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[–]AlizarinFox 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Not really that funny. Mostly just mean.

I'm sure it'll hit the front page though, because the default subs are full of people with the highschool "mock everyone and everything" mentality and hey, fat people deserve ridicule, because it's their own fault right? The comment section is already filling up with the same tired old jokes.

Never let the opportunity to feel good about yourself by anonymously ridiculing strangers pass by though.

This is the part where you tell me that I must be fat myself or that "they're just jokes" etc...

Regardless of all that, honestly the photographer should have taken a moment and some consideration to stage a better photo that was more inclusive of everyone. It's kind of cliché and it makes everyone look pretty stupid, even the bride wasn't caught smiling.

[–]lobsterbat 16 ポイント17 ポイント

I find it sad that you're being downvoted just for being a decent human being.

[–]AlizarinFox 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I didn't expect my opinion to be popular, but I appreciate at least some support.

[–]rockets9495 29 ポイント30 ポイント

because it's their own fault right?

Yes, it is. Whose fault do you think it is?

[–]AlizarinFox 31 ポイント32 ポイント

You've missed the point, perhaps deliberately.

The actual point is that, just because someone has done something bad to themselves, doesn't make it somehow more excusable to ridicule them.

It doesn't mean they deserve whatever mean spirited thing you feel you want to say, just because their problem is self inflicted. Being mean to someone always makes you an asshole regardless.

[–]TheSnowNinja 24 ポイント25 ポイント

I agree with you. Most people have no illusion that being overweight is healthy. But people on this site are absolute shit heads when they see someone they consider fat.

[–]AlizarinFox 21 ポイント22 ポイント

Yep, I never said the girl was an example of the pinnacle of health, but pointing and laughing at her doesn't somehow make you a better person.

[–]TheSnowNinja 6 ポイント7 ポイント

Nor does it encourage her to work towards being healthier. Poor self esteem can just cause depression and make things worse.

I can't believe everyone here is so immature. It's like being back in elementary school.

[–]vi1987 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It really is. I hate how everything is just so cut and dry. Fatty - stop eating! Not, human, are you alright, how much do you value yourself?

[–]NDiesel -1 ポイント0 ポイント

It's human nature to notice differences. Some are easier to crack jokes about than others.

[–]Nordschleife_wannabe 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Muh genetics

[–]JamesBongd 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Genetics put too much food in her mouth, right?

[–]TheSnowNinja -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

God, you're an ass.

A lot of things can contribute to weight, and losing weight can be extremely difficult.

[–]soliloquios 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Doesn't mean it can't be done. Some people just lack discipline and lack self-control. Most fat people are that way because they won't control themselves, not because some health condition.

You are only fooling yourself.

[–]TheSnowNinja 5 ポイント6 ポイント

I've never said it can't be done. People lose weight all the time.

Unless you have a degree in nutrition, genetics, medicine, and psychology, you can't pretend that it all boils down to a lack of control.

Do you also consider depression a 'lack of self control?' Depression can easily cause someone to be more sedentary and to eat more poorly.

Is being a woman a lack of control? A lot of hormonal birth control causes weight gain. Guys never have to worry about that.

And having shitty parents that don't teach you how to eat well or exercise probably affects your size when you get older. Most people don't turn into Greek gods if their parents fed them poorly as kids.

[–]soliloquios 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I can accept everything you just said, and it's true: i won't deny it. But truth is, most cases are not consequence of what you said. There are now people proud to be fat, (see HAES and feeders/gainers), and it's not just healthy. And there are people who are just lazy, and those are the majority.

I have meet people who have lost so much weight from healthy eating (notice i don't say dieting) and regular excercise. It can be done, but it requires a commitment not everyone is willing to make.

[–]TheSnowNinja 1 ポイント2 ポイント

most cases are not consequence of what you said

Like every woman on birth control?

There are now people proud to be fat, (see HAES and feeders/gainers)

I know this exists, but I hardly ever hear about it outside of the internet. I think it is extremely uncommon for overweight people to think that they are healthy. I constantly hear people talking about how they need to lose weight.

It can be done, but it requires a commitment not everyone is willing to make.

I feel like that oversimplifies things. I don't really try to maintain my weight at all. I'm 5' 6'' and 130lbs. I can eat pizza, doughnuts, burgers, etc, and I never seem to gain any weight. Genetics granted me a crazy metabolism, and my parents taught me to show a little caution in my diet.

Not everyone has to make that commitment, and it is easy to ridicule those who have a much greater struggle to maintain a decent weight.

[–]FireChickens 4 ポイント5 ポイント

Everything you've said on this comment thread is correct. Unfortunately the general consensus doesn't grasp alot of the concepts of why some people become obese.

