRsucks. (self.SubredditDrama)

awrf が 投稿

A recap of where TIOL/DualPollux got banned, advertising the "reddit has a racist user problem" petition

SRS comes around 8 days later with a meaty recap post including screenshots and leaked admin mail. In response, multiple people decide to contact gossipy internet sites and Anderson Cooper. Apparently SRS has a super secret offsite forum now.

The post is then linked to multiple other subreddits.

SRSsucks (AMRsucks got her shadowbanned!, Shitposting /r/adminmythos!)
AgainstMensRights (How do we turn this into bad press for reddit?)
AMRsucks (Would SRS/AMR being 'exposed to the light of day' destroy them?)
blackladies (Are the admins in bed with racist subs?, Possibly the first time anyone's ever been angry about their comment being gilded)

Apparently a user in AMRsucks is contacted by a Daily Prophet Daily Dot reporter who is doing a story on the shadowban.

EDIT: A few other links via /u/dingdongwong:

Admin reassuring blackladies that they weren't being brigaded by GreatApes

Circlebroke has a large, drama-filled thread.. after trying to punt SJ stuff to /r/openbroke, the top two posts on CB are flaired "/r/openbroke".

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[–]Enleat 126 ポイント127 ポイント  (29子コメント)

I have no idea what's going on.

[–]mach-2 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Good. Just record the fight. Horizontally.

[–]searingsky 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

WORLDSTAR

[–]theroachsays 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can't wait to see the video of someone repeatedly screaming "AM I BEING DETAINED" while the cameraman is screaming "WORLDSTAR!"

[–]postirony 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Glad I'm not the only one. All I see is a bunch of shrill idiots yelling at each other about some meta drama six layers deep.

[–]threehundredthousand 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's LONG and convoluted. It's like reading the history of conflict between England and France from 1000AD to 1900AD. It's hard to just sum up outside of "lots of fighting and intrigue."

[–]KaliYugaz 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Explaining this Reddit metadrama to an average non-Reddit user would be like trying to explain the Apollo 11 mission to Joan of Arc.

[–]hpliferaft 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/explainlikeIAmAdrama

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    [–]Enleat 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I also don't trust what anyone says anymore to be honest. Everyone seems to have a bone to pick.

    [–]_watching 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's tied up with the gender wars, racist drama, and the "admins suck" thing.

    I think just in general reddit drama is going to continue getting more layered and meta until we can't take it anymore and everything explodes.

    [–]blahblahblahdkjdfgj 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Every once in a while I try to dip my toe into the gender/race war stuff, like I'm trying to do now, but in the end I just end up confused and there's so much bias going on with both sides that it's hard to figure out what's really going on. And don't get me started on drama where I have to remember people's usernames and visit like 8 different sites just to keep up. This is why I try to keep to drama about ultra-specific niche subjects about cartoons or food or computers or whatever, because I can laugh at those. Or conspiracy drama, which is my fav

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      [–]Kalulosu 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well I think you described it pretty well.

      [–]jesus_laughed 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      If you remember /u/ChuckSpears, now envision a counter part to that, but black and feminine. That's who just got banned.

      [–]Elek3103 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I have no idea who any of these people are.

      [–]randomevenings 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Nothing of value was lost in either case.

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        [–]ShooterDiarrhea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Seeing all those blue links is hurting my brain. I'm scared to open any of them lest I fall victim to their asshattery

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          [–]TD_SECR_fan 224 ポイント225 ポイント  (28子コメント)

          People care way too much about a fucking internet message board.

          and I love it

          ETA: lol at other top level comments in this thread, so much rustling.

          [–]Cupinacup 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (18子コメント)

          No matter who loses in this little scuffle they've got going, SRD wins.

          [–]raspberrykrakenPopcorn tasting professional 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (15子コメント)

          And then it gets super circlejerked in SRD so SrDD wins! And then once its circlejerked enough in SRDD it goes to die SRDDD... At least it dies and then gets reanimated months to a year later as a petty argument. Thats why they disable to post to posts 6 months after/archives them to stop the drama.

          [–]Titan_Transcendent 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

          You gotta go fast if you want to reach the heady heights of /r/subredditdramaX4 and /r/subredditdramaX6! But not X5, fuck those guys.

          [–]RoBoDaN91 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Having only just heard about X4 and X6 because of your comment what's wrong with X5?

          [–]ubernostrum 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          All these meta subs will be yours.

          Except X5... we do not go there.

          [–]RoBoDaN91 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

          I thought it was a joke about it not existing so I looked it up and it does exist. Now I'm all confused.

          [–]idonotget_it 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We told you not to go there. You are one of them now.

