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/r/openbrokeEvidently "interfering with the culture" of a racist subreddit is now a bannable offense on this site. (self.circlebroke)

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A moderator of /r/blackladies was recently shadowbanned in the wake of a wave of trolling the sub experienced from r/GreatApes and r/AMRsucks following the Michael Brown shooting. When the mod made an inquiry to the admins about it they received this message in response:

Honestly, you mess with the normal function of the site, impose your ire on, and interfere with the culture of certain specifically charged subreddits. You do this constantly, and it's been going on for a really fucking long time. I don't know why you keep talking about doxing unless you have a guilty conscience or something, but that's neither here nor there. That's your answer.

More context is here. Not sure if I'm getting the full story there, but it looks an awful lot like the admins are getting more pissed off at the ones being trolled than the trolls themselves.

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[–]Dogeball_new 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Admins are apparently trying so hard to keep holding the "middle ground" and appearance of being "neutral" that they ended being pro-racist, pro-creep assholes. And still they are somehow unable to see what they have become.

I hope the poor white supremacists will not have precious subreddit culture broken by AMR and SRS!

[–]FrugalNinja 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If AMR or SRS tries anything they will have their subreddits banned in an instant and you know it. Only way reddit can change is if the culture changes.

[–]vonunov 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol, interfering with the culture. What is this, Star Trek with the Prime Directive? Got to let the specifically charged racist "cultures" evolve naturally, right?

[–]sp0ck06 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Fuck the admins of this site. Shit like /r/fatpeoplehate and /r/greatapes is perfectly normal and wonderful.... but the slightest hint of "doxxing" and the hammer comes down? Bunch of fucking pussies, both the admins and users.

[–]drawlinnn 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're so afraid of having their reddit account tied to their real life. Hmmm I wonder why that is....

[–]CharliePancakes 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I like how great users like unidan who spoke out against racism and debunked racist copypastas while teaching us about science get banned. But offensive subreddits are okay from greatapes to rapingwomen to fatpeoplehate to cutefemalecorpses

[–]aryan_crayon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

it's almost like he broke the site rules... a lot of grasping at straws in here as usual. the guy had 5+ (probably more) accounts that he would use to game the system. apparently this person also has a history of doing things against the rules, you're backing the wrong horse. obviously racist trolls are douchecanoes, but that don't excuse this person's inability to function within the site's rules

[–]Discord_Dancing 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amen.

This entire thread is confounding.

[–]CharliePancakes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know he broke the rules but its funny how unidan and this woman get banned for breaking the rules while hate subreddits exist that participate in regular raids and harassment of other subs. They can forgive wannabee kkk members but not a man who actively improved the site.

[–]MillenniumFalc0n 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well one of these things is against the rules, and one isn't. Though there is certainly room to argue about what the rules should be.

[–]chaanach 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those users get shadowbanned all the time though. It's just not as noticeable since nobody likes them.

[–]BRDtheist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The point is that at least Unidan did SOME good while he broke the rules. These people are pure horrific shite and get away with it all for the most part.

[–]Discord_Dancing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"These people" get banned on the reg. Their account names are a constant revolving door.

Their subs don't get banned because they don't run brigades out of their mod mails.

They don't get away with anything, they get banned like everyone else - they just don't care because they're all basically alts.

[–]Discord_Dancing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm confused, are you saying that doxxing should be allowed?

[–]RoboticParadox 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (9子コメント)

lel reddit admins can go fuck themselves

something tells me intortus got budged out because he had a goddamned conscience.

[–]FullClockworkOddessy 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Turns out that the only people left who want reddit on their resumés are typical redditors chasing the ultimate impotent power trip.

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    [–]intortus 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Erik's actually a really great guy. He's not the only person steering the ship.

    [–]RoboticParadox -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    well I didn't know that

    I just aimed my hate at the highest available target. Plus him and Alexis doing nothing about VA really soured my opinions on the two of them.

    [–]aryan_crayon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    you're a sad, angry person

    [–]RoboticParadox 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    never said I wasn't

    kek

    [–]TheVoiceofTheDevil 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I would be okay if this site stopped existing. I sometimes like using it. I have subreddits that I like. But it would probably be for the best.

    [–]ZombieHeyHeyHeyHeyOh 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (17子コメント)

    Oh hey the admins are possibly mistreating someone who happens to be a black woman? Well that automatically makes this an SJ issue, take it to openbroke!

    [–]BRDtheist 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (16子コメント)

    She doesn't "happen" to be a black woman. The whole brigading/trolling thing is happening because of race, and a lot of what DualPollux does on reddit that has apparently pissed the admins off so much is to do with race and racism. I may be off base here, but I don't think race can be seen as irrelevant.

    Having said that: this is bigger than a CJ, and big regardless of the racism involved, and shouldn't just be shoved over into OB.

    [–]Discord_Dancing 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Just because she was banned for breaking the rules for reasons we agree with doesn't mean she still didn't break the rules.

    [–]gavinbrindstar 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (10子コメント)

    TIOL has been shadowbanned for doxxing before, she brigades, she does all of the things that a person would usually get banned for, and she was banned.

