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"Her webcam content is extremely obscene, indecent, lewd and suggestive." [+302] (reddit.com)

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[–]ccmulligan 34 ポイント35 ポイント

"Uhm, excuse me, but I am just trying to watch other people play video games I enjoy here, and this feeeemale starts assaulting me with her raw sexuality. Thank you, internet feeeeemale whose body I enjoy ogling, for reminding me that my shitty attitude makes me repulsive to others and I will never enjoy romantic success because of evil feeeeemales like you who assault me with their being in control of their own sexuality. Furthermore, therefore, I would appreciate it if Twitch did something to censor these evil feeeeemales from reminding me that they exist, because it is an uncomfortable reminder of my own shortcomings and failings, and that simply will not stand."

Meanwhile, on reddit, the admins of a gaming sub say, "Hey, everyone, maybe let's stop calling each other [slurs] on here?"

"Oh my Sagan! That's censorship! How dare you tell me I cannot do anything I want online? My friends in Anonymous* shall hear of this!"

  • User has no friends in Anonymous.

[–]igetbooored 0 ポイント1 ポイント

tl;dr mainstream twitch crowd on them internets get shy or angry when real boobs are almost on display.

[–]pezz29mildly misandric mallard 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Oh God she takes confusing and angering the peens of dudebros to an artform.

Seriously. She's pretty bad at the game (or at least knows how to play bad on purpose), wears low cut shirts all the time, tells you that 'she'll show you what the pros can't' and uses the fucking Brazzers typeface on her stream.

Not getting the joke she's making is equivalent to having someone say 'knock knock' to you, so you go home and check for someone at your front door. But dudebros get so fucking mad at her, I love it.

[–]missandric 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Nah I don't think she's bad at all, whenever she's giving "tips" she says the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do. It's quite beautiful, it's not just wrong, it's the exact opposite :D

[–]pezz29mildly misandric mallard 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Even more beautiful than I thought.

[–]Blank_username 59 ポイント60 ポイント

I watch her stream from time to time. If you actually watched it then you would see she is just parodying the "girl gamer" stereotype. Her "lewd clothing" is just a tank top and that is it. Her chat is filled with people insulting her and people who realize she is joking. She gets rude messages telling her to kill herself and calling her fat, but she just makes a joke about it. It is not surprising that reddit hates her because the audacity of a FEMALE to enter their beloved gaming community and make light of the serious professional gameplay is horrifying.

[–]lavender-fieldsPenis, from the Latin penis, meaning penis. 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I tried to read the comments to figure out who this girl is and what she does, but I'm still a bit mystified by the whole thing. What is she streaming herself doing, what's her persona, and why is it making this person so angry?

[–]FreddyKugeltear it all down and build it up again; another Fempire 1 ポイント2 ポイント

She streams a lot of League of Legends and plays up the 'gamer girl' stereotype quite a bit. The only reason I dislike her is that she ruins the game for other people on her team because she feeds, trolls, afks' etc during matches. Her biggest crime by far is a being a feeemale on the interwebs who plays games.

[–]lavender-fieldsPenis, from the Latin penis, meaning penis. 4 ポイント5 ポイント

she feeds, trolls, afks' etc during matches.

What does this mean? I don't really know anything about gamer culture, much less the streaming world.

[–]panopticonstructor 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Feeding - In LoL and other MOBAs, players gain a significant amount of money for every kill. Feeding is intentionally dying to give the other team an advantage, but is frequently extended to any bad play that results in your death.

Trolling - Doing stupid shit that hinders your teammates, usually to get a rise out of them.

AFK - Stands for "away from keyboard". Especially annoying in MOBAs because matches are often won or lost fairly early, so a missing player can consign their teammates to a drawn out, inevitable loss.

[–]Rehkit 2 ポイント3 ポイント

League of Legends (LoL) is a 5vs5 game. So when she loses (on purpose or not) 4 people lose also which is not cool if she's doing it on purpose.

Feeding means dying to the enemy feeding them money which they use to buy strong items and kill you again and ultimately win the game.

Afking means stop playing for a while. (afk= away from keyboard)

[–]Blank_username 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I don't think she ruins people games because she either plays with viewers or in bronze 5 where everyone is at her skill level anyway.

[–]so_srs 1 ポイント2 ポイント

People in bronze 5 are people too :)

She definitely does throw games for her own amusement, which is not so great for the other four people that happened to get thrown in with her.

[–]SYEPCY 0 ポイント1 ポイント

the people on her team are her friends and viewers, she doesn't ruin the game for anyone

[–]Rehkit 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Not in ranked games. But they are thousand of people who are as bad as her and no one is being so hated.

[–]SYEPCY 6 ポイント7 ポイント

generally people at her skill level either don't stream or don't get the number of viewers that she does, hence all the accusations of "omg a baddie gurl gamur is stealing viewers bcus boobs!!!1"

[–]Rehkit 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Yeah I understand.

It's totally undeserved. But if she's feeding on purpose because it's part of her play, it's still not cool.

[–]Kennen_Rudd 7 ポイント8 ポイント

It is not surprising that reddit hates her because the audacity of a FEMALE to enter their beloved gaming community and make light of the serious professional gameplay is horrifying.

