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The Head of The Missouri GOP Thinks Voter Registration Drives in Ferguson Are "Disgusting": "I'd rather they vote than riot," counters another Republican. (motherjones.com)

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[–]fantasyfest [非表示スコア]  (28子コメント)

They already don't vote. That is why white people are in all the political positions. that is the black people's fault though. They have accepted a white police force and a white political structure when they are 2/3rds of the population.

However voting and rioting are not connected.

[–]pyrespirit [非表示スコア]  (25子コメント)

Yes, it's the black peoples' fault that gerrymandering has diluted their vote, and that the republicans have done their level best to disenfranchise them over the years.

Also;

when they are 2/3rds of the population.

Yet again showing that 2/3rds of statistics are made up on the spot to suit the biases of whomever is posting them.

[–]gth829c [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

The racial makeup of the city was 29.3% White, 67.4% African American, 0.4% Native American, 0.5% Asian, 0.4% from other races, and 2.0% from two or more races.

In context, its entirely accurate. 57/60 cops are white, 5/6 city council members. These statistics arent made up, they are being widely reported.

[–]agoodfriendofyours [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Damn, that is some strong gentrification.

[–]maleman [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

It's the other way around. Fergeson was a majority white city that experienced white flight in the last 20 years.

[–]fantasyfest [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Black voters could take over the city government by showing up at the polls. This thread has been about Ferguson. Cities are not gerrymandered, States are.

[–]JackiePollockBrown [非表示スコア]  (16子コメント)

MO isn't heavily gerrymandered, If only 12% can show up to vote, then that is primarily their own fault.

[–]pyrespirit [非表示スコア]  (15子コメント)

MO is only around 13% black, which is around the national average.

[–]WhiteyDude [非表示スコア]  (11子コメント)

Not at all relevant, but true. What's the point of mentioning this?

[–]Zifnab25 [非表示スコア]  (10子コメント)

If 100% of the residents vote (on a Tuesday, during work hours) and they all vote identically the same then you still only need 1/7th of the remaining white population to vote against them and cancel their efforts out.

[–]WhiteyDude [非表示スコア]  (9子コメント)

What? No, in Ferguson, the actual town in MO we're talking about is roughly 67% black. It's apparent that the black majority in the town is under represented in the local government bodies. /u/JackiePollockBrown is pointing out that it's because of their low voter turn out, not some gerrymander redistricting thing. This discussion isn't about MO, it's about Ferguson, MO.

If 100% of the residents of Ferguson vote, the town council, Board of education, etc will probably be very different.

[–]dont_knockit [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

Psst. You don't know what you're talking about.

[–]WhiteyDude [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

I'm sorry, what did I say that you think is inaccurate and is disproved by this map?

As I mentioned to /u/Zifnab25, the discussion is of local politics in Ferguson, not the entire state of Missouri.

[–]Zifnab25 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Local politicians have voting districts, too.

[–]Zifnab25 [非表示スコア]  (4子コメント)

No, in Ferguson, the actual town in MO we're talking about is roughly 67% black.

Ferguson is a suburb of St. Louis. The areas share many of the same municipal services and their representatives - particularly in higher offices - overlap considerably.

If 100% of the residents of Ferguson vote, the town council, Board of education, etc will probably be very different.

If they all vote for the same people and don't split their votes, sure. And if they can all take off on a Tuesday afternoon in November without losing their jobs.

[–]WhiteyDude [非表示スコア]  (3子コメント)

Ferguson is a suburb of St. Louis.

Again with irrelevant facts.

The areas share many of the same municipal services and their representatives - particularly in higher offices - overlap considerably.

And that means what to you?

If they all vote for the same people and don't split their votes, sure.

Not necessary. 67% of the population essentially re-engaging into the political arena all at once would have a huge impact. They wouldn't necessarily have to have consensus.

And if they can all take off on a Tuesday afternoon in November without losing their jobs.

Legally, employers have to allow you to vote. But realistically, people who want to vote, do. Polls are open from 7am to 8pm where I live, and the polling place is less than 2 miles from home. It's close to home and doesn't take that long.

[–]Zifnab25 [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

Again with irrelevant facts.

TIL facts are no longer relevant.

67% of the population essentially re-engaging into the political arena

Do you understand what voting precincts and districts are? Overlay the voting district map onto the city of Ferguson and you'll discover that it's not a neat fit.

Legally, employers have to allow you to vote.

And if they don't, you should totally call the cops (I hear they're super helpful down in Ferguson). Or perhaps you could invest a few hundred grand in lawyers. Solutions abound!

[–]JackiePollockBrown [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

And?

[–]pyrespirit [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

13% isn't enough to, as the person I was initially responding to, push back against "white people [being] in all the political positions" simply by voting, hyperbole aside.

[–]JackiePollockBrown [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

We aren't talking about the state, we are talking about the make up of the police dept and city council, which is all white, in a community of which 60% is black but only 12% bothered to vote.

[–]BlackSpidy [非表示スコア]  (2子コメント)

I hear 90% of percentage statistics are bullshit.

[–]mogendavid613 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

"Take with 15-20% salt."

[–]BlackSpidy [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

... now I'm hungry [Insert obligatory "thanks Obama"]

[–]Zifnab25 [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Yet again showing that 2/3rds of statistics are made up on the spot to suit the biases of whomever is posting them.

They are 2/3rds of the population of 1/3 of the district. That makes them the majority, stupid!

[–]ballistic90 [非表示スコア]  (1子コメント)

Check the national average. Most Americans, regardless of race, don't generally vote for local elections. It's hard to find any actual information on your candidates that they themselves didn't make available (after editing the information heavily).

[–]fantasyfest [非表示スコア]  (0子コメント)

Well aware of that, but a 2/3rd portion of the population gives them the power if they will just vote. What it also shows is the white population is voting.