[–]soliloquios 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'm 5'2, and on birth control too, i try to work out at least 3-4 days a week after work, at most 5 (i don't work out on weekends), i eat pretty well-balanced, i don't eat fried stuff at all(gives me stomachache) and i try to control my sugar intake (and i do love chocolate).

My measures have shrinked , I now wear size 0-3 jeans, but i am fit, not skinny. It took a lot of work.

My parents are not fat, but they eat what they want, so they must have a good metabolism, as i do, but i wanted to be fit, not just "slim"

My parents didn't teach me my healthy habits nor did they encourage my need for body fitness; i decided i wanted to be able to be comfortable with my body and i worked hard for it, and most people can do it too, it's all I'm trying to say

[–]Sanchez326 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Yeah putting the fork down is sooo hard.

[–]TheSnowNinja 2 ポイント3 ポイント

That isn't enough to lose weight in the long run. Your body starts using less energy if you suddenly cut calorie intake by too much. You have to eat better stuff, slowly decrease consumption, and be more active, amongst other things.

[–]Sanchez326 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I get you, but what I meant was that if someone craves something that's unhealthy, they should just not eat that. I never said starve yourself. But yeah, losing weight is mostly dieting, and not just exercise.

[–]TheSnowNinja 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Sadly, unhealthy food is often cheaper than healthy stuff. Poor people tend to eat less healthy food.

[–]Sanchez326 1 ポイント2 ポイント

That may be true, but there are many average income families that are obese. It's not that simple.

[–]vi1987 -1 ポイント0 ポイント

It can be. Obesity and mental illness can be closely linked. One goes out of balance, the other will probably be unstable as well.

Not as simple as putting the fork down.

[–]U_W0TM8 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

So don't get fat in the first place, like everyone else?

[–]TheSnowNinja 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Kids don't have a say in the matter. A lot of people gain weight as they get older because their bodies no longer need the calories they needed as teenagers. So not getting fat means a preemptive change in diet and activity before the metabolism slows. Not an easy feat.

like everyone else?

Uh, a lot of people are overweight and obese in the US. We've become very sedentary and a lot of our food is made from unhealthy garbage. This isn't about a single person's lack of willpower. It's about a culture that encourages an unhealthy lifestyle that increases obesity across the board.

[–]U_W0TM8 0 ポイント1 ポイント

They all know they're fat and they don't want to be, but they don't do anything about it.

Lack of willpower.

[–]Casting-1st-Stone -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

http://healthland.time.com/2013/07/19/news-genes-idd-in-obesity-how-much-of-weight-is-genetic/

[–]Casting-1st-Stone -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

It's more complicated then that

[–]fearachieved 0 ポイント1 ポイント

As one of those guys with a fantastic body who never had to work for it or pay attention to how I eat, I'm not sure if it is their fault.

[–]cat_proof -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Except as you probably notice, your situation is rather rare. Yes, there may be some people with genetic disorders out there, but certainly not a sizeable percentage to be a relevant excuse.

[–]Pyundai 1 ポイント2 ポイント

It's their own fault for not getting fit, but most people's obesity stems from childhood - their parents. Getting fit is extremely hard and shame is the wrong manner of encouragement, but shoving it under the rug isn't right either.

[–]ernestborgnine2013 7 ポイント8 ポイント

I'm with you on this. I was overweight at my sister's wedding while dealing with a lot of self esteem issues. My sister was skinny but only recently. Why? Because she took speed. She wasn't exercising a bit. She put me in a full length black velvet dress, which I sweated in all night. I was a hot mess. That one experience really taught me a lot about how society expects women's bodies to look. And that doing drugs was preferred to diet and exercise. It's such hell to go through.

[–]Casting-1st-Stone 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I am with ya on this point...I know it's the Internet so sticking up for someone against the hive can seem pointless but its not...I appreciate your point

[–]AlizarinFox 1 ポイント2 ポイント

I knew it wouldn't be the popular opinion, but sometimes you have to voice it regardless.

I saw your comments too and appreciate what you said and have been trying to get across.

[–]TopSecretSaint 6 ポイント7 ポイント

That's a logical response? Change what the other ELEVEN people are doing to cater to the ONE fat person.

I don't think it's the photographer's fault for assuming human beings can jump, I think it's her fault for not living up that standard.

[–]Aint_got_no_agua 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Yeah, if there had been a bridesmaid in a wheelchair I could see the point but this is not that situation.

[–]ChilliChicken 8 ポイント9 ポイント

So my wife is 5'10" and weighs just on 50kgs (110lbs). I bet she's copped way more shit from people in her life than this girl has. She's 27 and she has constantly been told to eat more food and that she must be sick. Not only by people she knows, but random people like bank tellers and check-out attendants. It happens sometimes at least once a week. Mostly fat adult women.

