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[–]pjz4302 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The perpetrators are Muslim? There's a surprise!

I was expecting it to be Catholic Priests to be honest.

[–]slothrrYorkshire 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (11子コメント)

They likely are Muslim. But as you say, they could have been Catholics, they could have been politicians, or BBC TV and radio personalities from the 1970s and 1980s.

[–]CapsuletsUnited Kingdom 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If it was a priest or a politician it would have probably been in the 70s and 80s as well, those groups are not as much of a problem today, at least in this country.

There does seem to be a disproportionate number of sex abuse cases which involve an adult Muslim these days.

[–]OptioMkIX 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The majority of abusers are still white men.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmhaff/68/6806.htm

4 The issue of race

  1. The vast majority of convicted child-sex offenders in the UK are single White men. However, with this specific model of offending, there is a widespread perception that the majority of perpetrators are of Asian, British Asian or Muslim origin. This would certainly seem to be the case from the major grooming prosecutions which have gone to court so far, but in fact both CEOP and the Office of the Children's Commissioner have found serious inconsistencies with recording of ethnicities and gender of both victims and perpetrators across UK forces.[238] Given the number of child sexual exploitation cases which have so far failed to make it to court, for the reasons discussed, this highly unsatisfactory situation means that it is extremely difficult to form an evidence based opinion on the true nature of what is still a largely hidden crime. Nevertheless, the perception, that grooming perpetrators are largely of Asian, British Asian or Muslim origin colours the attitudes of those working in the field, as well as the media and the wider public.

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  1. A factor that may reinforce the perception of localised grooming being carried out by Asian men against White girls could be the under-reporting of offences against children from ethnic minorities. Witnesses told us that there were cases of groups of Asian men grooming Asian girls[260] but these do not come to light because victims are often alienated and ostracised by their own families and by the whole community if they go public with allegations of abuse.[261] The inquiry by the Office of the Children's Commissioner also found that there was an under-reporting of ethnic minority victims of child sexual exploitation. The interim report noted that children from a minority background were unlikely to be identified as victims by police or social services. Instead victims tended to be identified by "BME, faith and statutory and voluntary sector youth justice agencies," if at all. [262]

  2. Given the high level of debate around the issue and the fact that many of those involved in investigating the issue of localised grooming have warned against citing race as a key factor in these cases,[263] it is not difficult to see why the British Pakistani community might feel that the suggestion that this is an "Asian problem" is inaccurate and unfair.[264] There is certainly evidence of localised grooming being carried out by offenders from other ethnic groups. Tim Loughton cited cases involving offenders from central Africa.[265] The CEOP 2011 report cited a study from 2004 of a case in Lewisham involving Eastern European offenders, which followed much of the recognised pattern of localised grooming, including girls being passed to much older men by a younger 'boyfriend'.[266] The Deputy Children's Commissioner cited "White, Pakistani, Afghan, Traveller, Gypsy and Romany travellers" communities where children were seen as an opportunity for sexual exploitation.[267] She considered that the race factor in the cases in northern towns was an artefact of local demographics, not culture.[268] This point was also made by Emma Jackson who told us that, whilst all of her abusers in Rotherham had been Asian and the victims White, in subsequent work that she had done in other areas, the ethnicity of the perpetrators would reflect the local demographics.[269]

[–]CapsuletsUnited Kingdom 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Of course the majority of abusers are white, Asians only make up about 5% of the population. If they were the majority abusers it would be a epidemic. The question is whether or not Asians commit a disproportionate number of sex abuse crimes, which your source fails to provide any evidence against.

By the way, your own source suggests that there may be even more sex crimes committed against children by Asian men, but the children are even more scared of coming forward becauseof their families reaction:

Witnesses told us that there were cases of groups of Asian men grooming Asian girls[260] but these do not come to light because victims are often alienated and ostracised by their own families and by the whole community if they go public with allegations of abuse.

[–]OptioMkIX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is why I provided the link. There is plenty of material in there to keep everyone annoyed for quite some time.

I have been trying to find those appropriate stats but I havent yet been able to.

EDIT: I now have found some. Check:http://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/2emih6/1400_children_abused_in_rotherham/ck0yh29

[–]Major_Reacher 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

You are right. To demonise an entire group because of the actions of a few is stupid. However:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

[–]slothrrYorkshire 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

We could exchange instances of child sexual abuse tit-for-tat all day long. Given that it would get us nowhere, I'm choosing not to.

[–]Major_Reacher 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You are right, it would not be helpful and I would just come across as an anti muslim prick. Which I am not (I may be a prick but that's different).

It was not my intention to suggest child abuse is all at the hand of one ethnic/social/political group.

[–]slothrrYorkshire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What was your intention?

[–]Major_Reacher 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

To try to help people understand.

[–]slothrrYorkshire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Understand what? All I got from it was that you did think that

child abuse is all at the hand of one ethnic/social/political group.

[–]Major_Reacher 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But child abuse isn't all at the hand of one group. Clearly. You'd have to be a bell end to think that. Esp with all the finding of operation yew tree lately. I was just giving some context on the group of people who have allegedly committed this latest act. If that sound like I'm saying "all muslims are kiddy fiddlers" then sorry. That's not what I am trying to say. I was just giving it some historical context with the link to the Guardian editorial.