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Cat Call (My Wife Made This) (imgur.com)

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[–]JesusDeSaad -30 ポイント-29 ポイント  (31子コメント)

I'm the last guy, only I never call women bitches. I might say "what an asshole" though, I mean it's not my fault other people were assholes to her.

"Oh you don't know what it's like to be-"

"What? To be what? To be categorized like an object by an outward appearance? Yeah I do, I was bullied most of my life because of my weight. But I don't go around telling people to fuck off when they try to get my attention by calling me Big Guy when they don't know my name, just because some other people were assholes to me."

Seriously, it's this double standard, that it's okay for women to react like assholes because they've been objectified by assholes in the past.

[–]Sunjammer0037 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (16子コメント)

The comic never implied it was ok for the woman to flick the guy off like that. It just showed that some women are harassed so often they tend to develop over-reactive defense system, and this is bad for both them and the others.

[–]Vanilla16 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I feel the difference lies in how those interactions start. Take it this way - on a girl's long walk home, she may get 5 catcalls, and hey, maybe one of them had been "Hey lady, why don't you come over here?" in that creepy way some guys do it - then some actually normal person just trying to get her attention calls out "Hey lady", not knowing her recent experience with that same phrase. I don't know about you but I would have definitely lost my patience at that point.

It's less a situation of "I'm reacting to things hat happened in the past," and more "I'm reacting to stuff that just happened literally five minutes ago that I'm still not quite over."

Another view that no one likes to think about is, what if one of the guys catcalling WOULD actually do something to her if they thought she would come easily? I can only imagine that fear would constantly lurk in the backs of women's minds after a certain number of catcalls, and so they would want to put up an image of being able to handle oneself.

Look, I know this is reddit and one post won't change someone's entire opinion of a situation. I mean what the hell do I know, I'm a chick that's only a catcalled maybe twice in my life - I don't know what it would feel like. I just feel a little empathy goes a long way. I'm sorry you've been bullied though. That's definitely not ok.

[–]RobbieGee -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

In my mind, the continuance of the "Hey lady" was "Do you know the time?" or something similar. I've attempted to ask for directions or the time before and been told off similarly to the comic.

(On the other hand, just to balance things out, I've met and talked to WAY more nice girls randomly on the street. The rude ones are fortunately way outweighed by the polite and nice ones.)

[–]Vanilla16 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ok then it's entirely likely those women were just jerks. They do exist, haha. Sure they may have had some crap going on in their life, but as I saw someone else comment, this comic isn't to say that it's ok for women to develop reactions like that - it's only saying that, there is a reason, and it becomes a vicious cycle.

I don't know, man, this is a hard place to discuss. All I can say is, there will almost always be a reason for someone's actions. It may not be a good reason, but it's there.

I'm glad you have had more good experiences than bad though. I have a tendency to be a huge cynic, so that makes me feel a little happier.

[–]RobbieGee 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh yeah, I see the point of the comic - I was just mentioning what I personally was anticipating his intentions were right at the moment I read it. I figured maybe it was about to twist around for a happy ending.

[–]Vanilla16 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I kind of wish it would have, but then I feel the message would not have been as powerful as it is.

I don't get why your first comment is receiving downvotes, though, it's a completely valid point you're making.

[–]RobbieGee 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think my expectation was what the author went for. The message is depending on a disconnect between the innocent comment and the reaction.

People think I have misunderstood the comic, that's probably the reason of any downvotes (but it's at 1 right now).

[–]butyourenice 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You really can't see how, from the several panels of context, in this woman's mind, the "hey lady" wasn't likely to be followed by something so innocuous? I mean that's literally the point of the comic: not that her reaction was justified but that it was founded in previous experience. That is literally the point of the comic.

[–]RobbieGee 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course I see that she thinks that.

[–]MessedupMakeup 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imagine when you're out on the street someone comes up and tries to sell you something touristy. Maybe the first time, or the first few times, you entertain them, maybe buy something. But people keep coming up to you and they always try to push you to buy something you don't want. Every time someone comes up to you they want something out of you, and they all feel entitled to your attention when you just want to get to work on time. They don't care about whether they make you uncomfortable, just what you can give them. And when 99% of people who approach you want something out of you, you start to not trust the ones who claim they don't. Worse still, if you don't engage them they insult you and call you a bitch. Replace selling something with wanting your body. Can't you see why that would get frustrating?

[–]JesusDeSaad 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worse still, if you tell them "fuck off" they feel insulted and call you a bitch.

FTFY