I bet the fat girl in the photo has never been told to STOP eating once after leaving high school. Because nobody would dare point out that a fat person is overweight should stop eating. Because that would be offensive, right? The difference here is there is nothing my wife can do to put on weight. Doctors have suggested ideas which haven't worked so she doesn't bother trying anymore. She's perfectly healthy the way she is. The fat girl however has an option. I've lost weight myself. I used to be 135kgs (297lbs) and now I'm under 100kgs (220lbs). All within about nine months. I wouldn't even say it was hard. It's all about determination.

[–]TheSnowNinja 21 ポイント22 ポイント

I bet she's copped way more shit from people in her life than this girl has.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe that at all. I'm pretty small for a guy. I only weigh 130 lbs, and I have a lot of people tell me that I need to eat more. But I have no illusion that a heavyset guy is going to get less crap about his weight than I am.

Edit: Reworded to make the point I meant to make.

[–]lobsterbat 15 ポイント16 ポイント

The existence of this photo and people posting other garbage like it negates your whole argument. People treat you like garbage and comment all the time on your weight and habits when you are morbidly obese.

Are you or have you ever been fat? Then how can you make those kinds of suppositions?

[–]ma5haga 10 ポイント11 ポイント

Wrong, buddy. I was an overweight child and am an overweight adult. People always think it's their business to tell someone else what they should do with their body to make it better. I get a rude comment at least once a year, sometimes from total strangers. I have remembered all of them since childhood. It doesn't motivate you to change anyway; it just makes you feel like a worthless piece of shit.

[–]The_Tightest_Anus -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Once a year? Sounds like a lot of people must like you.

[–]Aint_got_no_agua -1 ポイント0 ポイント

A rude comment once a year? Shit, I actually stay in shape and I'm not doing that good. What's your secret?

[–]AlizarinFox 18 ポイント19 ポイント

That's great but it's also a lot of assumption. You don't know what anybody has said to this girl, what her health conditions or dietary habits are etc... or even if she wants to lose weight or even gives a shit.

The issue isn't about her nutrition, it's about making fun of her. The people in this thread are only saying what they are because they have the security of a screen to hide behind. They're essentially the comments of high-school bullies. If someone posted a picture of your wife and the comments were all derogatory, would you still be here making excuses for the people being mean?

[–]dripdroponmytiptop -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

there isn't such thing is a naturally, healthy fat person, you've got to stop believing that bullshit because it not only is going to give the wrong idea to people, it could and IS detremental to their health. The big return I always get is, "why do you care about their health? They don't need tips from you", and they're right, so I stopped trying to help others. But directly saying "you need to eat less you are unhealthy" is one thing, and fostering a society/culture wherein eating less calories and being healthy is optimal and being fat and overweight is no longer normalized, that's another.

Yes, making fun of people is bad, but please, you have to stop normalizing obesity.

[–]AlizarinFox 2 ポイント3 ポイント

there isn't such thing is a naturally, healthy fat person, you've got to stop believing that bullshit because it not only is going to give the wrong idea to people

Where did I say I believed that? You're inventing your own arguments to be mad at me over.

My point has always been in regard to the bullying and mean comments. Teasing a girly anonymously because she's too overweight to jump in a photo, isn't about trying to promote better nutrition or a healthier society, it's about people wanting to be assholes.

I've never once said, nor do I think it is a good thing to be overweight.

[–]ViktorStrain 0 ポイント1 ポイント

The difference here is there is nothing my wife can do to put on weight.

I believe this about as much as I believe fat people who say they can't lose weight. Either your wife needs to eat more or she needs to submit herself to examination by both physicists and nutritionists.

[–]Trenticle 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I wouldn't even say it was NOT hard, it's actually easy as fuck. It's a simple concept. Eat less than you burn. Calories in vs Calories out. That's it, that's the entire concept of gaining and losing weight.

[–]UncleJesticle 6 ポイント7 ポイント

I make fun of everything else, why can't I make fun of this?

[–]DavidRandom 3 ポイント4 ポイント

I agree, the bride and groom should choose all their decisions on how they want to capture their special day based on their one friend that eats so much that gravity has completely defeated her.

Edit: "It's kind of cliché"

No shit, it's a wedding. It's one big cliché.

[–]AlizarinFox -4 ポイント-3 ポイント

the bride and groom should choose all their decisions on how they want to capture their special day based on their one friend

Nice hyperbole. It's one picture in a whole day of photography and events etc... how you got to "all decisions" from that... I guess because it adds false authority to your argument.

The picture looks like crap, regardless of one persons inability to jump.