    And is there any proof, or is it just the VA Mobius all over again?

    [–]Discord_Dancing 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

    I edited that because there is no way in hell im digging around for her old Puck_marin screenshots (which I will admit was fucking hilarious).

    I agree with TIOL and her cause, but if you're gonna toe the line then at some point you have to get over the fact that you may get banned. No?

    [–]gavinbrindstar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    But that's still the issue. How was she "toeing the line?"

    [–]Discord_Dancing 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Well she wasn't apparently - since she got banned.

    No one has stated why she got banned, and that's somehow being construed as "there was no reason."

    Anyone who has spent time in the metaverse knows of TIOL's antics, and while we enjoy them immensely because she targets assholes we can all agree are assholes, that doesn't change the fact that she has a history of rule breaking.

    [–]gavinbrindstar 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    From what I saw, she was banned for "interfering in the culture if another subreddit," AKA not letting racists fuck up her sub. That doesn't seem like toeing the line at all.

    [–]Discord_Dancing 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    And I saw "mess with the normal function of the site," which could be spam, or vote brigading. Those are actually against the rules.

    [–]fourcrew 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'd be fine if she got shadowbanned for breaking rules but if she did then krispy should be totally clear about which rules she broke. Plus, aren't the white supremacists breaking the rules by raiding /r/blackladies? They should be getting bans too.

    [–]gavinbrindstar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Then why didn't they say "spam" or "vote brigading?"

    The only thing that I've seen her do is speak out against the crazy amount of shittyness on this site.

    Which I guess is "messing with the normal function of the site."

    [–]hatmoose 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    ok what rule

    [–]Discord_Dancing -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ask her? for all we know she voted on something she linked to in mod mail. We can apparently rule out dox.

    Have the admins ever banned someone for not breaking any rules? Come on...

    [–]RoboticParadox 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I mean...the king of CB submitted this. Looks like an especially shitty case then.

    [–]BRDtheist 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    As much as this is shitty and definitely worth talking about, I am finding it quite funny that the first post after the meta sticky stating "no more SJ posts" is.... a SJ post.

    Not that I mind. I love complaining about bigotry! I don't have much to say on this topic though because, well, it's just baffling me. I can't wrap my head around it.

    [–]fourcrew 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think we can make exceptions for special cases like this.

    [–]BRDtheist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I figured as much, it just gave me a giggle that's all!

    [–]Vecced 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well that's just depressing.

    [–]shhhhquiet 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    "Interfering with the culture" of other subs is what gets me. They said they didn't see any evidence of 'interference' when /r/blackladies was deluged with racist content, but she, one person, is somehow 'interfering?' With what? Racists' right to be racist in a community for black women?

    They told them to take their sub private to stop the brigading. But one person going and yelling at a bunch of bigots? Why, she might hurt their feelings!

    [–]BRDtheist 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Exactly. This is what people aren't getting. I don't know if they know just how much shit places like r/blackladies put up with or what, but this is a case of punishing one prominent person to... I don't know, make an example of them? Because they're "annoying" to you (the admins) whereas the disgusting racists keep themselves out of your hair unless they're put there by said "annoying" user?

    [–]Benthetraveler 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I find it ironic that the admin in question is called krackers. Kristine Smith is actually in "Advertising Support" so no idea why she would even handle this.

    Oh wait.

    [–]Tacodude 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Admins, please go fuck yourselves.

    [–]Benthetraveler 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    They are fucking themselves. It's 10 years and this shitsite still hasn't turned any profit. At one point people will just realize that a bunch of angry creepy young males that share cp and other shit on a site aren't the best target to be monetized. And they will stop funding this garbage. And anybody working at reddit can go find a new job and when asked he can talk about this great project he worked on. Will especially be funny for the community managers.

    The smart kids already got out long ago.

    [–]CharliePancakes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Has it really not turned any profit? With the sheer amount of users?

    [–]LemonFrosted 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Profit on the internet is paradoxical.

    You need a huge userbase to monetize (or you need to very efficiently monetize a small user base) but that increases your infrastructure overhead. It's very, very easy for that overhead to out-strip the returns from monetization.

    I help run a small website and we would actually make less money if our audience doubled because we'd need to upgrade our hosting setup, which would cost more per month than the ad revenue gains from increased traffic.

    [–]CharliePancakes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Interesting. I guess thats why they whore out the gold so much nowadays. I figured theyd be able to sell data to advertisers for money too.

    [–]Benthetraveler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Users are cost, especially if you run so little advertisement. Ads are also poorly managed on reddit.

    They planned to be on the green in Q3 this year I think but we've heard that plenty of time.

    [–]jerkfirecracker004 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So that makes you.... ?

    [–]Benthetraveler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Smart kids as in employees. Luckily I don't work for reddit.

    [–]chaanach 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No don't say that

    that user in the screenshot gets banned all the time for doxxing and causing massive shitstorms. That part is left out so that the admins seem all evil and whatever

    search up idesoflight on SRD or /r/drama or whatever.

