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[–]mudbutt20 -11 ポイント-10 ポイント

Edit: I'm not saying I don't like Gavin. He's the reason I started liking achievement hunter so much. And I do agree that über facts is in the wrong, pewdiepie isn't as good as Gavin, and RWJ is a known asshole. I'm just pointing out that Gavin seems to say things about a lot of people in a very public forum.

prepares anus

Is it me or is gavin a bit bitchy when it comes to other entertainers/celebs/twitter users/youtube users?

His beef with ray william johsnon, pewdiepie, uberfacts apparently... seems like he bags on a lot of people.

[–]thisisanadventure 204 ポイント205 ポイント

I thought they were using his content

[–]Iknowwhereyoualllive 106 ポイント107 ポイント

They were, if you look up in the thread you can see the vine on uberfacts' vine account and it's from the SMG video.

[–]Wookiee72 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Cursed freebooters.

[–]ChrisVolkoff 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Brady?

[–]thewildshrimp -1 ポイント0 ポイント

came here just to see this word used.

[–]mudbutt20 7 ポイント8 ポイント

True but in the actual vine they do give credit to who actually made it. Gavin might have a right to be angry there... but it seems he bags on a lot of people.

[–]JHawkInc 99 ポイント100 ポイント

I don't know the details or any interaction between SMG and UF, but to me, personally, it seems kinda shitty that they linked to a Vine on the UF account instead of linking to the actual Youtube video.

[–]Rankerqt 51 ポイント52 ポイント

So Gavin takes the time and effort to make the slow MO video and this is his job btw, and this random vine channel presses and holds a record button for 5 Seconds and then uploads it to his vine.

Even if the vine channel makes no money off of it and even if they give credit, I would still be pissed about it. They are getting publicity and views from someone else's work and effort and who knows maybe Gavin never consented to this in the first place.

[–]Tjx1358 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Saying hey this person made this but not properly linking is not okay its stealing (ad revenue) from people who actually make content.

[–]mudbutt20 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

That's why I can understand where his "anger" is coming form this time, but a lot of times previously he seems to bag on people for no real reason.

[–]_NotAPlatypus_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Like...?

[–]mudbutt20 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Pewdiepie for being a different brand of humor than him. As far as I know he hasn't said anything bad about rooster teeth/achievement hunter. He just does his own thing and that pisses people off.

[–]_NotAPlatypus_ 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Well, PewDiePie has been known to be extremely annoying with his fake reactions, loud screaming, overreactions to minor scares, and just generally putting out bad content. This is a commonly held view for a lot of people. Pewdie's humour is hit or miss, and for Gavin, it's a huuuuuge miss, and he is allowed to say that he thinks it sucks.

[–]mudbutt20 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

He's allowed to think pewdiepie sucks. I think pewdiepie sucks too. It's just gavin says a lot of things about a lot of people. It gives off a bad vibe to me personally.

[–]AKindChap -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Different brand of humour/having no humour at all other than shouting loudly about rape (even though the channel seems to be directed towards 13 year old girls).

[–]mudbutt20 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

That's your opinion though. Some people might find one funny and the other not so funny.

[–]AKindChap 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Hey, if people think talking loudly and joking about rape is quality entertainment, more power to 'em!

[–]FuzzyMcBitty 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Yes, but his income comes from the YouTube channel.

[–]DaLateDentArthurDent 4 ポイント5 ポイント

They were. They credited SMG in the post but I don't think they asked permissions

[–]DonkeyWheel19 22 ポイント23 ポイント

I think he mostly gets annoyed when people effortlessly profit of someone else's work. It's fucking absurd that RWJ gets as many views as he does by simply showing other people's videos and making pathetically lazy and half-assed jokes every now and then. And in the case of Uberfacts, they're actually benefitting off of Gavin's work, (I would assume) without his permission. So yeah...I think he has every right to be pissed, considering that he puts actual effort into making original content. I'd be pissed, too.

[–]KnightsOfArgonia 2 ポイント3 ポイント

What's happening guys-

-transition-

My mind was blown after seeing this-

-paint bounces off speaker in slow motion-

If seeing that paint bounce in slowmo interested you, you'll love seeing it dry in slow motion!