I imagine they also took a pic of them all standing together, I can't imagine this is the only shot taken on the beach. I guess the others wouldn't have been as "funny".

that eats so much that gravity has completely defeated her.

Oh, you didn't have a real argument, you just wanted an excuse to make a fat joke. Cool.

[–]DavidRandom 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Sorry, I try to keep the comments steered towards jokes here on /r/funny. I keep forgetting that this internet stuff is srs business.

[–]thetruckerdave 2 ポイント3 ポイント

Maybe the bride wanted the cliche picture. It's the fat girls fault it's not 'inclusive'.

[–]MrBoulder 0 ポイント1 ポイント

It's the lowest form of comedy. It really involves no effort, similar to the shit you see on /r/imgoingtohellforthis.

[–]captainmooo 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I hear you loud and clear, word for word. Really disappointed that this shit is on the front page, and being fueled by an adult dominant group.

TL;DR: Half the thread hasn't mentally graduated high school.

[–]PCGamingOppression -1 ポイント0 ポイント

more inclusive of everyone

Everyone but her was jumping in it.

And she COULD have jumped if she wanted to.

Sorry, the world does not need to cater around one person of size~

[–]daegoran -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Yeah, you're such a better person because instead of anonymously ridiculing strangers you anonymously scold them. Thank god for heroes like you.

[–]AlizarinFox 0 ポイント1 ポイント

I'd say everything I've said to these peoples faces without hesitation, do you really think they can say the same?

Good job trying to one-up me though.

[–]Jobsite -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Regardless of her being fat or not, if everyone jumps and one person doesn't, it's funny. You're the one at fault for thinking its because she's fat.

[–]AlizarinFox 7 ポイント8 ポイント

Yeah, It's my fault, nobody in this thread except me has mentioned her weight at all...

[–]The_Tightest_Anus -5 ポイント-4 ポイント

Diet. Excercise. If genes aren't on your side, sucks to suck, better diet and better excercise. It's a bad example for kids, and bad for your health.

[–]AlizarinFox 3 ポイント4 ポイント

Do you know what is also a bad example to kids, teaching them it's acceptable to bully and tease other people for their problems.

[–]The_Tightest_Anus -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

who's bullying? I'm sorry suggesting a hard truth. Sorry reality is hard.

I used to be fat as hell, in the 99th percentile for my weight for kids my height when I was younger.

[–]JustAPaddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Jesus, you were a fat little fucker lol. Good job on not being a fat little fucker anymore :D

[–]The_Tightest_Anus 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Thanks man, it was just a realization that being active actually felt better than being lazy

[–]JustAPaddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント

Well good for you. Always good to hear that someone got motivated and changed their self for the better. If you were here I'd give you one of my beers.

[–]lipstickleslie -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

the opportunity to feel good about yourself by ridiculing a stranger

Why does that always get said? This has nothing to do with me. Is it ever possible to just find something funny without some sort of armchair psychological evaluation into the perceived insecurities of anyone who laughed or made some lame joke?

[–]AlizarinFox 1 ポイント2 ポイント

Why does that always get said?

Perhaps because there's a nugget of truth in it. There's always usually the dismissive counter argument that follows about how not everything has to be some armchair psychobabble etc... and it's just jokes.

Everything we do is based on our psychology and to "do with you", that's how your brain works. You can't just dismiss it because it suits you. It isn't armchair psychology to understand insecurity, group mentality and how wanting to belong causes people to tease and bully the "inferior" members of the group or society.

[–]lipstickleslie -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Generalizations everywhere. It's not possible that people find the humor in a situation and that's it? So if someone thinks this is in any way funny, they automatically are acting out of an insecurity and desire to join in a group mentality? No. Some people just find it to be a funny three seconds of their day. Others, who habitually make these sort of comments may have issues, sure. But you don't have to make such blanket generalizations about everyone who found this funny.

[–]AlizarinFox -1 ポイント0 ポイント

Contrarians everywhere.

When you go past the threshold of having a passing chuckle at a humorous situation, into the realm of taking the time to join in with and make derogatory and negative comments about a person for the approval of strangers on the internet in a forum, then I would say that's a pretty good case for having deeper issues, wouldn't you?

I didn't make blanket generalizations, I made a very specific statements about the people commenting in this thread. If you actually step back and look at the context of what I said, where and why you'll see that it's a perfectly valid argument to make.

[–]Aint_got_no_agua -2 ポイント-1 ポイント

Never let the opportunity to feel good about yourself by anonymously ridiculing strangers climbing up on a pedestal in the comments on Reddit.

ftfy

[–]sfengi -3 ポイント-2 ポイント

I found the fattie.

But seriously, yea everyone else should change what they're doing and accommodate the one person that is so overweight they can't physically propel their own weight off of the ground.