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This is NOT your Fap Day Friday post (self.gaybros)

blaisewilson が 投稿

According to new subreddit rules "Fap Day Friday" is no longer allowed as a weekly post. This thread is to provide a place for conversation on the topic and discuss both sides of the issue. I am open to hear others opinions, but would like to let it be known that I am largely in favor of continuing the Fap Day Friday weekly posts. They are always upvoted and have a lot of quality videos and comments posted.

Based on the top three comments (at the time of writing this) of the State of the Subreddit post by mod /u/-mass, it would appear that a large percentage of the users are in favor of keeping Fap Day Friday. Despite the immediate, and overwhelming opposition to the new rule /u/-mass insists that we wait a month to see how people like it, and only after a month of voiced opposition will he consider the option of bringing it back.

My argument is that the users of /r/gaybros have already made their opinion clear with their comments and votes on the "State of the Subreddit" thread. FDF is something that I always look forward to and believe that many other users feel the same way. But since we have to play by the rules I am creating this post for people to voice their opinion. Mine is obvious, but I encourage conversation on the topic.

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[–]blaisewilson[S] 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (4子コメント)

For anyone who doesn't like Fap Day Friday, or any other NSFW posts for that matter, I suggest Reddit Enhancement Suite. It provides the option to filter NSFW threads, so if anyone is uncomfortable with them they won't be subjected to the content without having to censor others redditors experience.

[–]hatessw 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Easier still.

content options I am over eighteen years old and willing to view adult content (required to view some subreddits)

RES not required.

[–]wetlurker 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Further, most iOS and Android reddit apps have a "Hide NSFW tags" option--which is normally toggled on by default.

[–]owlparliamentarian 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heck, if the mods really wanted to filter /r/gaybros, it's entirely possible to add a CSS option for viewing just this subreddit in only-SFW mode!

[–]Captain-Steve#brOMG -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the other hand:

  • Many NSFW posts aren't labelled as such, making the filter useless.
  • Using the filters don't make the subreddit SFW as a whole. If your boss were to check out the subreddit, you'd be seen as visiting a NSFW subreddit even if you were using the filter.
  • Content breeds content.
  • There are plenty of NSFW subreddits

[–]tuckertucker 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (11子コメント)

You know, for a subreddit, and community of people in general that seems to be sex positive and pretty damn open to having honest conversations about sex (and not just for sexual gratification, but advice/questions/opinion pieces), this is a very conservative decision.

Is it because the mods are worried that in the future, if the subreddit grows, we don't want people to see us as sex-obsessed gays? Sunday Studs just reminds me of silly nudity laws in the US: sexual objectification is okay, but NO PRIVATE AREAS! Sunday Studs is still going to be about sex. Just because you can't see their penis does not mean you won't be thinking (and talking about, since I expect and hope sexual comments will not be deleted) his penis, and ass, and all the fun bits of a man.

This is still a subreddit ultimately devoted to sexuality. The one single basic common denominator that brings us here is being queer. Even those of you who are straight (no scare quotes, I know we have truly straight subscribers) are here because of the queer theme. You sure as fuck aren't here for football discussions or you'd be in /r/nfl . Sexuality will be a common theme in many posts, and covering up a penis in pictures isn't changing that.

I probably won't miss FDF all that much, since I am perfectly adept at finding my own porn, but I hate decisions that are based on flawed logic with absolutely no input from the greater community. Sure, there definitely has been opposition. But there's opposition to every decision ever made in the history of humanity.

[–]watchitbub 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

For as many times as I've endured WTF posts of close-up shots of labias tied in knots or women shooting ping pong balls out of their asses, I think a little bit of dick once a week isn't going to hurt anyone. Reddit it absolutely packed with NSFW content, but almost none of it gay, except here. This is the tiny refuge where we get to have similar kind of fun.

Fuck respectability.

[–]ihazcheese 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I probably won't miss FDF all that much, since I am perfectly adept at finding my own porn, but I hate decisions that are based on flawed logic with absolutely no input from the greater community.