-transition-


After reading your comment, I just felt the need to write what I think rwj would have done if he commentated a slow mo guys vid :P

[–]enceladus7 77 ポイント78 ポイント

Nah, it's great. People are too scared to call others out.

General consensus among most adults is RWJ, Pewdiepie and all these other things suck. Why can't Gavin say it?

[–]deliciousdave33 33 ポイント34 ポイント

I agree. People have this mindset nowadays where you're a meanie if you call someone out. Some people deserve it

[–]enceladus7 6 ポイント7 ポイント

People like to play the victim.

If you're being called out you're obviously the victim and being attacked, facts don't real /s

[–]mudbutt20 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Pewdiepie, while not a lot of peoples humor, does a lot of good with his work, by donating his earnings and entertaining people. Ray William Johnson entertains a lot of people with his work as well and has used his fame to kickstart his career as a writer/actor/director. I don't care if people don't like what that person does, but consistently bagging on a lot of people because they don't entertain you is a little childish.

[–]sunnyku 6 ポイント7 ポイント

With RWJ it's because he used to just make money off of other people's content essentially, which is why I don't like him as well.

[–]ItsDaves 21 ポイント22 ポイント

"Hey guys this dude stole a bunch of stuff and then made enough money to go legit so it's totally fine that he stole a bunch of stuff previously because he's totally changed guys!" RWJ is a piece of shit. PDP is annoying as hell but at least he isn't RWJ.

[–]mudbutt20 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

RWJ stole it as much as telling your friend about gangnam style is stealing. He always linked the videos in question and actively told his subscribers to check out the videos.

[–]ItsDaves 19 ポイント20 ポイント

Except I'm not profiting off of telling my friend about Gangnam Style.

[–]Across52317 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

People watched it because of RWJ, not the videos. Have you seen the new guy doing =3? He really sucks

[–]JamesLazer 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I disagree with the latter statement. He's not ray but he's not bad. He's his own style. You wouldn't want a ray wannabe hosting ≠4

[–]Across52317 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I agree to some extent. He just feels really awkward at the moment, he probably just needs some time to settle in

[–]JamesLazer -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Absolutely. Not perfect but has potential

[–]Lord_of_the_Chickens 2 ポイント3 ポイント

entertaining people with rape jokes/etc. yes, pewdiepie is a goddamn SAVIOUR of entertainment. he also comes from a rich as hell family so why not donate his youtube earnings, it's not like he's going to starve without it.

he's festered this vile community of pewdiepie fans that are just abhorrent, and make even the whiniest/most awful rooster teeth fans look sane/good/whatever. even other youtubers under polaris with him do not exactly like him, with some even like, verbalising their distaste for him. i think he's yet to take part in a polaris tournament? even yogscast with their entire yogsfamily to take care of, some yogsmembers take part, be it ~everyone's favourites simon/lewis or someone else from their company.

if you like your humour incredibly dumb and rapey, by all means, go watch the ever living fuck out of pewdiepie's shit.

[–]jaketwo91 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Pewdiepie was in the Smite Polaris tournament, but it was a bit awkward. His teammates seemed unhappy with his lack of skill and understanding of the game.

[–]Lord_of_the_Chickens 2 ポイント3 ポイント

didn't know that because I don't really have an interest in Smite-- thanks for the info on that

[–]DieDungeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

A bunch of people at Polaris hate his content.

[–]DieDungeon 0 ポイント1 ポイント

A bunch of people at Polaris hate his content.

[–]deliciousdave33 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm not calling any specific entertainer out. I'm just saying that some people deserve a slap in the face

[–]PanicOnTheStreetsOf 5 ポイント6 ポイント

Why does Pewdiepie deserve it? His content isnt for everyone but why does that mean he deserves the stick?

[–]_NotAPlatypus_ 17 ポイント18 ポイント

I hate PewDiePie, and I can say it. Why can't Gavin say he doesn't like PewDiePie?

