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[–]Redditditdadoo 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (30子コメント)

It might be alright for a sitcom, but even as a John Mulaney fan, I don't think I'll be able to watch it. It looks to be an extremely cheesy sitcom with a laugh track. I just can't watch a TV show with audience laughter in it these days, real or simulated.

[–]Aikidi 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Really? I feel like Seinfeld has stood up just fine despite the laugh track. Does it really bother you that much? I feel like it's very popular to say that laughtracks kill shows on reddit but it's really not that big a deal if the show is solid.

[–]Redditditdadoo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

really not that big a deal if the show is solid.

The show can't be solid in my opinion if every character pauses after stupid jokes for "laughter". Just from the trailer for Mulaney, there's a joke that I don't think anyone would laugh at, but they pause for "laughter".

[–]Aikidi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's just a different kind of timing, clearly sitcoms with laughter from an audience or track are a format that work pretty well for a lot of people. If it's not your thing that's fine but it doesn't make it shitty.

[–]Redditditdadoo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I didn't say it was shitty, did I? Anyways I'm obviously just sharing my opinion.

[–]Aikidi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah but "I don't think Mulaney will be any good because I hate traditional sitcoms" is sort of an obtuse opinion to be sharing. It would be like if I offered my opinion that I think Chuck Palahniuk's next novel is going to suck because I hate literary fiction, or whether or not I think Ninja Turtles sucked because I hate action movies. You're not giving us insight on the show, you're just letting everyone know you don't like traditional sitcoms.

[–]Redditditdadoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Not really.. I'm just sharing the opinion that I formed from all of the previews. What makes it obtuse?

[–]Aikidi -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because you obviously aren't going to like Mulaney if you don't like shows with laughtracks. That's obvious.

[–]Redditditdadoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm certainly not expecting to. Do you have a problem with that?

[–]Aikidi -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol are you trying to start a fight or something? Are you going to ask me to take it outside next? I think I made my point completely clear.

[–]zephyrtr 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

No laugh track in Seinfeld. That was always a live audience. Very different feel compared to canned laughter. That made Big Bang Theory completely unwatchable to me.

[–]Aikidi 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

(Big Bang Theory has a live audience. You can get tickets here http://the-big-bang-theory.com/tickets/)

[–]BasketCaseSensitive 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Usually they enhance the live studio audience's laughter.

Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YguljAFU3Bc

[–]Aikidi 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well yeah, they also use voice overs and shit in HIMYM. Mix Engineers affect all sorts of audio stuff like that. They also cut out any early/inapprorpiate laughers and fade off the ends of stuff that lasts too long (this is why you never once hear a random single laugh on sitcoms.)

[–]zephyrtr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Since when?

[–]Aikidi 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Since the show started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idhcAFFW4Ro

Unless they went back and laughtracked their bloopers too.

[–]zephyrtr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shucks howdy, I didn't know!

[–]Aikidi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. Granted I don't think all of those jokes feel like they land as well as the audience acts, but it's one of those things where I think being in a room with a bunch of people laughing starts to get kind of contagious.

There was a really great quote that I wish I could attribute about the tragedy that is the death of live theater. It was something like "the real beauty of live theater isn't seeing the actors perform live. That can be captured by film. The real beauty is being in an audience where somebody might laugh at something you would never laugh at, or gasp where you wouldn't have. You would have never considered the humor or shock in that scenario without someone else reacting."

[–]zephyrtr 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you've seen Finding Neverland, there's a scene where for opening night of Peter Pan they dot the seats with 25 kids to help the adults in the audience "get it." It's pretty cool; no idea if that actually happened or not.

[–]BasketCaseSensitive 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Agreed. I may jump in on the second season once they're done reusing his standup bits.

[–]DanielMcLaury 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I assume they're just reusing his existing standup for the promos so that they don't give the new stuff away.

[–]zephyrtr 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Really? Laugh tracks are awful, totally agree, but no audience feels kinda weird to me.

[–]Redditditdadoo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Shows without audience laughter feel weird to you? How so?

[–]zephyrtr 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think it's a Pavlovian expectation thing? Something that looks like a sitcom (multicam) ought to sound like a sitcom, which means live audience laughter. If it's singlecam, like Louie or Arrested Development, it doesn't bother me.

[–]Redditditdadoo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Do you have an example of something that looks like a sitcom but doesn't sound like one that makes it weird? I don't really understand what you mean.

Maybe I wasn't clear, but the laugh track is not the only problem I have with these shows, it's the set and the camera style too. Cheesy looking sitcoms.

[–]BasketCaseSensitive 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

New Girl.

[–]bandit515 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

New Girl isn't a multi-cam show. Though it is a situational comedy, single cam shows aren't typically associated with laugh tracks because by nature of how they're shot there isn't a live audience and as such don't necessitate the pauses in performances to accommodate that laughter. Try watching a multi-cam sitcom without it's laugh track, it accentuates the spacing they have to leave for laughter.

Multi-cam sitcoms and laugh tracks are hold overs from the limitations of the era when cameras could not weigh less than 100 lbs. I would guess that in the early days of television, ticket sales for a live taping were creative ways of generating extra income for the production.

[–]Redditditdadoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've only seen one episode of New Girl, but I didn't like it. It's probably fair to say I'd put that in cheesy sitcom territory, even without a laughtrack. It would probably be worse with a laughtrack though..

[–]zephyrtr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree sitcom sets do often LOOK like a set, but whatever. It's goofy stuff, we're all just here to have fun.

[–]Redditditdadoo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I just don't watch them anymore, too many good shows out there to waste my free time on stuff I know I don't like.