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[–]I_never_respond 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 6 時間 前* (31子コメント)
But that's the joke, that Troy doesn't know any better.
EDIT: I don't get the contention here, this isn't exactly a stretch and it's completely in line with, not only Troy's character, but Harmon's sense of humor.
[–]miggitymikeb -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 6 時間 前 (7子コメント)
I don't think it is.
[–]joebleaux 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 6 時間 前 (6子コメント)
It is. Troy, like a lot of people, doesn't know that those are officially sanctioned. He probably doesn't care either, like most people who have those stickers.
[+]miggitymikeb スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 6 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Nah man. Troy and Abed loved them enough to dress up like them. They knew the real Calvin and Hobbes. Whoever wrote that line blew it.
[–]I_never_respond 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 6 時間 前 (0子コメント)
This was a couple seasons before they dressed like them, and that doesn't necessarily mean that they, and especially Troy knew everything about them.
A running joke with Troy is his density, that he doesn't always understand concepts fully, and in this case that he doesn't understand the character or his history well enough to get why the sticker is stupid.
It's not exactly a stretch or a complicated joke...
[–]twonotes 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 5 時間 前 (1子コメント)
That line was from season 1. Troy and Abed dressed up like Calvin and Hobbes in season 4 - the gas leak year. I would trust the lines Troy says through Dan Harmon to be more true to the character than anything anyone said or did in season 4.
[–]originalityescapesme 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Exactly. Is the gas leaking around here again or something?
[–]originalityescapesme 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It doesn't matter how much Troy and Abed love something. Abed is never wrong, but Troy is wrong about various pop culture details in every single season.
[–]Salzberger 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Troy and Abed loved them enough to dress up like them.
Abed loved them enough to dress up like them. Troy loved Abed enough to agree to dress up like them.
[–]darkjohnnyboy -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 6 時間 前 (22子コメント)
No it's not, there's way too much information that the audience would need beforehand to get the joke. The line works because the imagery of someone peeing on their problems can be funny without any context.
[–]I_never_respond 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 6 時間 前 (20子コメント)
Exactly, a lot of the humor in this show is reference humor, and the deal with the sticker isn't exactly obscure. This is perfectly in line with the "idiot Troy" humor of the early season.
Most jokes are funny for more than one reason. It absolutely blows my mind that there's even an argument here.
[–]darkjohnnyboy -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 6 時間 前 (19子コメント)
You're reading way too far into this. The line is idiot Troy humor because he's giving a childlike explanation, not because he's ignorant of copyright infringement.
Jokes can be funny for more than one reason, but in this case yours is projected.
[–]originalityescapesme 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You're the one projecting, so this is even funnier than it needs to be.
[–]I_never_respond 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 6 時間 前 (17子コメント)
The idiot Troy humor is enhanced by the uncharacteristic nature of the sticker. It's idiot Troy humor that he thinks Calvin is like that.
I'm not reading into this at all, it's pretty surface-level.
[+]darkjohnnyboy スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 6 時間 前 (16子コメント)
Reference humor works by the principle that the audience is gonna know what the fuck you're talking about. Most people know about the stickers, the fact that they're not canonically linked to the character is an obscure factoid. Dead opposite of surface level.
[–]originalityescapesme 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前* (0子コメント)
You don't have to know about the stickers controversial nature to get the joke. You just have to know that these stupid stickers exist and are arguably more popular than the far more nuanced comics and books that inspired the stickers. It just happens to be even funnier the more you do know about the controversy and Bill's reaction. That is part of what makes a joke gold - that they have more than one level. The image of Calvin peeing has always been funny - it is why the stickers exist. Even if you aren't smart enough to get the joke or are unfamiliar with the stickers or are unfamiliar with the controversy, the joke is still funny. The writers on Community do make mistakes and are not perfect people, but this joke is an example of when they shine, not when they flopped.
[–]I_never_respond 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 6 時間 前* (14子コメント)
An obscure factoid? It's pretty damn common knowledge, and anyone with a cursory knowledge of the comic strip knows it.
There's a reason the only people with those stickers are idiot rednecks.
EDIT: Also, this is a show filled with obscure references, are you kidding me? Yahoo Serious as a punchline?
[+]darkjohnnyboy スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 6 時間 前 (13子コメント)
No they don't. Ask people outside of the internet about it and you'll prove me right. You drew a connection that's not there and frankly you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
[–]originalityescapesme 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
You're coming off like a real moron here and pretty much every insult you sling makes more sense if you direct it right back at yourself than the people you're commenting to. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Ask people outside the internet? People who are "inside" the internet are their primary audience for their referential jokes. They make a ton of other jokes so its still funny even to people who know nothing at all, but there are tons of jokes that are made especially for the nerdier crowd.
[–]I_never_respond 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 6 時間 前 (11子コメント)
Stop being so damn hostile, Jesus fuck this website.
You missed a joke.
Most jokes, especially on this show are funny for a few reasons.
The first layer of this joke is, oh hey, Calvin peeing on stuff.
The next layer of this joke is Troy not understanding that that isn't really Calvin.
I'm sorry you missed the joke and that everyone else found it funny, but quit acting like it's some obscure fact. It's common knowledge that it's not really Calvin.
And do you want me to actually ask people? I will, of course there's no way to legitimately prove it, but I'd get some joy proving you so easily wrong.
EDIT: I asked the 5 people in the cubicles surrounding me, and they all agree that you're actually an idiot.
[–]darkjohnnyboy -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 5 時間 前 (10子コメント)
I didn't miss the joke, it was never there.
but I'd get some joy proving you so easily wrong.
Smug makes people hostile, you should know by now.
There really isn't. The joke works on more than one level for one, and on another, there have been tons of jokes that are funny to some but much more funny to people who get the reference. It wasn't even close to a risky joke. You are correct about why it works for people who don't get it. You're missing the fact that it is even funnier the more you know about the situation. If you just know the stickers are not canon and he's confusing the two it is hilarious. If you know how pissed Waterson would be about this it is just even more funny. I think the last part of that could be a happy coincidence - Bill's reaction, I mean. The part about simply confusing the stickers and the strips is funny enough to stand on its own. The stickers are quick and stupid and the strips are often much deeper and nuanced. Troy, a much more simple man than Abed, is just doing his "slightly misinformed" thing that he always does here.
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