[–]ChaoticMidget 8 ポイント9 ポイント

His fanbase is apparently really annoying (not necessarily his own fault although I don't think he discourages it either) and his content is driven solely by the fact that people like to watch how he overreacts to everything. As far as I can tell, he has never actually "created" anything so in a sense, he has no skill that separates him from any other person filming a Let's Play. He pretty much won the lottery in that respect.

[–]AKindChap 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I didn't know at first if this was talking about PewDiePie or Gavin. That makes me sad.

(Wasn't saying Gavin doesn't create things, I think what he does is great! I was just already confused at that point)

[–]ChaoticMidget 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Gavin creates contents. PDP records it. That's the difference.

[–]kvdragonslayer [score hidden]

You think Gavin has never created anything?

[–]lightningshx 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I think he deserves some praise, most of his videos are fucking annoying, yes, but thats probably the point, thats what attracts the views and the dude knows it well

[–]ChaoticMidget 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I don't fault the guy for doing what's popular. Who am I to hate a normal guy that found a way to make a lot of money? As a content creator, I hate the fact that he's infinitely more popular than people who actually create quality content.

[–]lightningshx 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Its like being a musician and hating on whatever disney singer is being popular.

Dunno, I imagine its quite frustrating, but life its like that.

[–]RitzBitzN 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Yup. I always make sure to remind people that when content creators insult other content creates who are bigger, it often comes out of jealousy. PewDiePie puts a lot of time and effort into his videos (perhaps not as much as RT/AH), and you can't decry that. You can say that you may put in more effort and not get as big, but it comes down to the point that people hate him because he's popular.

[–]Nightshot 2 ポイント3 ポイント

You know how people are starting to not like rage quit because Michael seems to be putting it on? Pewdiepie is that up to 11. He over-reacts to absolutely everything, and that's the reason why people watch him.

[–]Commissioner_Freeman 6 ポイント7 ポイント

The reason people find it weird is that people who work in Hollywood and the Television industry have this weird etiquette where they won't criticise anyone else in case the company they work for wants to hire someone in the future and to prevent any bad press they receive doesn't hurt future job opportunities (It's annoying, and really fake but it's logical considering it's a large incestuous industry). The internet, however, is a much freer medium so criticising others is more of a free action. Gavin works for Rooster Teeth and Rooster Teeth have no plans of working with RWJ or PDP so throwing a couple of stray digs doesn't hurt any one. This makes open criticism from big names on the internet seem hostile when it's actually just natural, honest opinions. It's a comparison we make because it's our only pre-existing reference pool. When sycophants are the standard openly critical people get lumped in with the dickheads. Obviously there's more to it though. PDP and RWJ are acceptable targets.

EDIT: On the other hand, RT realises there's little crossover with their fans and also realises that there are an outspoken crowd of haters for these two. Open criticism of them is actually a solid business move as it seems inclusive to the bandwagon. They join the bandwagon, the bandwagon follows them. It's the exact reason Seth Rogen saying negative things about Justin Bieber on twitter gets 3k upvotes on reddit. Justin Bieber's an easy target. People who don't like him warm to Seth Rogen. Maybe a few more seats get filled at your local screening of The Interview. I'll admit this paragraph's a little cynical and probably somewhat bullshit. Probably should have stopped after the first.

[–]enceladus7 3 ポイント4 ポイント

That's very true, and I don't know why people apply it to other aspects of life. People have no problem booing a bad comedian off stage and saying they suck and aren't funny.

But saying an unfunny youtube commentator sucks is unfunny? You're automatically a dick purely because they use the same video platform as you?

Side note. A block of text hurts to read. You should space it out a bit.

[–]Commissioner_Freeman 2 ポイント3 ポイント

I kinda just type and click post. I'm not one for heavy formatting when I'm in rant-mode.

[–]enceladus7 3 ポイント4 ポイント

It was a worthy rant and deserves to be read, which might not happen when its a big block.

[–]Commissioner_Freeman 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Eh. I'm used to reading books. Text blocks of that size aren't a big deal to me. I'm not a fan of unnecessary paragraphing. You see, the point I make in the first paragraph is one singular point being expanded upon and hence only worthy of a singular paragraph.

Oh God, it's beginning again. That rant is forming. A ripening chrysalis of bitching about inconsequential shit. HELP ME...