Exactly how I feel about the whole thing. I made a comment earlier about the exact same thing. It doesn't bother me too much that it's gone, but it's still bullshit none the less.

[–]vanisaac 118 ポイント119 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not having visited the "state of the subreddit" post, I was highly disappointed not to see the FDF post show up at its regular time. Making that kind of decision unilaterally was pretty autocratic and short-sighted of -mass, andI would urge him to revert that decision until the community expresses the desire to retire the theme.

[–]blaisewilson[S] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wholeheartedly agree. He says there has been opposition to FDF in /r/gaybors, but fails to provide any evidence of that. And frankly, even if he did have the evidence, there are many more people for it than against it.

[–]AeroblopBromantic Fool 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just got downvoted when I said this in the State of the Subreddit thread...

[–]camtns 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you delete that comment? I didn't see it, but may have overlooked it.

[–]AeroblopBromantic Fool 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, I simply said that removing FDF will get some criticism, and that it will be sorely missed.

[–]owlparliamentarian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Adding my support here. And if it hasn't changed, I'll sure as fuck be in the same thread in a month telling /u/-Mass that this unilateral change isn't needed and isn't wanted.

[–]gobluemi 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I came here for FDF.

[–]KSMO 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What? No -- just no. I mean there's plenty of porn on the internet (trust me on this one) but FDF was always a well-curated feast for the senses. Who is asking for this? This is just like Time Warner CEO's claim that "People don't want faster internet" - a way out of touch sentiment from the gatekeeper of information that the public wants -nee- demands.

[–]hatessw 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean there's plenty of porn on the internet (trust me on this one)

[Citations required]

[–]timetide 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait, we're not doing FDF anymore? I'm not going to lie i kindof looked forward to it every week. well fuck, i guess there's other reasons to visit this sub but what kindof idiot would get rid of what for many is the main draw?

[–]larrygopnik 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I find it strange that this is even an issue. I appreciate this subreddit because it features many different topics, all of them pertinent to our lives. Masturbation is pertinent... some might say essential. Removing Fap Day Friday for a month ostensibly stigmatizes this aspect of sexual expression, and I don't think that's helpful, especially on a sub like this.

[–]SevenAugust 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. This. Why make us defend our fapping? It's demeaning.

[–]taurus1951 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Disclosure, boomer gay male here. Every week, I have looked forward to the Fap Day Friday postings. I am saddened at this effort to sanitize and de-sexualize Gaybros. What's next I wonder, will any references to sex outside of a committed relationship be barred as well? George Orwell was so prescient with his book "1984". Does "Big Brother" now have gay co-conspirators?

[–]camtns 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's high time we ban any discussion or pictures of the movie scenes where you see a bit of butt for half a second, and we definitely can't look at any football players and their sinful midriffs. And God forbid someone mention that they find another man attractive; we don't need any more manharlots around here wearing their slutty tank tops and exposing their shoulders like the neighborhood prostitute.

We need to be ever vigilant because a teenager might run across some porn on the internet!!

[–]tittycloudBROmar Epps 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like they're trying to neuter the subreddit.

[–]dilfybrobi 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Here's what's not going to happen: In one month, a bunch of gaybros conclude: "Wow, I don't want porn after all."

If the mod is putting that down as a condition, it will be easily met.

If he backtracks and bans it, I predict - mass exodus to /r/aybros or whatever new subreddit crops up.

[–]hatessw 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does anyone still even remember dotcomgate, where the mods suddenly revealed their plans for a separate website before consulting the community?

The users revolted. The mods backtracked. Result: the more things changed, the more they stayed the same.

If there's anything we may have learned from that, it seems to be that the mods are not afraid to try new approaches, and revert stuff when it appears not to work.

I give it a good chance this will be a repeat of that part of history.