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            [–]Titan_Transcendent 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I hate them because they vote brigade X4 all the time. Bastards.

            Oh well, at least they're not as bad as the X7 crew. I don't even want to talk about some of the shit they pull.

            [–]happyhappytoasttoast 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            And thus the lifecycle of drama is complete

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                [–]awrf[S] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                On one hand, this goes against my usual "no metastuff other than SRD/CJ" rule, but on the other hand it's so buttery I can't resist. I'll have it.. just this once.

                [–]therealdirtydan 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                "What's for dinner tonight Therealdirtydan?"

                Popcorn, kids!

                "What about tomorrow?"

                Leftover popcorn!

                I'm mildly interested to see where this goes with the Daily Dot article. We could be eating reheated popcorn for days on end.

                [–]june_oyster 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I'm not sure which writer is covering it. The Daily Dot is extremely predictable, but it should be a fun read unless it's Aja Romano, the Nancy Grace of online fandom.

                [–]Raudskeggr 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                And here I thought SRS was supposed to be an "Ironic" circle jerk, just for the lulz.... :"p

                [–]raspberrykrakenPopcorn tasting professional 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Its almost like she just couldn't let it go.

                [–]BritishHobo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This is why I try and stay away from all these subs now. It's like wanking into a kaleidoscope.

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                  [–]theMightyLich 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  First link redirects to Subreddit Drama.

                  Holy shit the Perpetual Popcorn Machine is real guys.

                  [–]149008 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Apparently a user in AMRsucks is contacted by a Daily Prophet Daily Dot reporter who is doing a story on the shadowban.

                  Actually that user contacted the reporter first when he realized that they were added as a mod to blackladies.

                  [–]DonQuixoteReference 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Well, if they wanted to give the press all of the ammunition they need, the easiest way is to just let them see all the modmail and deleted content themselves.

                  [–]dingdongwongPoop loop originator 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (66子コメント)

                  Dang, and I just finished my recap as well.

                  Whatever your stance is on this whole thing, one irony can’t be denied. SRS loved to make fun of SRSsucks for being conspiracy nuts for suggesting “the admins were in bed with SRS”; now they are all up in arms and suggesting that “the admins are in bed with the racists” and SRSsucks are calling them conspiracy nuts.

                  [–]Higev 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (45子コメント)

                  Most cries of "admins helping SRS" died when Intortus stopped being an admin.

                  [–]dingdongwongPoop loop originator 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                  That is another funny thing. It used to be speculations from SRSsucks: "Intortus got fired because he was a SJW pushing his agenda". Now it is speculation from SRS: "Intortus resigned because he was against racism and had a conscience".

                  [–]Higev 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  Now it is speculation from SRS: "Intortus resigned because he was against racism and had a conscience".

                  Oh I haven't seen that one yet, although I've been trying more to stop looking at SRS drama lately (can see it isn't working out too well).

                  [–]Dramatologist 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  It's in this circlebroke thread: http://np.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/2fgb2f/evidently_interfering_with_the_culture_of_a/

                  [–]ArchangelleTheRapist 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Jeeeerzzzzuuuhhhsss -

                  Whole thread tldr: Reddit isn't inclusive because it doesn't pander to me and exclude any topics i find disturbing.

                  [–]chaanach 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  yeah they're dumb

                  [–]_Old_Man_Jenkins_ 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Totally insensitive to mute people. Ableist. /s

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                    [–]Higev 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Oh jeez it's bad in there

                    [–]theroachsays 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Looks like they deserve this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

                    [–]moonmeh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I... left cb for a reason jesus

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                        [–]Yearoftheboomerang 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I wish reddit would just ban SRS and the Redpill and all those closely related subreddits. It would solve a shit load of petty whining on this site that the Admins have to deal with.

                        [–]bhopscript 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Also /r/bestof

                        [–]FISSION_CHIPS 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        If nothing else this oughtta shut up the constant chorus of "Admins are secretly SRS" that comes from the MRM-aligned corners of this site. Unless they claim this whole thing is an elaborate false flag operation. Which they almost certainly will.

                        [–]ZippityZoppity 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        Didn't that stop when /u/intortus left the staff?

                        [–]FISSION_CHIPS 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        Hmm, I think you're right. It has died down quite a bit in the last few months. I'd forgotten about all the /u/intortus drama.

                        [–]ZippityZoppity 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        That was a delicious time.

                        [–]Prettyniceguytoo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        I'm /r/outoftheloop, tl;dr?

                        [–]Red_Oktoberfest 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Inortus was admin, people SRS didn't like get shadowbanned. Inortus stops being admin, shadowbans stop.