[–]Batsy22 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

Because it's sorta a dick move imo. People don't like those people, but there's no reason to hate on them because you think they are annoying. Like the person below me said, pewdiepie gives a lot of money of charity and shit. So unless they're actively being assholes, I think it's sorta dickish to "call them out".

[–]enceladus7 4 ポイント5 ポイント

It being a dick move is subjective though.

Calling someone out for stealing your work without credit, is that really a dick move? I don't think so.

Harmless jokes having jab at someone, is that really a dick move? I don't think so.

It's not as if Gavin is saying these people should kill themselves.

[–]Batsy22 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

"Being annoying" is also very subjective. It's not like we're calling them out for doing something shitty. A lot of people don't like pewdiepie. A lot of people like pewdiepie. Neither side has the moral highground, it's totally cool to like or dislike whoever you want.

True the jokes he makes against RWJ and Pewdiepie are harmless, but it's still a dick move. Gavin saying these people are stupid and not funny isn't a friendly jab. If someone I didn't know said I was stupid or not funny, I'd be pretty insulted too. And it would be understandable for me to be upset.

I don't mean to say Gavin is an awful person or anything. Just people tend the celebrity they are shitting on is also a person.

Stealing stuff is a totally different issue though

[–]enceladus7 2 ポイント3 ポイント

True the jokes he makes against RWJ and Pewdiepie are harmless, but it's still a dick move.

Still subjective. I don't agree. I don't consider making indirect mean jokes about big names to be a dick move.

Not to mention the actual jokes he made weren't directly calling them stupid and not funny. That's just been his response whenever someone questions his reasoning behind the jokes.

[–]AKindChap 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Giving to charity does NOT make you immune to criticism. He's a great person (probably), he's an awful content creator.

He does know what's popular, however. Maybe if quality content was popular he would actually make good videos.

Maybe... maybe it's our fault.

[–]Batsy22 [score hidden]

30 million people like his stuff. So he's doing something right. It's cool if you don't like him, but it doesn't mean everyone does

[–]Alcookie 7 ポイント8 ポイント

It's a condition that he and I both suffer with called being English.

[–]Mattbird 5 ポイント6 ポイント

When they say "Courtesy of The Slow Mo Guys" it implies that uberfacts got permission to use his content. If they didn't then they're just taking his shit and hijacking his views. I'm surprised he doesn't do something about it other than just being passive aggressive.

[–]DrummerBoy2999 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Isn't he allowed to have an opinion?

[–]HugelDude 9 ポイント10 ポイント

Nah he just points out peoples shit. I dunno and Pewdiepie but Rwj is knob to people on twitter.

[–]unproperNoun 8 ポイント9 ポイント

Well I think Gavin has a bit of spite when it comes to overly popular things that only produce generic crap (like pewdiepie, RWJ, ect.) and I sorta have the same feeling. That being said, the passive aggressiveness and constantly calling it out publicly, yeah he's totally a bit bitchy :P

[–]Greenleaf208 8 ポイント9 ポイント

He's just being cheeky. I think it's hilarious.

[–]FuajiOfLebouf 7 ポイント8 ポイント

He's really proud of where he works and would like to see it grow even further, sounds pretty normal to me.

But maybe he should tone it down a bit.

[–]mudbutt20 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

It just seems like he is very vocal about his dislike of a lot of people. There is a difference between saying things in private and saying things on twitter for the world to see. He is only limiting his chances in life by doing that.

[–]_NotAPlatypus_ 4 ポイント5 ポイント

He works at a great company, is well known world wide, and has done a couple films. He gets to screw around with shit in slow motion with stuff that he gets from sponsors who want him to continue what he does.

Oh man, so limited in what he can do.

[–]swordmagic 4 ポイント5 ポイント

In Gavin's defense, Pewdiepie is unfunny and incredibly annoying. A garbage person if you will. I don't know who Ray Johnson is and UberFacts IS mostly bullshit.

[–]Pittyswains 4 ポイント5 ポイント

RWJ is essentially a g rated tosh.o hosted by the embodiment of what you'd picture a douche to be.