[–]camtns 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I loved that controversy, and also love that people never seem to learn anything.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaybros/comments/16k4mq/re_announcement_addressing_some_concerns/

[–]hohnsenhoff 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was interesting to read!

[–]Captain-Steve#brOMG -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A dedicated website isn't a bad idea. Reddit is a rather poor platform for a large community. Content cycles through incredibly fast (on a daily rotation) making any discussions longer than a day difficult. The large variety of content is also incredibly difficult to separate without using multiple subreddits (which is difficult at best).

[–]blaisewilson[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

LOL I agree, though I really don't see the backtracking scenario as likely to happen, I have created /r/aybros/ just incase. For the time being, I encourage people to direct Fap Day Friday posts there until the ban here is lifted, though I don't intend to keep the subreddit active unless /r/gaybros doesn't reevaluate the new rules.

I really don't think /u/-mass was trying to do any harm to the subreddit at all, he is probably just trying to make it better. But there is obviously great opposition to the new rules, and I feel that should be the paramount concern.

[–]GeekAndDestroy 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/aybros is a crappy subreddit name. How about /r/ainbros?

[–]ianfw617 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the reason for the month long ban is largely so that by the time the month is over, few people will still be upset enough to be complaining at that point and the mods can point to this an say "See? People don't mind that FDF is gone"

[–]jarchm02 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I first stating following this sub one of the draws was the changing daily topic. FDF was the most popular at the time. As the other daily topics grew so did FDF. One month will be a long time just to attempt to prove one person's point. I don't remember there being a vote on this or the option being opened up to the community.

[–]tittycloudBROmar Epps 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a stupid decision. I don't even participate in FDF, but it's what makes this place feel like /r/gaybros. Also we're men, why can't we talk about porn/sex? Porn recommendations is a great way for discussion. It's much better than, "look at this shirtless bro, unfh" which is what "Sunday Studs" sounds like.

And seriously who thought the name "Sunday Studs" was a good idea? What are we middle aged soccer moms? Seriously "stud" is the lamest term I've never used. "hot dudes, celebs, and athletes"? Sounds like ladyboners. This is gaybros, let's get some buttsex up in here.

Also the layout is dumb. Now this sub looks just like every other sub. The old layout gave this place some individuality. Now we look like a fantasy football subreddit. Bring the old layout back and bring Fap Day Friday back.

Edit: also Sonic Saturday > Song Saturday. It's like these mods forgot how to be creative.

[–]jerichojerry 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ok. Lesbi honest. Gaybros is supposed to be a men's interest community built around shared interests. Unfortunately you can't ask, "what is a gay bro?" So clarifying exactly what those interests are has been impossible (I defy you to prove that r/gaybros is about sports, cars, grilling, military issues, working out, gadgets and gear). Its mostly about coming out, pride, location specific promotion, and gay issues - and why wouldn't it be? When you think about another random gay guy what do the two of you have in common? They or may not like clubbing, or sports, or video games, or grilling. One thing you KNOW they have in common though: they like dick. Give us back our porn. Its the glue holding us together.

[–]rueteroTeacher Bro 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Give us back our porn. Its the glue holding us together.

You know what you did there...

[–]jerichojerry 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The salty, soap scented glue.

[–]rueteroTeacher Bro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really? I always thought it smelled mildly of bleach to be honest.

[–]bribri_22 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let there be fapping on Fridays!!

[–]kiwiwolf314 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The community = the subreddit...note the mods. If the people want it, then to hell with the mods.

[–]ihazcheese 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

^

[–]riffiesbropilot 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always looked forward to FDF. Kinda ridiculous to make an across the board change like this. If there are people that don't like it then don't open the thread. It's not like there aren't other topics on Fridays.

[–]white_wee_wee 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Porn is not allowed. You may link to it in a clearly-NSFW-tagged comment, but not submit it as its own post. Read the FAQ

Also either ban porn all together or don't ban it all, what's stopping people from creating an off topic thread and just filling it with porn, it's literally not solved any problems.