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                          [–]awrf[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          ah, and you did more work than me too! I'll edit some of the stuff you found into the post. fyi, it's "summary" not "summery" :)

                          [–]dingdongwongPoop loop originator 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          well dang, summery seems to be an actual word. No wonder chrome didn't highlight it as mistake. Thanks, appreciate the correction.

                          [–]E_pluribus_scrotum 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          It is lovely summery drama, though! sips chilled sauvignon blanc

                          [–]oh_bother 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Deftly handled, we can defiantly sweep that under the carpet... I mean brazenly... shit.

                          [–]InOranAsElsewhere 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          ...for reasons I cannot yet explain, you have managed to seduce me with this comment. I'm yours. Take me.

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                            [–]michaelisnotginger 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                            Circlebroke has fucking jumped the shark. Everyone there thinks the admins are in on some grand racist conspiracy. An for people who spend their time here they sure hate themselves

                            [–]Maehan 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                            Circlebroke is always losing their collective minds over crap. Half the threads there look exactly like the idiotic posts they were supposed to analyze/mock.

                            We have such gems as;

                            Reddit as an agnostic money-maker is evilly brilliant. It relies on the "motte-and-bailey" strategy. Reddit relies on the narrative that Reddit is a monoculture to create a feeling of loyalty and belonging that translates into a bountiful profit in the bailey. Criticize Reddit's culture and Reddit retreats to the security of the motte. "Reddit a tool for free speech. Reddit is a collection of diverse individuals."

                            Look at dem fancy words I just pulled out of my ass to defend some half cocked theory of reddit.

                            lel reddit admins can go fuck themselves

                            something tells me intortus got budged out because he had a goddamned conscience.

                            LOL wake up sheeple the reddit admins are sociopaths.

                            Yeah I always wondered "whats so dangerous bout doxxing" - turns oit nothing if you are a decent human being. "Look at this ben guy, being subscribed to r/pugs and thinking Russia shouldn't invade Ukraine" - yeah I could get fired from work so fast...

                            Yeah, I mean witchhunts have never gone wrong in the past...

                            I like how great users like unidan who spoke out against racism and debunked racist copypastas while teaching us about science get banned.

                            Oh noble Unidan, praise be to you. Obviously you were a martyr for tolerance and not someone who just couldn't help but manipulate your internet points.

                            [–]mwmwmwmwmmdw 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                            circlebroke used to be good with more light hearted and not such vitriolic conversations but they started really getting more up their ass and philosophical about reddit now they talk about reddit super seriously like its actually important

                            [–]Ebu-Gogo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            I liked circlebroke when it actually was snarkily calling out, you know, actual circlejerks, even if it was still rather prone to counterjerking (at least it was self aware of it).

                            But I stopped visiting and the only threads I see are the ones that reach my front page. It's always these passive-agressive sensationalist titles followed by a post full of "outraaaage!". It completely lost its self awareness and no one is putting in any effort anymore. It basically turned into SRS in the way that they're just posting shit that they find on Reddit (not necessarily SJW stuff) and hope to find a counterjerk to suit their needs.

                            I'm not some SRS shill bogeyman caller. I'm just saying that it turned into a sub that does basically the same thing: Post thread about thing you don't like, talk with other people about how much you don't like thing.

                            [–]mwmwmwmwmmdw 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            i quit when the community decided they only wanted outrage posts that where longer than a memoir

                            [–]Ebu-Gogo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Yeah, basically. Not to mention the incredible amount of intentional misrepresentation of comments and missing points the size of jupiter.

                            [–]ComedicSans 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            [Insert generic could-be-slightly-discriminatory-but-might-not-be comment] +45

                            LOOK AT THIS -ISM.

                            [Insert generic probably is discriminatory comment] +3

                            ARE YOU OUTRAGED YET?!

                            [I hate things that you like] +3

                            REDDIT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!

                            [–]LynnyLee 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            And yet I find myself unable to quit them...

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                              [–]Caldris 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              motte-and-bailey strategy

                              You know, the funny thing is just the other day I was reading a blog about how SJWs (And I think feminists as well) use this very same technique.

                              Just a funny coincidence.

                              [–]DarbyJustice 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Hah. The "motte-and-bailey" strategy they're talking about came, I suspect, from this rather densely-written criticism of groups like SRS.

                              [–]Socks_Junior 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              CB jumped the shark like two years ago. It's been pretty much stagnant since then, after growing pretty quickly in its first year. It started off actually fairly conservative, calling out a lot of the typical left and anti-American circlejerks that pervade reddit. At some point though, it really did turn into SRS-lite, and a lot of people unsubbed and it stopped growing and became irrelevant.