This is it in a nutshell. A lot of people cannot stand that she basically parodies the entire idea of video game streaming.

[–]EaveaFempire Foot Soldier 25 ポイント26 ポイント

Oh god. I was wearing a sports bra at yoga and I think that means I'm going to jail for indecent exposure and flashing D:

I had no idea that clothes were identical to nudity!

But in seriousness. They have to have some serious issues with other people's bodies if normal, everyday clothing is lewd.

[–]ClashOfFeminizationsGrab your dildz and double click for SCORN SCORN SCORN! 8 ポイント9 ポイント

It's not the sports bra... it's you. Women even appearing in public in any capacity is indecent exposure for these fucks. It doesn't matter what you wear.

[–]GearyDigit 4 ポイント5 ポイント

If they grew up in Pakistan they'd probably consider burqas without eye covers to be 'suggestive'.

[–]foxh8er 11 ポイント12 ポイント

Hate to nitpick, but burqas without eye slots actually are burqas. The ones with slots are niqabs. Image.

The more you know

[–]GearyDigit 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Then Wikipedia lied to me D:

[–]Seven-Force 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Who would've thought people on the internet would be ignorant about other peoples' cultures

[–]bear__tiger 13 ポイント14 ポイント

Her stream is amazing. She's got Kaceytron stylized like the Brazzers logo on her stream. When she receives donations/subs, the myfreecams donation sound plays (she also calls donations "tokens.") It's so blatant she's having a laugh at all the mad dudes in her chat that it's astonishing there are people who don't get it.

I play Dota 2 and think LoL ain't so hot, but I watch her stream sometimes just because it's so funny.

[–]Blank_username 9 ポイント10 ポイント

I love how people see the Brazzers logo and instead of getting that it is satire they assume she is actually a pornstar.

[–]Wafflebrigand 0 ポイント1 ポイント

-it's astonishing that there are people who don't get it.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Being a woman in general on twitch is going to garner unwarranted hate, and the people who innately feel this way will literally jump on ANYTHING to justify it.

[–]Nethryn 25 ポイント26 ポイント

"THIS WOMAN'S CONDUCT AND CONTENT IS OBSCENE AND INDECENT. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."

Meanwhile, In The Hypocrisy Cave, One Subreddit Over

"Hey a feeeeeeeeeeemale poster. Lets dox her posts for nudies."

"How dare reddit take away Jailbait? This is the worst kind of free speech violation."

And r/CandidFashionPolice is completely fine.

Fuck this site. Seriously, fuck this site.

[–]RiskyChris(✿◕‿◕✿) 8 ポイント9 ポイント

And /r/CandidFashionPolice is completely fine.

This is the creepiest shit I've seen on the internet in a long time.

[–]courtFTW 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Do you even default?

[–]NoxiousDogCloudi named my crowbar misandry 17 ポイント18 ポイント

Hey its a time traveler from Victorian England here to tell us how a woman showing skin is totally wrong and we should be ashamed.

[–]fdc_willardI can make a delicious Manhattan with all these bitters. 20 ポイント21 ポイント

Oh no. Tops of boobs. Basically porn. Something something.

Ugh...

[–]UnevenElefant5Boo! I am a scary queer! 7 ポイント8 ポイント

"I literally cannot stop myself from objectifying a woman for any period of time so any time I interact with one, it must be sexualized somehow."

[–]hashtagreckt 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Okay, it's perfectly understandable if something is sincerely making you uncomfortable. Stop watching, then, and if you think it was really that obscene, than just send a report to twitch, and leave it for them to decide. This is what a reasonable person would do.

But this is not the case here, is it, redditurds? Kaceytron is really none of these things, she's an okay streamer, and her parodying of the gamer girl stereotype is really funny. You bruhs just hate her because she's a feeeeeeemale, and now you're suddenly concerned with "decency" ("SHOW ME BOOBS LOL NEWS FROM MY PEEN AT 11"), trying to find things just to justify your own hatred.

[–]canofdirt 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Is Rick Santorum a gamer now?

[–]Fendahleen 6 ポイント7 ポイント

The writer of the post claims to be a "Miss" http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2cwfu2/i_am_twitch_ceo_emmett_shear_ask_me_almost/cjjp7ug

[–]Alien_Reagan 1 ポイント2 ポイント

So?

[–]Fendahleen 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I don't know is she just mirroring the bro-centric game culture and has internalized da patriarchy or is her complaint something else?

[–]reconrose 12 ポイント13 ポイント

Internalized misogynist shitpost is still a shitpost.

[–]Fendahleen 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Your logic compels me. Shit is shit and the gender of the anus does not change its smell.

[–]Alien_Reagan 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Good question, since I don't know who the quote is referring to I can't even judge whether or not it's accurate. I only asked about your comment because I was unsure if you were raising an actual point or trying to insult the poster by questioning their gender. Obviously my concerns were unfounded :)

[–]Fendahleen 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I creepy stallkered her posts. Well one click she posts to girlgamers about purses could be deep cover.

I dont think the gender of a misogynist matters unless I am truthfull in which cases I think it worse when women do it.