[–]ihazcheese 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

"Not a porn thread, also it's Friday"

6000+ upvotes to the guy who does that, lol.

[–]ThaBasco 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Done: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaybros/comments/2fjshi/not_a_porn_thread_also_its_friday/

[–]ihazcheese 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

<3

"6000+ upvotes are currently being added to your account, thank you for your contribution sir." - Upvote Fairy

[–]MoonlightRider 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

And it's gone. :-(

[–]ThaBasco 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's still up, there just haven't been any posts yet. I'm in class so I can't post any NSFW content.

[–]MoonlightRider 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I looked at it, it had been tagged [removed]

[–]ihazcheese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It might have been "Shadow removed" if that's a thing, similar to shadow-banning someone. In a sense that only others know it's removed but you can't see that.

[–]ThaBasco 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now that's shady.

[–]ihazcheese 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it's pretty sh(itty)ady. That's what happened to Unidan at one point with his account. I'm pretty sure you can do it with specific subreddits and posts too like I speculated.

Also I find it sorta shady that this just kinda happened right out of the blue.

Heh, shady, that's a great word.

[–]ihazcheese 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hah, of course. Looks like someone is a bit perturbed that their idea didn't work out in their favor.

[–]lostboy3196 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So having a community talking about sex, sexual interests and exploring our own sexuality ONCE A WEEK in ONE THREAD was too much for our puritan mods? This sub is slowly creeping into an overly-regulated, dictatorial "community".

What a fucking waste of time this "Sunday studs" idea is. Have these idiots not visited /r/broslikeus and /r/TotallyStraight !?! These subs are exactly what this ridiculous "sunday studs" thread will be. They do not have the FDF thread look nor feel. What made FDF unique and fantastic was that it was a whole thread of VIDEOS not fucking photos that are exactly what the mentioned subs are. Not only was FDF recommended videos by people in this sub, it was also organised by merit/popularity by other people who have seen the video/s linked.

I am slowly being driven out by all these changes that seem to come out in huge chunks of changes with little to no consultation. This "trial" period should not have been implemented without consultation with the community. Instead they are ramming down this prudish, conservative month with the banning of ONE FUCKING THREAD on the last day of a long, tiring week. Thank you mods, for fucking us over again!

END RANT

Edit: I'm sorry I'm so angry. I was just really looking forward to finishing the week in a happy mood. I know the mods mean well and everything, just venting my frustrations.

[–]PurpleCometHomo-ceptional 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This move is wholly unnecessary. It seems like every time there's a mod post they do something controversial that really serves no purpose. Are they bored? Running this subreddit shouldn't be that hard and all these "experiments" just piss off the users. In a month things will be back to the way they were before, just like the /r/askgaybros BS.

[–]camtns 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sad that /u/-mass and the other mods are ashamed of sex and sexuality. Don't be afraid of your dicks, boys!

[–]shiccy[🍰] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah terrible idea to axe FDF! Definitely appreciated it!

[–]MrGreenDidntDoIt 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give this man FDF back for his cakeday!

[–]hatramroany 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How about we ban coming out posts instead? There's at least one at the top of this sub every day. After being subscribed for over a year I don't give a fuck if your straight best friend accepts you anymore. It's exhausting. Good for you but go somewhere else. This sub isn't about "acceptance" it's about bro stuff.

Note: obviously everyone is and should accepted but we don't need to talk about it, just do it.

[–]kelev 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or maybe a stickied "coming out" thread, that can be refreshed every week.

[–]werkbetch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Preach.

[–]Rhaegar71 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a way to make it so /u/-mass is no longer a mod? He seems to think its cool to enforce his morals on the rest of the sub. He has no legit reasons for banning this thread other than he doesn't want mommy and grandma to see gay porn.