                              [–]CBalls 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              IMO it turned into SRS-lite after the "mod holiday" this past Christmas break. The mods said they were going to quit modding for a few weeks during the holiday and allow whatever people wanted to post. Only problem was that except for banning image posts they quit removing posts that didn't follow CB's rules once they came back. The SRS crowd moved in because the "No Social Justice" rule was no longer being enforced and the sub went to shit. Here's a good example of what CB currently consists of.

                              [–]larrylemur 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Holy shit that's fantastic

                              [–]awrf[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              That was beautiful. Thank you for linking that.

                              [–]Kerzenschein 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Circlebroke used to be great before it sunk into the SRS empire.

                              [–]93rd 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              I'm surprised this sub isn't doing the same thing tbh. SRD is usually indistinguishable from Circlebroke.

                              [–]johnbailey1 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              That's what you get when this sub is modded entirely by a circlebroke clique. Why things are this way I don't know.

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                                [–]tossser2 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Similarly, men leaking, downloading, and fapping to nonconsensually shared pictures of women is not the same as women doing the same to men.

                                This is exactly why so many people mistakenly believe SRS is a joke or satire subreddit.

                                [–]BlackHairedGoon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                At this point, it is. Its trolls trolling trolls with a couple of nutjobs who think they're in good company

                                [–]bustednbruised 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Context?

                                [–]The_YoungWolf 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (74子コメント)

                                Don't forget that we have a secret offsite when you are ready to rid yourself of reddit's bullshit! Message me for details!

                                Wow, congrats SRS, you look just as insane as /r/conspiracy now.

                                I'm just getting the feeling the admins are getting sick of the bullshit these extremist demagogues are shoveling, on both sides of the political spectrum.

                                [–]celocanth13 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                Is thefempire.org supposed to be secret?

                                [–]_watching 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (45子コメント)

                                tbf people have been telling SRSers "if you hate reddit so mcuh why dont you leave" for as long as there has been SRS. I don't think it's that cray of a group that criticizes reddit to have their own site.

                                That said, I haven't seen the site, so idk.

                                [–]WFTitsGatsby 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                And yet here they are on reddit, taking about how much they hate reddit.

                                I can't imagine how obsessive some people are too make message boards about message boards they don't like. That's just weird...

                                [–]_watching 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                It's because they dislike some of the groups on reddit, and not the actual existence of webforums. SRS is a bit more hardcore about it, but ther's a degree of bitching about parts of reddit here on SRD, too.

                                [–]Gunvorsejl 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                It's basically bitching about the a lot of the same parts to. The red pillers and the racists say.

                                [–]_watching 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                I mean, honestly, reddit seems to be getting worse and worse lately. I think the whole "SRD and SRS are becoming similar" thing is semi-accurate, but it's not because SRS is taking over, it's because reddit is becoming so demonstrably racist and sexist that people who are completely uninterested in social justice/feminism/whatever are also recognizing it as bullshit.

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                                  [–]porygonzguy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  I've seen the site. It's super fucking inactive.

                                  [–]TheVoiceofTheDevil 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Is a body for internal criticism really that bad?

                                  [–]philmoskowitz 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                  Most forum sites have "lunatic asylum" boards or containment boards for the truly mentally disturbed. Keeps them from threadshitting the life out of every other place with normal people in them.

                                  Let the freak shows rub feces on their own walls and we can happily ignore them.

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                                    [–]very_qt_sociopath 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    It's no coincidence that you never saw Chuckspears and Krispy"Klansman"Krackers posting in the same thread at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the admins weren't his socketpuppets of his.

                                    [–]WorldOneWon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    This is such obvious sarcasm I am surprised it flew over peoples heads

                                    [–]Mega_pooh_bear 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                    Eh out of all the people who bitch about reddit at least they are in the motions of leaving

                                    [–]Hey-Gang 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    They aren't leaving. I checked all the accounts saying that this was the last straw and that they were never coming back to this site again.

                                    They're all back already. SRS is pathetic.

                                    [–]rb_tech 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    I love when anyone pulls the "That's it, I'm out!" routine, as if that sends some kind of message to a free website that has millions of users.

                                    There's the door - don't talk about it, just do it.

                                    [–]happyhappytoasttoast 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Even better when "popular" users write a good bye/bitter rant about finally leaving. Always seems egotistical.

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                                      [–]wal8998 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      If the SRSers left, they'd have nothing to complain about.

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                                        [–]YeastOfBuccaFlats 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Wasn't having an offsite forum one of the reasons /r/niggers was banned?