    [–]geoff- 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't know what like any of the acronyms in this thread mean I think this is a good sign that web culture has progressed faster than I can keep up which means I'm getting old which means I am dying.

    And drama in real life is weird. Drama on the internet with strangers is really really really really weird.

    Add the rampant racism and sexism and I think my 8 years of reddit has just met its end.

    Do I retire to yahoo or something where do I go

    [–]DorianNewgang 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You start sharing /r/forwardsfromgrandma stuff on facebook

    [–]die_civ_scum 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So reddit is now officially a hate site.

    [–]I_love_Hopslam 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Is there a circlejerk?

    [–]mybaltimoreaccount 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The admins and the racists seem to be getting pretty hot and heavy with one another.

    [–]Benthetraveler 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You could say...circles are being formed.

    [–]Paradox 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Whats funny is, the "racists" as you put it feel the exact opposite. You could probably find "the admins and sjws seem to be getting pretty hot and heavy with one another" in one of their shithole subreddits

    [–]AskedToRise 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    An officially sanctioned one

    [–]I_love_Hopslam 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I clicked all the links and, unless I am missing something, this post does not contain a circlejerk.

    It contains racists and other bad things but where is the circlejerk?

    [–]MillenniumFalc0n 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well, SRS is a circlejerk subreddit, this post is just a continuation of the circlejerk

    [–]316nuts 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Not sure if I'm getting the full story there

    you're not.. but.. carry on anyway

    [–]zweli2 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    care to elaborate?

    [–]YouArentReasonable 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/2ff17g/meta_the_admins_are_now_banning_black_women_who/

    [–]Jai_Guru_Deva 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This really fucks me up on the inside. I can just imagine how she feels, having to deal with this bullshit and then having the "authorities" who are supposed to help her, turn on her. It must feel really fucking claustrophobic and depressing as hell.

    [–]RoboticParadox 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fucking hell that admin is a simpering little prick

    That thread made me so angry. IOL/dualpollux was always one of my favorite users, she did nothing to deserve this.

    [–]dhamster[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    http://i.imgur.com/Aopepn6.jpg

    I looked in the threads in /r/SRSsucks and /r/AMRsucks that popped up in "other discussions" but I couldn't find anything in there that shed further light on the ban. I'd be happy to edit my post if I'm missing something.

    [–]srdidan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Some /r/AMRsucks users said they reported /u/dualpollux to the admins for sending harassing PMs and brigading one of their threads around the time she was shadowbanned.

    The SRS writeup is ridiculous. I really, really doubt she was shadowbanned for speaking out against racist harassment. She appears to have a history of breaking rules herself (she's been shadowbanned before as /u/theidesoflight). My guess is the admins were short with her because they knew she knew what she was doing.

    [–]gavinbrindstar 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    She was shadowbanned as Ides for the "crime" of having an alt, which something that is so incredibly common on this site that banning for it is just ridiculous. Many people have alts, admit to having alts, and aren't banned. The alt thing was an excuse, she was banned for being visible.

    [–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You're just making up a story and pretending it's fact!

    [–]syllabic 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Also running a tumblr to doxx redditors but hey she's on our side so FUCK YOU ADMINS GO TEAM SRS /jerkjerkjerk

    People here cheer the admins when they ban people they don't like, and cry like babies when they ban someone they do like. Nobody here cares about the rules really, they only care that they are enforced as a weapon in their favor.

    [–]drawlinnn 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    And what tumblr is this?

    [–]MillenniumFalc0n 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It was named predditors

    [–]Paradox 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If the hypocrisy here was a bell, you could hear it around the world. Jesus christ. Everyone jerking here cheers when the admins (cough intortus) bans anyone they dislike, but as soon as they ban someone you like, the admins are literally shit right?

    Don't know why I'm so upset, its always been apparent that double-standards were a key component of SJW beliefs

    [–]Ravage123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Working what about the religious subs?

    [–]dantheman_woot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Call me naive, but I can't believe an official employee of Reddit would use that kind of language with a user.

    [–]stormin5532 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jesus. And when i thought reddit was shaping up.

    [–]altosux29b -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thaaank you darling

    Are those people in middle school?

    [–]TuffLuffJimmy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What does this have to do with circlejerking? This has already been posted to SRS why make this subreddit into SRS-lite?

    [–]JamesCishetfield -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Psst.. Summerbroke is over.

    [–]sweetafton 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The top mod can do what he wants.

    [–]dhamster[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    #modabuse

    [–]usermaim 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you based Mod.

    [–]FrugalNinja -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The Admins are highly highly racist and are "SJWs": their like those people on tumblur who want equality but demand the deaths of certain groups of people.

    They pick and choose what is acceptable and what is not: Its took how long to get rid of some of the more racist websites? They don't prevent the harassment of the anyone at all outside their demographic . jailbait was only removed due to bad press.

    This website is awful, we all know this, we all know its a den of eugenics, hate, and sexism. The admins do nothing because its easier for them them to do nothing than to do something.

    [–]chaanach 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The admins are not racist. They're just hands-off. take that as you will. They're not calling for the death of anyone, and they're banning a user that has broken reddit's rules plenty of times.