[–]CondorLane 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this has been done backwards. It was obviously one of the most popular posts, the subreddit should have been asked if they wanted it removed, then IF the majority did (which we can now see they clearly don't), it could be stopped without causing any problems

[–]gabbagabba777 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck da rules. Fap day Friday is something people like, but some people find it bothers them they can't to check their god damn reddit while they are supposed to be working, and complain. Why mods would give in to that is beyond me. Here's a novel idea; GET OFF REDDIT WHILE AT WORK. Or use the enhancement suite to filter those posts while at work. Its easy, and you don't have to fuck with other people to do it.

God damn nanny state. Go 'merica.

[–]lost_bro 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The end of FDF isn't why I'm leaving gaybros, it's this ridiculous "user have demanded it" without any evidence excuses I've seen as a cop out to numerous changes on this subreddit. The mods are so out of touch, and they won't really take heed until people start leaving.

[–]RainyDay676 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When did this sub become so damn catty? The constant bitching about too many coming out or advice posts, and now an overbearing set of post rules?

[–]Skyzfallin 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm new here. Can someone explain in a few sentences why no fap friday? Did the mods find jesus or something?

[–]jaycatt7 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Old news, if so. Wake me when they find Waldo.

[–]jeremt22344 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It always seemed to me that the fap day Friday post generally moved down and off the front page relatively quickly compared to other similarly up voted posts. Can or have the MODs been artificially pushing it down already?

[–]vexillifer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Soooo is this just T minus 29 days that we have to put up with /u/-mass's bullshit and then we get our porn back?

[–]resogunner 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wrong call, -mass, wrong call.

[–]Dallasbro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait .. what??

[–]Outforbrunch 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bring it baaaack!

[–]buchannondo you even bro? 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing I'm getting out of this is that we need new mods. What a stupid blanket decision.

[–]boboverdue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the lack of community involvement in decisions that shape the subreddit pisses me off.. take away something with majorty afterall you're nothing without the people that come here..

you are your browsing habits/sensibilities are no more important than mine or the next guys

[–]i2jiyeon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

well there's no reason to stick around anymore, RIP gaybros

[–]dcjosh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love that reading these comments there's the "I want my porn/don't tell me what to do!/man, FDF was my favorite part of gaybros!/I'm leaving this sub" posts with massive upvotes and then there's the "ehhh, find porn elsewhere/who cares?/gaybros isn't about porn" with major downvotes.

If you think eliminating a porn thread on a sub like gaybros is worthy enough to make you unsubscribe...you probably never really got what the people who created this sub intended it for. You'll be missed?

[–]aec26 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

do you really have that hard of a time finding things to masturbate to that you need to get upset and think of it terms of being oppressed, that there is no longer a once a week thread of jerk off porn on an internet meesage board that has nothing to do with porn in the first place? i didnt realize jerking off was that important to people, go get laid or something. seriously. fwiw, i dont care one or or anoter about he jerk off thread, it simply surprises me so many do.

[–]24points2blue -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are literally thousands of other subreddits/websites etc. Where you can find porn of any variety. I don't see this as a huge loss. Since the end of FDF I have not masturbated any less so I guess it doesn't even matter.

[–]Captain-Steve#brOMG -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL @ encouraging conversation. Any dissenting opinions will get downvoted through the nose, just like in the last meta post.

I think it's a great idea. There are thousands of other places for porn and porn related celebrity gossip. There are tons of subreddits dedicated to gay porn. If you feel that they don't fill the niche, talk with their mods to see if they'd be interested in a weekly mega-thread or start your own subreddit.

Content breeds content. And NSFW content, even if it's one day a week, promotes others to post NSFW content on any day of the week, such as this recent post. While many post their links as NSFW, many more do not, and having the mods chasing every single post is unrealistic.

I'd also argue that having a few NSFW posts makes the entire sub NSFW. If your boss were to look at the subreddit on a friday and see a weekly porn thread, sex toy advice, and links to "gay articles" that are filled with porn ads, shit's not going to end well.

Finally, gay communities that don't revolve around porn are in the minority. Promoting that doesn't make the moderators prudes, or sex-negative. It's making a place that stands out.