                                        [–]othellothewise 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        That's because they brigaded from it. On the SRS offsite linking to reddit is strictly forbidden and if you keep doing it, you get a site wide ban.

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                                          [–]Higev 104 ポイント105 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                          Poor Ides, couldn't have happened to a nicer person. She probably found out after walking home from the homeless shelter she volunteers at.

                                          All because she stood against racist subs, and only racists subs, certainly wasn't an asshole to anyone else.

                                          [–]QuicklyEscape 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                          Not sure why your comment is considered controversial. Ides was overly hostile over everything and constantly did the whole "i didnt relly mean wat i said u just got epic trolled XXDDD"

                                          [–]Raiden_Gekkou 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          Yeah, I remember when Ides banned someone from OffMyChest for saying that minorities can be racist against white people.

                                          [–]odintal 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          Isn't she the same user who talked some noise about putting whites on leashes or was that some other bigot?

                                          [–]WorldOneWon 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                          That was someone else on blackladies. However, thank you for reminding me about that hilarious drama

                                          [–]odintal 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          I thought it was the same person with a different username. Who was that one?

                                          [–]WorldOneWon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          You're talking about this where the person also mentioned they want to eliminate most white people right?

                                          Or is there different drama regarding Ides and Leashes?

                                          EDIT: The posters name was BlackDominican

                                          [–]FelixTheMotherfucker 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          I think you mean the lovely gal who called for literal genocide, not Ides

                                          [–]duckduckCROW 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          That wasn't Ides, actually. Different user all together.

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                                              [–]Higev 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              I notice my comments here usually become controversial even if they're pretty benign (although that comment isn't since the SRS/AMR groups still support her). My only guess is that because I usually go against SJW circlejerks that pop up here I've attracted some hate.

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                                                [–]beIIe-and-sebastian 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                She's already back as /u/IrbyTremor, remodded to all of her subs instantly after her shadowban.

                                                [–]clock_watcher 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                The hypocrisy of her is mind blowing:

                                                Evade your ban again and we will contact the admins.

                                                http://np.reddit.com/r/blackladies/comments/2fi8af/why_is_this_sub_so_intolerant/ck9hrys

                                                [–]clock_watcher 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                I'm conflicted in my views of her. On the one hand, being a mod of blackladies and a high visibility black Redditor would mean she would encounter a torrent of hateful, racist shit every day.

                                                On the other hand, she was an obnoxious jerk, entire incapable of having civil conversations and treated everyone who didn't agree with her with contempt.

                                                [–]longfoot 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                She seems scarily neurotic. The "Thaaaaankkks Darrrrling" is just creepy.

                                                [–]bioemerl 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Narcissistic and smug.

                                                An "exceptionally punchable" line of text.

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                                                  [–]ThatGuy_989 126 ポイント127 ポイント  (102子コメント)

                                                  What the hell was /u/krispykrackers thinking with that line? You interfere with the culture of certain specifically charged subreddits? Regardless of what she was banned for people are going to take that as "you pissed off racists and sexists"

                                                  [–]Legolas-the-elf 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                  You interfere with the culture of certain specifically charged subreddits?

                                                  Ides is a moderator of /r/againstmensrights and (IIRC) other similar subreddits and has already been shadow banned once relating to her behaviour regarding them. The idea that it's all about /r/blackladies is just what Ides wants people to think.

                                                  [–]Cupinacup 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  From what I recall, TIOL isn't a very hands-off user. I'd imagine this is what eventually lead to the ban, but considering the context here I feel the admins had some really shitty timing.

                                                  [–]un-affiliated 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Shitty timing? Makes sense to me that they'll ban rule breakers whenever the offense occurs and is noticed, rather than being held hostage by a rule breaker's other activities.

                                                  [–]Raudskeggr 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Not so much shitty timing as good rabble-rousing by Ides.

                                                  But it's actually a good thing that the Admins hold everyone to the same set of rules, no matter how much of a fuss they can cause over their being held accountable. :p

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                                                    [–]rb_tech 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (43子コメント)

                                                    We won't be sure until all the info comes out on what happened behind the scenes, but yeah. Not a good look for the reddit admins.

                                                    [–]ThatGuy_989 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                    Ya, I'm sure there is more to it, but at this point both sides have the ammo they need. SRS/blackladies is going to be convinced it was because the admins are defending shitty views, and SRSsucks and AMRsucks is going to be convinced it was because of brigading and vote manipulation.

                                                    [–]InsomnicGamer 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                    I would be shocked if it wasn't vote manipulation. Unidan part 2

                                                    [–]ThatGuy_989 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                    Except I think /r/circlejerk will be to busy photoshopping the admins into porn to run this one into the ground.