[–]AKindChap 0 ポイント1 ポイント

A garbage person is unfair. I hate to be the person that brings up "he does a lot for charity", but I think it's warranted when you make a personal insult.

[–]Tonesullock 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Along with all the other points, the British dole out abuse pretty generously (e.g. Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes). This doesn't seem out of the ordinary at all to me. He's really just giving abuse where abuse is due.

[–]waltduncan 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Yeah, Uberfacts is stealing (or freebooting) his content. Just saying where the content originates doesn't make it okay. Not legally, anyway. I think he has a right to be snide; it's pretty classy, IMO.

[–]XtremelyNiceRedditor 1 ポイント2 ポイント

People who are coincidentally all shite

[–]DarthReilly 0 ポイント1 ポイント

He's calling them out for using his video.

[–]mudbutt20 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

That I can understand. But maybe a smarter move would have been to contact them directly and ask for credit or a take down instead of being passive aggressive. But I understand why he is upset with über facts.

[–]OfficialGarwood 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Because when you spend weeks planning, shooting and editing a video for your fans. You don't want some arsehole twitter account to come and steal part of your video and re-upload it to vine just so they can get favourites and retweets.

Another problem is ad revenue. His YouTube account allows him to earn money from his video through the usage of ad revenue sharing (hence why many YTers ask you to not use adblock etc.) this allows him to make money so he can afford to shoot even more cooler videos. When uberfacts re-uploads these videos, it removes the ability for gavin to monetise from it, this was all done without permission also meaning Uberfacts stole his video. It's essentially theft.

[–]Troggie42 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Look at it from his perspective. He worked his ass off to become good at a craft and have the fan base he has. He worked his ass off to be able to work for RT and go through the stupid US visa program. He's done work on huge Hollywood productions and small things alike.

Now, you have stuff like this twitter account trying to drive traffic to their site through more or less stealing his hard work. You have RWJ capitalizing on other people's videos and getting paid just by being able to view "what's trending" on YouTube and make shitty jokes. You have Pewdiepie screaming at video games and somehow getting to #1 subscriber count for the lowest effort form of content production (one person LP videos).

I'd be a bit bitter and jaded, too, in that environment.

[–]blueturtle444 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Yet at the same time he's friends with someone who runs the What's Trending youtube channel, which I'd imagine does essentially the same thing, and doesn't seem to care about that.

[–]Troggie42 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Never seen it. Do they make unfunny jokes and do enough jump cuts to make Japanese epileptic children cry?

[–]Umezete 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I know Gavin is know for RT and achievement hunter but remember he started the business by being in film, I'm sure he takes alot of pride in his work with a camera and feels partly insulted when its taken without permission.

[–]Pregason 2 ポイント3 ポイント

When did he call PewDiePie and RWJ out?

[–]mudbutt20 3 ポイント4 ポイント

For Pew, podcasts, twitter, the surgeon lets play, and other times. For RWJ, twitter and in a recent GTA lets play.

[–]Tonesullock 1 ポイント2 ポイント

And on twitter a couple of times for RWJ

[–]Bonedeath 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Wait, do people actually like pewdiepie?

[–]AH_BareGarrett 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Only 29 million people or whatever his insane subscriber count is now.

[–]blueturtle444 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It certainly seems that way at times.

He's friends with Shira Lazar from What's Trending, but I don't understand the difference between what RWJ does and what What's Trending does as I haven't watched very much of either. Don't they both just talk and profit off of other people's videos?

[–]Pittyswains 2 ポイント3 ポイント

They do the same thing, but RWJ is just an obnoxious douche.

[–]blueturtle444 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Which is beside the point

[–]AKindChap 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It's not beside the point if he doesn't like him because he's obnoxious, is it?

[–]blueturtle444 0 ポイント1 ポイント

But that wasn't the reasoning, it was because he used other peoples videos even though he has a friend that, as far as I know, does the same. I believe he's mentioned watching Tosh.0 as well and that can be pretty similar at times.

[–]AKindChap 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Do we know why he doesn't like RWJ, or is it just people on Reddit guessing?

[–]blueturtle444 0 ポイント1 ポイント

He's mentioned it on the podcast.