[–]TWABTSthe humiliation of making me tacos 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Woman doing thing in public domain, Reddit predictably outraged.

More at 11.

[–]bangwhimper 5 ポイント6 ポイント

I legitimately cannot understand the argument here. How is cleavage "obscene, indecent, lewd, and suggestive"? People walk around in public dressed the same way that Kaceytron dresses. If it's not "obscene, indecent, lewd, and suggestive" in the real world, how does it automatically become so on the Internet -- where, if we're being honest, the bar for obscenity is much, much higher?

[–]GearyDigit 7 ポイント8 ポイント

I wonder if redditors would argue that most comics featuring female heroes would classify as 'obscene, indecent, lewd, and suggestive' in the same vein.

[–]bangwhimper 3 ポイント4 ポイント

No, that's just the artist's style!

[–]MisanderKirbyPoyu! Poyo poyo poyuuu! [Hey! I think you're swell!] 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Because dudebros hate when women play games, and they'll grasp at anything to express their displeasure.

[–]mrdullfun police 3 ポイント4 ポイント

literally this. I imagine they feel she has an unfair advantage compared to other streamers and are grasping at anything that might somehow be considered a legitimate criticism.

[–]bangwhimper 0 ポイント1 ポイント

This is the only way I can think to explain this post.

[–]PersephonesEcho -1 ポイント0 ポイント

And yet "DAE, so hard to find a girlfriend who is a gamer."

[–]ClashOfFeminizationsGrab your dildz and double click for SCORN SCORN SCORN! 1 ポイント2 ポイント

SERIOUSLY!?

Why the hell do they care so much anyways?

[–]unpetitchoufleur 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Because we can't have women being successful. Then they might think they're actually people!

[–]ClashOfFeminizationsGrab your dildz and double click for SCORN SCORN SCORN! 5 ポイント6 ポイント

She's wearing normal clothes that normal people wear... they do realize that there are like a billion hours of pornography online where there are women that don't wear anything at all, right? It's like... what the hell is with this obsession? Why are they so obsessed with her clothes?

I mean hell, she's streaming from her own home, it's summer, is she supposed to wear a parka or something?

It's just another example of people who are so fucking privileged that this is what they complain about, because they have no serious issues to divert their attention to instead.

[–]iniccuZnot to sound racist, but... 6 ポイント7 ポイント

What's especially astounding is how women are constantly harassed with "TITS OR GTFO," and when one finally caves and shows some cleavage she's a whore, fuck her, I hate her, she needs to be banned.

[–]zklwRavished By The Sheer Implausibility Of That Last Shitpost 0 ポイント1 ポイント

It's at that point you realise they just straight up fucking hate women for existing in the first place, and will cling to any bullshit they can in an attempt to rationalise it, consistency be damned

[–]unpetitchoufleur 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Women? Being successful?? Not on my watch!

[–]khantronSakaki is so cool 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I wonder what they think of dragon's crown? Is cleavage only unacceptable when it profits the woman who had it?

[–]SomeDrunkCommie 0 ポイント1 ポイント

But don't worry, women aren't ostracized in gaming culture at all. Nope.

[–]SRScreenshotwow -1 ポイント0 ポイント

"Her webcam content is extremely obscene, indecent, lewd and suggestive." [+302]

At 2014-08-07 17:33:41 UTC, /u/gameof_bones replied to "I am Twitch CEO Emmett Shear. Ask Me (almost) Anything." [+316 points: +316, -0]:

How are streamers such as "kaceytron" allowed to stream on Twitch when they are breaking your own T&C's and are profiting from it. For example, when watching a stream by herself last night entitled "Tired of people saying that I show cleavage whenever I don't" this is the what was being broadcast source http://i.imgur.com/P21KHxw.png past broadcast http://www.twitch.tv/kaceytron/b/555307469

In your own legal T&C's it is written (2nd c, down) source http://www.twitch.tv/user/legal

  1. c, Content that is unlawful, libellous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, suggestive, harassing, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, inflammatory, fraudulent or otherwise objectionable;

It is quite apparent she shows no regard for this statement in her title and is playing oblivious for the views, donations and subscriptions. This in turn draws in extra viewers who are only there to inflame on her chat to try and evoke a reaction from her, resulting in more advertisement revenue.

She is also quoted in her previous broadcast as saying she abides to all Twitch T&C's time: 2:43:31

While she may be hosting gaming related content, her webcam content is extremely obscene, indecent, lewd and suggestive. The way she also speaks to her viewers in chat is inflammatory and a lot of times she is abusive to any criticism she is giving, this can be said about the people in her chat too.

During this stream, it was also noted that a member of Twitch staff and a Twitch admin were viewing the stream for around 30 minutes and no action was taken of any kind. (sorry no screen shot)

How can this be justified when someone is showing complete disregard to your T&C's and is profiting from it without consequences?

p.s Thanks for doing this AMA, it's given us all a chance to ask what we want to :)

Edit: Just to be clear , this is about someone who is breaking a websites T&C's in more than one place and getting away with it whereas other user will have the ban hammer slapped down on them for much more minor things. Not that she has boobs.

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