                                                    [–]PixyFreakingSticks 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                    Well, maybe, but why'd they say "messing with the culture" instead of just telling her what it was for? Why making something up?

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                                                      [–]mwmwmwmwmmdw 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Not a good look for the reddit admins.

                                                      which is always

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                                                        [–]StrongBlackNeckbeard 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        He was Shaqtin' a fool for sure. This whole situation has me hella confused - TIoL has had like multiple accounts that have all been banned right? Why wouldn't the admins just tell her, "Hey we caught you breaking the rules again so we're banning you."

                                                        [–]StandWithLilith 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I agree. I doubt she was banned solely for promoting this petition considering her former endeavours so krispy really didn't word that well. Or maybe they worded it exactly as intended. Who knows?

                                                        Basically, whether she was banned for vote brigading or whether the admins are protecting racists, I wouldn't be surprised either way.

                                                        [–]sibeliushelp 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        And didn't they previously say that the racist trolls, who were "disrupting the culture" of blackladies, weren't a concern of the admins, but one person "disrupting the culture" of racist subs is worth an admin interfering? Wtf?

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                                                          [–]Vibster 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                          Why do the AMR mods keep remodding her new accounts every time she gets shadowbanned? Isn't this a sure fire recipie to get your subreddit nuked by the admins?

                                                          [–]aceavengers 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          Didn't Kamen keep getting his alts modded to places? I think it's just because they think she was shadowbanned for a shitty reason.

                                                          [–]Vibster 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          Kamen?

                                                          [–]WorldOneWon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Kamensghost.

                                                          Think of him as the Ying to Ides' Yang

                                                          [–]ValiantPie 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I wouldn't say TIOL is as bad as kamensghost. Note that I'm saying this in a manner analogous to saying "I don't think the bubonic plague has done quite as much damage as malaria."

                                                          [–]honeybadger105 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                          AMR getting nuked wouldn't be the worst thing.

                                                          [–]z1967 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Afaik its just a clone of SRS so I don't know why it exists. It would be like having an /r/funny and an /r/funny2.

                                                          [–]increasepower 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Afaik its just a clone of SRS so I don't know why it exists.

                                                          AMR was pretty much dead before SRS banned posts from /r/mensrights. There were some people for whom attacking MRA's was really, really important and they were to referred to AMR. That's pretty well the only reason why AMR has a decent amount of activity.

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                                                              [–]Geofferic 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              I don't get it. Just use the RES ignore feature for anyone from SRS or any other whack-a-do sub. I have something like 200 people ignored, at least half from /r/conspiracy (there's a shock).

                                                              There is no valid reason to ever engage people who have no interest in conversation.

                                                              [–]Botmar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              It almost sounds like you don't like drama.

                                                              [–]vpovio 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                              I really wish there was a truly impartial admin that would just start nuking every alt, subreddit, and main that violated rules, /r/mensrights /r/shitredditsays all of them. Just one glorious day of nuking shit with their banhammer. The drama that would be created in that day would be eternal and beautiful.

                                                              [–]93rd 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                              /r/subredditdrama will probably get nuked along with the rest of them though. It;s not like this sub doesn't have its fair share of brigaders.

                                                              [–]vpovio 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                              I don't even care, I'd still cum harder than a coked up pornstar that had been force fed viagra and milk products for a week and been edging himself for a month.

                                                              [–]nightride 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                              Do milk products make men cum harder?

                                                              [–]vpovio 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                              I feel, intuitively, like it's a definite maybe.

                                                              [–]AliceHouse 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                              Scientificamally speaking, milk is full of estrogen. So most likely no. If you want to cum harder, you gotta really dig into that prostate.

                                                              [–]TheMediaSays 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about milk to dispute it.

                                                              [–]YeastOfBuccaFlats 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Banning meta subs in general would be the best course of action IMO

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                                                                [–]lilrhys 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                /r/amrsucks

                                                                So lemme get this straight...

                                                                There's /r/mensrights, then there's /r/AgainstMensRights and then there's /r/AMRsucks. When do we get /r/againstAMRsucks?

                                                                [–]Zideburnz 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                "I'm so angry that I can't endlessly shitpost and cause troubles for the Admins!"

                                                                If the other side did this, people would just mockingly dismiss it with "LOL FREEZE PEACH!"

                                                                [–]ttumblrbots 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                • This post - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • A recap of where TIOL/DualPollux got ba... - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • recap post - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • leaked admin mail - SnapShots: 1, 2 [?]
                                                                • gossipy internet sites - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • Anderson Cooper - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • SRS has a super secret offsite forum - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • SRSsucks - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • AgainstMensRights - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • AMRsucks - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • blackladies - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]
                                                                • is contacted - SnapShots: 1, 2, 3 [?]

                                                                Anyone know an alternative to Readability? Send me a PM!

                                                                [–]Scumbag_Mike 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                This is my favorite type of drama. Normal drama just looks like arguments people are overly invested in, stuff like this feels so emotionally charged.

                                                                [–]Chiburger 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                Moderater/poweruser drama is the saddest flavor of popcorn.

                                                                [–]ChezMere 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Huh. It looks like the admins may actually be starting... to apply their rules consistently?

                                                                [–]kidney_tickler 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                The thread in Circlebroke is really something.

                                                                Where has the veneer of smugness gone?

                                                                [–]Mega_pooh_bear 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (89子コメント)

                                                                Oh wow is there any other way to interpret KrispyKrackers response as "pisses off racists?"

                                                                [–]ZippityZoppity 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                Yeah, I mean, they say that TIOL regularly breaks site rules. It doesn't matter if it's in a shitty subreddit or what, dems da rules.

                                                                [–]madmax_410 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                plus TIOL was hilariously overly hostile to everything that didn't 100% agree with her. Being passionate is good, but feeling so strongly about opinions you show incredible bias in everything you do is bad.

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                                                                  [–]kapuasuite 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  It could just as easily be interpreted as "brigading and vote manipulation in racist subs," which is obviously not kosher.

                                                                  [–]Vibster 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                  She's probably going to subreddits she doesn't like and mass downvoting everything with alt accounts. Or calling in twitter followers/irc mates to do the same.

                                                                  [–]sibeliushelp 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Then why wouldn't the Admin say that?

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                                                                    [–]jizzmcskeet 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    There is. The admins don't care what the subreddits are about as long as they don't break any laws or site wide rules. If someone interferes with the subreddit via vote manipulation or whatever, it doesn't matter if the subreddit effected has shitty views. They aren't judging the content, only the actions. It's pretty simple.

                                                                    [–]witchsbrew 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (61子コメント)

                                                                    I really wonder why Reddit bends over backwards to accomodate so much hate speech and ugly crap. They only really started going after the pedos and creepshots after CNN did their story.

                                                                    [–]Vibster 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (42子コメント)

                                                                    Ban it all and you have to hire a whole bunch of people to police it. Take the hands off approach and you don't have to do jack shit.

                                                                    If I was running reddit I know what I would do.

                                                                    [–]TheMauveHand 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                    They never went against creepshots. They still don't. The content in that sub never went against site rules, and still doesn't. the sub was banned for other stuff, mostly the usual brigading. And jailbait wasn't cracked down on for moral reasons either, the legal lines simply were too blurred for any reasonable enforcement.

                                                                    Anyway, to answer your question: because reddit has always been run under the philosophy of "Don't like it? Leave and make your own!", and hat applies to both subreddits and the very site itself, as the source is public. Reddit doesn't bend over backwards, in fact, it's the exact opposite: they turn a blind eye, as long as the lines between subreddits are maintained. That's the way reddit is supposed to work.

                                                                    Not to mention the fact that several reddit admins have stated that everything that's legal is fine on reddit, and even some things that are not (I'm looking at you /r/trees). If you want a site that polices based on a more stringent, subjective moral code, I suggest Facebook. Honestly, I would have suggested something less ridiculous but even Tumblr, bastion of the SJ(W) movement, doesn't ban racism or hate speech or, hell, hardly even doxing.

                                                                    [–]IamShadowBanned2 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Not to mention the fact that several reddit admins have stated that everything that's legal is fine on reddit, and even some things that are not (I'm looking at you /r/trees).

                                                                    I think /r/darknetmarkets crosses the legal line way before /r/trees does. If you need to know where to find the best meth you don't go to /r/trees lol.

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                                                                      [–]IamShadowBanned2 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                      It's almost like it's a company more concerned with expanding it's user base and relative market share than acting as the moral beacon of the internet.

                                                                      Shocking.

                                                                      [–]BurntJoint 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      They only really started going after the pedos and creepshots after CNN did their story.

                                                                      And stopped once people forgot about it. The fact that /r/CandidFashionPolice still exists is pretty disgusting as its literally just creepshots v2.0

                                                                      [–]FedoraBorealis 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      He'll they don't even care about a sub that was designed to advocate and spread around stolen nudes so really none of this is surprising. I'm sure they're getting some nice traffic because of this.

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                                                                            [–]kichenproblems 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            Sometimes I want to make a sub like /r/AgainstSRSSucks cause then it would be a subreddit complaining about a subreddit complaining about a subreddit complaining about comments on other subreddits

                                                                            [–]InsomnicGamer 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            I would get there and not even know what circlejerk to jump on

                                                                            [–]Alchemistmerlin 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Antidisestablishmentarianism

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                                                                              [–]Zombies_hate_ninjas 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                              "We fully support freedom of speach and expression. . . unless people say something we don't like. Reddit should IP ban people. . .people of our choice" SRS

                                                                              These people spend way too much of their daily lives being offended. It must be exhausting.

                                                                              Also since I spoke negatively about SRS, let the "organic" down voting begin.

                                                                              [–]awrf[S] 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                              Careful! You forgot the universal Reddit organic voting rule: always downvote anyone who talks about downvotes.

                                                                              [–]Zombies_hate_ninjas 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              I'm doomed.

                                                                              [–]One_Two_Three_Four_ 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              At least you doomed yourself organically. No Genetically Modified Votes for you.

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                                                                                [–]FISSION_CHIPS 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                We fully support freedom of speach and expression

                                                                                Did I miss something? When has SRS ever said reddit should have more freedom of speech?

                                                                                [–]longfoot 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                Pretty sure they want less freedom for people to say things they don't like.

                                                                                They say that "freeze peaches" meme over and over.

                                                                                [–]kidney_tickler 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                "We fully support freedom of speach and expression"

                                                                                I don't think SRS has ever been big on that.

                                                                                Also since I spoke negatively about SRS, let the "organic" down voting begin.

                                                                                Bit melodramatic.

                                                                                [–]StandWithLilith 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                You could probably tone it down with the tired clichés and the downvote paranoia though.

                                                                                [–]Jackal_6 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Victim blaming and tone policing in the same post, oh boy!

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                                                                                    [–]hadhad69 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    I'm kinda glad I have no fucking idea whats this post is about but I'm gonna read some of this shit anyway.

                                                                                    [–]libbykino 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    I can't keep track of all the meta subreddits. There's meta-anti-meta subreddits now. Metas all the way down...

                                                                                    [–]evadcobra1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Holy fuck, SRS takes Redditing too seriously, sheesh

                                                                                    [–]postirony 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                    Might be futile to ask this 400 some comments down, but this post got me thinking about something that's been bugging me on and off for at least a year; is there any credible academic work on the prevelance of bigotry on reddit?

                                                                                    [–]Socks_Junior 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                    I wrote a lengthy research paper last year on white supremacist networking on the internet, and I found no articles that talked about either reddit or 4chan, despite spending quite some time searching. Most of the articles I found on the subject were rather dated. The most recently written one I used in the paper came from 2009, and was about the history of Stormfront. Academics sadly tend to be behind the curve when it comes to studying online social networks.

                                                                                    [–]postirony 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    That's unfortunate. Thanks for the info, though, at least I know not to waste my time looking.

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                                                                                      [–]IsADragon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      It's kind of funny seeing the back and forth from users on SRS and SRSsucks when an admin does something they agree with. And then back to hating the admins when they do something they don't agree with.

                                                                                      [–]larrylemur 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      Go into store. Pick up some stuff. Walk out without paying. God, why are these police targeting me?

                                                                                      [–]InsomnicGamer 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      Rules don't matter because racism is bad.

                                                                                      [–]GrumDarf 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      Your actions and character are not important in the slightest, what's important is that you espouse the right opinions!

                                                                                      [–]Sagemanx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      When is there going to be a sub for jewish/nativeamerican/nords? I feel like I'm the only one sometimes.

                                                                                      [–]mollymollykelkel[🍰] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      I don't know anything about why she was actually banned but /u/krispykrackers totally botched that message. Just say why you're banning a person vs. whatever that was. Being vague about it will only get you shit.

                                                                                      [–]BadKeyMachine 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                      shouldn't we know about the top-secret message board on account of us being Literally SRS

                                                                                      [–]CATHOLIC_EXTREMIST 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                      shouldn't we know about the top-secret message board on account of us being Literally SRS

                                                                                      It's Thefempire.org

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                                                                                        [–][deleted] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                        fuck this racist, pedo enabling website.

                                                                                        fuck reddit so fucking much

                                                                                        This is so buttery

                                                                                        [–]NeroOfRome 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                        Racist, pedo-enabling.

                                                                                        Don't people usually say that about /b/? Saw a loli thread there.

                                                                                        [–]Red_Oktoberfest 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                        Seeing a loli thread on /b/ is like seeing a drug dealer at burning man.

                                                                                        [–]NeroOfRome 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        Extremely common? And /b/ isn't that bad after the porn.

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